Edens Zero
Carticus1 said: I don’t understand the argument, maybe I’m missing something but isn’t eden zero the alternative reality of fairytail? Like they had a few episodes where natsu and the gang met themselves in that reality You are not missing anything. Just a bunch of Fairy Tail fanclub members unable to handle there are people who don't like this obvious copy/paste mess, same art style makes sense tho, same author. Pretty normal thing these fanclubs, they will never accept there are people with different opinion than them. |
CoreX_CZApr 1, 2021 4:08 AM
Carticus1 said: I don’t understand the argument, maybe I’m missing something but isn’t eden zero the alternative reality of fairytail? Like they had a few episodes where natsu and the gang met themselves in that reality Not an alternative reality, like not at all. Just copycat characters. CoreX_CZ said: Carticus1 said: I don’t understand the argument, maybe I’m missing something but isn’t eden zero the alternative reality of fairytail? Like they had a few episodes where natsu and the gang met themselves in that reality You are not missing anything. Just a bunch of Fairy Tail fanclub members unable to handle there are people who don't like this obvious copy/paste mess, same art style makes sense tho, same author. Pretty normal thing these fanclubs, they will never accept there are people with different opinion than them. You misunderstood, he didn't understand why the look-alike characters are used as an argument against the show. He wasn't talking about Hik_aro's argument. |
KeenanAntonetti said: Yeah but he did the same thing with Fairy Tail and Rave Master where he put the mascot character of Rave the little snowman named Plue in Fairy Tail with the exact same name to pay homage to his previous work.Ereeeeeeee said: Well he likes that artstyle, and happy has kinda become a mascot, just like plue since rave master. And the other character that we see in the anime and manga is maschima making homage to his other series, kinda like an easter egg. that could be true, but he still just reused a character design without even changing the name |
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CoreX_CZ said: Carticus1 said: I don’t understand the argument, maybe I’m missing something but isn’t eden zero the alternative reality of fairytail? Like they had a few episodes where natsu and the gang met themselves in that reality You are not missing anything. Just a bunch of Fairy Tail fanclub members unable to handle there are people who don't like this obvious copy/paste mess, same art style makes sense tho, same author. Pretty normal thing these fanclubs, they will never accept there are people with different opinion than them. Carticus1 said: No those are easter eggs. Edens Zero is not related to Fairy Tail.I don’t understand the argument, maybe I’m missing something but isn’t eden zero the alternative reality of fairytail? Like they had a few episodes where natsu and the gang met themselves in that reality As for reusing character designs, what's wrong with that? Same actors perform in different movies in different roles. That doesn't bother anyone but this does? |
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| They aren't related, but Fairy Tail fans get to have Easter Eggs at least. These come in the form of Happy, the artstyle, and Elsie Crimson's name being an obvious play on Erza Scarlet. |
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| I don't like Fairy Tail and probably won't try this one out but i agree with your opinion, judging by character design only is stupid, if that's their only reason then they should boycott Arslan Senki and Silver Spoon too then since both have same character design with FMAB because same mangaka.. Or older key visual anime like Air, Kanon, Clannad, etc.. Or Oreimo with Eromanga Sensei.. |
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Pyth79 said: Carticus1 said: I don’t understand the argument, maybe I’m missing something but isn’t eden zero the alternative reality of fairytail? Like they had a few episodes where natsu and the gang met themselves in that reality Not an alternative reality, like not at all. Just copycat characters. CoreX_CZ said: You are not missing anything. Just a bunch of Fairy Tail fanclub members unable to handle there are people who don't like this obvious copy/paste mess, same art style makes sense tho, same author. Pretty normal thing these fanclubs, they will never accept there are people with different opinion than them. You misunderstood, he didn't understand why the look-alike characters are used as an argument against the show. He wasn't talking about Hik_aro's argument. The author of Fairy tail isn't the first one to plagiarize his own work you know. |
