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Feb 1, 2010 4:53 AM
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Inuyasha sure is taking his time with Kagura, who is using her wind to reanimate the soulless villagers; when he decides to use the Wind Scar against her, he gets a nasty surprise and finds Kanna using her mirror to reflect his attack. I'm sure Kikyou must have some sort of plan when she give Naraku the shards^^
Mar 29, 2010 10:10 AM
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my kikyo ? say what ??? would inuyasha just give up on kikyo she's already dead men inuyasha
Apr 24, 2014 12:00 PM
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Damn that Naraku, hurting Inuyasha by telling him that Kikyo wants him dead >:(

I'm glad Kagome managed to shut him up in the end. Did I mention she and Kikyo are extremely OP in this anime? If you ever find yourself in the feudal era don't mess with priestesses ^^
May 26, 2014 9:45 AM
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This was a very great episode, I loved the new ending too. InuYasha's feelings for Kikyo are still as strong as ever, InuYasha regained consciousness when he heard that Kikyo wanted him dead and said "my Kikyo" at the end. I've been enjoying InuYasha a lot recently, the love triangle between Kagome, InuYasha and Kikyo is extremely interesting.


Jan 15, 2015 8:18 PM
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Inuyasha getting a taste of his own medicine. Surprise surprise, Kanna reflects the attack back to Inuyasha. Naraku sure has lots of ways to deal with Inuyasha,
Jul 30, 2015 8:02 PM
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Eh, it look like Naraku forgot his fly things to counter Miroku. Don't deny your incompetence with some shitty excuses like : ''We'll let you live for this time''. Hasn't he understood yet that until he have Kagome figured out, he'll never get a complete win?

InuYasha can't get off Naraku wild ride though. One can't get off the wild ride, it never end! Except after 167 episodes and a second season, then I guess it can end.
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May 2, 2016 4:39 PM
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Fuck i tough Inuyasha had finally stopped thinking about Kykyo and was falling for Kagome, that piss me off !
May 6, 2016 8:00 PM
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kuranlover7891 said:
my kikyo ? say what ??? would inuyasha just give up on kikyo she's already dead men inuyasha


The fact they both still love each other despite circumstances symbolize their strong bond. At this point, Naraku says Kikyou want Inuyasha dead to taunt him. Pretty sure at this point that is the last thing in Kikyou's head. If she wants him dead, its more of wanting him to join her in the afterlife, its no longer an act of revenge.
Jan 13, 2017 6:24 PM
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The Kikyo love triangle is way too drawn out. It's understandable why Kikyo still has a role in the show, but Inuyasha doesn't need to still have feelings for her...it's obvious she's not the same Kikyo he once knew.

I don't find Kanna as interesting as of an opponent as Kagura, but she has a nice design I guess. I wonder when Miroku and Sango will begin to develop new skills, as they kind of need them. They're proficient in combat for sure but that proficiency is becoming less and less useful as Naraku grows stronger. Inuyasha is at least mastering the Wind Scar and Kagome is sharpening her archery as well as her medical abilities. Everyone needs some development to go around!

This new ED is the best of them all so far imo.
Jan 11, 2018 4:09 PM

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"I'll let you live this time"
Sure Naraku, just run off again you coward >.> Once again he proved himself to be a boring antagonist.
Aug 19, 2019 2:32 PM

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Damn Inuyasha must have felt pretty powerless this fight after being tricked by Naraku's henchmen. I wonder when he's going to cut off or get over his feelings for Kikyo completely, I think that is something that is holding him motivationally back.

Nov 4, 2019 4:32 AM
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"where are you, my Kikyo?"


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Mar 29, 2020 12:56 PM
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The fact that he is still crying over Kikyo is rly getting on my nerves


Mar 29, 2020 12:59 PM

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The fact that he is still crying over Kikyo is rly getting on my nerves


I'd say you best get used to it as it is a longer series and that fact doesn't change anytime soon, although it's a frequently cited annoyance by many fans. Kikyo was the first human to ever love him after his own mother, Izayoi, and first in a romantic sense.
Mar 29, 2020 1:56 PM
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WatchTillTandava said:
Yiuumii said:
The fact that he is still crying over Kikyo is rly getting on my nerves


I'd say you best get used to it as it is a longer series and that fact doesn't change anytime soon, although it's a frequently cited annoyance by many fans. Kikyo was the first human to ever love him after his own mother, Izayoi, and first in a romantic sense.


