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Nov 17, 2014 12:41 AM

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I wonder if multiple Kaneki are going to appear once he will control all the squad members and Sasaki. If they transplanted organs from Kaneki to everyone, maybe we are going to get 5 Kaneki in the future, or even more, maybe they do experiments and clone Kaneki. I wonder if the final battle in the manga is going to be Kaneki clone side(ccg) vs Amon clone side(aogiri).
Nov 17, 2014 2:08 AM
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I was starting to be swayed by the chapters. Tt was really seeming like Haise was Kaneki. Now I'm 100% sure- that this is a fake out; it's too easy, and I respect Ishida Sui too much to accept that he'll go the easy route of "Sasaki is Kaneki". It would negate too many of the successful themes that came with the original, and not really add anything to the story. He probably recognizes that he merely needs to have Kaneki to be "alive" in one form or another, and not have original Kaneki in his entirety part of the package.
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Arcanix said:
I wonder if multiple Kaneki are going to appear once he will control all the squad members and Sasaki. If they transplanted organs from Kaneki to everyone, maybe we are going to get 5 Kaneki in the future, or even more, maybe they do experiments and clone Kaneki. I wonder if the final battle in the manga is going to be Kaneki clone side(ccg) vs Amon clone side(aogiri).


well actually i cant understand you are serious or just trolling lol
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Arcanix said:
I wonder if multiple Kaneki are going to appear once he will control all the squad members and Sasaki. If they transplanted organs from Kaneki to everyone, maybe we are going to get 5 Kaneki in the future, or even more, maybe they do experiments and clone Kaneki. I wonder if the final battle in the manga is going to be Kaneki clone side(ccg) vs Amon clone side(aogiri).
Cant believe im reading this shit. TG became starwars, trolls everywhere.
Nov 17, 2014 3:05 AM

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RealityEater said:
Finally!!!Cant wait for the next chapter.I hope Kaneki takes over Haise or something.
this is becommin gayer and more nonsense every fucking post
Nov 17, 2014 3:06 AM

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ftsyzc said:


well actually i cant understand you are serious or just trolling lol
LameReader said:
Cant believe im reading this shit. TG became starwars, trolls everywhere.

Why are you saying this? Wouldn't this "wow" you? Isn't this unpredictable? I thought this is making no sense and it wouldn't be good for Ishida to make a manga that makes sense. His job is to "wow" us, right? I can already see the random reviewers going insane when Ishida will show us the cloning machine.
Nov 17, 2014 3:23 AM

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Arcanix said:
ftsyzc said:


well actually i cant understand you are serious or just trolling lol
LameReader said:
Cant believe im reading this shit. TG became starwars, trolls everywhere.

Why are you saying this? Wouldn't this "wow" you? Isn't this unpredictable? I thought this is making no sense and it wouldn't be good for Ishida to make a manga that makes sense. His job is to "wow" us, right? I can already see the random reviewers going insane when Ishida will show us the cloning machine.

I trolled once only, regarding mtsuki's quinque, now quit it, i'm not one of those randomc trolls. Get back to your regular thoughful posts, otherwise i'll start reporting u ! ffs, getting mad at all these troll posts, not only urs.
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Arcanix said:
I wonder if multiple Kaneki are going to appear once he will control all the squad members and Sasaki. If they transplanted organs from Kaneki to everyone, maybe we are going to get 5 Kaneki in the future, or even more, maybe they do experiments and clone Kaneki.


What are you talking about? Sasaki is clearly Kaneki, not a different person. There's no way that some random guy who got transplanted organs from Kaneki would preserve physical behaviours such as cracking of the fingers (well I mean this is a fantasy manga more or less so it might be possible, but I really doubt it). I also doubt any of his squad members have anything to do with Kaneki; it would be pretty stupid to see multiple Kaneki's be in each of their thoughts.

Anyway this chapter was good, old ways are starting to get back to Sasaki!
Nov 17, 2014 3:55 AM

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I wonder if we'll see Rize anytime soon. Because she used to be inside Kaneki, who is inside Sasaki now. I hope we do see her though.

No No No. Rize was just a figment of Kaneki's imagination. A hallucination. She was not inside him and neither is Kaneki because Sasaki is another personality of his.

