| I remember, when I was a kid, I think I had a view of "old games = bad" due to my classmates, but then after having a fuckton of contact with millennials on the internet in a time where every gaming article said that the best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII, I began to fight with my classmates over this and think of them as "idiots" for not having the same view as the internet people I had contact with and preferring Skyrim. So I also remember that, at the very start of getting into anime, I would feel a bit offended if someone recommended me an anime that was either old or unpopular (And "popularity" had to do with what I had contact with in Brazilian FB groups and pages, so I had never even heard of Cowboy Bebop and probably only saw Shinseiki Evangelion being mentioned once or twice). Needless to say, I no longer think like that, don't understand why I used to think like that or what made me change (Probably noticed that it was a dumb view to have). I remembered all that over reading someone saying that recommending old/unpopular stuff to certain people offended them. I do not like offending people by accident, so are there any specific types of anime in which people might get offended if I recommend them? |
| I think that has more to do with the person than the anime. |
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thewiru said: I remember, when I was a kid, I think I had a view of "old games = bad" due to my classmates, but then after having a fuckton of contact with millennials on the internet in a time where every gaming article said that the best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII, I began to fight with my classmates over this and think of them as "idiots" for not having the same view as the internet people I had contact with and preferring Skyrim. So I also remember that, at the very start of getting into anime, I would feel a bit offended if someone recommended me an anime that was either old or unpopular (And "popularity" had to do with what I had contact with in Brazilian FB groups and pages, so I had never even heard of Cowboy Bebop and probably only saw Shinseiki Evangelion being mentioned once or twice). Needless to say, I no longer think like that, don't understand why I used to think like that or what made me change (Probably noticed that it was a dumb view to have). I remembered all that over reading someone saying that recommending old/unpopular stuff to certain people offended them. I do not like offending people by accident, so are there any specific types of anime in which people might get offended if I recommend them? Recommending shit like "Cowboy Bebop" isn’t throwing a fucking ego brick. It’s handing someone a sandwich. If they take one bite and scream “ARE YOU CALLING ME FUCKING POOR, YOU UNCULTURED FUCK??”, that’s not a sandwich problem... that’s a guy who showed up hungry, paranoid, wearing a tin hat, with a survival kit, and a wind up ham radio with a compass on the top of that shit. lol What actually is happening... Someone hears a recommendation and their brain immediately melts down, likely thinking... “What this actually is saying about me and my shitty tastes”. lol Slide 1: Am I fucking behind? Slide 2: Is this person smarter than me? Slide 3: Is my shitty tastes about to be demoted to economy class? Slide 4: Have I just been listing to, too much fucking "Art Bell"? lol That reaction has nothing to do with whether the anime is fucking old, unpopular, arthouse, mainstream, or a just scribble on a cave wall dawn by monks depicting stick figures in a circle-jerk. It’s pure status anxiety wearing some shit like a Crunchyroll hoodie. lol The “offensive anime recommendation” idea, is like saying certain books are dangerous because some people can feel judged when handed a book titled, "How to get your rocks off, without pre-ejaculating all over your lady friend". That’s not really a genre issue... that’s someone mistaking a library card for a fucking report card. lol And the supposed hierarchy? That thing’s been dead for fucking years. Anime fandom doesn’t have a ladder... it’s a freak show flea market at 3 a.m. One table is selling shit like "Bakuen Campus Guardress", another table is just handing out cards with a torrent link for every episode of Demon Slayer like giving out free handjobs. There is even someone just sitting alone in a corner, arguing to themself, that some shitty PS1 game from 1998 changed their fucking life... And there is nobody actually in charge of the fucking place. Even have a couple getting busy, having unprotected sex on a kitchen prep table, in the back of the food court, because that's just how much supervision there actually fucking is. lol If offense happens, it’s not because the anime was old or obscure... it’s because the recommendation likely feels like a fucking correction instead of a suggestion. Same way being offered a wine can feel nice… unless the person sniffs your shit first and then gags, because the garbage you have been drinking just smells like ass. lol So yeah... there’s no such thing as “dangerous” anime... only bad timing, bad fucking delivery, and people whose brains melt and translate... “you might like this shit"... into “open your fucking textbook, class... because your taste are ass with shit still poking out of it”, As if they are trying to school you on shit, for a class lesson you never even fucking signed up for in the 1st place. lol |