I surly can understand that and oh welp, I am aware that it will slide along probably most of the series. I still can't really get over it. A bit more of an inner fight would be kinda more appreciated. Like I loved you and I still feel love for you, but I start hating you or something like that. At least for me, but I guess it's personal taste.


Mar 29, 2020 2:31 PM

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I surly can understand that and oh welp, I am aware that it will slide along probably most of the series. I still can't really get over it. A bit more of an inner fight would be kinda more appreciated. Like I loved you and I still feel love for you, but I start hating you or something like that. At least for me, but I guess it's personal taste.


I won't provide any specifics so as to not spoil anything, but I'll just say that in a 193 episode series this is still very early days and the relationships over the course of the rest of the story, characters' internal struggling and their interpersonal dynamics, the way they feel about each other and their past, present, and future - including Inuyasha, Kikyo, and Kagome, gets significantly more fleshed out. They mature like a fine wine in a very satisfactory manner, at least in my view, by the series' end.
Apr 3, 2020 3:04 AM
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WatchTillTandava said:


I won't provide any specifics so as to not spoil anything, but I'll just say that in a 193 episode series this is still very early days and the relationships over the course of the rest of the story, characters' internal struggling and their interpersonal dynamics, the way they feel about each other and their past, present, and future - including Inuyasha, Kikyo, and Kagome, gets significantly more fleshed out. They mature like a fine wine in a very satisfactory manner, at least in my view, by the series' end.


I see, well then I will wait to see how this developes. I may had prefered a faster way, but I am happy to see the changes as the series goes on!


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so i was right, kagome's soul is unique.

after saying so many bad things kikyo did, he said "my kikyo", inuyasha truly have complex.

the ED was nice, but i loved the previous more.
Dec 14, 2020 3:40 PM

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Even after giving Naraku the shard, Inuyasha still has feelings for Kikyo.

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Dec 15, 2020 12:52 PM

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dang... "my Kikyo". He still loves her. I feel so bad for Kagome :( ...
Jun 25, 2021 12:48 PM

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Kagura, Naraku and now Kanna.

Damn, Imagine if Kikyou even joined Naraku. No one could probably stop them.

New ED Song!!!
Aug 31, 2021 8:34 AM

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The most annoying thing is how Naraku every time escapes, it's really getting old.
Aug 31, 2021 3:40 PM

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Gator said:
The most annoying thing is how Naraku every time escapes, it's really getting old.


What would you prefer he do/prefer happen?
Sep 1, 2021 7:27 AM

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WatchTillTandava said:
Gator said:
The most annoying thing is how Naraku every time escapes, it's really getting old.

What would you prefer he do/prefer happen?

Everything would be better than him disappearing everytime in miasma once he starts losing. He could not appear at all or have at least one of his minions die for example.
Sep 1, 2021 3:50 PM

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Everything would be better than him disappearing everytime in miasma once he starts losing. He could not appear at all or have at least one of his minions die for example.


Many have complained about this same thing previously, but the thing is, it is consistent with his character. Naraku has many plots and machinations, but he is not a truly invincible, all-powerful being nor is he even necessarily the physically strongest character in the series at any given time. Therefore, he relies on shrewdness, intelligence, deception, and henchmen/middlemen to carry out his agenda and won't hesitate to retreat to safety.

As soon as he receives the first meaningful sign he is at serious risk of losing, he will not allow misplaced pride and overconfidence to cloud his judgment or stick around for the sake of seeming tough and honorable like many battle shounen protagonists and even some villains. He has a keen sense of self-preservation and isn't the type to throw his life away on an uncertain gamble or to make a point. He wants to survive to see his victory, not rush in foolishly. Therefore, it makes sense plot-wise and with his characterization up to now.
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WatchTillTandava said:
Gator said:
Everything would be better than him disappearing everytime in miasma once he starts losing. He could not appear at all or have at least one of his minions die for example.


Many have complained about this same thing previously, but the thing is, it is consistent with his character. Naraku has many plots and machinations, but he is not a truly invincible, all-powerful being nor is he even necessarily the physically strongest character in the series at any given time. Therefore, he relies on shrewdness, intelligence, deception, and henchmen/middlemen to carry out his agenda and won't hesitate to retreat to safety.