And some of the people for god's sake stop saying Sasaki has Kaneki's organ inside. Organs don't transfer another persons experiences, habits, hobbies or physical appearances. Not to mention Kanou is the only one who knows how to create half ghouls.
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HandsomeMan said:
Arcanix said:
I wonder if multiple Kaneki are going to appear once he will control all the squad members and Sasaki. If they transplanted organs from Kaneki to everyone, maybe we are going to get 5 Kaneki in the future, or even more, maybe they do experiments and clone Kaneki.


What are you talking about? Sasaki is clearly Kaneki, not a different person. There's no way that some random guy who got transplanted organs from Kaneki would preserve physical behaviours such as cracking of the fingers (well I mean this is a fantasy manga more or less so it might be possible, but I really doubt it). I also doubt any of his squad members have anything to do with Kaneki; it would be pretty stupid to see multiple Kaneki's be in each of their thoughts.

Anyway this chapter was good, old ways are starting to get back to Sasaki!

Can't you see he's joking about it and not serious? I can't blame him for doing that because of the retarded theory about organ transplant some people kept posting. Also those annoying new fans that expect Ishida to wow them every chapter.
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AnimeOverlord said:
Never has a cracked knuckle made so loud a sound. Welcome home, officially, Kaneki.


Not yet, not yet ;D Ishida knows how to play with us, it's still a long way to go before we can welcome Kaneki home ;D


Arcanix said:
I wonder if multiple Kaneki are going to appear once he will control all the squad members and Sasaki. If they transplanted organs from Kaneki to everyone, maybe we are going to get 5 Kaneki in the future, or even more, maybe they do experiments and clone Kaneki. I wonder if the final battle in the manga is going to be Kaneki clone side(ccg) vs Amon clone side(aogiri).


I'll pray day and night to Ishida-sensei and all manga's gods that it wouldn't happen. It would be the worst possible scenario. I love Kaneki, but I prefer zero Kaneki than more than one Kaneki.


Strident said:
I was starting to be swayed by the chapters. Tt was really seeming like Haise was Kaneki. Now I'm 100% sure- that this is a fake out; it's too easy, and I respect Ishida Sui too much to accept that he'll go the easy route of "Sasaki is Kaneki". It would negate too many of the successful themes that came with the original, and not really add anything to the story. He probably recognizes that he merely needs to have Kaneki to be "alive" in one form or another, and not have original Kaneki in his entirety part of the package.


But he's Haise. He was brainwashed or something like that; even when he gets back his memories, he won't be the same as before. I believe that regaining his memories will make him suffer and more unstable than ever; like in TG he accepted himself at the end, embracing both of his personalities, now he has third one - and Haise making peace with Kaneki may be that moment when he will be truly part of both worlds.
Nov 17, 2014 4:15 AM

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Ok, seriously now, the only thing that i really don't want is for Kaneki to stomp NotNishiki. I'm sure that Ishida has something cool planned and as much of a fanboy of Kaneki i am, it wouldn't feel right.
Anyway, i can imagine Tsukiyama hearing about all the shit happening and going near Torso to start fanboying.
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I don't think Sasaki is brainwashed because if he had been then he would have no reason to be so merciful to some ghouls. He would literally have been a ghoul killing machine if he was brainwashed. I believe he still has his memories intact but doesn't want to remember the dreadful battle 3 years ago. And perhaps he joined CCG on Hide's advice back in the sewers. I mean what other choice did he have other than death or to impress Arima.
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Z4k said:
I don't think Sasaki is brainwashed because if he had been then he would have no reason to be so merciful to some ghouls. He would literally have been a ghoul killing machine if he was brainwashed. I believe he still has his memories intact but doesn't want to remember the dreadful battle 3 years ago. And perhaps he joined CCG on Hide's advice back in the sewers. I mean what other choice did he have other than death or to impress Arima.



Mmmm, it would make sense in part, specially whennhe said in chap 140, I know what is going th happen next.....and when I wake up.

But personally I am still going with the dissociative identty disorder, sice it seems Ishida digs psyhology.
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

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Nov 17, 2014 5:04 AM

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Next chapter is going to be intense. I've been waiting for an epic fight ever since RE started! Looks like we'll be getting that in the next chapter.
Nov 17, 2014 5:33 AM

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Sasaki's Kagune looks very unstable to me.
Great chapter, been waiting for a real fighting scene.



