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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- well that was fast i hope Rukia shows some Bankai when that fear mongering enemy is still alive on next chapter |
| "Dead" Rukia, literally. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| rukia still doesn't have bankai? half of me was disappointed |
| I was like "WTF" during all the chapter . But damn I love rukia so this chapter was good seeing her . |
| Rukia actually kind of creeped me out, probably because of the dead thing and all. I actually really liked how they went into detail with the temperature, instead of just saying like "YOU'RE FROZEN" it was straight up, "At this degree... I'm dead, now I can cut you, but you won't bleed, now you're dead, etc." |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
| That was so so dumb, it made no sense whatsoever. |
| Ah Bleach. The manga where Shinigami don't remember they're already dead, and where you can move in a state of absolute zero. |
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IndieDreamer said: That was so so dumb, it made no sense whatsoever. Care to elaborate? Exactly what didn't make sense? Not to attack you you or anything by the way. |
| Matsuoka Yoshitsugu has hardly any range as a voice actor, and is grossly over-cast. Yeah. I said it. |
| Well whatever... Let's put logic aside, this is manga after all. But on the other hand in this chapter Rukia looked kinda cool (see what I did there :D) And in the end where Nödt was frozen and was asking "This is fear?" was done nicely. |
TAK3Z0Feb 5, 2014 2:48 AM
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Blacklightcore said: Arlia said: Ah Bleach. The manga where Shinigami don't remember they're already dead, and where you can move in a state of absolute zero. My thoughts exactly. For the whole chapter I was wondering (and still am) whether I had misunderstood the fact that Shinigami were already dead... Dead in the real world, but alive in their world, can't forget that they can die too! Blacklightcore said: Ryuma00 said: But on the other hand in this chapter Rukia looked kinda cool (see what I did there :D) I think she acted rather coldly. Chill out man, it's part of her character. hue |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
Yato-kun said: rukia still doesn't have bankai? half of me was disappointed Who need bankai when you have power of Yamamoto's bankai? The only thing that differs that she use ice instead of fire. Well... now I'm interested what her bankai can do.... "fear". @chapter Where is *10* options in voting, this need 10/5 :D I really like this chapter. Starting from page with Rukia as "Snow white", here "death body" and freezing power. Few things that interest me. What is "Reishi"? Is this "the smallest thing in the Bleachverse"? How she can kill her body? If you kill yourself... and you are soul (shinigami) isn't it mean you "don't exist anymore"? What she did is similar to what Uryu has done when he was fighting with Mayuri ( http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Ransōtengai ). Uryu merely was controlling his body while his brain was still functioning (not death). Rukia, on other hands, froze whole body (?) and controlled it with speed high enough to kill (or at least heavily damage) Sternritter. One thing I can thing of is "21 grams" that contain "soul" of creature. In this Bleachverse, I think it can be the "smallest" thing that contain all *informations* about creature. This way Rukia can stay "alive", controlling her body from some other place. ps. why only 4 seconds? |
WannabitemeFeb 5, 2014 3:04 AM
| One of the better chapters in a while. Oh how I love Rukia and the fact that she is basically 'dead' is pretty cool. |
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| pure awesomeness i <3 you rukia obviously this fight can be over though if it is im gonna be pissed. cause like mask guy got how many chapters and as nodt is so much cooler but not as cool as rukia ;) im guessing next chapter as nodt will try to use byakuya's bankai against her. then rukia will bust out with a bankai. then as nodt will get his ass kicked some more then discard byakuya's bankai and use his vollstandig. if thats what happens then ill b really happy cause ill get to see rukia fight for at least 3 more chapters |
Kuro_Yuuki said: IndieDreamer said: That was so so dumb, it made no sense whatsoever. Care to elaborate? Exactly what didn't make sense? Not to attack you you or anything by the way. According to kubo all fear stem from the fear of death. Rukia does not fear death because her body temparature is lowered? could you explain the connection? also absolute zero means nothing is moving, rukia is moving so its not absolute zero. |
IndieDreamer said: Kuro_Yuuki said: IndieDreamer said: That was so so dumb, it made no sense whatsoever. Care to elaborate? Exactly what didn't make sense? Not to attack you you or anything by the way. According to kubo all fear stem from the fear of death. Rukia does not fear death because her body temparature is lowered? could you explain the connection? also absolute zero means nothing is moving, rukia is moving so its not absolute zero. this is a shonen manga it doesn't need to make sense also freezing a body actually slows/stops the death process but at a certain temperature they are basically considered dead because we dont have the technology to reverse cryogenic freezing. so she isnt so much dead as her body is so cold that her body no longer works. im guessing she is controlling her body with reishi like what uryu did when mayuri paralyzed him. |
| yeah okay, whatever.... At least the fight was over fast. That is assuming he actually is dead. But this is Bleach so this is not certain yet. |