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| if i recommend someone low rated anime they may get mad. |
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| I don’t think there really are. “Offended” probably isn’t the right word, more like annoyed. And nine times out of ten it has nothing to do with the anime itself, just how it’s recommended. If it’s hyped to the moon, treated like the pinnacle of the medium, or pushed as something you have to watch, people tend to push back. Troll recommendations can also rub people the wrong way. Stuff like Boku no Pico, School Days, or Mars of Destruction aren’t suggested in good faith most of the time. They’re meant to shock, bait, or get a reaction. It’s not offensive, it’s just annoying and unserious. |
ImpalaDec 15, 12:19 AM
| "Are there types of anime in which people will get offended if you recommend them to them?" People are so touchy nowadays that they can get offended even for literally anything...so maybe one shouldn't care that much. Also they never get the idea that older anime can be made with different social sensibilities (rather lack of such) in mind. That's like complaining that Tom Sawyer uses the "n" word. The thing I can get a bit offended by is if I specifically asked something, like for example to not recommending me melodrama and get 7 out of 10 melodrama shows...tho that still can be blamed on miscommunication, not outright trolling. "best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII" Try to play those without some of the modifications added later and your millage can vary. |
| I am offended when people recommend me moe blob anime |
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| Sure. Recommend a Covid fan Kodomo no Jikan or Yosuga no Sora, and watch their reaction. |
| One guy here on MAL asked for recommendations about romance anime that weren't your average cookie cutter school romance and got mad when I suggested Kuzu no Honkai (he was a prude), he even sent me a DM telling me to delete my comment (which says a lot about how dumb he must be, since he thought that someone else's reply in his thread would tarnish his reputation). I didn't reply, I just deleted my comment and I blocked him before I could lose my temper, which is a remarkable feat since I wouldn't even block the most obnoxious MAL users of all time. |
NirinboDec 15, 7:20 AM
| Some people don't want ecchi recommendations, that's the most common I've seen so far I guess. |
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| @thewiru It just sounds like you're easily influenced. Recommending shows to people who aren't actively searching them out never works. If they can't "connect" with other normies over it, then a majority of people won't even want to bother. Most of the time it's about "being in the know" rather than experiencing the work itself. Nirinbo said: One guy here on MAL asked for recommendations about romance anime that weren't your average cookie cutter school romance and got mad when I suggested Kuzu no Honkai (he was a prude) LMAO yeah, I'd be pissed as well if someone recommended me that travesty in good faith. |
| I didn't expect this to be a thewiru post reading the title, but I opened it and kaboom, wall of text for such a simple question. Anyway, some people get offended if you recommend them ecchi anime, speaking from experience irl. |
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Gentropy said: LMAO yeah, I'd be pissed as well if someone recommended me that travesty in good faith. I'm ok with different opinions as long as it isn't a matter of "I'm a prude and I don't want anything beyond elementary school-tier handholding in my romance anime with characters that aren't elementary schoolers". I'm even ok with vague arguments like "it bored me to death", but since you called it a travesty there must something more that didn't sit right with you and I'd be curious to know what (unless the above applies to you). |
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Gentropy said:
LMAO yeah, I'd be pissed as well if someone recommended me that travesty in good faith.
LMAO yeah, I'd be pissed as well if someone recommended me that travesty in good faith.
I'm ok with different opinions as long as it isn't a matter of "I'm a prude and I don't want anything beyond elementary school-tier handholding in my romance anime with characters that aren't elementary schoolers".
