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lol @ Ichigo xD

The new captain commander is Shunnsui!? :O

Unohana is one of the strongest? shocker o.o

My favorite part of the whole chapter:

hehehehe ♥
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Dec 11, 2012 11:49 PM
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Damn, I knew Unohana is the strongest there.

I want to see her power!
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NO! NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO!! NO F****** WAY!! Seriously?! Unohana?! The FIRST Kenpachi?! SHE was that kind of badass?!

............................Wait. Why is her first name Yachiru?
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Oh, didn't see this coming.
And we will finally get to see Kenpachi learning the sword...
that means getting his own shikai... heck he could learn bankai in a day.

That'll be exciting to see.
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Woah epic chapter, the new captain commander has been chosen. Good thing it went to Kyoraku.
Knew it all along that Unohana was the strongest and the most badass, can't wait til see what she can do. Hopefully an epic bankai.
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Kyouraku the new Captain Commander as predicted by others on the last chapters, cant wait for Zaraki's training to power up
damn i guess Renji is one of the Special War Potentials
and lol Unohana looks fucking badass and ready to kick some ass
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I guess I'm cool with Kyoraku being the new Captain Commander. What I'm really interested in though, is seeing just how powerful Zaraki and Unohana truly are! I expect some epic training arcs in the coming weeks!
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her power is so great, that the late captain-commander Genryuusai told her NOT to go to battle. remember what his power did to soul society.

imagine what hers would do.
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karsten69 said:
her power is so great, that the late captain-commander Genryuusai told her NOT to go to battle. remember what his power did to soul society.

imagine what hers would do.


I know right Fai been saying she is the strongest in SS. This just proves it not even the CC is stronger than her.

I knew it was always strange that she never fault. Using that medic shit as a cover. lol

I can't want wait to see Zaraki and Unohaha full strength.

I didnt see Yachiru part coming. I dont think anybody guessed that.
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daaaaaaaaaaaamn unohana & yachiru are the same person !!!
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But why is her name Yachiru?Was Yachiru just named after the first kenpachi name or are they related somehow?


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bonifide said:

I can't want wait to see Zaraki and Unohaha full strength.


I know what you mean, I just REALLY hope we get the full training and not just pieces of it, like we did with Ichigo's bankai.
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The manga will end with Zaraki saying "bankai".


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But why is her name Yachiru?Was Yachiru just named after the first kenpachi name or are they related somehow?


Yachiru (vice captain) was named after the only one Zaraki ever respected. now it comes full circle.
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Shunsui being CC was predictable, but not the ending o.o
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Dec 12, 2012 12:40 AM

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HAHAHA teach Kenpachi the art of killing? E. P. I. C.

Haha even Yamamoto didn't take training too far. Huge compliment that they are banking on Kenpachi to be able to make the difference between the destruction of Soul Society and its survival. Not only that, the fact they also think he won't be able to be stopped if he does power up and start a revolt shows his potential is REDONKULOUS.

Clearly we now see the true reason as to why he's considered a special war potential alongside Ichigo and Aizen, not that we never understood it to an extent before!
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Fiji said:
Oh, didn't see this coming.
And we will finally get to see Kenpachi learning the sword...
that means getting his own shikai... heck he could learn bankai in a day.

That'll be exciting to see.


Hes already in shikai mode. Just like Ichigo, his reiatsu is so high he's always in shikai.

O.M.F.G. I called kyouraku being made capt-commander. Holy crap that was one of my favourite moments in all of bleach. What he said to Nanao, did he mean they wouldnt meet as captain and vice-captain again? Because it wouldn't make sense if they would never see eachother...

The first kenpachi. I've been waiting for this moment since shy politely smiled and requested people stop, and they shat themselves. Her training Kenpachi. Who they are afraid to train. This. Will. Be. Epic.
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What a great chapter i haven't been this excited for anything bleach related since the beginning of the aizen conspiracy. I hope Kubo doesn't troll the fandom again since things are finally looking up for bleach again. It may of took him a long time but the bleach universe is finally starting to coming together as one cohesive entity in this finale and I'm fucking excited.
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Boom!! New captain-commander..



Oh yeah!! She's too badass XD
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Hypeathon said:


............................Wait. Why is her first name Yachiru?


cadu_ said:
But why is her name Yachiru?Was Yachiru just named after the first kenpachi name or are they related somehow?






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Who could have guessed.
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I love how much of a freak Kenpachi is. I mean, to become the current Kenpachi he defeated the former one, and each Kenpachi is the strongest shinigami(aside from Unohana I'd safely assume) so for him to come off the street out of nowhere and actually kill the Kenpachi at the time, nice work!

