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Luffy, not really a misunderstanding but not many people know this. Oda said in an SBS(basically a Q&A) that Luffy doesn't kill his enemies because he would rather see them suffer for their actions rather than getting a peaceful death, pretty dark

May 4, 2019 6:34 AM

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KreatorX said:
Pretty sure there's plenty of such instances.

The most common ones I see are Shinji from Evangelion, Subaru from Re-zero, Okabe and Mayuri from Steins;Gate, just to name a few.

how is Subaru misunderstood, sorry I try not to read on the forums too much, I'd get too pissed off

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May 4, 2019 6:38 AM

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After watching Violet Evergarden and scrolling through forums about it on multiple websites, I noticed that a large portion of its audience think that Gilbert is a paedophile. I fully understand that Gilbert's love for Violet is born out of kindness and I am willing to argue with anyone who thinks otherwise but many people seem to think of it as a romantic kind of love. Sure, perception is a thing but, taking things the wrong way is also a thing.

Have you seen any anime or anime character you think is misunderstood by a fair number of people?

Dear God, there are people who think that ?! Good I try to stay away from these forums as much as possible.

Hmm, Light, for example, didn't inherently want to save the world through his actions, it was all about getting rid of his boredom.

And also Gilgamesh, most people just pass him off as an "arrogant asshole".

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May 4, 2019 6:45 AM

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Gintama.
Everyone assumes it's all a gag & comedy fest (a fair portion is), when in actual fact the comedy is merely a subset to the serious plot devices it entails. They misunderstand the series from its exaggerative comedy & sometimes crude humour for the true story Gintama is telling; they are merely building up their characters and making you indulge in their personalities & relationships, for the serious moments that'll make you cry your eyes out.
Same thing goes for the characters, although you'd think that'd be quite easy to understand.

I think just a lot of people confuse themselves too easily, or are too used to anime that lacks development.

May 4, 2019 6:49 AM

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Shinji of course. I get it, Eva is not everyone's kind of show, but man the shit people say about Shinji specifically sometimes smh. Like yes please tell me all about how badass you would have been if you were forced to fight in a violent war as a traumatized, alienated 14 year old.

May 4, 2019 6:56 AM

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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, despite being known as the "meme" and "over the top" battle shounen anime, does have thematic depth later on, especially prominent in Part 5 onwards. The series is about fate and legacy, and also as Will A. Zeppeli says, "Courage is a marvel of humanity!" - JoJo is also about the beauty of humanity. Fate cannot be changed, instead of letting fate dictate our actions, we should courageously follow our beliefs and goals, and we can inspire others to pass on this will and courage and change the world for the better. That is the thesis of JoJo.

May 4, 2019 7:06 AM

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Ecchi Anime.
People expect so much on this shows, even though it was just fanservice but still some show good potential that made it popular but boi

May 4, 2019 7:19 AM

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Kuraya said:

KreatorX said:
Pretty sure there's plenty of such instances.

The most common ones I see are Shinji from Evangelion, Subaru from Re-zero, Okabe and Mayuri from Steins;Gate, just to name a few.

how is Subaru misunderstood, sorry I try not to read on the forums too much, I'd get too pissed off

The most common are "he is useless", "he is an asshole" and "he is a pussy".

Useless because he is a normal kid with no money nor connections, so "failing" is dumb... bot imo, that is normal.

Asshole, because they way he acted during a couple of episodes when he broke... imo, all the things that happened to him are actually things that can break a normal kid.

Pussy, be cause he is afraid of dying... this one is the most retarded reason I've heard, and one of the mos common one... appearently, if you "could" revive (Subaru can't control that) you shouldn't care about death... but when most people hit their pinky toe they cry like bitches...

May 4, 2019 7:31 AM

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Kuraya said:

KreatorX said:
Pretty sure there's plenty of such instances.