I'm even ok with vague arguments like "it bored me to death", but since you called it a travesty there must something more that didn't sit right with you and I'd be curious to know what (unless the above applies to you).
| @Nirinbo It's in the title: Scum's Wish. Every character in it is unlikable, sociopathic scum. The theming doesn't matter when you despise every single character in the story, especially when said theming just boils down to "people suck and do awful things." What an amazing character study. It's the equivalent of liking Game of Thrones because you don't like Lord of the Rings, or liking The Boys because you don't like superhero stories. It's like when people complain about the "will they, won't they" antics in a WSJ romcom and how the series don't usually continue after a girl is "chosen." Maybe it's because series where the MC & feMC get together in episode 5 are boring as hell? I don't think a romcom is more "mature" or "better written" just because high schoolers (or even middle schoolers) happen to fuck in it just like they do in real life. In that case just watch Euphoria or some other shitty TV drama. "Hey man, Superman is soooo unrealistic. No one would be good and selfless if they had his powers. Wouldn't it be more realistic if he was, like, an evil asshole?" "Yeah, and what if you had super speed, bro? Wouldn't it be awesome if you could, like, fuck your girlfriend using it? That'd be pretty sick." "Aragorn is a good man, but like, what does his tax policy look like? Being a good man doesn't make you a good ruler." I think shows like Horimiya and His and Her Circumstances are better examples of high school series with more nuanced romantic relationships. Their characters are intimate, but the focus isn't necessarily on that or their hormonal degeneracy. I don't like spineless, wishy-washy MCs either. But series where the main couple get together early on and have little to no struggles, or ones where every character is just fucking everything in sight—like in Scum's Wish or [i]Nana—aren't any more compelling or well-written. Nirinbo said: (unless the above applies to you) That's also probably half the reason lol. The other half of course being the cast of subhumans. |
| I would get really annoyed if someone recommended some hentai, erogoro, loli or shota for me. Now, as for the release date or popularity, I don't care, only with how cursed the content can be. I was once recommended Mushoku Tensei when it was being released, and the worst part is that the person actually liked it... That being said, I don't accept recommendations from almost anyone these days. :) |
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I suspect many get offended when you recommend them ecchi.
Pokémon Red / Blue is better than these.
thewiru said:
best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII
best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII
Pokémon Red / Blue is better than these.
| @Battleheart Next time, try casting with better bait, idiot. |
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I would get really annoyed if someone recommended some hentai, erogoro, loli or shota for me.
Now, as for the release date or popularity, I don't care, only with how cursed the content can be.
I was once recommended Mushoku Tensei when it was being released, and the worst part is that the person actually liked it... That being said, I don't accept recommendations from almost anyone these days. :)
Now, as for the release date or popularity, I don't care, only with how cursed the content can be.
I was once recommended Mushoku Tensei when it was being released, and the worst part is that the person actually liked it... That being said, I don't accept recommendations from almost anyone these days. :)
| @_juuj He obviously didn't take into account the fact that you're a woman. Should've recommended Beastars or something kek. |
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@Gentropy Someone got pissy, no counterargument so...
Also just because you disagree with me and name call me doesn't mean I was baiting, you just can't handle being on the internet.
EDIT; looked at your profile, tells me everything I need to know, you are just a troll.
Also just because you disagree with me and name call me doesn't mean I was baiting, you just can't handle being on the internet.
EDIT; looked at your profile, tells me everything I need to know, you are just a troll.
| @Battleheart You want a counterargument as to why the classic JRPGs of the 90s are better than shitty-ass, neurodevelopmental-stimming Pokemon? LMAO why would I waste my time doing that? Looks like someone can't handle being on the internet. Pokemon sucks. Digimon is better. |
| If someone recommends something I might not like, I honestly wouldn’t be offended. For them, that anime might be perfect, and besides, you don’t have to watch everything someone recommends. |
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@Gentropy Someone got pissy, no counterargument so...
Also just because you disagree with me and name call me doesn't mean I was baiting, you just can't handle being on the internet.
EDIT; looked at your profile, tells me everything I need to know, you are just a troll.
Also just because you disagree with me and name call me doesn't mean I was baiting, you just can't handle being on the internet.
EDIT; looked at your profile, tells me everything I need to know, you are just a troll.