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| Yeah exactly, I can't wait to see the adventures of not Erza, not Gray, not Lucy and not Wendy. This is gonna be a blast. Same actors perform in different movies in different roles. That doesn't bother anyone but this does? Possibly because it is a tiny by more difficult for a real life person to change his face and body like a shapeshifter. Unless he's a reptilian. |
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| Welp, Mashima is no strange to recycle characters from his older mangas in newer works (he took Plue and Sieghart from Rave Master and brought them to Fairy Tail, this last one recycled as Jellal). Thing is, when Mashima went from Rave Master to FT his artstyle was very different so, by example, if you compare Sieghart from Rave with Jellal nowadays, they don't look so similar, but since Edens Zero now has the more defined artstyle of FT, the recycled characters are more obvious, like that Space Erza. About Shiki and Rebecca looking like Natsu and Lucy, the same, it's just Mashima artstyle, though from what I watched from the first two episodes, they do indeed share some similarities with Natsu and Lucy personality wise. While it can be very distracting, it's no big deal to me. |
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| Dude, you should just admit that Fairy Tail is a worse Rave Master, and this is just worse Fairy Tail. In fact this manga is so mediocre that mashima just went back to feari teeru after this, since that manga was already popular and most people can´t let go of their characters. |
GandalfEr said: Rave master is better and underrated, fairy tail is popular but too cheesy /friendship crap, and edens zero? Is better than fairy tail. Edens zero is dark, no power of friendship, ( well shiki mentioning friend many times is a running gag. ) So stop acting like you know it coz i read the three i mention. There´s nothing dark about Edens Zero, it´s still a shonen and one made by Mashima. Even Rave (which is clearly his best work) is still lighthearted, even if it gets more dramatic by the end. |
CoreX_CZ said: Carticus1 said: I don’t understand the argument, maybe I’m missing something but isn’t eden zero the alternative reality of fairytail? Like they had a few episodes where natsu and the gang met themselves in that reality You are not missing anything. Just a bunch of Fairy Tail fanclub members unable to handle there are people who don't like this obvious copy/paste mess, same art style makes sense tho, same author. Pretty normal thing these fanclubs, they will never accept there are people with different opinion than them. Everything you just said is pure stupidity |
| Happy being used again is nothing more than recasting Actors in TV shows and movies. |
| ikr? at this point people are just nitpicking everything |
wonhallyu17Apr 3, 2021 10:40 AM
Scordolo said: Pyth79 said: Not an alternative reality, like not at all. Just copycat characters. You misunderstood, he didn't understand why the look-alike characters are used as an argument against the show. He wasn't talking about Hik_aro's argument. The author of Fairy tail isn't the first one to plagiarize his own work you know. 1. My comment was as neutral as possible, don't know why you're quoting me to say that. 2. Saying something has already been done so it's not bad is stupid. Normal plagiarism has already been done too, are you gonna tell me it's fine to steal someone else's work |
sciphers said: Yall have really confused having an artstyle and straight up copy pasting the same characters with different names. Look at Jojo's for example, there's a certain artstyle and yeah the artstyle PROGRESSES during the years, but the characters have diverse designs and rarely look the exact same. Even the stands. Mashima's artstyle not only has stayed the same during the years but he's so fucking lazy he's reusing his old desings. He did it in Rave Master, he did it in Fairy Tail and he's doing it again. And he's never gonna change it so keep crying about it. |
| Well yeah I agree with you. But happy is being used again. But without wings. |
lmao because there's nothing much to argue with people like you when your arguments are literally copy paste in itself to previous mashima's work. |
All you need to know is people have Hate boner for Hiro Mashima's works. Hiro basically insulted their intelligence with his friendship, artstyle and continuously getting anime adaptation. |
wonhallyu17 said: lmao because there's nothing much to argue with people like you when your arguments are literally copy paste in itself to previous mashima's work. Technically it's coherent, the work is so copy pasted that even copy pasting arguments works like a charm |
Waves02 said: Same mangaka so it's not surprising. But is the story the same, that is the question. From what I read of the manga, yes and no. The setting is different, but it mostly follows nekketsu tropes without innovation, and the only things "different" from tropes are things the author already did in Fairy Tail. |
