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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Rip in pip nick you were a git. Seems like the MP killed Nick off, and Christa's mom was a total cunt. |
FastnessofWheelsDec 5, 2013 3:45 PM
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| Christa's mother wanted to kill her, from what I could gather from the Chinese translation with my two years of Chinese. I think she grew up mostly with her grandparents? |
| Loli Historia was cute. |
| AOT chapter 52 raw small translation. • Levi starts out by admonishing the new squad kids about missing a dirty spot during cleaning • Armin describes the plan to take back Wall Maria in just one day via using Eren's own summoning ability as a means to use Titans themselves as the temporary(?) hole blockade • Hanji says she wants to start experimenting with Eren's ability immediately, but that she wants to spend some more time on it - so Eren should remain in hiding for a while longer because unknown internal dangers are still afoot. In fact, she says, Pastor Nick has been murdered. • We flashback to Hanji and Moblit being brought to Nick's body. The Military Police reps claim obliviousness, but Hanji questions why Nick's nails were even removed. After an intense conversation with the MP she concludes to Moblit that Nick was killed via interrogation/torture (Likely due to his connection with the secretive Wall Cult). She feels responsible for his death. TL;DR there are still human enemies within the walls. • Levi: "So now we have two choices. To move onward with our plan before we're stabbed in the back, or get rid of the stabbers first." Hanji: "Let's do both at once." Levi: "Erwin probably would've said the same thing…" • While the squad cooks dinner, Connie is upset at Ymir, but Krista/Historia defends her, saying that she understands Ymir's position. • At dinner Historia starts telling her life story. She was born in an affluent area near the north region within Wall Sina. She felt alone since childhood because her beautiful mother never really cared for her. And she was restricted to staying on the grounds of their ranch. • One day Historia attempted to hug her mother but was slapped away. Her "mother" then said, "If only I had…the courage to kill this creature…" (Yikes) Afterwards her mother left • Five years later, Historia met her father "Rod" (?) Renz. However he also claimed to have no relationship with Historia's mother and Historia herself. The other mysterious men with him then kill the mother, but before Historia is also murdered, Rod makes a deal with her, saying that she can live as long as she leaves the area and changes her name. |
dxia said: keragamming said: There's definitely a conspiracy here. How did Nick fall into the custody of the MP (last we saw, he was with Levi), and what information did they receive about him to justify torturing him to death? Their feigning ignorance is another sign that their actions (and gag order) probably came from higher up. In fact, I think he may have been killed not in the process of meaningful interrogation, but to prevent meaningful interrogation; i.e. whoever's pulling the strings doesn't want him to spill any beans.• We flashback to Hanji and Moblit being brought to Nick's body. The Military Police reps claim obliviousness, but Hanji questions why Nick's nails were even removed. After an intense conversation with the MP she concludes to Moblit that Nick was killed via interrogation/torture (Likely due to his connection with the secretive Wall Cult). She feels responsible for his death. TL;DR there are still human enemies within the walls. I was thinking same thing as well, there is a some higher ups in this. I don't think it's the king though.... |
j0x said: i guess Historia is a titan shape-shifter too Why would you say that? I'm 99.9% positive she's not a titan shifter, but she is definitely involve with the titan shifters forcefully or just coincidence. |
| How can people find the chinese translation before the raw(japanese) version...? I don't get it. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| Never actually thought Historia has such a sad experience when she was a little girl. |
| Historia's mom is basically Rosa Ushiromiya, both looks and personality-wise. Also, RIP Nick-kun ;_; |
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| Here are the English translations: http://imgur.com/a/Kpvgt and http://imgur.com/a/kSw1s |
| The first part: + Break down for the future plans.. - too much talk/dialog.. The second part: + Historia's past.. - Fuck her mother.. she got what she deserved.. 3/5 |
OnePieceQ8 said: The first part: + Break down for the future plans.. - too much talk/dialog.. The second part: + Historia's past.. - Fuck her mother.. she got what she deserved.. 3/5 Same for me good chapter in all, So it looks like there are more titan shifters in the military then? |
| Now I conclude that Historia's mother was a total cunt and really deserved that death. Meh, too much dialog. Come on, Isayama, simplify everything that they are talking about, would you? Or at least could have make Mikasa speak a little more -.- like "Eren, suck my dick. It's obligatory." 3.8/5 |