| Seriously if you want to cry because this manga defy our world's physic you should have done so at the very first chapter. Some people amaze me, they read a manga where supernatural powers and gods of death exist yet they want explanation that would actually make it possible in our world. Arlia said: Ah Bleach. The manga where Shinigami don't remember they're already dead Ah Bleach. The manga where it's reader forget that Shinigami aren't in their dead human bodies and can get killed. Actually dying as a human is no big deal in Bleach since if you think about it you will either live in rukkongai until you get resuscitated or have enough reiatsu to enter the Shinigami academy. Dying as a Shinigami means the real end of your life though. You do not lose your physical body but your actual soul when you die as a Shinigami and you will not be resuscitated. If anything to die as a Shinigami is actually more frightening than dying as a human. |
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grandy_UiD said: yeah okay, whatever.... At least the fight was over fast. That is assuming he actually is dead. But this is Bleach so this is not certain yet. Doubt he's dead, he hasn't released his true power yet, remember how long it took for that annoying james to finally get killed by renji |
| Never settle with words what you can accomplish with a flame thrower. |
Shangetsu said: Seriously if you want to cry because this manga defy our world's physic you should have done so at the very first chapter. Some people amaze me, they read a manga where supernatural powers and gods of death exist yet they want explanation that would actually make it possible in our world. Arlia said: Ah Bleach. The manga where Shinigami don't remember they're already dead Ah Bleach. The manga where it's reader forget that Shinigami aren't in their dead human bodies and can get killed. Actually dying as a human is no big deal in Bleach since if you think about it you will either live in rukkongai until you get resuscitated or have enough reiatsu to enter the Shinigami academy. Dying as a Shinigami means the real end of your life though. You do not lose your physical body but your actual soul when you die as a Shinigami and you will not be resuscitated. If anything to die as a Shinigami is actually more frightening than dying as a human. this^ for example how the hell do souls bleed. if a soul were to die it wouldn't bleed to death if anything it would simply fade away. stop trying to rationalize everything and just enjoy the damn manga |
astrozombie84 said: this is a shonen manga it doesn't need to make sense It should make sense. Well, it's fantasy so it doesn't have to be similar to our word. To put it simply - it doesn't have to be 100% copy of our word. There could be "faster" speed of light, breast can omit bullets (Highschool of a dead) etc. In Bleachverse things make sense. Of course, there can be some things that doesn't make sense, but it's because it's mistake of author not because it's shonen. ps. as fair I remember, shonen doesn't have to be fantasy, so above post apply. IndieDreamer said: Kuro_Yuuki said: IndieDreamer said: That was so so dumb, it made no sense whatsoever. Care to elaborate? Exactly what didn't make sense? Not to attack you you or anything by the way. also absolute zero means nothing is moving, rukia is moving so its not absolute zero. You have a box. In the box you have a puppet. You move the box but the puppet stay "untouched". That's how Rukia moves her body, more or less. According to kubo all fear stem from the fear of death. Rukia does not fear death because her body temparature is lowered? could you explain the connection? Maybe it's little exaggerated but lots of people fear dieing, or what is after death. Take into account that anyone ( or 99%) of creatures doesn't know what is after they die. So saying that "all creatures fear death" is not "big deal" Rukia does not fear death because her body temparature is lowered? could you explain the connection? Rukia does not fear death because she is "death". Her shinigami body is "death". She control it via Reiatsu. |
| Explanation was too long, the whole shit talk about fear is unneeded, how come that dude started talking, and never stop? Was he this talkative before? Honestly that was rather trying-too-hard to be cool. "In fact, currently I am dead" "I learned to momentarily kill my body" -attack- "-18 degrees" "-50 degrees" "-273.15 degrees" "Absolute zero" "I am going to be fast, at this temperature, I can only move for 4 seconds" By the way, am I the only one, or is Rukia now better and stronger than Toshiya? -.- |
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| Rukia is awesome!!! XD Also, I've been wondering for a while now, what language/place does the quincies get their names from? |
Arlia said: Ah Bleach. The manga where Shinigami don't remember they're already dead, and where you can move in a state of absolute zero. LOL until the very last page i thought rukia's opponent was female... O_o |
mitch3315 said: Sasuke and Naruto kissed, show is obviously hardcore yaoi. |
Boredpplzzz said: Rukia is awesome!!! XD Also, I've been wondering for a while now, what language/place does the quincies get their names from? german teh_C said: Arlia said: Ah Bleach. The manga where Shinigami don't remember they're already dead, and where you can move in a state of absolute zero. LOL until the very last page i thought rukia's opponent was female... O_o alot of people thought that until kubo did that interview in Germany. |
| I really wish to see her Bankai >.< Umm, just wandering why is she fast at Absolute Zero? |
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| That was a boring ass fight, 16 pages of guys talking ending with a single slash, and after that we'll get a flashback where Kubo will explain to us that As Nodt wasn't as bad as we think it is, and that he has emotions and he acts this way because of his dark past or some bullshit like that. Also, LOL at Kubo trying to make scientific explanations in a manga full of asspulls. |
Arashi89Feb 5, 2014 5:30 AM
| Well it makes sense now how she was able to avoid the 'fear' since she wasn't 'alive' |