Battleheart said: EDIT; looked at your profile, tells me everything I need to know, you are just a troll. Just because you disagree with me and name-call me doesn't mean I'm a troll. Don't dish it out if you can't take it. |
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I suspect many get offended when you recommend them ecchi.
Pokémon Red / Blue is better than these.
thewiru said:
best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII
best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII
Pokémon Red / Blue is better than these.
| @Battleheart Red and Blue are the worst Pokemon games out of the ones I've played, and I played them back when they first came out! |
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@Battleheart You want a counterargument as to why the classic JRPGs of the 90s are better than shitty-ass, neurodevelopmental-stimming Pokemon? LMAO why would I waste my time doing that?
Looks like someone can't handle being on the internet. Pokemon sucks. Digimon is better.
Looks like someone can't handle being on the internet. Pokemon sucks. Digimon is better.
Gentropy said: Pokemon sucks. Digimon is better. The Digimon game I played was as bad as Pokemon Red if not worse. I'm not trying another. |
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Gentropy said:
Pokemon sucks. Digimon is better.
Pokemon sucks. Digimon is better.
The Digimon game I played was as bad as Pokemon Red if not worse. I'm not trying another.
| @Lucifrost Ok, yeah, I admit, I wasn't serious about the Digimon bit. I don't care for either. The same goes for Yu-Gi-Oh, Bakugan, and all the other similar franchises. SMT is fine, though. |
Gentropy said: Every character in it is unlikable, sociopathic scum. That's a valid argument. I don't equate good/bad person with good/bad character, but everyone's taste is different so that's it. Gentropy said: It's the equivalent of liking Game of Thrones because you don't like Lord of the Rings, or liking The Boys because you don't like superhero stories. For the record, for me LoTR >>> GoT (it really fell apart once there was no more source material left to adapt, despite the many changes). I'm not a fan of superheroes but I did like the first few seasons of The Boys, then it slowly started getting worse and dragged out. Gentropy said: But series where the main couple get together early on and have little to no struggles, or ones where every character is just fucking everything in sight—like in Scum's Wish or [i]Nana—aren't any more compelling or well-written. I'd have agreed with you that sex doesn't automatically make a romance good if you had mentioned very mediocre stuff like Kimi ga Nozomu Eien or Kono Kaisha ni Suki na Hito ga Imasu, but since you mentioned Nana as an example of "not good writing"... Gentropy said: That's also probably half the reason lol. ... I'm starting to believe that this is more than half the reason, way more. Kare Kano and Horimiya have sex but it's all between the main couple, so unless you tell me at least two anime or live action movies/tv series with casual sex that you liked, I can't help but think that casual sex is the real reason you hate those anime and everything else you wrote is just reinforcing your biased opinion (of course you don't have to waste your time convincing a complete stranger on the internet, we can end the discussion here if you have none). |
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Gentropy said:
Every character in it is unlikable, sociopathic scum.
Every character in it is unlikable, sociopathic scum.
That's a valid argument. I don't equate good/bad person with good/bad character, but everyone's taste is different so that's it.
Gentropy said:
It's the equivalent of liking Game of Thrones because you don't like Lord of the Rings, or liking The Boys because you don't like superhero stories.
It's the equivalent of liking Game of Thrones because you don't like Lord of the Rings, or liking The Boys because you don't like superhero stories.
For the record, for me LoTR >>> GoT (it really fell apart once there was no more source material left to adapt, despite the many changes). I'm not a fan of superheroes but I did like the first few seasons of The Boys, then it slowly started getting worse and dragged out.
Gentropy said:
But series where the main couple get together early on and have little to no struggles, or ones where every character is just fucking everything in sight—like in Scum's Wish or [i]Nana—aren't any more compelling or well-written.
But series where the main couple get together early on and have little to no struggles, or ones where every character is just fucking everything in sight—like in Scum's Wish or [i]Nana—aren't any more compelling or well-written.