The most common ones I see are Shinji from Evangelion, Subaru from Re-zero, Okabe and Mayuri from Steins;Gate, just to name a few.

how is Subaru misunderstood, sorry I try not to read on the forums too much, I'd get too pissed off

Yeah, plenty of it starts from him being "obsessed" with Emilia, him being whiny, him acting like a absolute idiot, him "not doing anything about his situation", "that fucker rejected Rem", the list goes on..

Many don't even get the base idea that the character is designed to be someone who is borderline fixated on escapism, suffers from low interpersonal skills due to being a NEET, treats everything around him as a videogame/anime/manga since that's how he thinks people around him behave. The also skimp on the idea that such people fear social rejection, especially more from someone they like.

It's funny, because many of the above people watched and enjoyed the mindset of the main character in Welcome to NHK, when Subaru in Re-zero is just a different version of Satou in a nutshell. Re-zero then takes a different trajectory with such a main character in an isekai with a videogame checkpoint like plot device.

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Pussy, be cause he is afraid of dying... this one is the most retarded reason I've heard, and one of the mos common one... appearently, if you "could" revive (Subaru can't control that) you shouldn't care about death... but when most people hit their pinky toe they cry like bitches...

LOL

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May 4, 2019 7:58 AM

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DaCraziGuy said:

Kuraya said:

how is Subaru misunderstood, sorry I try not to read on the forums too much, I'd get too pissed off

The most common are "he is useless", "he is an asshole" and "he is a pussy".

Useless because he is a normal kid with no money nor connections, so "failing" is dumb... bot imo, that is normal.

Asshole, because they way he acted during a couple of episodes when he broke... imo, all the things that happened to him are actually things that can break a normal kid.

Pussy, be cause he is afraid of dying... this one is the most retarded reason I've heard, and one of the mos common one... appearently, if you "could" revive (Subaru can't control that) you shouldn't care about death... but when most people hit their pinky toe they cry like bitches...

Dear God, I'm shocked by stupidity even though I know what peaks it can reach.

First off Subaru is not the most normal or common of people. At least after he was transported he was extremely social and optimistic. Why would anyone even bring up money if he was transported to another world tf

It's not a matter of opinion anyway, and you are underestimating his experience.
It's basically impossible for the human mind to withstand all the physical and psychological damage he went through. Subaru is extremely OP in this remark.

And that's retarded AF, what the actual shit. It's not about just reviving after. I can't pose facts here but for humans death is a one time experience. It's not just about the physical pain that causes the death, the simple sensing of death approaching you from all directions one time could make a person go crazy, Subaru has experienced that time and time again.

He's character is just incredible, I love him.

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May 4, 2019 8:03 AM

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I often thought Hachiman is one of those. It's somehow eerie to me how some people, who identify with him, see him as some type of idol for themselves.
I see him as a lonely young man, who wrote the essay at the beginning out of bitterness and because he was judgemental towards people, since he didn't have much experiences with human relationships and imagined things about them to feel better about himself. He is one of those, who didn't know what it's like to have someone close to them and how it feels like, but he subconsciously wishes to (he said himself he wants something genuine), so he tries to protect himself by his made-up logic. He is, to me, one of the textbook person for overcompensating with arrogance and repression.
I mean, he starts to think about others too and what's wrong with himself.
But some people I saw, view him as their perfect role model, who can't do no wrong and this is pretty much a "wtf, have we watched the same anime" to me, although I understand which kind of person thinks like that.

And in general: Some people would call everything "whiny" that gives any hint of a human flaw and normal reactions to events (I mean, the not so cool flaws and normal reactions).

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May 4, 2019 8:09 AM

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Lmao, Violet is too old so even if he had a boner for her it would not be pedophilia. People really like to demonstrate their complete failure to understand basic concepts and what they mean.

