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May 1, 2012 12:52 PM
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Why are manga versions of animes normally better ??? or why do a huge majority of anime adaptation of manga's not always live up to the original manga ?? Good day fellas/ladies, as of today I came to share my new find, wouldn't call it new but its new to me. First of all I would like to begin with saying im a casual anime viewer, I like everything about anime, the sounds, colors and everything in-between and until recently I have stayed away from manga for no particular reason ( guess I just like when a story is presented to me in video where all I have to do is sit and move my eyes once so often ) then I finished watching Berserk and was EXTREMELY disappointed by the ending. just to hear its still on-going in the manga and was surprised how much better the story is laid out in the manga than in the anime, after that I went back and watched a few of the anime's I've watched before and a quick read of the manga version and almost all manga have a better story, things are explained better,and a better feel to it in the manga than anime, something I find strange but true. It just boggles my mind how most manga's are better than the anime adaptation (sometimes even down to the art, black and white manga illustrations somehow, sometimes outshines different bright colorful anime illustrations ) and since the manga came out first how do they manage to downgrade the quality instead of an up-grade. I have seen the light and started reading manga and man o man, to think I once looked down upon manga's and only watched anime... |
Be4stJun 28, 2013 9:43 AM
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May 1, 2012 1:02 PM
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More things to hate on anime wise than manga wise. I've seen people going on about complaining about "quarity animation" posting a single frame or two of bad a animation scene or complain about the music, the voices/seiyus, etc so on and so on. Also the "the anime has a open ending" argument. There's just less to hate about manga than anime. That's just my point of view, I generally enjoy my anime more. |
May 1, 2012 1:06 PM
#3
Filler |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
May 1, 2012 1:19 PM
#4
Well there's more time to tell the story. Also the mangaka probably give it a lot of thought beforehand and aren't restricted by a strict 24-minute episode and 12-episode season. Art is subjective. I will generally disagree with you there. |
May 1, 2012 1:21 PM
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The author can take as much or as little time as they want to tell a story and they don't have to cater to the interests of (or compromise with) anybody else. Manga is usually the work of a small handful of like-minded people, whereas anime is the product of dozens of people who make their own little marks on the work. Sometimes the material itself is just better in manga format. Sometimes a popular manga is adapted to an anime before it's finished and it either has to stop at an incomplete point or make an anime original ending. Anime usually has less detail in the art because it has to be animated and is constrained by a small budget. Manga doesn't have these limitations, the art is able to be as detailed as the artist is able to make it. The key limiting factor would probably be a deadline, if there is one. I won't say one's better than the other, they're both two sides of the same coin. |
May 1, 2012 1:23 PM
#6
Anime usually has less detail in the art because it has to be animated and is constrained by a small budget. Manga doesn't have these limitations, the art is able to be as detailed as the artist is able to make it. The key limiting factor would probably be a deadline, if there is one. Manga is usually published chapter by chapter in weekly magazines. There's still things like budget and deadlines in place. |
May 1, 2012 1:30 PM
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Anime_Name said: Anime usually has less detail in the art because it has to be animated and is constrained by a small budget. Manga doesn't have these limitations, the art is able to be as detailed as the artist is able to make it. The key limiting factor would probably be a deadline, if there is one. Manga is usually published chapter by chapter in weekly magazines. There's still things like budget and deadlines in place. I don't think it's spread nearly as thin as with anime. I don't have any statistics to back it up, but it seems like there would be a lot less overhead. The distribution would probably be a lot more, but at the same time you don't have to hire composers, voice actors, directors, screenwriters... The amount of manga out there makes the medium look a lot less risk-intensive in comparison to anime. |
May 1, 2012 2:05 PM
#8
I don't think it is always the case. With some animes, the manga is almost identical. If I take... Elfen Lied as an example - the anime is almost identical up to a point and then stops but the manga continues the story even further. I believe most mangas are written previous to the anime (in most cases) so are generally the basis. And some mangas are based off visual novels too (which go into even more detail). I think sometimes, you just can't get everything into a 12 or 24 episode anime and this is the problem that animes sometimes have. Almost like when a book gets made into a film. One of the animes that had a massive issue with this was maybe Umineko - the anime didn't quite get all the concepts across in quite the same way the manga/VN did. I love both anime and manga. And usually when I watch an anime I will search for and read the manga as I love to know the full background and all the little extra bits about the characters. But unlike some, I wouldn't say that manga was at all 'better' than anime. Just different. Though, the only manga I had to drop because I adored the anime so much more was Jigoku Shoujo. I love the art so they are always fun to read and often you get a bit more to the story too~ |