I'd have agreed with you that sex doesn't automatically make a romance good if you had mentioned very mediocre stuff like Kimi ga Nozomu Eien or Kono Kaisha ni Suki na Hito ga Imasu, but since you mentioned Nana as an example of "not good writing"...
Gentropy said:
That's also probably half the reason lol.
That's also probably half the reason lol.
... I'm starting to believe that this is more than half the reason, way more. Kare Kano and Horimiya have sex but it's all between the main couple, so unless you tell me at least two anime or live action movies/tv series with casual sex that you liked, I can't help but think that casual sex is the real reason you hate those anime and everything else you wrote is just reinforcing your biased opinion (of course you don't have to waste your time convincing a complete stranger on the internet, we can end the discussion here if you have none).
Nirinbo said: I'd have agreed with you that sex doesn't automatically make a romance good if you had mentioned very mediocre stuff like Kimi ga Nozomu Eien or Kono Kaisha ni Suki na Hito ga Imasu, but since you mentioned Nana as an example of "not good writing"... Kimi ga Nozomu Eien has better writing than Nana. |
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Gentropy said:
Every character in it is unlikable, sociopathic scum.
Every character in it is unlikable, sociopathic scum.
That's a valid argument. I don't equate good/bad person with good/bad character, but everyone's taste is different so that's it.
Gentropy said:
It's the equivalent of liking Game of Thrones because you don't like Lord of the Rings, or liking The Boys because you don't like superhero stories.
It's the equivalent of liking Game of Thrones because you don't like Lord of the Rings, or liking The Boys because you don't like superhero stories.
For the record, for me LoTR >>> GoT (it really fell apart once there was no more source material left to adapt, despite the many changes). I'm not a fan of superheroes but I did like the first few seasons of The Boys, then it slowly started getting worse and dragged out.
Gentropy said:
But series where the main couple get together early on and have little to no struggles, or ones where every character is just fucking everything in sight—like in Scum's Wish or [i]Nana—aren't any more compelling or well-written.
But series where the main couple get together early on and have little to no struggles, or ones where every character is just fucking everything in sight—like in Scum's Wish or [i]Nana—aren't any more compelling or well-written.
I'd have agreed with you that sex doesn't automatically make a romance good if you had mentioned very mediocre stuff like Kimi ga Nozomu Eien or Kono Kaisha ni Suki na Hito ga Imasu, but since you mentioned Nana as an example of "not good writing"...
Gentropy said:
That's also probably half the reason lol.
That's also probably half the reason lol.
... I'm starting to believe that this is more than half the reason, way more. Kare Kano and Horimiya have sex but it's all between the main couple, so unless you tell me at least two anime or live action movies/tv series with casual sex that you liked, I can't help but think that casual sex is the real reason you hate those anime and everything else you wrote is just reinforcing your biased opinion (of course you don't have to waste your time convincing a complete stranger on the internet, we can end the discussion here if you have none).
Nirinbo said: I'm starting to believe that this is more than half the reason, way more. Kare Kano and Horimiya have sex but it's all between the main couple, so unless you tell me at least two anime or live action movies/tv series with casual sex that you liked, I can't help but think that casual sex is the real reason you hate those anime and everything else you wrote is just reinforcing your biased opinion (of course you don't have to waste your time convincing a complete stranger on the internet, we can end the discussion here if you have none). @Nirinbo Yep. You're 100% correct. I am biased towards shows that showcase casual sex and promiscuity without condemning them. I see nothing wrong with admitting that. It's revolting to me on a base level. The same could be said for women that hate works that cater to incels, or normie-minded fans that come across something involving incest or age-gap relationships (with minors, usually.) In the same way an atheist couldn't stomach watching Little House on the Prairie, a religious person couldn't stomach watching Sex and the City. There are some works that are just incompatible with certain people. I don't even like the two romcoms I mentioned. They were just the ones I thought were most fitting for the conversation. All fornication is immoral, but in the context of these shows, it's at least somewhat tolerable. |
| Maybe https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/28/Yaoi |
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| Some people might get offended if you recommend Hyperdimension Neptunia to them. |
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Lucifrost said: Kimi ga Nozomu Eien has better writing than Nana Any particular reason to say this or it's just a general feeling? I watched a few episodes of the anime and it didn't seem very interesting, but I'm pretty sure that the VN is better. Gentropy said: Yep. You're 100% correct. I am biased towards shows that showcase casual sex and promiscuity without condemning them. I see nothing wrong with admitting that. It's ok, I'm not here to change your mind. I think it's just important to know that when you say "LMAO this anime is a travesty", you're saying it out of principle, regardless of how good or bad the anime might be. |
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Lucifrost said:
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien has better writing than Nana
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien has better writing than Nana
Any particular reason to say this or it's just a general feeling? I watched a few episodes of the anime and it didn't seem very interesting, but I'm pretty sure that the VN is better.