Well Kaneki was unstable since he started going into his ghoul powers.

Since finger snapping and the looks and the white hair pretty much point to Sasaki being Kaneki (He mentioned it's been a while since he fought a very strong ghoul like that, so I am assuming Kaneki is not disected, more like surpressed his ghoul powers)
Nov 17, 2014 7:35 AM

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Never see a Tokyo Ghoul's gif more cool than this..
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GiovyExtreme said:
Never see a Tokyo Ghoul's gif more cool than this..
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OMG! That gif is the awesome(st) gif I've ever seen. So BA!
Nov 17, 2014 7:55 AM

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It's almost like people want Kaneki dead or harvested for organs. I get it though, a bunch are trolling, guess I should just leave it be lol. If all Sasaki was experiencing was hallucinations of Kaneki then I would say maybe he does have his kakuhou, but with everything else adding up so far it just doesn't make sense.

-Some of his memories coming back (realizing he's read a book before in the first chapter)

-Exact same physical appearance, except with black and white hair to match Kaneki's two sides

-Kaneki's habits and mannerisms (finger cracking)

-The fact that he's not in Quinx, meaning he's probably a half ghoul and not a Quinckes

Plenty more but everyone should get the point... And yeah I probably should just let this go at this point and let the story play out. On a side note if Sasaki really was just some random guy who receives Kaneki's organs in an experiment, I actually think it would be pretty interesting having Kaneki alive in Sasaki's mind only, it's just not something that would make a lot of sense at this point.

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And this is awesome.
Nov 17, 2014 8:23 AM

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That's awesome!!
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OMG OMG !!

GREAT CHAPTER !

Sasaneki rocks !!! ^^
Nov 17, 2014 8:37 AM

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It's almost like people want Kaneki dead or harvested for organs. I get it though, a bunch are trolling, guess I should just leave it be lol. If all Sasaki was experiencing was hallucinations of Kaneki then I would say maybe he does have his kakuhou, but with everything else adding up so far it just doesn't make sense.

-Some of his memories coming back (realizing he's read a book before in the first chapter)

-Exact same physical appearance, except with black and white hair to match Kaneki's two sides

-Kaneki's habits and mannerisms (finger cracking)

-The fact that he's not in Quinx, meaning he's probably a half ghoul and not a Quinckes

Plenty more but everyone should get the point... And yeah I probably should just let this go at this point and let the story play out. On a side note if Sasaki really was just some random guy who receives Kaneki's organs in an experiment, I actually think it would be pretty interesting having Kaneki alive in Sasaki's mind only, it's just not something that would make a lot of sense at this point.



im still not ready to believe 100% that this is actually kaneki. he doesn't look exactly like him (mainly the hair), his dialogue and personality is completely a typical of ken, how would he get passed the rc cell scanner in the ccg building, how are his eyes back, and so on. i definitely think he might be part kaneki or something a little more in depth than merely having an internal quinque and i'd be willing to bet money that this has something to do arima giving this to sasaki. i just feel as if ken's storyline is over and it would be a bit counter productive to go backwards and to revisit him in the capacity of being a full fledged character i think ishida has something much more nuanced and sinister in mind and i'd be quite disappointed if it was something as simple as kaneki having lost his memories and be working for the other side.
Nov 17, 2014 8:49 AM

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tankoubon-feind said:
CNTRI715 said:
It's almost like people want Kaneki dead or harvested for organs. I get it though, a bunch are trolling, guess I should just leave it be lol. If all Sasaki was experiencing was hallucinations of Kaneki then I would say maybe he does have his kakuhou, but with everything else adding up so far it just doesn't make sense.