That being said yeah, it was also pretty obviously not anything romantic per se, if anything her feelings towards him might have been of that nature but then again she was so confused and inept when it comes to feelings that she probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between amicable and romantic love. This feels more like something that belongs in this thread:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1780533

Less of a difference in opinion and more of a complete misinterpretation of the whole show.

I probably regret this post by now.

May 4, 2019 8:17 AM

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Maneki-Mew said:
I often thought Hachiman is one of those. It's somehow eerie to me how some people, who identify with him, see him as some type of idol for themselves.
I see him as a lonely young man, who wrote the essay at the beginning out of bitterness and because he was judgemental towards people, since he didn't have much experiences with human relationships and imagined things about them to feel better about himself. He is one of those, who didn't know what it's like to have someone close to them and how it feels like, but he subconsciously wishes to (he said himself he wants something genuine), so he tries to protect himself by his made-up logic. He is, to me, one of the textbook person for overcompensating with arrogance and repression.
I mean, he starts to think about others too and what's wrong with himself.
But some people I saw, view him as their perfect role model.

I also have seen very few people whose opinion on Hachiman aligns with mine, that goes both for the people who idealize him and for the people who hate him. I relate to him a lot, but probably not in the way that most of his fans do. More in the way that his personality, his insecurity and his worldviews are inherently setting him up so he'll always sabotage his own happiness and he kinda knows it but there's nothing he can really do about it because changing those things would just turn him into a different person and he doesn't want that either. He both hates and likes who he is, because while it'll probably keep him miserable for most of his life, being any other way would just be even worse for him.

I could probably write a few more paragraphs on him, but I don't have the time and energy right now. I just wanted to mention that I think he's a great example since most of the praise and criticism people throw at him sounds to me like they're talking about a different person compared to how I perceive him.

I probably regret this post by now.

May 4, 2019 8:34 AM

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Pullman said:

Maneki-Mew said:
I often thought Hachiman is one of those. It's somehow eerie to me how some people, who identify with him, see him as some type of idol for themselves.
I see him as a lonely young man, who wrote the essay at the beginning out of bitterness and because he was judgemental towards people, since he didn't have much experiences with human relationships and imagined things about them to feel better about himself. He is one of those, who didn't know what it's like to have someone close to them and how it feels like, but he subconsciously wishes to (he said himself he wants something genuine), so he tries to protect himself by his made-up logic. He is, to me, one of the textbook person for overcompensating with arrogance and repression.
I mean, he starts to think about others too and what's wrong with himself.
But some people I saw, view him as their perfect role model.

I also have seen very few people whose opinion on Hachiman aligns with mine, that goes both for the people who idealize him and for the people who hate him. I relate to him a lot, but probably not in the way that most of his fans do. More in the way that his personality, his insecurity and his worldviews are inherently setting him up so he'll always sabotage his own happiness and he kinda knows it but there's nothing he can really do about it because changing those things would just turn him into a different person and he doesn't want that either. He both hates and likes who he is, because while it'll probably keep him miserable for most of his life, being any other way would just be even worse for him.

I could probably write a few more paragraphs on him, but I don't have the time and energy right now. I just wanted to mention that I think he's a great example since most of the praise and criticism people throw at him sounds to me like they're talking about a different person compared to how I perceive him.

Well, it wasn't exactly criticism. That's how I perceived him and I really came to like him too. At first as character, and as soon as he gave hints that he could be better than that, as a person as well.

This makes sense too. He kinda doesn't know how to be a different person, because it's scary to "lose" parts of yourself and he has been like that for a long time. So, it became a habit to be like that.
I understand to relate to him in these ways. Also I think many people have mastered sabotaging themselves in different ways.

Just thought that the "this is the perfect guy"-perceptions aren't what his development and the show wanted to show.

May 4, 2019 9:03 AM

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Ginti (Death Parade) did nothing wrong.

What good is that for reincarnation? Why should someone who wasted their life and stood by that waste until the very end get reincarnation?