If you're going to put up a show of torture...I'm sorry, but I'd rather leave the stage. – Furude Rika, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni |
May 1, 2012 2:10 PM
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Fui said: Well there's more time to tell the story. Also the mangaka probably give it a lot of thought beforehand and aren't restricted by a strict 24-minute episode and 12-episode season. Art is subjective. I will generally disagree with you there. And when they make an anime adaptation don't you think they will put allot of though in it ?, if its worth the time, money and effort ?? I hear you all, but what I still don't understand is, a manga gets an adaptation when its considered popular or worthy enough, it makes zero sense to me how anime's turn out worse when the author's/publishers/staff working on the anime normally have enough feedback from the manga to perhaps make some minor adjustments for the good other than major adjustments that don't benefit the anime/manga. |
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May 1, 2012 2:15 PM
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Fui said: Well there's more time to tell the story. Also the mangaka probably give it a lot of thought beforehand and aren't restricted by a strict 24-minute episode and 12-episode season. Um what that does not ring true for older anime when most Tv anime woold last at leat 30 episodes ots olny post crash less anime have lasted under this aver-ridge |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
May 1, 2012 2:16 PM
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Diassia said: I don't think it is always the case. With some animes, the manga is almost identical. I wouldn't say that manga was at all 'better' than anime. Just different. Though, the only manga I had to drop because I adored the anime so much more was Jigoku Shoujo. I love the art so they are always fun to read and often you get a bit more to the story too~ For3veR said: Why are manga versions of animes normally better ??? or why do a huge majority of anime adaptation of manga's not always live up to the original manga ?? It just boggles my mind how most manga's are better than the anime adaptation (sometimes even down to the art, black and white manga illustrations somehow, sometimes outshines different bright colorful anime illustrations ) and since the manga came out first how do they manage to downgrade the quality instead of an up-grade. |
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May 1, 2012 2:25 PM
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Depends |
May 1, 2012 3:05 PM
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sleeplesstown said: Anime_Name said: Anime usually has less detail in the art because it has to be animated and is constrained by a small budget. Manga doesn't have these limitations, the art is able to be as detailed as the artist is able to make it. The key limiting factor would probably be a deadline, if there is one. Manga is usually published chapter by chapter in weekly magazines. There's still things like budget and deadlines in place. I don't think it's spread nearly as thin as with anime. I don't have any statistics to back it up, but it seems like there would be a lot less overhead. The distribution would probably be a lot more, but at the same time you don't have to hire composers, voice actors, directors, screenwriters... The amount of manga out there makes the medium look a lot less risk-intensive in comparison to anime. I do not know why people are so obsessed with things being the same. All I said was manga still has the constraints of deadlines and budgets. |
May 1, 2012 3:18 PM
#14
Anime_Name said: Anime usually has less detail in the art because it has to be animated and is constrained by a small budget. Manga doesn't have these limitations, the art is able to be as detailed as the artist is able to make it. The key limiting factor would probably be a deadline, if there is one. Manga is usually published chapter by chapter in weekly magazines. There's still things like budget and deadlines in place. I have to say many times i found manga art to be better but this season many anime seem to do better. Sign that the anime art is improving nicely? |
May 1, 2012 3:20 PM
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Monad said: Anime_Name said: Anime usually has less detail in the art because it has to be animated and is constrained by a small budget. Manga doesn't have these limitations, the art is able to be as detailed as the artist is able to make it. The key limiting factor would probably be a deadline, if there is one. Manga is usually published chapter by chapter in weekly magazines. There's still things like budget and deadlines in place. I have to say many times i found manga art to be better but this season many anime seem to do better. Sign that the anime art is improving nicely? Agreed. |