-Some of his memories coming back (realizing he's read a book before in the first chapter)

-Exact same physical appearance, except with black and white hair to match Kaneki's two sides

-Kaneki's habits and mannerisms (finger cracking)

-The fact that he's not in Quinx, meaning he's probably a half ghoul and not a Quinckes

Plenty more but everyone should get the point... And yeah I probably should just let this go at this point and let the story play out. On a side note if Sasaki really was just some random guy who receives Kaneki's organs in an experiment, I actually think it would be pretty interesting having Kaneki alive in Sasaki's mind only, it's just not something that would make a lot of sense at this point.



im still not ready to believe 100% that this is actually kaneki. he doesn't look exactly like him (mainly the hair), his dialogue and personality is completely a typical of ken, how would he get passed the rc cell scanner in the ccg building, how are his eyes back, and so on. i definitely think he might be part kaneki or something a little more in depth than merely having an internal quinque and i'd be willing to bet money that this has something to do arima giving this to sasaki. i just feel as if ken's storyline is over and it would be a bit counter productive to go backwards and to revisit him in the capacity of being a full fledged character i think ishida has something much more nuanced and sinister in mind and i'd be quite disappointed if it was something as simple as kaneki having lost his memories and be working for the other side.


Maybe it's just me being stubborn, but I refuse to believe Kaneki's story is done. It has a tragic end in TG, and I want this to be the comeback epic for him, something of a redemption. You're right that Ishida could be messing with us but even then it shouldn't mean the end of Kaneki. What if Sasaki is just some random investigator implanted with Kaneki's kakuhou (for argument's sake), and Kaneki ends up consuming him and taking over his body? Now THAT would be interesting.

I think it would equally be boring for Sasaki to just be a regular guy who receives Kaneki's kakuhou. If Ishida does have some twist in mind though I won't mind, as long as it makes sense.
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Never see a Tokyo Ghoul's gif more cool than this..
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Amazinggg !!!!
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CrimsonMoon56 said:
GiovyExtreme said:
Never see a Tokyo Ghoul's gif more cool than this..
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Amazinggg !!!!


this gif fucking owned this thread.
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tankoubon-feind said:


im still not ready to believe 100% that this is actually kaneki. he doesn't look exactly like him (mainly the hair), his dialogue and personality is completely a typical of ken, how would he get passed the rc cell scanner in the ccg building, how are his eyes back, and so on. i definitely think he might be part kaneki or something a little more in depth than merely having an internal quinque and i'd be willing to bet money that this has something to do arima giving this to sasaki. i just feel as if ken's storyline is over and it would be a bit counter productive to go backwards and to revisit him in the capacity of being a full fledged character i think ishida has something much more nuanced and sinister in mind and i'd be quite disappointed if it was something as simple as kaneki having lost his memories and be working for the other side.


Ya it's a clone dude, but they didn't find the formula for the same hair as Kaneki. No matter how hard they try, they can't make the fucking white hair.
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tankoubon-feind said:
CNTRI715 said:
It's almost like people want Kaneki dead or harvested for organs. I get it though, a bunch are trolling, guess I should just leave it be lol. If all Sasaki was experiencing was hallucinations of Kaneki then I would say maybe he does have his kakuhou, but with everything else adding up so far it just doesn't make sense.

-Some of his memories coming back (realizing he's read a book before in the first chapter)

-Exact same physical appearance, except with black and white hair to match Kaneki's two sides

-Kaneki's habits and mannerisms (finger cracking)

-The fact that he's not in Quinx, meaning he's probably a half ghoul and not a Quinckes

Plenty more but everyone should get the point... And yeah I probably should just let this go at this point and let the story play out. On a side note if Sasaki really was just some random guy who receives Kaneki's organs in an experiment, I actually think it would be pretty interesting having Kaneki alive in Sasaki's mind only, it's just not something that would make a lot of sense at this point.



im still not ready to believe 100% that this is actually kaneki. he doesn't look exactly like him (mainly the hair), his dialogue and personality is completely a typical of ken, how would he get passed the rc cell scanner in the ccg building, how are his eyes back, and so on. i definitely think he might be part kaneki or something a little more in depth than merely having an internal quinque and i'd be willing to bet money that this has something to do arima giving this to sasaki. i just feel as if ken's storyline is over and it would be a bit counter productive to go backwards and to revisit him in the capacity of being a full fledged character i think ishida has something much more nuanced and sinister in mind and i'd be quite disappointed if it was something as simple as kaneki having lost his memories and be working for the other side.
CNTRI715 said:
tankoubon-feind said:


im still not ready to believe 100% that this is actually kaneki. he doesn't look exactly like him (mainly the hair), his dialogue and personality is completely a typical of ken, how would he get passed the rc cell scanner in the ccg building, how are his eyes back, and so on. i definitely think he might be part kaneki or something a little more in depth than merely having an internal quinque and i'd be willing to bet money that this has something to do arima giving this to sasaki. i just feel as if ken's storyline is over and it would be a bit counter productive to go backwards and to revisit him in the capacity of being a full fledged character i think ishida has something much more nuanced and sinister in mind and i'd be quite disappointed if it was something as simple as kaneki having lost his memories and be working for the other side.