Gentropy said:
Yep. You're 100% correct. I am biased towards shows that showcase casual sex and promiscuity without condemning them. I see nothing wrong with admitting that.
Yep. You're 100% correct. I am biased towards shows that showcase casual sex and promiscuity without condemning them. I see nothing wrong with admitting that.
It's ok, I'm not here to change your mind. I think it's just important to know that when you say "LMAO this anime is a travesty", you're saying it out of principle, regardless of how good or bad the anime might be.
Nirinbo said: Any particular reason to say this or it's just a general feeling? I suppose it's nothing more than a general feeling. |
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| isekai is as widely despised as it is beloved harem anime anything with a lot of fanservice Some folks don't want to be recommended series with very, very high episode numbers, though I doubt they'd be outright offended - more likely dismissive. beyond that, I want to say "use common sense" - if it's a fringe or controversial interest and you haven't been given any indication that the person you'd be recommending it to is interested in that sort of thing, don't bother recommending it - particularly if it's a genre that's often recommended in bad faith. honestly there is nothing that is guaranteed not to evoke hostility from SOMEONE on MAL. this site is, as far as i can tell, full of hostile weirdos and i am one of them. Use individual judgment. |
thewiru said: Spoken like someone who's always on the internet 24/7. I began to fight with my classmates over this and think of them as "idiots" for not having the same view as the internet people I had contact with and preferring Skyrim. |
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Lucifrost said: I suppose it's nothing more than a general feeling. Uhm, ok. I might retry Kimi ga Nozomu Eien in the future (I already retried many of my dropped anime and I did manage to complete most of them the second time), but I'm pretty sure that preferring it over Nana would always be a very unpopular opinion among any subcategory of anime fans you could think of. Nothing wrong with that of course, everyone with enough experience like us is going to agree with the majority in some cases and disagree in some others. An example of random subcategory of anime fans is the small sample size made by my MAL friends. Among these 178 MAL users, only 4 of them completed both Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and Nana but none of them rated the former higher; there's actually a sixth person who dropped Nana (without rating it) and completed Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, but he rated it below his own average so not even this case is going in its favor. |
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Lucifrost said:
I suppose it's nothing more than a general feeling.
I suppose it's nothing more than a general feeling.
Uhm, ok. I might retry Kimi ga Nozomu Eien in the future (I already retried many of my dropped anime and I did manage to complete most of them the second time), but I'm pretty sure that preferring it over Nana would always be a very unpopular opinion among any subcategory of anime fans you could think of. Nothing wrong with that of course, everyone with enough experience like us is going to agree with the majority in some cases and disagree in some others.
An example of random subcategory of anime fans is the small sample size made by my MAL friends. Among these 178 MAL users, only 4 of them completed both Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and Nana but none of them rated the former higher; there's actually a sixth person who dropped Nana (without rating it) and completed Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, but he rated it below his own average so not even this case is going in its favor.
Nirinbo said: I'm pretty sure that preferring it over Nana would always be a very unpopular opinion among any subcategory of anime fans you could think of. You think so? I'd imagine Nana is preferred by women and Kiminozo by men, since those are the demographics the anime are aimed at. |
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Nirinbo said:
I'm pretty sure that preferring it over Nana would always be a very unpopular opinion among any subcategory of anime fans you could think of.