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| Historia's father was a such a dick. And he's dressed like a beggar in the old Chaplin movies. |
| http://i.imgur.com/mbm95Zo.jpg Why the hell does Hanji have a censorship on her hands? |
| How it is that the Reiss found about Rhodes's illegitimate child 10 years after she had been born? Is it really connected to the Fall of Maria in 845. Pastor Nick was adamant that it would be Historia's right to reveal the secret behind the walls and/or the cult. If he wasn't right, then why he was killed. And why Historia - is the Reiss family currently out of legitimate heirs of something, that the pastor was so particular about her? What's in the north that threatens the Reiss status quo, when the affiliation could become known everywhere else (in the Citadel or the inland) as well? Anyway, I enjoyed this chapter a lot, mostly because it shows the SL in a process of gathering info and choosing actions. Votes for the twin-sword attack - they don't have much options obviously, and I hope Hanji could fork out a stable knowledge out of Eren's new power. Can't rid off the feeling that Grisha will come back into picture soon, especially if Erwin disappears from the scene for a while. Anyway, still would wait for the official TL, but warm thanks for the translation and the earlier bullet points! |
RainbowEater said: http://i.imgur.com/mbm95Zo.jpg Why the hell does Hanji have a censorship on her hands? If you have free time to ask stupid questions why don't you go kill some titans? We're busy here! o.O Now seriously... That was the inverse of Nami's past...sad... and yeah since the last episode, and along with the specials the art has gotten much better. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
OnePieceQ8 said: The first part: + Break down for the future plans.. - too much talk/dialog.. The second part: + Historia's past.. - Fuck her mother.. she got what she deserved.. 3/5 No dude...you can't kill a woman like that. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| Seems like it's an exposition-heavy chapter, which is perfectly fine except that the story's progress continues to crawl at a snail's pace. I was pretty ambivalent towards Christa before, but her character is starting to grow on me. Why is it that the women in this manga are all so fascinating? Mikasa, Annie, Hanji, Ymir, and Christa all together form a pretty damn good lineup. RainbowEater said: http://i.imgur.com/mbm95Zo.jpg Why the hell does Hanji have a censorship on her hands? Seems obvious that it was the scanlators' idea of a joke. I'm sure you can figure out what that joke was. |
| Holy dam that past of Historia, her mother deserved to die. |
| Well, Christa had a happy life until she meet Ymir |
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| What do you guys think about the author changing the ending in attack on titan? http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/12/06-1/author-commands-on-changes-to-attack-on-titan-ending |
keragamming said: What do you guys think about the author changing the ending in attack on titan? http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/12/06-1/author-commands-on-changes-to-attack-on-titan-ending That we have already a thread for it http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=700739 |
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pralan said: keragamming said: What do you guys think about the author changing the ending in attack on titan? http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/12/06-1/author-commands-on-changes-to-attack-on-titan-ending That we have already a thread for it http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=700739 thnx didn't know... :) |
| So the wall cult knew about the possibility of Eren having the power to control other titans and tried to take custody of Eren at the court... but I don't think they control everything since they couldn't influence the supreme commander decision to give eren to the survey corps. or maybe he's alone in this and actually know nothing. On the other hand we have the titan trio which are obviously fighting against them. which bring us to the question... is the Ape titan connected to the wall cult or is he alone? edit: other things worth mentioning in this chapter: 1- nick being a faithful to his belief and not reveling anything even after they ripped all his nails and torture him to death. 2- hanji testing eren power and make him acquire the hardening ability. 3- Eren comprehension skills is not that far from connie lol. 4- christa actually know nothing... |
IshtaRinDec 6, 2013 8:49 PM
RainbowEater said: http://i.imgur.com/mbm95Zo.jpg Why the hell does Hanji have a censorship on her hands? It's an inside joke in 4chan's /a/ board. See other things like "pomf" and "abloobloobloo". These scans are full of trolling. EDIT: so yes, I'm spoonfeeding. |
gomennasaiDec 6, 2013 8:57 PM
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Dzeraph said: pkKodama said: No dude...you can't kill a woman like that. Too bad we are in 2013. huh...what? You mean... it's 2013 so It's ok to kill a woman...? I hope you're not serious (눈▂눈) |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