May 4, 2019 9:22 AM

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Kuraya said:

DaCraziGuy said:

The most common are "he is useless", "he is an asshole" and "he is a pussy".

Useless because he is a normal kid with no money nor connections, so "failing" is dumb... bot imo, that is normal.

Asshole, because they way he acted during a couple of episodes when he broke... imo, all the things that happened to him are actually things that can break a normal kid.

Pussy, be cause he is afraid of dying... this one is the most retarded reason I've heard, and one of the mos common one... appearently, if you "could" revive (Subaru can't control that) you shouldn't care about death... but when most people hit their pinky toe they cry like bitches...

Dear God, I'm shocked by stupidity even though I know what peaks it can reach.

First off Subaru is not the most normal or common of people. At least after he was transported he was extremely social and optimistic. Why would anyone even bring up money if he was transported to another world tf

It's not a matter of opinion anyway, and you are underestimating his experience.
It's basically impossible for the human mind to withstand all the physical and psychological damage he went through. Subaru is extremely OP in this remark.

And that's retarded AF, what the actual shit. It's not about just reviving after. I can't pose facts here but for humans death is a one time experience. It's not just about the physical pain that causes the death, the simple sensing of death approaching you from all directions one time could make a person go crazy, Subaru has experienced that time and time again.

He's character is just incredible, I love him.

I like him too, sadly most kids (not all of them) and some delusional adults can't enjoy realistic characters. The sense of failing or struggling seems dumb in their minds, or that living can actually change you personality or line of thoughs. But well, all I can say is: "fuck them, we got second season" hahahah

May 4, 2019 9:29 AM

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Pullman said:
Lmao, Violet is too old so even if he had a boner for her it would not be pedophilia. People really like to demonstrate their complete failure to understand basic concepts and what they mean.

wasn't she around 13-14 yo? That is pretty pedo imo. 16 is a more understandable age... even 15 in some cases, but less than that seems pretty crazy to be considered "safe".

If you were being sarcastic tho, ignore my comment.

May 4, 2019 9:30 AM

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DaCraziGuy said:

Kuraya said:

Dear God, I'm shocked by stupidity even though I know what peaks it can reach.

First off Subaru is not the most normal or common of people. At least after he was transported he was extremely social and optimistic. Why would anyone even bring up money if he was transported to another world tf

It's not a matter of opinion anyway, and you are underestimating his experience.
It's basically impossible for the human mind to withstand all the physical and psychological damage he went through. Subaru is extremely OP in this remark.

And that's retarded AF, what the actual shit. It's not about just reviving after. I can't pose facts here but for humans death is a one time experience. It's not just about the physical pain that causes the death, the simple sensing of death approaching you from all directions one time could make a person go crazy, Subaru has experienced that time and time again.

He's character is just incredible, I love him.

I like him too, sadly most kids (not all of them) and some delusional adults can't enjoy realistic characters. The sense of failing or struggling seems dumb in their minds, or that living can actually change you personality or line of thoughs. But well, all I can say is: "fuck them, we got second season" hahahah

I'm a kid too so I appreciate the parentheses.

lol, that's true, hah, still haven't completely grasped the notion of "Re:Zero 2nd season".
Even so, if the second season does what I expect it will be fucking amazing

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May 4, 2019 9:47 AM

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DaCraziGuy said:

Pullman said:
Lmao, Violet is too old so even if he had a boner for her it would not be pedophilia. People really like to demonstrate their complete failure to understand basic concepts and what they mean.

wasn't she around 13-14 yo? That is pretty pedo imo. 16 is a more understandable age... even 15 in some cases, but less than that seems pretty crazy to be considered "safe".

If you were being sarcastic tho, ignore my comment.

Well, IIRC the anime itself doesn't specific because she doesn't knowher own age so all we get in the anime is her 'guess'. But she sure doesn't seem/look like 14 to me, more like 16+.

