| Examples Natural Talent: Kuroko (KnB), most of Naruto's cast, Yasuri (Katanagatari), Hard Work: Edward Elrice (FMA), Rock Lee (Naruto), Kenichi As the thread question says, do you prefer protagonists who have a natural talent or protagonists who worked hard to be as talented as they are? |
PeenusWeenusCaimJan 14, 2015 1:50 PM
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| I like hard work shirou and ed. Natural can be cool like in knk (the nasu one). It's good as long as character goes through some form of struggle/hardship. It's good when their power cruses them. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| rock lee would have been by far the better protagonist for the naruto series , having said that, i prefer hard work. why: no one wants to see an antagonist that has already maxed out his potential from episode 1, all though it is acceptable in certain cases, but in anime that has a dominant battle shounen genre it should be hard work. |
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| Depends if they're good characters. KnK? Don't you mean Kuroko no Basuke? |
| I prefer good characters |
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| i just like their winning of battles not to be a dumb reason, im tired of people beating veterans who have more years of experience than the MC has been alive (twice over), because they have heart or something |
Killaclown said: i just like their winning of battles not to be a dumb reason, im tired of people beating veterans who have more years of experience than the MC has been alive (twice over), because they have heart or something yep, sums up pretty mush every battle shounen in existence :") |
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| Depends on the show I'm watching. If it's something like Kuroko where everything breaks reality, natural talent characters are fine because they are so much fun to watch. In most cases though, it depends on how well written the character is. |
| I prefer talented protagonists who dont take themselves seriously and hold back most of the time unless forced to show their true power :| |
| There’s no hope on the battlefield. It has nothing but unspeakable despair. Just a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated. Yet humanity has never recognized this truth. And the reason for that is, in every era, a dazzling hero has blinded people with their legends and prevented them from seeing the evil of bloodshed. The true nature of humanity has not advanced a step beyond the Stone Age! |
WAD1992 said: yeah, the more battle shounen i watch the harder it is to look past and im afraid it will ruin that whole genre for me :( (along with the MC almost always taking down the big bad)Killaclown said: i just like their winning of battles not to be a dumb reason, im tired of people beating veterans who have more years of experience than the MC has been alive (twice over), because they have heart or something yep, sums up pretty mush every battle shounen in existence :") |
| Hard working because I like to see training. |
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Killaclown said: WAD1992 said: yeah, the more battle shounen i watch the harder it is to look past and im afraid it will ruin that whole genre for me :( (along with the MC almost always taking down the big bad)yep, sums up pretty mush every battle shounen in existence :") Dont worry we still have HxH which is a battle shounen, right @Mikasa ??? :") |
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| Hard work a characters story is defined by the trials they face on their journey. The harder you work for something the sweeter the victory for the characters and the viewers. |
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| wouldn't naruto fall under the hard worker category? |
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DrGeroCreation said: Hard working because I like to see training. Why? I like it when progressed with challenging situations not video game training/grinding time. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Rock Lee would have been an awesome MC lol WAD1992 said: lol dont bait the mikasa.Killaclown said: yeah, the more battle shounen i watch the harder it is to look past and im afraid it will ruin that whole genre for me :( (along with the MC almost always taking down the big bad) Dont worry we still have HxH which is a battle shounen, right @Mikasa ??? :") and yeah thats what i loved about it (though it did it a few times as well). |
sullynathan said: he's both because of the nine-tailswouldn't naruto fall under the hard worker category? |
| Yeah it's nice when they work hard. Irl there are people who you wont be able to be as good as them no matter who much effort you put in though. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
VitaminCaim said: Examples Natural Talent: Kuroko (KnK) Are you referring to Kuroko from Kuroko no Basket? If so, then he is hard working. Aomine and Kagami are the natural talent, although Kagami does his fair share of hard work. |
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Killaclown said: Rock Lee would have been an awesome MC lol lol dont bait the mikasa. and yeah thats what i loved about it (though it did it a few times as well). would he fall for it AGAIN!!! :") |
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| I was afraid you were gonna break out the Naruto examples... It doesn't really matter. |
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| "Most of Naruto's cast" is naturally talented, but Edward Elric is not? Wow, did you actually watch the anime or just skim through it? That being said, I like a well written, enjoyable protagonist and he doesn't have to be one of naturally talented or hard-working. Hell, he could a lazy-ass faggot for all I care, all that matters to me is that he is a good protagonist. |
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| A combination of both. Naruto was a good mixture I guess. |
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black1blade said: I like to see the work the character put in inorder to become stronger.DrGeroCreation said: Hard working because I like to see training. Why? I like it when progressed with challenging situations not video game training/grinding time. |