Maybe it's just me being stubborn, but I refuse to believe Kaneki's story is done. It has a tragic end in TG, and I want this to be the comeback epic for him, something of a redemption. You're right that Ishida could be messing with us but even then it shouldn't mean the end of Kaneki. What if Sasaki is just some random investigator implanted with Kaneki's kakuhou (for argument's sake), and Kaneki ends up consuming him and taking over his body? Now THAT would be interesting.

I think it would equally be boring for Sasaki to just be a regular guy who receives Kaneki's kakuhou. If Ishida does have some twist in mind though I won't mind, as long as it makes sense.


No, no, no.

Maybe I am being a big baby, but having Sasaki be another guy for arguments sake I will find it totally boring and shonnen like, and for Ishida-sensei not being faithful to his story writing style.
Ishida-sensei never says thing outright, he gives hints and hints and another hint. That is why I believe they are the same person.
Another thing, is that Kaneki's story hasnt finished, the story is inconclusive, so even if everything finishes like a tragedy, sensei has to tie all the loose ends. What enjoyment can I have with another character when I didnt have closure with the old one.
The third is the parallel in the story, the RE in the new manga, the snakes all over Kaneki

But for the sake of the argument I just hope Ishida doesnt come with something as boring as having the organs or whatever, bc then he is changing his storyline from psychological to fanatstical, and then it becomes naruto and bleach. I am here bc is a psychological thriller after all.
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki


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The scene in mind with Rize/Kaneki better be seen like this :

A great power emerges within body, that power were given shape based
on the wielder's psychology, Rize form for Kaneki and Kaneki form for Sasaki.

That means, "The Rize" was actually ghoul power inherited from Rize, awaken under
Jason's torturing. But "The Kaneki" was the centipede Kakugan power that trying to
devour Kaneki before. That's why Sasaki say he won't let "Kaneki" takeover him,
he is not rejecting Kaneki, he is Kaneki himself.

Sasaki do remember the past when he failed to protect his friends, so he's not
hesitated to call the power that will try to devour him again, to protect his
squad.
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tankoubon-feind said:
im still not ready to believe 100% that this is actually kaneki. he doesn't look exactly like him (mainly the hair)

Seriously? The hair? Is that why you're denying about the fact that Kaneki is alive?

tankoubon-feind said:
his dialogue and personality is completely a typical of ken, how would he get passed the rc cell scanner in the ccg building

Who cares about those RC scanners.They can't detect half ghouls anyway and the CCG are already aware of the fact that he's not a normal investigator.

tankoubon-feind said:
how are his eyes back, and so on.

Duh If Kaneki can regrow his fingers and toes then why would getting his eyes be impossible? I mean he has abnormal regeneration abilities because of his rinkaku type.

tankoubon-feind said:
i definitely think he might be part kaneki or something a little more in depth than merely having an internal quinque and i'd be willing to bet money that this has something to do arima giving this to sasaki.

No No he's not part of the quinckes experiment. He doesn't have a quinque inside him. Quinckes are generally human with in-built quinques so they have a limit over their abilities unlike Sasaki. Can't you understand that?

tankoubon-feind said:
i just feel as if ken's storyline is over and it would be a bit counter productive to go backwards and to revisit him in the capacity of being a full fledged character

No its not over. He still has some mental issues that need to get resolved. Haise is another personality of Kaneki. He suffers from multiple personality disorder so you should know this by now.

tankoubon-feind said:
i think ishida has something much more nuanced and sinister in mind and i'd be quite disappointed if it was something as simple as kaneki having lost his memories and be working for the other side.

