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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- wtf was that? What a lame episode. It just screwed the whole series. Dont you guys think??? |
| The very very end should have been better but the overall episode was pretty cool. So the teacher ended up being a cyborg, The kid ended up being half alien half earthling and Mathew ended up being a supercomputer girl that resembles Mahoro. So the only question I have is, was the alien race just robots with souls that had the ability to have and make kids? Thats kind of interesting. |
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| What teacher? Shikijo-sensei just never aged in the anime (she did in the manga). I don't really remember the anime well, so I'll talk about the manga :P Matthew was a super-computer created to be a sort of "god" to the Saint people. Her creator was also named Mahoro (looked like her too). Matthew made most of the decisions regarding the lives of Saint, making it an ideal world to live in. However, she had "discarded the motive of self-preservation" in creating the ideal world until it was too late. I'm not quite sure what's meant by this. Perhaps they just didn't have the will (or perhaps no longer had the knowledge?) to reproduce. Whatever the case, Matthew sent out Saint to look for other human races so that Saint could live on. Anyway, I prefer the manga over the anime. I would have loved to have the manga ending animated rather than what we actually got. Oh well. I feel like watching it again though... |
| Manga is better than Anime? Whoa thats good to know. I was kind of worryed about that |
Asrialys said: What teacher? Shikijo-sensei just never aged in the anime (she did in the manga). I don't really remember the anime well, so I'll talk about the manga :P Matthew was a super-computer created to be a sort of "god" to the Saint people. Her creator was also named Mahoro (looked like her too). Matthew made most of the decisions regarding the lives of Saint, making it an ideal world to live in. However, she had "discarded the motive of self-preservation" in creating the ideal world until it was too late. I'm not quite sure what's meant by this. Perhaps they just didn't have the will (or perhaps no longer had the knowledge?) to reproduce. Whatever the case, Matthew sent out Saint to look for other human races so that Saint could live on. Anyway, I prefer the manga over the anime. I would have loved to have the manga ending animated rather than what we actually got. Oh well. I feel like watching it again though... So wait, Saint members can't reproduce? How was Suguru Misato born then? His mom was the result of a human and a saint having a kid right (as stated in the anime)? I guess I'll have to go start reading the manga now too. |
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| I didn't say they couldn't, I said that they weren't motivated. I guess you could say that Saint's former society was incredibly peaceful. So much so that they merely just lived out their lives. My only guess is that sex or the act of reproducing just didn't sit as a priority. |
| so I guess earthlings will "motivate" them lol. |
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| well for beings who live a long time or forever do not need to reproduce. well abit late but i just watched this one. i liked it. |
| the ending is so Confusing! but still I don wanna read the manga... I guess I should be satisfied with that creepy ending. |
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| one of the most fucked up and retarded anime endings ever :p |
| it was a so-so ending to an otherwise good anime. i have to wonder why mahoro waited 20 years to recaporilize herself tho :/ if she really cared about suguru then she would have done it immediately and been waiting for him at that city down the beach. i would also have liked a more in-depth epilogue, but thats a pretty common problem with epilogues :( |
Kotori said: one of the most fucked up and retarded anime endings ever :p Finally someone who shares the same opinion as me |
| Overall I liked this anime. I was pretty unsatisfied with the ending though. Could Have been 8/10 but I'll give it a 7/10 because of the ending. What was different between the manga ending and the anime ending? |
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| OMFG... That was what I was thinking when the episode and the series was over... What the hell where they thinking... |
| interesting. still prefer the manga ending, though. |
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| this really sucked, 7/10/ the ending was really bad imo. or more like a letdown, was the manga ending any different? |
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| I'm really having mixed feelings about the ending, i kinda liked it.. But it was also kinda a let down.. Imo, 13 should of been the ending, and ep 14 could of been stretched into an OVA or something. I really didn't think it was all that bad, just a bit.. weird. |
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| This was the worst ending to an anime I've ever seen. I can't believe I got so desperate to watch the second season, since I couldnt find it online, that I actually bought it. F&$k! |
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| I know a lot of people give Mahoromatic's ending a bad rap, and I guess it can seem like a let down, but in another light, it can also be seen as really beautiful. Perhaps the conclusion of 13, more so than 14, but we see a story a sacrifice and rebirth in this, and I think, in the end, redemption, as they return to the time of the springtime sun. The endings of episode 13 and 14 really touched me, most of the stuff before the conclusion of the episode (i.e. seeing Shikijo-sensei again) was merely...meh. I don't think a story, especially one like this demands a tidy, happy, reasonable ending. Even from season one, we were reminded every episode that Mahoro was going to die, so it's reasonable to have expected something out of the ordinary. I thought it was in line with the series. There are serious mixed feelings about this episode, I know, but I think one could also take it with a certain grain of salt, considering it within the context of the nature of the series as a whole. |
| Weird ending, but I wouldn't say crap, it was just different, Mahoromatic was always a two faced anime, and the second face came out this episode, Suguru really became messed up but this is my figuring, he will thanks to the nostalgia of Mahoro(did she really come back, I will say no, it was just a dream) go back to Earth and reconnect. |
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Kotori said: almost as bad as the neon genesis movie ending. so messed uppp!!!one of the most fucked up and retarded anime endings ever :p |
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| This last epoisode was so creepy and fucked up... The ral ending for me is at the 13 ep... Titles and sad music and the minute off silence in that moment.. |
Spaidy_ said: This last epoisode was so creepy and fucked up... The ral ending for me is at the 13 ep... Titles and sad music and the minute off silence in that moment.. The real ending for me was the manga's :P |