As soon as he receives the first meaningful sign he is at serious risk of losing, he will not allow misplaced pride and overconfidence to cloud his judgment or stick around for the sake of seeming tough and honorable like many battle shounen protagonists and even some villains. He has a keen sense of self-preservation and isn't the type to throw his life away on an uncertain gamble or to make a point. He wants to survive to see his victory, not rush in foolishly. Therefore, it makes sense plot-wise and with his characterization up to now.

I don't really mind him being a careful coward, that fits him quite well. It's more that he and Kagura fulfill the trope of the enemy having an easy escape every single time, just so the story can continue. He could literally attack Inuyasha every hour or so to see if he might kill him, since he can always just disappear in smoke and thus is never in danger.
And that's predictable and boring, because at the end of the day you already know that he will get away anyway.

I actually found the trope I was referring to, it's called "Smoke Out".
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SmokeOut
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Inuyasha really acknowledged all the damage Kikyo done and still wants to be with her. He's so blindly in love it's painful.
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This must be the first time Inuyasha got injured so badly. And that too by his own attack. Damn. And then the bombshell dropped about Kikyo giving Naraku the Shikon jewel... Even if Naraku's lying about wanting to see Inuyasha dead, what the hell was she thinking?!

I feel bad about Koharu. She and Miroku are just not meant to be.
Oct 21, 2023 12:44 PM

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Great episode hindered by too many recent flashbacks and stills. The enemy continues to get stronger.
Nov 6, 2023 5:57 AM

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How is it possible that Kagome can still fire the imbued arrows? I though that this was made possible by her having the jewel shards, which Kikyo stole. Is that a skill that she just learned to use, or am I missing something here?
Nov 9, 2023 7:35 PM

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How is it possible that Kagome can still fire the imbued arrows? I though that this was made possible by her having the jewel shards, which Kikyo stole. Is that a skill that she just learned to use, or am I missing something here?


It has nothing to do with the sacred jewel shards. She herself - her very existence - is spiritually powerful by virtue of being the reincarnation of Kikyo. In the events taking place before the start of the series, she grew up and always lived on her family's shrine property so she could be considered like an informal "miko" (shrine maiden or priestess) and is sometimes referred to this way by other characters, but it's just that she didn't discover or have any reason to tap into her own innate power until going back in time, learning of Kikyo's existence and their possible connection, learning of the shikon no tama, etc.

The power surrounding those arrows is not the kind derived from any object. It's not the kind the sacred jewel grants. The instances of the sacred jewel granting power to humans in the series manifest differently, but don't want to get into spoiler-territory. That she can sense the sacred jewel shards' location is another innately-derived ability.
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gensogrips said:
How is it possible that Kagome can still fire the imbued arrows? I though that this was made possible by her having the jewel shards, which Kikyo stole. Is that a skill that she just learned to use, or am I missing something here?


It has nothing to do with the sacred jewel shards. She herself - her very existence - is spiritually powerful by virtue of being the reincarnation of Kikyo. In the events taking place before the start of the series, she grew up and always lived on her family's shrine property so she could be considered like an informal "miko" (shrine maiden or priestess) and is sometimes referred to this way by other characters, but it's just that she didn't discover or have any reason to tap into her own innate power until going back in time, learning of Kikyo's existence and their possible connection, learning of the shikon no tama, etc.

The power surrounding those arrows is not the kind derived from any object. It's not the kind the sacred jewel grants. The instances of the sacred jewel granting power to humans in the series manifest differently, but don't want to get into spoiler-territory. That she can sense the sacred jewel shards' location is another innately-derived ability.
Ah, I see. So it could be viewed as Kagome slowly growing in the old role of Kikyo as her reincarnation (I presume Kikyo was her distant relative as well). That complicates a bit since Kikyo was resurrected, but she doesn't act as a miko anymore, so maybe not... anyway, I think I get it now. Thanks!

(I'm trying to watch without subs, or rather, with JP subs in order to improve my Japanese skills so sometimes I might miss an important thing or two. Alas, this forum has been pretty good for filling in the blanks, because the important plot points usually get brought up, this was just a small detail that bothered me.)
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I liked how we see Inuyasha weak in front of Naraku and falling in this way. Kagome is annoying. Beautiful episode.
Jan 22, 2024 5:41 AM
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I liked how we see Inuyasha weak in front of Naraku and falling in this way. Kagome is annoying. Beautiful episode.
Jan 22, 2024 5:47 AM
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I liked how we see Inuyasha weak in front of Naraku and falling in this way. Kagome is annoying. Beautiful episode.

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