Waves02 said: Pyth79 said: From what I read of the manga, yes and no. The setting is different, but it mostly follows nekketsu tropes without innovation, and the only things "different" from tropes are things the author already did in Fairy Tail. That's not very entertaining especially considering I didn't care much about Fairy Tail. I couldn't finish it and was getting bored after like 75 episodes or less. /shrugs Then you'll most likely not like it, I think |
Waves02 said: Is that Allen on your avatar? Is D-Gray Man worth it? I've known of that one since more than 10 years ago but I always postpone things, anime watching included and I also took a 6 years break from it. Yep it's Allen, and personally I love D.Gray Man, I definitely recommend it. Even the filler I feel is pretty well done, even though I still think the manga is better. The openings kick ass too |
Pyth79 said: Waves02 said: Same mangaka so it's not surprising. But is the story the same, that is the question. From what I read of the manga, yes and no. The setting is different, but it mostly follows nekketsu tropes without innovation, and the only things "different" from tropes are things the author already did in Fairy Tail. 100% False. You definitely did not pay attention when reading Edens Zero. None of the arc or story telling in Edens Zero is the same as or near the same as Fairy Tail. Writing a Space Galaxy Universe SciFi Story is not gonna be written the same as Magic Kingdom Demon Dragon Fantasy story. |
DJK1NG_Gaming said: Pyth79 said: From what I read of the manga, yes and no. The setting is different, but it mostly follows nekketsu tropes without innovation, and the only things "different" from tropes are things the author already did in Fairy Tail. 100% False. You definitely did not pay attention when reading Edens Zero. None of the arc or story telling in Edens Zero is the same as or near the same as Fairy Tail. Writing a Space Galaxy Universe SciFi Story is not gonna be written the same as Magic Kingdom Demon Dragon Fantasy story. You can like it if you want, but as a whole, it is written the same way as Fairy Tail, the scenario follows the same tropes, the only change is the universe. I wasn't surprised even once while reading, and I'm no medium, I just knew what happened in Fairy Tail, and guessed what would happen based on that, that's all |
this is gonna be extremely opinionated but I think its fair to drop a show after one episode if it didn't intrigue you but I think if your gonna rate a show after 1 episode your critic shouldn't be taken seriously I get that time is precious and noone wants to watch a show they don't like but then just leave that to the people that want to instead of doing it yourself and giving a horrible take on a show after 1 episode |
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GandalfEr said: Hik_aro said: To the people who are giving this horrible ratings cuz of the artstyle, pls stop bandwagoning the hate train and attempting to be an anime critic because you're not. PS: To those that geniunely don't like watching the show, thats alright. I respect ur opinion. I just want to clear this up because i hate seeing this stupid arguement about the character designs everywhere. First and foremost, its Hiromashimas artstyle. Its blatantly obvious his designs will be similar. It isn't plagiarism. Even if it is, where were yall at when Moh psycho 100 dropped? Mob is literally saitama with hair?. How about To love ru and Black cat? The MCs of both those shows are literally the same in terms of physical appearance minus the hair colour. I hope this helps u come to understand that its mashimas artstyle cuz i have literally seen 20 comments about this in the past 5 minutes. Agree! Did they hate the fate franchise for having many saber look alike?? NO! They hate because it's MASHIMA'S WORK! EVERY mashima done equals friendship shit for them! Even though edens zero has better story line and every shiki throw the word "friend" , they will assume it is friendship power! Lul. Stupid mudefacker! the choice of reusing character designs is something that is criticized throughout multiple series, not just in works done by Mashima. The outcry is probably a little louder in Edens zero, though, bc its a lot more apparent (and rave isn't known enough for ppl to go against fairy tail for that). yes, people get mad at takeuchi for continuously making saberfaces, but at this point it's done more as joke than anything else, so it's kinda charming (okita, MHX, etc..). Plus, nobody criticized Last Encore for Nero bc they were too busy criticizing it for being straight up bad. |
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