I wonder what his relationship with Unohana is though? I mean, he said he named Yachiru after the only person he ever CARED about. To actually care about her means there's some backstory to them. Can't wait to find that out too!
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The manga will end with Zaraki saying "bankai".

and i would be okay with that, only thing keeping me interested is those two
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So Unohana is not only a kendo master but the 1st kenpachi. It'll be interesting to see her and Zaraki interact. I don't know how i feel about zaraki getting a power boost though. His power level was already over hyped and all his fights, excluding the last one, ended with him killing the enemy with one hit. Giving him a bankai is probably just going to allow him to continue his streak of boring one hit kill battles.
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Oh Unohana is the strongest shinigami eh !!

This is gonna be good, now that I think about it I never saw her fighting at all but after this I guess she is going to get some action !!
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am i the only one how thinks that the author no longer have good ideas that's why he is just putting random things to continue this series?
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Yea im pumped about Unohana, and Zaraki and all, but im wondering something else. What did Yakuza dude mean when he said "Now I can see why the Spirit King fell for him" meaning Ichigo. I wonder what he was implying there, and what does he want with Ichigo. Also when Shunshui said, we cant be certain if they will make it back safe or not. What the hell are they planning on doing with Ichigo and Co?
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Then don't read it?

I don't understand all these people who continually pay out on Bleach and say it's been shit since the end of the Soul Society arc but have read every chapter since.

SNORE.
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frozen_soul said:
am i the only one how thinks that the author no longer have good ideas that's why he is just putting random things to continue this series?
In cases such as making Ichigo a quincy and a bunch of other instances I would agree but this is actually kubo using a random power up he's rarely shown known as "foreshadowing". This revelation was hinted at a very long time ago when kenpachi named himself and yachiru.
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This chapter was surprising I was more shocked that Unohana was the first kenpachi and we also finally have a new captain commander Kyouraku! and o dear why does it sound like the soul king wants to rape ichigo?

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Now, that's a chapter :D
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Unohana. Called it~

Also 0th Squad continues being shady. I am beginning to think that Soul King is something like God-Emperror of Mankind and the people RG brought there are for the same purpose as Sensei are in Warhammer 40k - something for Soul king to snack on...

5/5


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am i the only one how thinks that the author no longer have good ideas that's why he is just putting random things to continue this series?


Not really, Unohana's strength has been hinted since the very first databook and Kubo kept hyping her every arc - even freaking Aizen feared her, not to mention that at least few months ago Kubo already said that Unohana was sparring with Kenpachi in kendo as well as that Unohana was the best swordsman in entire SS.

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her power is so great, that the late captain-commander Genryuusai told her NOT to go to battle. remember what his power did to soul society.

imagine what hers would do.


I know right Fai been saying she is the strongest in SS. This just proves it not even the CC is stronger than her.

I knew it was always strange that she never fault. Using that medic shit as a cover. lol

I can't want wait to see Zaraki and Unohaha full strength.

I didnt see Yachiru part coming. I dont think anybody guessed that.


Not necessarily, Yamaji had better overall stats, but Unohana has at least 2x the amount of Yamaji's offensive power and pretty much maximum capabilities at kido.
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Very good chapter I like Shunsui, don't know why he still hasn't his eye healed though x).
So this "very fishy" reason why they didn't take Zaraki is because of his incoming training(the thing when someone from the 0 division said to Unohana that there is something she has to do or should be doing). I like this better than fan-fiction writer's version ;].
Some things that bothered me.
1. So Okikiba lives? Man, you really have to be smashed into pieces to die in Bleach.
2. Yama tried to teach Zaraki the sword, but stopped after one day. << But yet because of that training he was able to defeat Noitora?
3. It was hint of Ichigo's 'amazing' speed? When Yakuza-dude punched him? It's kind of frustrating to see it only when Kubo remebers about it.
Still: 4/5.
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Don't quite get what happened at the end? o.o'
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Shunsui Kyōraku as Captain Commander is gonna teach Zaraki the art of killing? Art of killing = Zaraki getting a bankai = End of the world. YES PLEASE!!

Holy shit that ending!! Unohana was the first Kenpachi and her real name is Yachiru? Zaraki and Yachiru had a relationship in the past? Oh shi-
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Uno train zak… or something~
can't remember what was typed there Dx
Oh right because to me it sounded like they were going to train unohana up 'properly'… The new CC was talking about training zakari … whilst the court were talking about unohana…
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So is it safe to say that Unohana is the next war potential?

