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Aug 14, 2023 6:56 PM
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I have been watching anime for severall years but i never understood why anime characters look like they are of western ethnicity and not asian. Like, pretty much all of the highschoolers in anime have the looks of europeans students. What makes it even stranger to me is that anime is mainly targetting japanese teenagers so wouldn't this make it harder for them to relate to the characters? Genuinely curious about it. 
Edit: i'm forced to precise it because some obtuse individuals are calling me out for my blatant "racism". No, i'm not racist so no need to jump me. This is a legitimate question.
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My guess is they want to make the characters look more attractive and unique instead of going with the standard asiatic facial features and dark brown eyes/black hair that pretty much all asians have. Japan seems to have an infatuation with Western culture so that probably plays a role. Also, I don’t think you need to look like characters to be able to relate to them.
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The reason is because that's what you are. Japanese people are Japanese so they view the characters as Japanese, if you're white you'll generally view them as white. They're intentionally non-distinct because there's no real reason to put specific racial features on them. The small noses are actually one Asian facial feature anime characters have that white people generally don't, but people are happy to overlook that.
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If you're asking "why the bigger eyes?" then answer is to make them more expressive. Same reason other animation uses huge eyes. If you're asking about the skin color , I'm not entirely sure. I think they prefer the whiter skin culturally, but I might be pulling that out my ass.
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zombie_pegasus said:
The reason is because that's what you are. Japanese people are Japanese so they view the characters as Japanese, if you're white you'll generally view them as white. They're intentionally non-distinct because there's no real reason to put specific racial features on them. The small noses are actually one Asian facial feature anime characters have that white people generally don't, but people are happy to overlook that.

Okay i get that but you can't tell me that Ichigo or Asuna look like asian teenagers even though they are supposed to be Japanese.
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FanofAction said:
If you're asking "why the bigger eyes?" then answer is to make them more expressive. Same reason other animation uses huge eyes. If you're asking about the skin color , I'm not entirely sure. I think they prefer the whiter skin culturally, but I might be pulling that out my ass.

I think i kind of figured out why they got big eyes but yeah... i don't understand the skin color. I'm not saying it's bad or anything but i find it strange.
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FanofAction said:
If you're asking "why the bigger eyes?" then answer is to make them more expressive. Same reason other animation uses huge eyes. If you're asking about the skin color , I'm not entirely sure. I think they prefer the whiter skin culturally, but I might be pulling that out my ass.
It is a cultural thing, having lighter skin is a symbol of beauty and status throughout history in Asia, that’s why they use a lot of skin lightening products.
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FanofAction said:
If you're asking "why the bigger eyes?" then answer is to make them more expressive. Same reason other animation uses huge eyes. If you're asking about the skin color , I'm not entirely sure. I think they prefer the whiter skin culturally, but I might be pulling that out my ass.
It is a cultural thing, having lighter skin is a symbol of beauty and status throughout history in Asia, that’s why they use a lot of skin lightening products.
Yeah, I vaguely remembered learning about that. Just not all details behind it.
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Truman threatened to nuke more of Japan if they didn't do it.
Go read Berserk and One Piece they're the best thing ever
Aug 15, 2023 4:41 AM
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Yeap.. Exactly this.. He beat me to it but that's what I wanted to say

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Truman threatened to nuke more of Japan if they didn't do it.
 

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Japanese stole the anime eye style from the French.
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Rocknblock said:
FanofAction said:
If you're asking "why the bigger eyes?" then answer is to make them more expressive. Same reason other animation uses huge eyes. If you're asking about the skin color , I'm not entirely sure. I think they prefer the whiter skin culturally, but I might be pulling that out my ass.

I think i kind of figured out why they got big eyes but yeah... i don't understand the skin color. I'm not saying it's bad or anything but i find it strange.
What else do you think their skin color is though? Yellow? I don't think anybody has 'yellow' skin color. 
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the Japanese have a long-held Inferiority Complex, in regards to their physical appearances
ever since they widely learned what Europeans were generally like...
and all of this fomented long ago; well before the eldest of us in this thread here were even born...
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for big eyes of anime characters its influence by Mickey Mouse and Betty Boop thats why Astroboy have big eyes and it became a trend ever since

as for the hair the japanese have fetish for blonde hairs for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyaru
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It's not that deep.
At least it's kinda true for the anime that aren't drawn in a more realistic way.
It's called "Kindchenschema" and should appear cute due their big eyes.
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Dannyr22 said:
Rocknblock said:

I think i kind of figured out why they got big eyes but yeah... i don't understand the skin color. I'm not saying it's bad or anything but i find it strange.
What else do you think their skin color is though? Yellow? I don't think anybody has 'yellow' skin color. 


https://myanimelist.net/character/65643/Koro-sensei
 

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Japanese stole the anime eye style from the French.