Do you honestly think Sasaki would be so merciful to ghouls if he had lost his memories? Use some common sense here because it doesn't even need to be explained here.

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Ishida-sensei never says thing outright, he gives hints and hints and another hint. That is why I believe they are the same person.
Another thing, is that Kaneki's story hasnt finished, the story is inconclusive, so even if everything finishes like a tragedy, sensei has to tie all the loose ends.

THIS!!!! Thank god someone understands this. God this can be so tiring.
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Amazinggg !!!!


this gif fucking owned this thread.


Check this shit too.



I updated my numerous profiles with this TG animated gif shit.

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Monteiro said:


this gif fucking owned this thread.


Check this shit too.



I updated my numerous profiles with this TG animated gif shit.

I'm not gonna lie that is so cool.
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^ What is this, it looks like Ayato's Ukaku, but it should be a Rinkaku..
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That panel alone has more than 5 hidden hints. Ishida is really trying hard to test the fans.
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Maledict said:
^ What is this, it looks like Ayato's Ukaku, but it should be a Rinkaku..


i stated this previously in this thread. i think alot of my posts here get overlooked cause my profile pic doesnt show. blegh
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gabyta07 said:
tankoubon-feind said:


im still not ready to believe 100% that this is actually kaneki. he doesn't look exactly like him (mainly the hair), his dialogue and personality is completely a typical of ken, how would he get passed the rc cell scanner in the ccg building, how are his eyes back, and so on. i definitely think he might be part kaneki or something a little more in depth than merely having an internal quinque and i'd be willing to bet money that this has something to do arima giving this to sasaki. i just feel as if ken's storyline is over and it would be a bit counter productive to go backwards and to revisit him in the capacity of being a full fledged character i think ishida has something much more nuanced and sinister in mind and i'd be quite disappointed if it was something as simple as kaneki having lost his memories and be working for the other side.
CNTRI715 said:


Maybe it's just me being stubborn, but I refuse to believe Kaneki's story is done. It has a tragic end in TG, and I want this to be the comeback epic for him, something of a redemption. You're right that Ishida could be messing with us but even then it shouldn't mean the end of Kaneki. What if Sasaki is just some random investigator implanted with Kaneki's kakuhou (for argument's sake), and Kaneki ends up consuming him and taking over his body? Now THAT would be interesting.

I think it would equally be boring for Sasaki to just be a regular guy who receives Kaneki's kakuhou. If Ishida does have some twist in mind though I won't mind, as long as it makes sense.


No, no, no.

Maybe I am being a big baby, but having Sasaki be another guy for arguments sake I will find it totally boring and shonnen like, and for Ishida-sensei not being faithful to his story writing style.
Ishida-sensei never says thing outright, he gives hints and hints and another hint. That is why I believe they are the same person.
Another thing, is that Kaneki's story hasnt finished, the story is inconclusive, so even if everything finishes like a tragedy, sensei has to tie all the loose ends. What enjoyment can I have with another character when I didnt have closure with the old one.
The third is the parallel in the story, the RE in the new manga, the snakes all over Kaneki

But for the sake of the argument I just hope Ishida doesnt come with something as boring as having the organs or whatever, bc then he is changing his storyline from psychological to fanatstical, and then it becomes naruto and bleach. I am here bc is a psychological thriller after all.



GABYTA07 and tankoubon-feind , you do not know how long i was typing a rage filled reply to how much these "it may not actually be kaneki, but what it could be is -" posts i've seen.

most points mirror the same reasons you two brought up being:

characters have exact same physical and mental mannerisms/idiosyncrasies, measurements, interests, even mental conditions and subconcious environment( the checkered room) and ego as one another

a readers disinterest in a new main character because ending closure has not been provided on initial main character or story.

plus why would any writer who doesnt seem to be into "twists" per say but extreme foreshadowing just spring someone (THE MAIN CHARACTER OF ALL PEOPLE) on the readers? my brain hurts from the ignorance of this weeks discussion post and its only been a solid day so far. lol
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Nov 17, 2014 10:42 AM

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^ What is this, it looks like Ayato's Ukaku, but it should be a Rinkaku..