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May 1, 2012 3:24 PM
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For3veR said: Diassia said: I don't think it is always the case. With some animes, the manga is almost identical. I wouldn't say that manga was at all 'better' than anime. Just different. Though, the only manga I had to drop because I adored the anime so much more was Jigoku Shoujo. I love the art so they are always fun to read and often you get a bit more to the story too~ For3veR said: Why are manga versions of animes normally better ??? or why do a huge majority of anime adaptation of manga's not always live up to the original manga ?? It just boggles my mind how most manga's are better than the anime adaptation (sometimes even down to the art, black and white manga illustrations somehow, sometimes outshines different bright colorful anime illustrations ) and since the manga came out first how do they manage to downgrade the quality instead of an up-grade. I wasn't arguing. That was only my point of view :) It is very series dependent. And of course dependent on the production company ^^ |
If you're going to put up a show of torture...I'm sorry, but I'd rather leave the stage. – Furude Rika, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni |
May 1, 2012 6:55 PM
#17
@Diassia Wasn't implying you were arguing, just thought you thought I thought that manga version is always better than anime version, nevertheless I do appreciate your reply. Compared to many of you here im just a newly hatched birdie without my wings when it comes to manga, anime, visual novels & all japanese culture related stuff. ( MAL has some genuine, certified, bonafide otakus ). Let me fly... |
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May 1, 2012 7:19 PM
#18
It has less to do with the medium but more to do with how adaptations generally are weaker than the original source. People would also generally say the visual novels were better than the anime, or that the light novels were better than anime. That and people are generally bias toward the original source no matter how faithful the adaptation is. I still see some comments here and there that complain about FMA:Brotherhood when many people agree it was a great adaptation. There is also some legitimate issues with the medium. Like how during animation (fluid movement) there's a tendency in decline of not only the "quality" of movement but the art design as well. This is less common is higher budget shows but it's a common occurrence, I feel. |
TachiiMay 1, 2012 7:24 PM
May 1, 2012 7:28 PM
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Plot and concept. Plot and concept usually need a lot of time to explain and develop especially when you're using something from a manga which obviously was made to expand. Anime is forced to restrict it. They also have to make 'forced' endings and in some cases, pointless fillers. I try not to read manga before anime. Cause then I don't have 'expectations' from manga source to ruin the viewing. I never understood why people jump straight into the manga when they see a new anime out only to complain at the anime as it's airring... |
May 1, 2012 7:37 PM
#20
I never understood why people jump straight into the manga when they see a new anime out only to complain at the anime as it's airring... Because the general idea is that one should have read or be familiar with the source material since it's first and it's popularity/quality is why there is an anime adaptation. |
May 1, 2012 7:41 PM
#21
Colors, animation, voice acting and music >>>>>>>>>>>> black and white pictures |
May 1, 2012 7:43 PM
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May 1, 2012 7:54 PM
#23
Anime_Name said: I never understood why people jump straight into the manga when they see a new anime out only to complain at the anime as it's airring... Because the general idea is that one should have read or be familiar with the source material since it's first and it's popularity/quality is why there is an anime adaptation. Yeah but everyone knows source>adaptation. You're obviously going to be disappointed. |
May 1, 2012 8:02 PM
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Day2Dream said: Yeah but everyone knows source>adaptation. You're obviously going to be disappointed. I dunno if I said souce > adaption but if it were not for the source material there wouldn't be an adaptation. So getting interested in what should have been read first when the source gets popular enough for an anime is only natural. |
May 1, 2012 8:18 PM
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Day2Dream said: Anime_Name said: I never understood why people jump straight into the manga when they see a new anime out only to complain at the anime as it's airring... Because the general idea is that one should have read or be familiar with the source material since it's first and it's popularity/quality is why there is an anime adaptation. Yeah but everyone knows source>adaptation. You're obviously going to be disappointed. Not necessarily, what I was more pointing to was not really the fact that anime's don't follow everything the manga does and I don't expect them to, what I'm saying is, considering anime is in motion, has picture, sound, colors and all other treats for your senses and is released much later after the manga, why do anime publishers still manage to produce such undeserving adaptations and I can't stress this enough it's mostly the anime endings that really hit a nerve with me, when in my eyes they have all the tools they need to succeed. This thread is based mostly on my opinion ( everyone has 1 =P ) lets here about yours if your reading this =D . [Off-topic]Since the first post been reading Sun-Ken Rock for the last few hours and dam its good, its really good!! |