I heard in a documentary that French stole the hope diamond from India..

So even steven...Lethieves james
 

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at any rate; would any of us honestly wish for Anime Girls to actually look more ethnically Asian?!?


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Because Japanese people perceive Caucasian traits as a standard of beauty.
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They don't tho.
They mostly look Japanese, specially on shows like School Days. 
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I also have been watching anime for several years and never once did it occur to me that
Rocknblock said:
pretty much all of the highschoolers in anime have the looks of europeans students
Perhaps it's the uniforms that throws me off, or maybe the fact that they have japanese names. Idk it could also be that the "foreign student who speaks a somewhat broken japanese" is quite common, which implies that the rest of the cast isn't comprised of foreigners.
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Because Asians are very similar to each other and it is hard to distinguish them.
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I don't believe anime characters look like real people of any race in general. They are highly stylised in most cases, meaning they only look like themselves. Anime with "realistic" artstyles tend to have a higher percentage of characters who aren't necessarily Caucasian.


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Because Japanese people are obsessed with whiteness and tend to associate it with beauty and purity. Funnily enough, in Japan white supremacy actually exists and is quite widepsread, since a lot of people try to look as Caucasian as possible, not to mention extremely high popularity of western culture/history in general.
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I'm not sure if purple and blue or green hair is specifically European or American in your eyes but I just see colorful characters akin to candy marketted to children.
Aug 15, 2023 11:59 AM
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Because the only people with more than one kind of hair/eye colour are Europeans. Purple/blue hair are black haired cope. Basically anyone with non black hair. brown eyes is non Japanese but most have Japanese names.

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The reason is because that's what you are. Japanese people are Japanese so they view the characters as Japanese, if you're white you'll generally view them as white. They're intentionally non-distinct because there's no real reason to put specific racial features on them. The small noses are actually one Asian facial feature anime characters have that white people generally don't, but people are happy to overlook that.
Yes bro the yellow haired anime girl with non brown eyes in your pfp is 100% Asian!


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They dont actually. Its just your perception. Sure it has some western drawing style influence the manga style of drawing, Disney influence is obvious for an example and the actual reason for anime characters big eyes. But in fact most anime and manga especially of average or little audience have characters who in fact have japanese traits. Try contrast such pictures of manga and images of actual westerners vs actual japanese that they are closer to the average japanese body is then obvious after this experience. Yes they are often light skinned but as a matter of fact many japanese are ligther skinned than many westerners who are considered white. Now yes people in actual japan are more often less light in skin color than most anime characters but that out of a japanese and common in east asia ideal not a want to be white, in east asia light skin historically was seen as a desirable beauty norm because it was associated with the wealthy people who didnt work as peasants, the majority of poor peasant of course having darker skins because they were working under the sun. And this beauty ideal stay in modern east asia hence light skin of japanese manga characters but as their name hint they are the large majority of the time japaneese and meant to be so in everyway. Now big manga franchise get characters with westernized traits or who lives in a western inspired universe and context more often as a selling strategie to get better selled abroad. I guess its answer your enigma.
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They straight up look asian
Small nose, slender features, child features.
Why do many anime characters look like this Sabine Wren and not like Agent Kallus.
Asian
https://www.google.com/search?q=sabine+wren&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiE2b3Rt9-AAxXMA1kFHYnPATIQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=sabine+wren&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDFAAWABgAGgAcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBAKoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1n&sclient=img&ei=ytbbZITMDsyH5NoPiZ-HkAM&bih=1001&biw=1920&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA707CA707
vs white
https://www.google.com/search?q=agent+kallus&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwic1f2ot9-AAxV2CFkFHR_DDl0Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=agent+kallus&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIHCAAQigUQQzIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDoECCMQJzoICAAQgAQQsQM6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOgQIABADUPApWMc1YMU2aABwAHgAgAGAAYgBugiSAQQxMS4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=ddbbZNzGEvaQ5NoPn4a76AU&bih=1001&biw=1920&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA707CA707#imgrc=OUr4NXLT1Uln5M
feel the difference.