Ichigo
Kenpachi
Aizen
Unohana

Who is the last? And are the war potentials strictly down to the Shinigami side or can it be somebody else? Ishida is meant to have some uber power, and there's gotta be something up with Isshin too. Maybe even Ryuuken?
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tankoubon-feind said:
frozen_soul said:
am i the only one how thinks that the author no longer have good ideas that's why he is just putting random things to continue this series?
In cases such as making Ichigo a quincy and a bunch of other instances I would agree but this is actually kubo using a random power up he's rarely shown known as "foreshadowing". This revelation was hinted at a very long time ago when kenpachi named himself and yachiru.
Even the Quincy part was hinted (Ichigo = True Blood according to Grand Fisher, Aizen saying Ichigo is extraordinary but Isshin interrupted him before continuing his "You're human and..")

It's funny how people are trying to make up reasons for Bleach being still bad when it's obviously getting pretty good, whether it's in the ratings (last 2 weeks it was in the top 5, this week it's in the 7th place) or the general opinions of people, or the actual content. It's also pretty ironic how people think Oda and Kishimoto were/are planning things out for a long time and Kubo isn't. (I know Kubo was just milking money in the last 2 arcs, but that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't have plans for Bleach's "last" arc)

Though I'm still wondering why do people take it that seriously when it's supposed to be just entertainment..

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An interesting plot-twist at the end. So from MrSonic's post it looks like Kenpachi knew the previous Kenpachi and Yachiru, who in both cases is Unohana. Their training should be interesting.

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So is it safe to say that Unohana is the next war potential?

Ichigo
Kenpachi
Aizen
Unohana

Who is the last? And are the war potentials strictly down to the Shinigami side or can it be somebody else? Ishida is meant to have some uber power, and there's gotta be something up with Isshin too. Maybe even Ryuuken?
Renji?
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wow nice catch there, so Zaraki's love interest is Unohana
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Tenjirou referring to Ichigo "I can see why the king of souls would fall for him" ??? Is the soul king a little fruity or is the translation a little off?
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Candor said:
An interesting plot-twist at the end. So from MrSonic's post it looks like Kenpachi knew the previous Kenpachi and Yachiru, who in both cases is Unohana. Their training should be interesting.

You don't think there was a Kenpachi between the current and Unohana? Weren't there a bunch of Shinigami who were witness to Kenpachi killing the previous though? Or was that something shown during the Bount arc which means it probably doesn't matter to the true story of Bleach?

I read too many mangas and forget some details about all of them haha. :(

Edit: I don't think Unohana was the previous Kenpachi. During the Turn Back the Pendulum arc, wasn't she already Divison 4 captain? And Zaraki wasn't around then? He must be quite old to have a history with a woman who was in the Gotei 13 1000 years ago. Heh.
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Candor said:
tankoubon-feind said:
frozen_soul said:
am i the only one how thinks that the author no longer have good ideas that's why he is just putting random things to continue this series?
In cases such as making Ichigo a quincy and a bunch of other instances I would agree but this is actually kubo using a random power up he's rarely shown known as "foreshadowing". This revelation was hinted at a very long time ago when kenpachi named himself and yachiru.
Even the Quincy part was hinted (Ichigo = True Blood according to Grand Fisher, Aizen saying Ichigo is extraordinary but Isshin interrupted him before continuing his "You're human and..")

It's funny how people are trying to make up reasons for Bleach being still bad when it's obviously getting pretty good, whether it's in the ratings (last 2 weeks it was in the top 5, this week it's in the 7th place) or the general opinions of people, or the actual content. It's also pretty ironic how people think Oda and Kishimoto were/are planning things out for a long time and Kubo isn't. (I know Kubo was just milking money in the last 2 arcs, but that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't have plans for Bleach's "last" arc)

Though I'm still wondering why do people take it that seriously when it's supposed to be just entertainment..



Kubo obviously did a lot of planning - for example, Shinji was on one of first chapter covers, Aizen and Ichigo facing Juha Bach(or Soul King, its unclear since its just a black human-shaped shadow) was on the double-spread at the start of Fullbring arc, fishy-stuff about Badge was foreshadowed by Ishida at the end of SS arc, etc(I am sure I am missing some of that). Yet people still act all "NO WAI, ASSPULL" when it becomes relevant.

While all it takes is Kishi using one throw-away name from few chapters ago(Madara) for the name of the supposed final villain and entire community starts praising his name.