But also the definition of pedophilia has nothing to do with being 'understandable' or not. It's by definition about prepubescent children only, meaning before the onset of puberty, so 12 at the oldest, usually younger. There are other medical terms for attraction to other age groups, but in any case neither of them are related to age of consent laws which can vary depending on the country (14yo is legal in my country for example, in many others it isn't) but instead invariable medical definitions. I don't know about you, but the common misconception I see (and was referring to) is people inflating pedophilia to mean any kind of relationship or attraction to anyone below the age of consent or under the age of 18, but that's not what the term means at all. It's much more specific than that. No matter how you think about people being attracted to 16yo girls, it's never gonna qualify as pedophilia.

On a sidenote if someone sees an adult in an anime caring for a 12 or 14yo war orphan and their first thought/interpretation is that he must have pedophilic intentions, I think it says more about how they view girls of that age than it says about the anime. The thought honestly never crossed my mind when I watched the show, and I'm a lolicon ffs -.-.

I probably regret this post by now.

May 4, 2019 10:07 AM

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KreatorX said:

Kuraya said:

how is Subaru misunderstood, sorry I try not to read on the forums too much, I'd get too pissed off

Yeah, plenty of it starts from him being "obsessed" with Emilia, him being whiny, him acting like a absolute idiot, him "not doing anything about his situation", "that fucker rejected Rem", the list goes on..

Many don't even get the base idea that the character is designed to be someone who is borderline fixated on escapism, suffers from low interpersonal skills due to being a NEET, treats everything around him as a videogame/anime/manga since that's how he thinks people around him behave. The also skimp on the idea that such people fear social rejection, especially more from someone they like.

It's funny, because many of the above people watched and enjoyed the mindset of the main character in Welcome to NHK, when Subaru in Re-zero is just a different version of Satou in a nutshell. Re-zero then takes a different trajectory with such a main character in an isekai with a videogame checkpoint like plot device.

I've always found the hate against him because of how he treated Rem to be weird. What she did to him before he got past the mansion reset would put anyone off being intimate with her for a while.
To me it looks like he sees Emelia as the main heroine that he needs to be with to "complete" the game and get a happy ending.

May 4, 2019 10:13 AM

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low-key anyone who doesn't like a character within my fav section is misunderstanding them

Im slightly kidding tbh

May 4, 2019 10:27 AM

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Since pedophilia was brought up, after Sherry Tyueli was saved by Kouji Sugawara by accepting her as his future bride in GATE, some labeled him as a pedophile. Which isn't true.

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May 4, 2019 10:52 AM

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Platypus7 said:

I've always found the hate against him because of how he treated Rem to be weird. What she did to him before he got past the mansion reset would put anyone off being intimate with her for a while.
To me it looks like he sees Emelia as the main heroine that he needs to be with to "complete" the game and get a happy ending.

Exactly! He treated the world and people around him as if it were a videogame. The irony is funny when he himself quipped about Emilia becoming his "easy-to-get-heroine", and then you see him go through a series of outlandish trials just to start heading in that direction, lol.

Like for his "obsession" with her, you may already know this and it's also plain obvious to see why. Imagine if someone hauled you out of your room and dropped you in the middle of a foreign country (maybe in a rural place), you don't have your passport, no money, no phone, can't read the local language and get roughed up by the locals. You are shitting bricks at your predicament basically.

Then a person steps in to disperse the situation, provides lodging at their place, offers you a job and language lessons to help you get by in this new land. Folks at her place don't trust you but she places good faith in you despite that, because she wants to know more about you and help your situation before passing any verdict on you.

So of-course there will be a strong form of attachment towards such a person, because this is a type of helpful/trustful treatment being given in your favour, that too in a foreign land. Just putting two and two together here. Why a good chunk of people fail to see this, is simply beyond me.