Also it is easy for an asian girl to die her hair blond and look like asuna than a white girl would. Anyone in a cosplay convention can confirm. Not to mention whites are more likely to be overweight. There is a reason why so many crave the east asian look
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I don't remember where I read about this, but I heard that it is considered a convention and it is assumed that in the conventional "real life", most of the characters we see look like the most ordinary Japanese.
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RobertBobert said:
I don't remember where I read about this, but I heard that it is considered a convention and it is assumed that in the conventional "real life", most of the characters we see look like the most ordinary Japanese.
Is that so? If that is true i'd be very interested to read more about it.
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SkyfallStar said:
Japanese stole the anime eye style from the French.
I am myself french so i wish it would be the case.
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It's not that deep.
At least it's kinda true for the anime that aren't drawn in a more realistic way.
It's called "Kindchenschema" and should appear cute due their big eyes.

Is this a troll answer? This seems interesting but i can't tell if you are joking or not.
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Rocknblock said:
RobertBobert said:
I don't remember where I read about this, but I heard that it is considered a convention and it is assumed that in the conventional "real life", most of the characters we see look like the most ordinary Japanese.
Is that so? If that is true i'd be very interested to read more about it.
Well, you can compare it to the rise of the brown hair characters like in Railgun in the late 00s, when the trend for brown hair dye among young girls started in Japan. The anime showed this as a natural tone, but it was obviously implied that it was just a fashion image. And now, more and more anime have begun to copy modern trends for dyed strands in bright colors or multi-colored hair like E Girl.
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I’ve thought about this a lot and I’ve decided that it’s partially to create visual diversity and for each character to have their own distinct characteristics. As it’s been mentioned already: there isn’t much visual variety in everyone having black hair and brown eyes. Sure, people having blonde or blue hair and red or blue eyes isn’t characteristic of Japanese culture, but you’re literally watching a cartoon so it’s gets a pass from me. I’ll suspend my disbelief because…. Cartoons.

Some animes has its characters go as far as to explain that their hair has been dyed or that they wear contacts. It’s pretty interesting.
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Rocknblock said:
Risa92 said:


It's not that deep.
At least it's kinda true for the anime that aren't drawn in a more realistic way.
It's called "Kindchenschema" and should appear cute due their big eyes.

Is this a troll answer? This seems interesting but i can't tell if you are joking or not.


Half-joking.
Lot of anime characters should evoke the same emotions that looking at cute animals and babies / toddlers evoke in us.
(That's why I'm so irritated when anime tries to draw cutesy characters "sexy", because I wouldn't want to see a sexy kitten either lol.)
I wouldn't say they are directly based on cats, but share very similar physical traits.

Also Tezuka was a fan of the Disney style and they also drew their characters with big eyes. He took influence from this and influenced manga and anime history himself.
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at any rate; would any of us honestly wish for Anime Girls to actually look more ethnically Asian?!?


This and other live action kills the bug lover. These actors are fine in their normal TV shows but anime live adaptations show why Asia is infamous for plastic surgery and how dying hair and wearing contact lens will not change bone structure of facial features.


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I’ve thought about this a lot and I’ve decided that it’s partially to create visual diversity and for each character to have their own distinct characteristics. As it’s been mentioned already: there isn’t much visual variety in everyone having black hair and brown eyes. Sure, people having blonde or blue hair and red or blue eyes isn’t characteristic of Japanese culture, but you’re literally watching a cartoon so it’s gets a pass from me. I’ll suspend my disbelief because…. Cartoons.

Some animes has its characters go as far as to explain that their hair has been dyed or that they wear contacts. It’s pretty interesting.


Well it never refrained me from enjoying an anime. And yes, some anime provide answers as to why characters have blond/brown hairs and blue/green eyes while the majority don't. For exemple, in Clannad Ova we learn that mc's best friend (sry don't remember all the names, it's been a very long time) dyes his hairs to keep them blond.
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Risa92 said:
Rocknblock said:

Is this a troll answer? This seems interesting but i can't tell if you are joking or not.


Half-joking.
Lot of anime characters should evoke the same emotions that looking at cute animals and babies / toddlers evoke in us.
(That's why I'm so irritated when anime tries to draw cutesy characters "sexy", because I wouldn't want to see a sexy kitten either lol.)
I wouldn't say they are directly based on cats, but share very similar physical traits.

Also Tezuka was a fan of the Disney style and they also drew their characters with big eyes. He took influence from this and influenced manga and anime history himself.