It seems, people just love to underplay it in Bleach due to the whole "omg trolling" fad that has been going on for past few years.

I can't wait till people do the whole "asspull freak out" again, when its revealed that Rukia was somehow involved with either Ichigo's birth or Masaki's death (since, as I said before, we already know she was in Karakura before and had her memory erased)

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wow nice catch there, so Zaraki's love interest is Unohana

Other translation has Zaraki say he named Yachiru after "the strongest person he ever heard of"(hence "Yachiru" is like "Battōsai" in Kenshin - fabled and feared person, hence why Unohana changed her name) , so let's not rush to assumptions - Zaraki is most likely younger than her by more than few hundreds of years, after all.

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Candor said:
An interesting plot-twist at the end. So from MrSonic's post it looks like Kenpachi knew the previous Kenpachi and Yachiru, who in both cases is Unohana. Their training should be interesting.

You don't think there was a Kenpachi between the current and Unohana? Weren't there a bunch of Shinigami who were witness to Kenpachi killing the previous though? Or was that something shown during the Bount arc which means it probably doesn't matter to the true story of Bleach?

I read too many mangas and forget some details about all of them haha. :(

Edit: I don't think Unohana was the previous Kenpachi. During the Turn Back the Pendulum arc, wasn't she already Divison 4 captain? And Zaraki wasn't around then? He must be quite old to have a history with a woman who was in the Gotei 13 1000 years ago. Heh.


Zaraki is the 11th Kenpachi of SS - that means there were 10 before him and Unohana most likely who STARTED the tradition of calling that position a Kenpachi - its quite obvious that Unohana is one of Yamaji's accomplices from Divisions-times. We do know that she is older than Shunsui and Ukitake, though.
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antonnn said:
Candor said:
An interesting plot-twist at the end. So from MrSonic's post it looks like Kenpachi knew the previous Kenpachi and Yachiru, who in both cases is Unohana. Their training should be interesting.

You don't think there was a Kenpachi between the current and Unohana? Weren't there a bunch of Shinigami who were witness to Kenpachi killing the previous though? Or was that something shown during the Bount arc which means it probably doesn't matter to the true story of Bleach?

I read too many mangas and forget some details about all of them haha. :(

Edit: I don't think Unohana was the previous Kenpachi. During the Turn Back the Pendulum arc, wasn't she already Divison 4 captain? And Zaraki wasn't around then? He must be quite old to have a history with a woman who was in the Gotei 13 1000 years ago. Heh.
Dunno why I thought Unohana was the previous Kenpachi when it was clearly said she's the first one. I kinda forgot for a second that there were previous Kenpachis before Zaraki, my bad.
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Now we know why Shunsui and Ukitake was scared of Unohana. They never talked back to her.

I actually feel sorry for Bach. Zaraki will get his revenge.
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Unohana is the first Kenpachi, I didn´t see that one coming!
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I actually feel sorry for Bach. Zaraki will get his revenge.


The guy who beat Zaraki is already dead.
So unless it was actually that other bishie who broke Ichigo's sword that defeated Zaraki, there is no way he could get his revenge.
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bonifide said:

I actually feel sorry for Bach. Zaraki will get his revenge.


The guy who beat Zaraki is already dead.
So unless it was actually that other bishie who broke Ichigo's sword that defeated Zaraki, there is no way he could get his revenge.


I'm talking about Juhabach i just like calling him Bach.
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bonifide said:
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bonifide said:

I actually feel sorry for Bach. Zaraki will get his revenge.


The guy who beat Zaraki is already dead.
So unless it was actually that other bishie who broke Ichigo's sword that defeated Zaraki, there is no way he could get his revenge.


I'm talking about Juhabach i just like calling him Bach.


But Bach never fought against Zaraki. Bach was with Aizen during that time. The one that hold Zaraki was a fake.
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Pretty neat chap.
So that healing water... was kind of a test as well.
And what's with Shunsui anyways? Am I missing something?
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SetsukoHara said:
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SetsukoHara said:
bonifide said:

I actually feel sorry for Bach. Zaraki will get his revenge.


The guy who beat Zaraki is already dead.
So unless it was actually that other bishie who broke Ichigo's sword that defeated Zaraki, there is no way he could get his revenge.


I'm talking about Juhabach i just like calling him Bach.


But Bach never fought against Zaraki. Bach was with Aizen during that time. The one that hold Zaraki was a fake.


Oh yeah i 4got lol im sorry
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