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May 2, 2012 2:09 AM
#26
if the anime is adapted from the manga, then people tend to like the manga better because it came first if the manga was adapted off the anime, then people tend to like the anime better because IT came first and so on... it's just because no matter what it's coming from, it always changes at least a little, people don't usually like that *me included =/* of course you can't put science behind ALL of it, because there are bound to be people who would like a manga better maybe because it is so obviously better than it's anime counterpart "there are some like that" or they just like to read instead of watch, and so on, and so on i'm personally not a big manga fan so in my opinion the animes are usually better than the manga =/ |
May 2, 2012 2:59 AM
#27
I also notice that when a manga is made to a anime series, they edit some scenes! Sometimes I kinda like manga because the story is complete. But I also like the anime series because it's really good watching the characters do the real thing. 50/50 |
May 2, 2012 11:57 AM
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zephyL said: I also notice that when a manga is made to a anime series, they edit some scenes! Sometimes I kinda like manga because the story is complete. But I also like the anime series because it's really good watching the characters do the real thing. 50/50 Yes, thank your for your reply, this is simple word is was missing in my first post, manga versions feels more "complete" than anime versions. |
Be4stMay 2, 2012 12:59 PM
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May 2, 2012 12:10 PM
#29
Well, I want to know if there was an anime series that never had a manga in the first place? Because what would happen if there are more of those then a manga turned into an anime series. |
And Zero said "Let there be rebellion for the power of the geass is hidden within all of you". |
May 2, 2012 6:25 PM
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Rosaria9 said: Well, I want to know if there was an anime series that never had a manga in the first place? Because what would happen if there are more of those then a manga turned into an anime series. Of course there was. There are 'original anime', i.e. those that were not based upon previously published material (be it manga, VN, whatever), just look at Madoka Magica, FLCL, Tiger & Bunny etc. Of course, more often than not, such anime end up spawning their manga counterpart, but nonetheless the anime preceded the manga. On the other hand, there are those, like Kaiba, Senkou no Night Raid, Tokyo Magnitude, some Ghibli movies, that never get adapted into manga. |
May 2, 2012 8:24 PM
#31
honestly, i'm more of a manga otaku.. well because, for ME, the story can be more more-detailed. But i'm also an anime otaku.. urgh. it's just hard you know. Some mangas are better if they were an anime and some anime are better if they were just mangas. AND, why don't they just make anime out of amazing mangas? Like faster than a kiss,barajou no kiss, and more? instead of doing another silly anime. |
May 2, 2012 9:18 PM
#32
1. Manga version is not always better its just the originals of any genre are usually better but there are pleny of acceptations. If anime version comes first then anime is better than the manga 2. The manga sometimes has too much details that you could never fit in an episode without the entire thing being uneventufl 3. Sometimes they cant air certain things on japanese tv so they cut it out 4. Artistic license to change a few things 5. If you read the manga before seeing the anime of course youre going to think its better because its what you were exposed to first. |
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May 3, 2012 2:19 AM
#33
It really depends on which serie it is. I loved the samurai deeper kyo manga but hated the anime it was really horrible. So i guess my main point in it is the fact that many anime's stray to much away from the original material, or if i don't like a voice actor of one of my favorite characters. Sometimes they also change a personality completely. Sometimes i don't like the manga if the characters look to much alike, like in vampire knight, i really couldn't tel the difference between those three blonde vampires because they looked to much alike, i could see the difference in the anime though. |
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May 3, 2012 5:46 AM
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jiroupuun said: honestly, i'm more of a manga otaku.. well because, for ME, the story can be more more-detailed. But i'm also an anime otaku.. urgh. it's just hard you know. Some mangas are better if they were an anime and some anime are better if they were just mangas. AND, why don't they just make anime out of amazing mangas? Like faster than a kiss,barajou no kiss, and more? instead of doing another silly anime. I wouldn't call Faster than a Kiss a good manga the story is so repetitive and hate the constant hugging and little development. sigh* not looking forward to the anime. |
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May 3, 2012 5:56 AM