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| I like characters who have natural talents but need to work hard in order to improve quickly in order to fight a stronger opponent |
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| Can be Natural or hard-working but the character must know the taste of defeat and come back after. I hate undefeated characters. |
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tsudecimo said: Debateable. He never knew the feeling of loss or some shit, the whole "I have no presence" gimmick, and all that.VitaminCaim said: Examples Natural Talent: Kuroko (KnK) Are you referring to Kuroko from Kuroko no Basket? If so, then he is hard working. Aomine and Kagami are the natural talent, although Kagami does his fair share of hard work. |
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| Ehh. Losing/feeling of lose =/= Hard working. It's a relevant theme to hard work, not necessary part of it. And he did anyway. He felt that his basektball was inferior to generation of miracles, Aomine in particular. and was mentally defeated against him twice, but Kagami saved him in the last one. His lack of presence isn't a talent, and he doesn't have any basketball talents. His passing is all from his hard work. He actually sucks hard in normal basketball and doesn't have the talent or body for it, watch the first episode. |
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| hmm which kind is shinji? |
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romagia said: hmm which kind is shinji? Neither. He is just a little shit. |
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| I am yet to see any that falls purely under either. A combo of both for me. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Most of Protagonist is a Natural Talented in some way or another, heck even Raku is considered natural talented... |
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| Neither. Both are predictable as fuck. Got a problem? Don't worry, you're destined to beat it. Got a problem? Don't worry, just do pull-ups, get a giant headstart to catch up, and have the villain conveniently stay the same level throughout this whole time, and beat him. Solution? SMART protagnists. Ones that use an original, outside the box, or a tactical method to bring the enemy down. That's why Gon Freecs and Joseph are the best. |
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Mikasa said: Neither. Both are predictable as fuck. Got a problem? Don't worry, you're destined to beat it. Got a problem? Don't worry, just do pull-ups, get a giant headstart to catch up, and have the villain conveniently stay the same level throughout this whole time, and beat him. Solution? SMART protagnists. Ones that use an original, outside the box, or a tactical method to bring the enemy down. That's why Gon Freecs and Joseph are the best. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
RedRoseFring said: Ofcourse not, Gon is just really smart <.<Mikasa said: Neither. Both are predictable as fuck. Got a problem? Don't worry, you're destined to beat it. Got a problem? Don't worry, just do pull-ups, get a giant headstart to catch up, and have the villain conveniently stay the same level throughout this whole time, and beat him. Solution? SMART protagnists. Ones that use an original, outside the box, or a tactical method to bring the enemy down. That's why Gon Freecs and Joseph are the best. |
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| I prefer talent but not in a way that automatically makes them the best around. Something like the protagonists in HxH and Prince of Tennis stands out to me, a ton of potential in the characters but they still have a long way to go. Edit: I guess sports anime really comes to mind with this one because I just thought of Ippo and Sakuragi from Slam Dunk (although Sakuragi wasn't my favorite character) |
gomboJan 14, 2015 5:09 PM
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DejWoSWK said: Why not both? Hard working talented protagonist FTW. *Mexican music plays |
Milk_is_Special said: RedRoseFring said: Ofcourse not, Gon is just really smart <.<well shows how mush you know!!! |
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sadpwner said: DejWoSWK said: Why not both? Hard working talented protagonist FTW. *Mexican music plays your profile pick is why i stopped watching anime for a significant amount of time and started therapy |
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DejWoSWK said: Why not both? Hard working talented protagonist FTW. +1 I like MCs who have potential and talent and work hard to perfect and evolve their abilities. |
| Storylines gifted-talent MCs and hard-working ones could be both interesting |
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VitaminCaim said: Not debatable at all, the entire story exists because kuroko wants to prove that hard work can triumph over raw talent.tsudecimo said: Debateable. He never knew the feeling of loss or some shit, the whole "I have no presence" gimmick, and all that.Are you referring to Kuroko from Kuroko no Basket? If so, then he is hard working. Aomine and Kagami are the natural talent, although Kagami does his fair share of hard work. |
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WAD1992 said: I laughed way too hard on that! My parents came rampaging in my room because they were already asleep xDMilk_is_Special said: Ofcourse not, Gon is just really smart <.< well shows how mush you know!!! |
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| Natural talented protagonists give them the sorta cool vibe to them whereas hard working protagonists give the exact opposite vibe. You know like clumsy and goofy i guess? It would definitely remind you of Sasuke and Naruto. Either one is fine with me though. |
"Knowing more means having more shit to deal with, you know" - Hikigaya Hachiman  |
| I disagree, I think hard work comes with experiencing failure |
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| Hardworking protagonists with unnaturally fast growth for me. |
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VitaminCaim said: Well, it does.I disagree, I think hard work comes with experiencing failure |
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