Okay this is gonna be my headcannon as of now.
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Risa92 said:
(That's why I'm so irritated when anime tries to draw cutesy characters "sexy", because I wouldn't want to see a sexy kitten either lol.)

You are missing out on a life changing experience.
Here have some cartoon :
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They draw characters to be sexy, and that just often coincides with certain caucasian features.
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JaniSIr said:
Risa92 said:
(That's why I'm so irritated when anime tries to draw cutesy characters "sexy", because I wouldn't want to see a sexy kitten either lol.)

You are missing out on a life changing experience.
Here have some cartoon :

Nah if that floats your boat, more power to you. xD
Hm tbh... the purple one looks nice.


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Risa92 said:


Half-joking.
Lot of anime characters should evoke the same emotions that looking at cute animals and babies / toddlers evoke in us.
(That's why I'm so irritated when anime tries to draw cutesy characters "sexy", because I wouldn't want to see a sexy kitten either lol.)
I wouldn't say they are directly based on cats, but share very similar physical traits.

Also Tezuka was a fan of the Disney style and they also drew their characters with big eyes. He took influence from this and influenced manga and anime history himself.

Okay this is gonna be my headcannon as of now.


I can't unsee that either anymore.

Have more of them, that's I think a reupload of the full post:

https://qurarara.quora.com/https-www-quora-com-Why-in-Japanese-anime-do-none-of-the-characters-look-Japanese-answer-Hantani-Sadahiko
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Yeah That's an interesting topic. I remember watching Patlabor and noticing that the closest the series had to an asiatic character was Kanuka Clancy, and she was american.

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Because all white people look like Yugi, obviously.
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No they generally don't look like real people like at all, if you think they do then you probably need to touch grass I think, also what about them is western? Colorful hair? Big eyes? Well those are universally seen as generally more beautiful even by asains it's not like people like those who look like themselves.
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JaniSIr said:
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(That's why I'm so irritated when anime tries to draw cutesy characters "sexy", because I wouldn't want to see a sexy kitten either lol.)

You are missing out on a life changing experience.
Here have some cartoon :


Lmao wtf, that was actually pretty hype
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Many characters from older anime do look Japanese, but a more modern, typical light-skinned moe design, isn't going to be as ethnically distinct. 
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
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No they generally don't look like real people like at all, if you think they do then you probably need to touch grass I think, also what about them is western? Colorful hair? Big eyes? Well those are universally seen as generally more beautiful even by asains it's not like people like those who look like themselves.

No need to resort to insults. You can read this thread and see that it stayed civil and polite until your answer. As for why i think they look like westerners, a lot of them do have objectively non japanese features (not talking about blue hairs or horns). You can't watch Bleach and tell me that Ichigo, Orihime or Yoruichi (well she is a cat but still) for exemple look like the average japanese. I'm not talking about anime that are explicitely not set in our world (naruto, bleach) or where it makes sense that people come from varied countries (Black Lagoon).
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Risa92 said:
Nah if that floats your boat, more power to you. xD
Hm tbh... the purple one looks nice.

The rat lady with the black hair is the best girl btw.
BirdyTheMighty said:
Lmao wtf, that was actually pretty hype

Of course it's hype, it's a certified classic. One of the few Hungarian movies that are actually good.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0179955/
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JaniSIr said:
Risa92 said:
Nah if that floats your boat, more power to you. xD
Hm tbh... the purple one looks nice.

The rat lady with the black hair is the best girl btw.
BirdyTheMighty said:
Lmao wtf, that was actually pretty hype

Of course it's hype, it's a certified classic. One of the few Hungarian movies that are actually good.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0179955/


Sick, thanks mate. Been lookin for something new, now Im gonna go watch it
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The longer I watch anime the less they look like to "Europeans" [Germanic/Scandinavian/Slavic/Roman/etc. people look different from each other, even within the Slavic people the Southern will look different than Eastern one.] Shounen and Shoujo targets are primarily for Teenagers/Young audience [but in reality I'd say the older audience likes it more or at least that's what I see through youtube/Pyrkon conventions] when we speak about demographics [excluding here Kids shows], you've forgotten there are also Josei and Seinen anime.

- Ah btw majority if not all of highschoolers in anime have 0 facial hairs, alot of highschoolers including myself in past have already a full grown beard and moustache + smokin cigarettes + drinking alcohol + other stuff the anime characters are too pure and saint to be compared to Europe.
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