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traed said: 1. Manga version is not always better its just the originals of any genre are usually better but there are pleny of acceptations. If anime version comes first then anime is better than the manga 2. The manga sometimes has too much details that you could never fit in an episode without the entire thing being uneventufl 3. Sometimes they cant air certain things on japanese tv so they cut it out 4. Artistic license to change a few things 5. If you read the manga before seeing the anime of course youre going to think its better because its what you were exposed to first. You must not have read I wrote on my previous posts, no one said all, I even highlighted it. and I also said it has nothing to do with which one came first ( to me and to many too ), and its not even logical to think that because one came first you will be biased about the adaptation , you should be able to recognize quality,if anything you love it even more since you can relive the manga experience with some tweaks here and there to make it even more memorable. Manga >> Anime should be like evolution, things should get better, not worse. |
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May 3, 2012 5:59 AM
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For3veR said: I finished watching Berserk and was EXTREMELY disappointed by the ending. Really? I thought it was really good. It stops at utter despair. I find that hard to dislike. |
May 3, 2012 6:02 AM
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I Asked This Question Couple Of Days Ago... Here Is My Topic, It Might Help You: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=427247 Basically, Story Line Is Better In Manga, But For Me Watching Anime Is Better. You Can Check The Whole Discussion In That Thread. |
May 3, 2012 6:03 AM
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phnsr said: For3veR said: I finished watching Berserk and was EXTREMELY disappointed by the ending. Really? I thought it was really good. It stops at utter despair. I find that hard to dislike. a 13 hour ad of the manga that had not very good Terms story progression in pure ltaeany Terms it had a Middle Only |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
May 3, 2012 6:04 AM
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Enjolras1830 said: phnsr said: For3veR said: I finished watching Berserk and was EXTREMELY disappointed by the ending. Really? I thought it was really good. It stops at utter despair. I find that hard to dislike. a 13 hour ad of the manga that had not very good Terms story progression in pure ltaeany Terms it had a Middle Only Blame Your Self For That :> |
May 3, 2012 6:06 AM
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Not quite sure why someone would start a thread assuming that everyone agrees with his point of view. |
May 3, 2012 6:09 AM
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May 3, 2012 6:10 AM
#42
For3veR said: havent been feeling well or sleeping much so i skim read. You must not have read I wrote on my previous posts, no one said all, I even highlighted it. and I also said it has nothing to do with which one came first ( to me and to many too ), and its not even logical to think that because one came first you will be biased about the adaptation , you should be able to recognize quality,if anything you love it even more since you can relive the manga experience with some tweaks here and there to make it even more memorable. Manga >> Anime should be like evolution, things should get better, not worse. I think some animes improve certain flaws the mangas have. The major problem usually is that an anime adaptation is made while the manga is being published and they have to ad filler to let the manga caitch up or they have to make their own orignal storyline |
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May 3, 2012 6:15 AM
#43
traed said: For3veR said: havent been feeling well or sleeping much so i skim read. You must not have read I wrote on my previous posts, no one said all, I even highlighted it. and I also said it has nothing to do with which one came first ( to me and to many too ), and its not even logical to think that because one came first you will be biased about the adaptation , you should be able to recognize quality,if anything you love it even more since you can relive the manga experience with some tweaks here and there to make it even more memorable. Manga >> Anime should be like evolution, things should get better, not worse. I think some animes improve certain flaws the mangas have. The major problem usually is that an anime adaptation is made while the manga is being published and they have to ad filler to let the manga caitch up or they have to make their own orignal storyline Although I Did Not Understand A Word... I Agree With You Girl. |
May 3, 2012 7:46 AM
#44
traed said: The major problem usually is that an anime adaptation is made while the manga is being published and they have to ad filler to let the manga caitch up or they have to make their own orignal storyline I disagree completely, espcially since you said the biggest problem is that anime adaptation r made while the manga is being published. Other than the more popular Naruto and bleach normally animes are released much later than the manga and not many do an anime adaptation when the manga is not far enough for the anime to resort to fillers. All indications are pointing to sloppy work by the anime studio and all the decision makers in creative/development team. |