SorrowEnd said: I really wish to see her Bankai >.< Umm, just wandering why is she fast at Absolute Zero? What Rukia meant was that she has to be fast because her body can't take absolute zero temperature for longer than 4 seconds with her current reishi manipulation kido whatever thing. |
| So, Rukia's a frozen dead woman now? >__> That was way too easy. That battle can't be over yet. Kubo usually stretches a battle for at least 3 to 5 chapters. Why was this one so short? Where the hell is my boyfriend, Zaraki Kenpachi?! I'm getting tired of waiting, Kubo! Give him back to me now!! |
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k11chi said: SorrowEnd said: I really wish to see her Bankai >.< Umm, just wandering why is she fast at Absolute Zero? What Rukia meant was that she has to be fast because her body can't take absolute zero temperature for longer than 4 seconds with her current reishi manipulation kido whatever thing. Welp I guess I can take annual misread award XD |
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Hannah_Ana said: So, Rukia's a frozen dead woman now? >__> That was way too easy. That battle can't be over yet. Kubo usually stretches a battle for at least 3 to 5 chapters. Why was this one so short? It is unlike Kubo to have the battle over so quickly (assuming he is actually dead) but if it is over it would make sense to exemplify the power of Rukia's new ability. |
| It's a good ability for a zanpakuto imo but it's kinda repetitive the thing with being dead. Good chapter. |
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keiwa11 said: It's a good ability for a zanpakuto imo but it's kinda repetitive the thing with being dead. Good chapter. Yes, but it would also be repetitive if it turns out that he isn't dead even though he should be XD |
StarkSan said: keiwa11 said: It's a good ability for a zanpakuto imo but it's kinda repetitive the thing with being dead. Good chapter. Yes, but it would also be repetitive if it turns out that he isn't dead even though he should be XD this might actually happen next |
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| "who needs plot when you have new moves to explain (in each chapter, for each character)" - Tite Kubo |
| "Burn the heretics" |
k11chi said: SorrowEnd said: I really wish to see her Bankai >.< Umm, just wandering why is she fast at Absolute Zero? What Rukia meant was that she has to be fast because her body can't take absolute zero temperature for longer than 4 seconds with her current reishi manipulation kido whatever thing. I think what he mean was how could she still move fast when all her cells and whatever slowed down in the low temperature. I mean, the reason why we keep raw foods in the refrigerator was to slow down the metabolism. keiwa11 said: StarkSan said: keiwa11 said: It's a good ability for a zanpakuto imo but it's kinda repetitive the thing with being dead. Good chapter. Yes, but it would also be repetitive if it turns out that he isn't dead even though he should be XD this might actually happen next To be honest I am tired of that. ): |
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| Finally Rukia got her moment to shine, but I hope it's not cut short with Nodt surviving and defeating her. If that is the case then I hope she'll reveal her bankai and defeat him. |
ToG25thBaam said: k11chi said: SorrowEnd said: I really wish to see her Bankai >.< Umm, just wandering why is she fast at Absolute Zero? What Rukia meant was that she has to be fast because her body can't take absolute zero temperature for longer than 4 seconds with her current reishi manipulation kido whatever thing. I think what he mean was how could she still move fast when all her cells and whatever slowed down in the low temperature. I mean, the reason why we keep raw foods in the refrigerator was to slow down the metabolism. Its best not to think of science and Bleach at the same time, especially in this chapter. |
| Man, that was stupid. |
| That was interesting. I was hoping to see her Bankai, that is, if she's learned it. |
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| Guess what Ichigo's next ability is going to be? Well, as long as Kubo doesn't asspull this guy back to life with some bullshit, I'm fine. Also, it seems like Sode no Shirayuki is stronger than Hyourinmaru if what we saw in this chapter is her true power in shikai form. |
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bpSORE said: yhunata said: Also, it seems like Sode no Shirayuki is stronger than Hyourinmaru if what we saw in this chapter is her true power in shikai form. atm probably but i think hyorimaru will always be stronger . remember what kyoraku said that toshiro will be the strongest captain ever . he hasnt even reach his full potential yet with his zanpakuto . Well, considering Rukia doesn't even have Sode no Shirayuki's bankai, I'd say she hasn't reached her full potential either. |
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bpSORE said: yhunata said: bpSORE said: yhunata said: Also, it seems like Sode no Shirayuki is stronger than Hyourinmaru if what we saw in this chapter is her true power in shikai form. atm probably but i think hyorimaru will always be stronger . remember what kyoraku said that toshiro will be the strongest captain ever . he hasnt even reach his full potential yet with his zanpakuto . Well, considering Rukia doesn't even have Sode no Shirayuki's bankai, I'd say she hasn't reached her full potential either. true but in the end who gonna be the strongest ? the prodigy that come once in a lifetime toshiro or vice captain rukia who been bless with this much power already . but seeing rukia this strong after this chapter is amazing . We're not really comparing Hitsugaya with Rukia, but Hyourinmaru with Sode no Shirayuki. Hyourinmaru can control the weather, great. Sode no Shirayuki controls pretty much everything around it's user. I'd say Sode no Shirayuki is the stronger of the two, while Hitsugaya's ability as a prodigy will make him and Hyourinmaru stronger than Rukia and Sode no Shirayuki. |
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