| Awful ending for such a nice serie... I agree with you all that says ep 13 should be the real ending. |
| i was really dissipointed with the ending |
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| yes i would have feel better being sad and end with 13 then a...what can i say...a half happy? ending? |
| -_- rly retarded ending... if Suguru would have his normal personality still .. then it would be beter.. but this was rly fckedup |
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| Wait, why didn't the teacher age? How did a branch scar suguru's face? Mahoro magically phased back to life? Oh and episode 13: why didn't Mahoro use the airplane's landing gear?! Confusing, but I really liked this episode (Why??) p.s. Dirty thoughts are bad mm kay? |
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| So they have Maholo is back... except her soul..... mmmm... |
| Think more about the events of the episode though, as well as the ending of the previous episode. He never really understood why Suguru acted like he did. Well, as I told him, he never really hated them completely. You will notice he had the broach Mahoro always had on her uniform. Even after 20 years, he still had it with him. That means he has always had a soft spot reserved for her. He mainly only had a hatered of the Management androids because a management android was the reason why Mahoro had to sacrifice her life to protect Suguru which caused him to feel abaondoned and hate the thing that made his love dissapear, a Management Android. Regarding the Saints, they never really forgot how to procreate, but just weren't motivated because of their extremely long lifespan. Hence how Suguru's grandfater scored with Suguru's Grandmother. As for Mahoro coming back, durring the conversation Suguru's Grandmother had with Matthew. They were discussing the future of the Human race in Space, as well as a new emotion the Saints had come in contact with: Nostaligia. Becasue of that Nostalgia, which was introduced to the Saint's Collective Conciousness by none other than Suguru, they decided to recreate Mahoro as best as they could from the memories of Suguru's time with Mahoro for him and place her on the same Moon that he was on to fulfill his desire to see Mahoro again and to ease that sense of Nostalgia so it wouldn't plauge them (not sure if that would be the right way to word it) on their journeys wandering aimlessly through the universe.. Personally, after seeing all the episodes of Mahoro online, I kind of want to see what happened exactly between episode 13 and 14. What happened exactly in those 20 years between Mahoro's death and rebirth? I think it would bring more of a sense of completeness to the story. @Malware: Not enough cleaaring for a runway, best way to land was skid across the tress to soften the impact when they did crash to the ground after running out of fuel. |
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Diablofan said: @Malware: Not enough cleaaring for a runway, best way to land was skid across the tress to soften the impact when they did crash to the ground after running out of fuel. I remember the plane hovering outside of the school or something, meaning it can take off and land vertically as well. I think they were just too cheap to draw some landing gear. |
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| It was an interesting ending. They reason Suguru's Grandmother had the baby was probably because she was curious and in their perspective all the time they spend was not that much because of their life span. After having the baby she dipped, leaving Suguru's grandfather and the rest of the family to keep with her real purpose. I agree with Diabolofan on the rebirth of Mahoro. It wasn't really to help Suguru, it was just to get reed of the nostalgia sentiment they had. They never explain why Mathew looked exactly like Mahoro though. its always good to watch something different from time to time, to bad the whole beginning was terrible. |
| huh? |
| With a character like Mahoro, one of the greatest characters in anime history, they ruined the anime with one of the most messed up, f***ed up endings in anime history. |
| i didn't really understand.. but as long as they ended up together!!!! |
| i liked this ending. it made sense to me. They ended up together and they can even realize some of those "Ecchi thoughts that are bad" now when he's adult :P My understandings > How did she come back to life ? They made copy of her body and inserted her consciousness which was for some reason part of Mathew (multi)consciousness (was no explained - sadly) Why did Suguru become bad ass android face hater? Every time someone became close to him he/she died, leaving him alone and screwing up his hearth more and more. Also Mahoro's "death" was Managements fault (revenge comes on mind) and his own inability to protect himself (frustration). Another thing is that coming back to EMPTY house was not best idea (he would get reminded of her everywhere 24/7) As for recap at the end It was just remembering what happened in past to make it nostalgic or touchy. Why did he turn into kid again? it was symbolic way to express that their (his) feelings have not changed. They were just hidden deep inside of his hearth where he was still the good old soft Suguru protected by new bad ass Suguru "armour" showing on outside. |
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| I guess I'll rate this same as 5/10. Character development was slightly better but I felt almost nothing for the finale compared to the previous episode. Oh well.. At least some of the OST were better than the previous. |
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| Horrible ending to an overall masterpiece of an anime. I wouldn't have had a problem if Mahoro died and STAYED dead. That's what tragic dramas are about. I absolutely hate the bullshit endings that revive the main characters for no fucking reason and spew eternal love shit all over the place. It's unrealistic and anticlimactic. Mahoro's sacrifice in episode 13 was romantic. The whole build-up to the ending was spectacular, they share their last tender moment looking at the sea, they kiss, confess etc. before she self-destructs to protect him. It gives it a bittersweet tone which is what this anime was about from the start. We all knew she was going to be dead sooner or later anyway and the counter was there to remind us of that. What episode 14 has done is completely and I mean completely shredded all the build-up to the ending (and in fact ruined the ending itself too). What.the fuck.was that. I simply can't accept it. I'll pretend the anime and the series as a whole ends with episode 13. This is also a warning to anyone still watching this. DO NOT watch the 14th episode, unless you want to see something so abhorrent it makes you want to drive a garlic smeared stake through your heart. That said, I did enjoy Suguru's badassery and new look. At least for once he wasn't a goddamn crying pussy. |
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| Episode was interesting but the ending was crap. |
| weird fucking ending ??? why did they have to time skipped would have been better if they didn't great anime overall 8/10 for me dam that last episode |
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