pkKodama said: OnePieceQ8 said: The first part: + Break down for the future plans.. - too much talk/dialog.. The second part: + Historia's past.. - Fuck her mother.. she got what she deserved.. 3/5 No dude...you can't kill a woman like that. That there textbook sexism Nobody really deserves to die like that, but let's be honest her mother wasn't the nicest person around. Yeah this chapter reveals some good info but it dragged on a little. Lol'd a little at the start when Eren face palmed at Levi finding dirt. |
Xinception said: I don't think that Nick is being tortured for his knowledge about the Cult.... I think he's being tortured for helping out the Scouting Legion, albeit not by much. And. I don't think that they're testing Eren's diamondize ability, they're testing if Eren can command other Titans to do that. My bad I meant that he didn't betray his "new" comrades and reveal that he shared his knowledge, also I don't think they tortured him without trying to extract that exact amount of information he actually shared.... because depending on "how much" the scouting legion know they might have to silence them all. Also if you went back and read what Armin/hanji said you will see that they want to test the hardening ability first, because Armin wants to seal wall maria using eren body... that's their number one priority for now. they did mention eren ability to control titan but I don't think they can test it out without actual titians being around and this is hardly an option with them wanting to stay hidden. |
| Nick was ready to die at the top of the wall, no surprise that he preferred to die than to reveal his secrets and betray his friends. We don't know if he wanted to protect the Wallism or his new comrades however he died in a brave way after a really poor life (alchool addicted, his wife left him etc). I don't like Historia's flashback. When I read it I thought immediately "OMG! Not another orphan mistreated from everybody! " I think that Isayama could do better than using such a cheap cliché. The potato girl is really a first class mademoiselle..... Look at her manneres at table, licking her bowl ! She's really funny, I like her! |
| I think that Hanji wants to test Eren's hardening ability. Probably Eren has this power however I can't understand how he could seal the hole. The hole seems to be bigger then Eren. Would't be easier to order the mindless titan to leave Wall Maria and than seal the hole with normal brics? |
MikasaxEren said: pkKodama said: OnePieceQ8 said: The first part: + Break down for the future plans.. - too much talk/dialog.. The second part: + Historia's past.. - Fuck her mother.. she got what she deserved.. 3/5 No dude...you can't kill a woman like that. That there textbook sexism Nobody really deserves to die like that, but let's be honest her mother wasn't the nicest person around. Yeah this chapter reveals some good info but it dragged on a little. Lol'd a little at the start when Eren face palmed at Levi finding dirt. Dzeraph said: pkKodama said: huh...what? You mean... it's 2013 so It's ok to kill a woman...? I hope you're not serious (눈▂눈) No. I mean is not more or less OK to kill a woman than a man. Sexism? I never said you could kill anything except for women, pay attention. And "Let's be honest"? You're not being honest you're being a low-life bastard. I don't get how people are hating like that, but I guess it's no surprise since there are people mind fucked enough to want an ending where everyone dies... my eyes hurt while reading these comments http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=700739 And don't try to argue with this or call me a fanboy. Whoever disagrees, you're just wrong, wake up! |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
ryoko74 said: I think that Hanji wants to test Eren's hardening ability. Probably Eren has this power however I can't understand how he could seal the hole. The hole seems to be bigger then Eren. Would't be easier to order the mindless titan to leave Wall Maria and than seal the hole with normal brics? It's not only bigger, the only assumption that Eren could have a hardening ability is based on the fact that human-titans share the ability to different degrees. The Armored titan, the FT, Ymir, and the wall-titans, have some connection with the crystallization, but Bert, Eren, and the Beast titan, as well as the ordinary and deviant classes - don't. It's not clear if the wall titans are literally Colossals like Bert, but then again, making a wall (or filling a gap in said wall) of human-titans could require more than the hardening ability. The way I see it, currently, Eren is as good as commanding the mindless ones to move. This alone could help a squad to reach the basement safely. If the basement contains indeed important secrets or explains how the hardening ability works or how a human-titan could be walled in the gaps, then the recovery of Wall Maria could take place. That is, the basement is the key with what Eren can offer now, unless they experiment and discover something tying their goals together. Moreover, if Eren serves as a brick in the wall only, what happens after that? |