Now that I think of it, even Emilia is in the same boat as Subaru. "Oh she did aBsOluTeLy nuFFin' for Subaru to even warrant his focus on her". ffs lmao

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May 4, 2019 11:11 AM

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Pullman said:

DaCraziGuy said:

wasn't she around 13-14 yo? That is pretty pedo imo. 16 is a more understandable age... even 15 in some cases, but less than that seems pretty crazy to be considered "safe".

If you were being sarcastic tho, ignore my comment.

Well, IIRC the anime itself doesn't specific because she doesn't knowher own age so all we get in the anime is her 'guess'. But she sure doesn't seem/look like 14 to me, more like 16+.

But also the definition of pedophilia has nothing to do with being 'understandable' or not. It's by definition about prepubescent children only, meaning before the onset of puberty, so 12 at the oldest, usually younger. There are other medical terms for attraction to other age groups, but in any case neither of them are related to age of consent laws which can vary depending on the country (14yo is legal in my country for example, in many others it isn't) but instead invariable medical definitions. I don't know about you, but the common misconception I see (and was referring to) is people inflating pedophilia to mean any kind of relationship or attraction to anyone below the age of consent or under the age of 18, but that's not what the term means at all. It's much more specific than that. No matter how you think about people being attracted to 16yo girls, it's never gonna qualify as pedophilia.

On a sidenote if someone sees an adult in an anime caring for a 12 or 14yo war orphan and their first thought/interpretation is that he must have pedophilic intentions, I think it says more about how they view girls of that age than it says about the anime. The thought honestly never crossed my mind when I watched the show, and I'm a lolicon ffs -.-.

I agree that she doesn't look at all to be less than 16 years in any aspect. Also, it's true that thinking that he wanted to bang the kid is a pretty retarded interpretation. But I'm not sure about the meaning of the love that the "dude-that-I-can't- remember-his-name" expressed is at that moment.

Leaving that asides, technically you could say that only under 12 is the pedo barrier... or you could also use the legal barrier. There is no doubt that under 12 is bad in every aspect. The 13 - 18 is a very gray area imo because, every girl(and boy) and every year change everything. I do think tho, that most under 16 yo kids don't have a good judgement in a lot of aspects and some adults could take advantage of them (in more than one aspect).

And last, I know that it's not that uncommon to have 14 yo as legal age. In my country is 16, and I kinda agree on that but I'm not that sure anyway.

May 4, 2019 11:12 AM

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I would say Imouto sae Ireba Ii is one. The title alone already filter user since most people allergic to imouto on the title in the same vein of how isekai do. Not only that but the series itself did more filtering on showcasing the sheer absurdity in it's first view minute which necessarily turn people off.

In actually it's a series about creator life and struggle they have to stay in creative industry. Having your won series destroyed after much anticipation, inferiority complex with your loved one, bullying, watching your unrequited love having unrequited love and such. Also dealing with the possibility of having your creation destroyed just to be having a chance to stand with your lover.

It's great series honestly with likable cast. 100% want a sequel or at least for someone to translate the LN.

Also the OP are great. I keep listening to this every other day.

Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.

May 4, 2019 11:29 AM

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KreatorX said:

Platypus7 said:

I've always found the hate against him because of how he treated Rem to be weird. What she did to him before he got past the mansion reset would put anyone off being intimate with her for a while.
To me it looks like he sees Emelia as the main heroine that he needs to be with to "complete" the game and get a happy ending.

Exactly! He treated the world and people around him as if it were a videogame. The irony is funny when he himself quipped about Emilia becoming his "easy-to-get-heroine", and then you see him go through a series of outlandish trials just to start heading in that direction, lol.

Like for his "obsession" with her, you may already know this and it's also plain obvious to see why. Imagine if someone hauled you out of your room and dropped you in the middle of a foreign country (maybe in a rural place), you don't have your passport, no money, no phone, can't read the local language and get roughed up by the locals. You are shitting bricks at your predicament basically.