I'm pretty sure that preferring it over Nana would always be a very unpopular opinion among any subcategory of anime fans you could think of.
You think so? I'd imagine Nana is preferred by women and Kiminozo by men, since those are the demographics the anime are aimed at.
| @Lucifrost I'd expect that Nana is rated higher by women than by men and the opposite for Kiminozo, but I'd also expect that both men and women rate Nana higher than Kiminozo, especially considering the huge difference between their MAL scores (most MAL users are male). Regarding my small sample size, the 4 (not 5, I miscounted) who completed both anime: two are confirmed male, two are very likely male since there are mostly shounen and seinen among their favorites. |
| It varies from person to person obviously, so there's no real answer to that question. It's more a problem of "are there people who will get offended over a recommended show" and the answer to THAT question is yes. But it might be a different show every time. I personally never get offended by anime. My world-view and the narratives in media I watch don't have to be ideologically/morally aligned for me to enjoy them. |
| If someone gets offended, it could be the person and how it is being presented. I personally am not bothered of what is being recommended. People generally will recommend what they like, and what is recommended may not be the preference of the other person. |
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@Lucifrost I'd expect that Nana is rated higher by women than by men and the opposite for Kiminozo, but I'd also expect that both men and women rate Nana higher than Kiminozo, especially considering the huge difference between their MAL scores (most MAL users are male).
Regarding my small sample size, the 4 (not 5, I miscounted) who completed both anime: two are confirmed male, two are very likely male since there are mostly shounen and seinen among their favorites.
Regarding my small sample size, the 4 (not 5, I miscounted) who completed both anime: two are confirmed male, two are very likely male since there are mostly shounen and seinen among their favorites.
| @Nirinbo Nana's score is boosted by the 1/5 rule. With 47 episodes rather than 14, one must watch three times as many in order to rate it. I expect most viewers who dislike Nana drop it long before that, because its strengths and weaknesses are obvious from the start. |
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@Nirinbo
Nana's score is boosted by the 1/5 rule. With 47 episodes rather than 14, one must watch three times as many in order to rate it. I expect most viewers who dislike Nana drop it long before that, because its strengths and weaknesses are obvious from the start.
Nana's score is boosted by the 1/5 rule. With 47 episodes rather than 14, one must watch three times as many in order to rate it. I expect most viewers who dislike Nana drop it long before that, because its strengths and weaknesses are obvious from the start.
| @Lucifrost Not nearly enough to explain the difference between 8.57 and 7.16. Yeah, Nana would be rated lower if we could ignore the 1/5 rule and assign a proxy low score for every user who dropped it and left it unrated, but the same could be said about Kiminozo: the dropped/completed ratio is not too different (0.085 Nana, 0.06 Kiminozo). Regarding my small sample size: Nana has 2 dropped and 40 completed, Kiminozo 2 dropped and 13 completed. |
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I am offended when people recommend me moe blob anime
| @Catalano what exactly is wrong with such content btw? |
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@Lucifrost Not nearly enough to explain the difference between 8.57 and 7.16. Yeah, Nana would be rated lower if we could ignore the 1/5 rule and assign a proxy low score for every user who dropped it and left it unrated, but the same could be said about Kiminozo: the dropped/completed ratio is not too different (0.085 Nana, 0.06 Kiminozo).
Regarding my small sample size: Nana has 2 dropped and 40 completed, Kiminozo 2 dropped and 13 completed.
Regarding my small sample size: Nana has 2 dropped and 40 completed, Kiminozo 2 dropped and 13 completed.
| @Nirinbo Perhaps you are right. Perhaps it would be smarter to compare Kiminozo to the shorter Paradise Kiss. Paradise Kiss still has a higher score than Kiminozo, even though it is not praised as much as Nana. In spite of your anecdotes, I continue to believe that demographics explain the discrepancy. Most fans of Yazawa's anime are fans of chick flicks, and audiences outside this group are unlikely to watch even a single episode. While Nana is a strong work with somewhat wider appeal, I cannot believe that any male would choose Paradise Kiss over Kiminozo. |
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@Catalano what exactly is wrong with such content btw?
| @DesuMaiden there is nothing wrong with it, I just hate it, I find it disgusting. |
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I suspect many get offended when you recommend them ecchi.