| For a manga that gets a monthly release the pacing is way too slow. I suppose the developments of Pastor Nick getting killed were interesting. But it was interesting 10 pages in, once it got to 20 pages I was like "OK, can we move on", then we get a flashback -_-. OK I'm not against a character getting backstory but the timing SUCKS. After half a chapter spent going on and on and on about the same subject, we get something entirely detached from current events. Funnily enough, I don't care for Historia and still don't. The overly dramatic tragic past did nothing for me Monthly issue, with an ending nowhere in sight, so many questions still left unanswered, this chapter killed any anticipation I ever had for these manga issues |
DarkCyclone said: For a manga that gets a monthly release the pacing is way too slow. I suppose the developments of Pastor Nick getting killed were interesting. But it was interesting 10 pages in, once it got to 20 pages I was like "OK, can we move on", then we get a flashback -_-. OK I'm not against a character getting backstory but the timing SUCKS. After half a chapter spent going on and on and on about the same subject, we get something entirely detached from current events. Funnily enough, I don't care for Historia and still don't. The overly dramatic tragic past did nothing for me Monthly issue, with an ending nowhere in sight, so many questions still left unanswered, this chapter killed any anticipation I ever had for these manga issues Agree, Historia's past wasn't relevant and Armin just repeated the same thing. And yeah... a monthly issue. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| ^ Someone already connected the black-haired MP guy with one of the Reiss killers :) Hilarity ensues. |
DarkCyclone said: For a manga that gets a monthly release the pacing is way too slow. I suppose the developments of Pastor Nick getting killed were interesting. But it was interesting 10 pages in, once it got to 20 pages I was like "OK, can we move on", then we get a flashback -_-. OK I'm not against a character getting backstory but the timing SUCKS. After half a chapter spent going on and on and on about the same subject, we get something entirely detached from current events. Funnily enough, I don't care for Historia and still don't. The overly dramatic tragic past did nothing for me Monthly issue, with an ending nowhere in sight, so many questions still left unanswered, this chapter killed any anticipation I ever had for these manga issues All aboard the monthly suffering train. |
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| What a horrible mom Christa had. She got what she deserved. |
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zellami said: ryoko74 said: I think that Hanji wants to test Eren's hardening ability. Probably Eren has this power however I can't understand how he could seal the hole. The hole seems to be bigger then Eren. Would't be easier to order the mindless titan to leave Wall Maria and than seal the hole with normal brics? It's not only bigger, the only assumption that Eren could have a hardening ability is based on the fact that human-titans share the ability to different degrees. The Armored titan, the FT, Ymir, and the wall-titans, have some connection with the crystallization, but Bert, Eren, and the Beast titan, as well as the ordinary and deviant classes - don't. It's not clear if the wall titans are literally Colossals like Bert, but then again, making a wall (or filling a gap in said wall) of human-titans could require more than the hardening ability. The way I see it, currently, Eren is as good as commanding the mindless ones to move. This alone could help a squad to reach the basement safely. If the basement contains indeed important secrets or explains how the hardening ability works or how a human-titan could be walled in the gaps, then the recovery of Wall Maria could take place. That is, the basement is the key with what Eren can offer now, unless they experiment and discover something tying their goals together. Moreover, if Eren serves as a brick in the wall only, what happens after that? if you take a look at annie and her current form undeground you will see that the size and shape of her crystal is way bigger than her own mass, if we apply the same logic but with a titan body eren can actually fill the hole easily. |
| Damn, Historia had it rough when she was young, those words her mother said to her before she died must've had a huge impact on her, for a girl at such a young age. Loved this chapter c: |
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| Well Pastor Nick dead and Historia's past. Her mom deserved that. Too bad they has not been action bcause it was too slow. |
| Come on people, it's a transitional chapter. Though I really wish we could have seen some experiments this time to keep some of last chapter's intrigue going.. |
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| Im really curious though,how are they planning to go outside the walls after finding the backstabbers? |
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