Then a person steps in to disperse the situation, provides lodging at their place, offers you a job and language lessons to help you get by in this new land. Folks at her place don't trust you but she places good faith in you despite that, because she wants to know more about you and help your situation before passing any verdict on you.

So of-course there will be a strong form of attachment towards such a person, because this is a type of helpful/trustful treatment being given in your favour, that too in a foreign land. Just putting two and two together here. Why a good chunk of people fail to see this, is simply beyond me.

Now that I think of it, even Emilia is in the same boat as Subaru. "Oh she did aBsOluTeLy nuFFin' for Subaru to even warrant his focus on her". ffs lmao

Yeah, he basically imprints on Emelia. His relationship with Rem is more regular. I can see why a lot of people prefer Rem over Emelia because she does get more development but that doesn't make her a better girl from Subaru's perspective.

May 4, 2019 12:22 PM

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Most recent example would be Mya-nee from wataten. People think that she is a horny pedophile because of the synopsis the anime has but its totally different in reality.

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May 4, 2019 12:46 PM

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So many people act like Kyubey from Madoka Magica was a malicious, evil being who deliberately set out to cause harm. I really feel like that isn't the point of his character whatsoever.

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May 4, 2019 1:44 PM

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Kuraya said:

DaCraziGuy said:

I like him too, sadly most kids (not all of them) and some delusional adults can't enjoy realistic characters. The sense of failing or struggling seems dumb in their minds, or that living can actually change you personality or line of thoughs. But well, all I can say is: "fuck them, we got second season" hahahah

I'm a kid too so I appreciate the parentheses.

lol, that's true, hah, still haven't completely grasped the notion of "Re:Zero 2nd season".
Even so, if the second season does what I expect it will be fucking amazing

Yeah, people are just different, but I remember that I had less patience for some character drama and flaws too (mainly the "mean" ones or some characters with depression), when I was like 15. I think, some anime targeted to teenagers have stories and characters that are better understood by an older audience (in general, of course not an overwhelming majority). Do you know the feeling of coming back to something you have watched like 2 - 5 - 10 years ago and now, you see it with different eyes.

DaCraziGuy said:

Kuraya said:

Dear God, I'm shocked by stupidity even though I know what peaks it can reach.

First off Subaru is not the most normal or common of people. At least after he was transported he was extremely social and optimistic. Why would anyone even bring up money if he was transported to another world tf

It's not a matter of opinion anyway, and you are underestimating his experience.
It's basically impossible for the human mind to withstand all the physical and psychological damage he went through. Subaru is extremely OP in this remark.

And that's retarded AF, what the actual shit. It's not about just reviving after. I can't pose facts here but for humans death is a one time experience. It's not just about the physical pain that causes the death, the simple sensing of death approaching you from all directions one time could make a person go crazy, Subaru has experienced that time and time again.

He's character is just incredible, I love him.

I like him too, sadly most kids (not all of them) and some delusional adults can't enjoy realistic characters. The sense of failing or struggling seems dumb in their minds, or that living can actually change you personality or line of thoughs. But well, all I can say is: "fuck them, we got second season" hahahah

I don't think that most of those people don't understand these concepts.
Some might struggle with empathy and so on, but most of them might use fiction as an escape (which is nothing bad per se, of course) and don't want to see parts of themselves or other people they dislike in a medium they use as an escape.
And some are really idealistic and have strict rules. They want to behave characters in a certain way inbetween their strict rules.

DaCraziGuy said:

Pullman said:
Lmao, Violet is too old so even if he had a boner for her it would not be pedophilia. People really like to demonstrate their complete failure to understand basic concepts and what they mean.

wasn't she around 13-14 yo? That is pretty pedo imo. 16 is a more understandable age... even 15 in some cases, but less than that seems pretty crazy to be considered "safe".

If you were being sarcastic tho, ignore my comment.

Never thought she could around 14? I thought she is around 17.

May 4, 2019 2:05 PM

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