It's coming out of his waist if you look closely but yeah it does look a little weird. I think it's because it hasn't fully manifested while Sasaki is trying to fight it coming out.
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Okay so it's confirm Haise is Kaneki !!
Nov 17, 2014 10:45 AM

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ChromiumSX said:
Okay so it's confirm Haise is Kaneki !!


I mean, yeah a lot of us are saying this and want to leave it at that, but it's never that simple with some people around here :P
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this gif fucking owned this thread.


Check this shit too.



I updated my numerous profiles with this TG animated gif shit.


OMG the Gif is so cool
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ChromiumSX said:
Okay so it's confirm Haise is Kaneki !!


I mean, yeah a lot of us are saying this and want to leave it at that, but it's never that simple with some people around here :P
That is just how it is when you are on the internet.
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Isn't sasaki supposed to be stronger than a s -rank ghoul considering his strength at the end of TG.I would be disappointed if he had trouble dealing with a s-rank ghoul :-(((
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There're more hints that Sasaki is actually Kaneki. In chapter 140, Kaneki said to "old-self" "let's rest A BIT". I think this is the biggest hint that he's still alive and He didn't give up.

I think Sasaki will make a huge mess and chaos all over the place, he's out of control with that terrifying quinque.



The both of them are really cool. :D

It's funny how some people still think that Serpent is Nishiki. They're really desperate to see some old faces. Yeah, Nishiki and Serpent have the same type of Quinque but they're not the only ones who possess it :/ besides this, Nishiki isn't wasn't that evil.
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Isn't sasaki supposed to be stronger than a s -rank ghoul considering his strength at the end of TG.I would be disappointed if he had trouble dealing with a s-rank ghoul :-(((

Ya let's stomp them all. Only an Amon clone can fight of Kaneki clone.
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Amazinggg !!!!


this gif fucking owned this thread.


Sick gif and amazing chapter, I'm extremely excited for next week!!!
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There're more hints that Sasaki is actually Kaneki. In chapter 140, Kaneki said to "old-self" "let's rest A BIT". I think this is the biggest hint that he's still alive and He didn't give up.

I think Sasaki will make a huge mess and chaos all over the place, he's out of control with that terrifying quinque.



The both of them are really cool. :D

It's funny how some people still think that Serpent is Nishiki. They're really desperate to see some old faces. Yeah, Nishiki and Serpent have the same type of Quinque but they're not the only ones who possess it :/ besides this, Nishiki isn't wasn't that evil.



what about the mask?

Can two ghouls have the same exact mask?
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It's funny how some people still think that Serpent is Nishiki. They're really desperate to see some old faces. Yeah, Nishiki and Serpent have the same type of Quinque but they're not the only ones who possess it :/ besides this, Nishiki isn't wasn't that evil.

People don't say that he is Nishiki only because they have the same kagune, but whatever... Nishiki was always evil, he never gave a fuck about doves/most of other ghouls, he cared only for Kimi. He helped and stayed with Anteiku only because they helped him save Kimi. Now if the girl that was showed dead was really Kimi here was the only reason Nishiki gave a shit about anyone thrown out the window.
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Saying that it's not Nishiki is the same as implying that Tokyo Ghoul is published in shonen magazine. TG is published in a Seinen magazine and it was always a tragedy, remember The Clowns, they wanted to see even more depressing scene. There's no point in categorizing characters between good and evil. Remember how Nishiki was an evil motherfucker at first. On top of that Ishida made clear that Serpent is Nishiki, just look at that kick.

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Read the last couple of pages while listening to this, it makes it infinitely better and it's only fitting:



anikaneki said:
i stated this previously in this thread. i think alot of my posts here get overlooked cause my profile pic doesnt show. blegh


I actually read your post, but him being implanted with an Ukaku that's still coming out of his waist sounds too far fetched to me.
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Isn't sasaki supposed to be stronger than a s -rank ghoul considering his strength at the end of TG.I would be disappointed if he had trouble dealing with a s-rank ghoul :-(((

You do know serpent is stronger than an S rank ghoul? His rank is just a temporary one and might increase with time. Even Kaneki had a hard time dealing with an SS rank ghoul if you remember.
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Read the last couple of pages while listening to this, it makes it infinitely better and it's only fitting:





Instead I kept hearing "the trial" by pink floyd while I was reading it lol
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki


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