Pokémon Red / Blue is better than these.
thewiru said:
best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII
best games ever made were Chrono Trigger, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII
Pokémon Red / Blue is better than these.
| @Battleheart Who has an IQ actually low enough to say something this asinine. |
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@Nirinbo
Perhaps you are right. Perhaps it would be smarter to compare Kiminozo to the shorter Paradise Kiss. Paradise Kiss still has a higher score than Kiminozo, even though it is not praised as much as Nana. In spite of your anecdotes, I continue to believe that demographics explain the discrepancy. Most fans of Yazawa's anime are fans of chick flicks, and audiences outside this group are unlikely to watch even a single episode. While Nana is a strong work with somewhat wider appeal, I cannot believe that any male would choose Paradise Kiss over Kiminozo.
Perhaps you are right. Perhaps it would be smarter to compare Kiminozo to the shorter Paradise Kiss. Paradise Kiss still has a higher score than Kiminozo, even though it is not praised as much as Nana. In spite of your anecdotes, I continue to believe that demographics explain the discrepancy. Most fans of Yazawa's anime are fans of chick flicks, and audiences outside this group are unlikely to watch even a single episode. While Nana is a strong work with somewhat wider appeal, I cannot believe that any male would choose Paradise Kiss over Kiminozo.
| @Lucifrost Only 3 of my MAL friends (all confirmed male) completed and rated both Paradise Kiss and Kiminozo. Unlike Nana, in this case there is one who rated Kiminozo higher, the other two rated Paradise Kiss higher. Of course the sample size is even smaller here, so it can't be 100% reliable. When it comes to love polygons, I think that both men and women can enjoy works that target either gender; on the other hand, harems and reverse harems are the ones that are way more likely to appeal to only their intended target audience. |
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Nirinbo said:
I'm starting to believe that this is more than half the reason, way more. Kare Kano and Horimiya have sex but it's all between the main couple, so unless you tell me at least two anime or live action movies/tv series with casual sex that you liked, I can't help but think that casual sex is the real reason you hate those anime and everything else you wrote is just reinforcing your biased opinion (of course you don't have to waste your time convincing a complete stranger on the internet, we can end the discussion here if you have none).
I'm starting to believe that this is more than half the reason, way more. Kare Kano and Horimiya have sex but it's all between the main couple, so unless you tell me at least two anime or live action movies/tv series with casual sex that you liked, I can't help but think that casual sex is the real reason you hate those anime and everything else you wrote is just reinforcing your biased opinion (of course you don't have to waste your time convincing a complete stranger on the internet, we can end the discussion here if you have none).
@Nirinbo Yep. You're 100% correct. I am biased towards shows that showcase casual sex and promiscuity without condemning them. I see nothing wrong with admitting that. It's revolting to me on a base level. The same could be said for women that hate works that cater to incels, or normie-minded fans that come across something involving incest or age-gap relationships (with minors, usually.)
In the same way an atheist couldn't stomach watching Little House on the Prairie, a religious person couldn't stomach watching Sex and the City. There are some works that are just incompatible with certain people.
I don't even like the two romcoms I mentioned. They were just the ones I thought were most fitting for the conversation. All fornication is immoral, but in the context of these shows, it's at least somewhat tolerable.
Gentropy said: In the same way an atheist couldn't stomach watching Little House on the Prairie, a religious person couldn't stomach watching Sex and the City. There are some works that are just incompatible with certain people. Weird. I'm an atheist, I think Little house on the Prairie is boring, but not an excruciating experience that makes me hate the world. I enjoy some religious art, and don't feel any kind of hatred towards folks who don't want to fuck before marriage. I'm not sure trying to rationalize your stance like you did really works. Most people seem comfortable comfronting their views to the real world, and with the fact others might not think like them. |
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