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May 3, 2012 7:53 AM
#45
I mean its a problem just for the ones that have that happen not all of them. Im aware they all have different release dates |
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May 3, 2012 8:12 AM
#46
For3veR said: It's quite common imo for adaptations to be made even though they barely have enough source material.traed said: The major problem usually is that an anime adaptation is made while the manga is being published and they have to ad filler to let the manga caitch up or they have to make their own orignal storyline I disagree completely, espcially since you said the biggest problem is that anime adaptation r made while the manga is being published. Other than the more popular Naruto and bleach normally animes are released much later than the manga and not many do an anime adaptation when the manga is not far enough for the anime to resort to fillers. All indications are pointing to sloppy work by the anime studio and all the decision makers in creative/development team. Sekirei and Freezing both started with like only 50 chapters. That's enough for like a 12 episode introduction series, definitely not enough to finish or even get to the middle of a series. Same with Deadman Wonderland. This is only a few series I've picked up and I barely watch as much anime as most people here. But it's definitely not just Naruto and Bleach. And I'm pretty sure both of them started when the manga are well within 100+ chapters, probably. |
May 3, 2012 9:09 AM
#47
For3veR said: Day2Dream said: Anime_Name said: I never understood why people jump straight into the manga when they see a new anime out only to complain at the anime as it's airring... Because the general idea is that one should have read or be familiar with the source material since it's first and it's popularity/quality is why there is an anime adaptation. Yeah but everyone knows source>adaptation. You're obviously going to be disappointed. Not necessarily, what I was more pointing to was not really the fact that anime's don't follow everything the manga does and I don't expect them to, what I'm saying is, considering anime is in motion, has picture, sound, colors and all other treats for your senses and is released much later after the manga, why do anime publishers still manage to produce such undeserving adaptations and I can't stress this enough it's mostly the anime endings that really hit a nerve with me, when in my eyes they have all the tools they need to succeed. There such thing called a budget for that. Then it comes down to tricks and skills the studio has. Motion, picture and sound is all subconsciously being imagined by many of us when we read the manga anyway so it's not really a shocker when we see it happen in anime unless a huge budget is spent into it. I explained the ending issue earlier. It's cause the 'source' is still on going and since manga was made to 'expand', they can't really fill the plot holes the manga created. If it's popular they need to create an ending where a sequel can be made too etc. End of the day it's all about profit. |
May 3, 2012 4:14 PM
#48
Day2Dream said: End of the day it's all about profit. Profit is best made by producing quality products, make a good anime and you don't even need to spend much on marketing since word to mouth ads and users recommendations from fan to fan will spread quicker than any AD, a budget still does not explain the lack of quality, I am a teen but I think I have a good understanding of business, if you know your gonna make a crappy product why bother invest your time, money and effort for little to no profit (lets be honest, with all the internet sites streaming anime and fan subs and all that, dvd sales, tv rights and licenses just ain't what they used to be, capital wise).. where is the pride of this artists ?? I would rather my work not be seen at all than release something I can't be proud of. |
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May 3, 2012 7:44 PM
#49
if you know your gonna make a crappy product why bother invest your time, money and effort for little to no profit Two things: People can't tell the future, so generally nobody knows they are making a crap product before it is actually made and the quality of products doesn't say anything about how profitable a product can become. Artistic pride is great for independents and starving artists that don't have a lot of responsibilities but professional manga-kas tend to have to not only plan for their own futures they also have to take care of the many people who work for them. Plus getting an anime version for one of your stories can feel great even if it's not 100% true to the original because everyone knows concessions have to be made when changing media. |
May 4, 2012 3:50 AM
#50
Manga is always better. Except on a few notes. Anime however can never copy or animate every single box of a manga, due to copyright reasons or budget reasons. Great Mangas like Kenichi, which was animated (Which I enjoyed) was cut short, because it was not as popular as an anime. then there are anime based on manga that are just poorly done. But then you have shows like One Piece, Where the emotions are captured so perfectly, and the music matches. It depends, But I watch Anime more. So anime wins for me. But I am getting into manga at work. So, so far its even. Though there are manga I want animated now. |
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