Shingeki no Kyojin Chapter 77 Discussion

Kanaev said:
"Oh no, we killed Reiner, how horrible, there was no other way". I don't understand those stupid pieces of shite, they had to kill him. There was no question about taking him alive, even if there was a way. Killing him off for good is more valuable, than any information he possess. And they grieve and calm themselves with "there was no other way". Seems like they've forgot who destroyed the wall. Freaking autists.

AndySuherno said:
What if Bertholdt eat what left of Reiner and transform into Armored Colosal Titan

ShadowTheRaven said:
Bloody hell, Im not sure if even [bold]Levi[/bold] could beat that.

Although its not confirmed I think Reiner is dead. He seems like the type of character to be killed of before his ideology/goals and reasoning is explained. Why is he getting so much hate? He's my favourite male SnK character. I'm sure that he has good reasons for trying to end humanity and he felt genuine sadness when Marco died which shows he isn't a nob. Howcome Annie or Bert aren't getting as much hate as him??

BadToTheBone said:
I highly doubt Bert would ever think of eating Reiner's corpse, he is his friend. There's also the fact that a shifter eating another shifter is a huge waste as the power is lost and is unclear if they can create new shifters, so there might be negative consequences for Bertholt, maybe even get himself eaten when he returns to his village. And finally, armor probably weights a lot, the Colossal titan might collapse on itself if it becomes armored: Rod Reiss could only move by crawling and the Colossal titan is completely deformed to support its weight already.

About the Reiner hate, depends, in the West more people like Annie than Bert and Reiner, while in Japan they like Bert and Reiner way more, with Annie being just 15 on the popularity poll... I guess mostly because they can't make yaoi fanfics with her lol.
Also, while Bert and Reiner face the consecuences of their actions, Bert being an introvert and Annie completely isolating herself so she doesn't have to kill friends, all the while hating herself (you can tell by how derisively she talks about herself), Reiner gets to play big brother to both RBA and the 104th, facing none of the guilt "thanks" to his fractured psyche. Plus, he leads the RBA trio in their crimes, complains about them when he is the most unreliable (chapter 77 being the most obvious), and survives sure-deaths one after the other.
Personally I really like him though.

Shirrow said:
All three of them should die. Nothing can justify what they did and if he comes around with the naruto shit "he was the coolest guy" and everything is forgiven... then fuck this!

BadToTheBone said:
I would say that it's not about their actions being justified or not, it's that they were given absolutely no options by the leaders of their village.

Go back to their village: get eaten alive for their "armor". Some poor kids get sent to do the mission in their place.
Surrender to the walls people: tortured for information, experimented on, then killed. Some poor kids get sent to do the mission in their place.
Go out to the wilderness: eaten alive by titans. Some poor kids get sent to do the mission in their place.
Desert inside the walls: If they get discovered they get tortured and killed, if the walls fall they get eaten. Either way some poor kids get sent to do the mission in their place.
Do the mission: cover themselves in more blood, come back as heroes to their nation, live.

Their biggest crime, the destruction of Wall Rose, was done when they were brainwashed 12 year old kids, like Reiner said, they were just shitty brats who knew nothing. They were made to believe they were some righteous heroes fighting against evil monsters. Later they realized they were already mass murderers because of that, and that their sins were already unforgivable, so their only option is going forward with their mission.

Shirrow said:




The option was for them to stop that crap. If they realized what they did was wrong, then still doing that is the most retarded option out of all.

They are old enough to know that and they have to be punished for what they did.. even more so for still doing that while knowing it's wrong.
It's just a lame way the mangaka's trying to 'justify' what they did because they count as one of the popular characters..

BadToTheBone said:
But stopping that crap means death. Would you willingly accept death like that? most people wouldn't.

Shirrow said:


If i had done what they did and finally realized what i was doing is the most horrible thing, then yeah. You can't just run away from your sins and act like since you can't change the past you can keep going with this even if it's wrong.


Even if they still won't stop this... it doesn't matter. He can't bring up anything to justify their actions. The moment they realized that, the brainwashed as children part didn't count anymore.

dedeogbe said:
Awesome chapter! Glad some punishment is being dished out to these guys. Again regardless of what the justifications are, they're still murdering people and committing mass genocide. I doubt Connie gives a damn about Zeke's reasons for turning his mother into a titan just to increase his force. Doesnt matter how honourable the cause turns out to be, it's not gonna justify anything they've done. That ending though, Colossal Titan incoming! From the way this fight is playing out, Levi's gonna have to use the serum on someone to level out the playing field.

misaseh098 said:


also i just realized... is reiner alright in the head? coz this is some weird delusional thing he did



the way he switched from "we are warrios" to "WTF GUYS MARCO's BEING EATEN!"

Nishiou said:
The option was for them to stop that crap. If they realized what they did was wrong, then still doing that is the most retarded option out of all.

Kanaev said:
Freaking autists.

Adacchan said:
& the Gorilla's name is Zeke. My hatred already has a name.