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Ok why is it that everyone focuses on the negative comments remotely suggests something positive its ignored? You guys really do seem to bitch alot. Hell if I ever Conqured the world ( Which I will) you will all be the first to die. Yeah Genocide threat #8 of the week!

Because not everyone loves the story as much as you. -_- Gotta take it and roll with it. :P

No its every fucking manga and anime. To many fucking haters out there and i'm sick of it i'm a Naruto fan and have seen the ups and downs of the series but goddamn i'm pissed when I can't even freaking suggest one positive theory. You all are the freaking emos.

Mar 10, 2010 5:26 PM

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I actually liked Sasuke in that single frame where he goes WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU.

Because, really, what the fuck is wrong with him?

Jouten said:
Ok why is it that everyone focuses on the negative comments remotely suggests something positive its ignored? You guys really do seem to bitch alot. Hell if I ever Conqured the world ( Which I will) you will all be the first to die. Yeah Genocide threat #8 of the week!

BOO HOO PEOPLE HAVE GENUINE COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOUR FAVOURITE COMIC. IT MAKES YOU SO SAD IT JUSTIFIES MURDER

Stop your trolling, and either a) counter the complaints, or b) ignore them.

Mar 10, 2010 5:30 PM

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Kaiserpingvin said:
I actually liked Sasuke in that single frame where he goes WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU.

Because, really, what the fuck is wrong with him?

Jouten said:
Ok why is it that everyone focuses on the negative comments remotely suggests something positive its ignored? You guys really do seem to bitch alot. Hell if I ever Conqured the world ( Which I will) you will all be the first to die. Yeah Genocide threat #8 of the week!

BOO HOO PEOPLE HAVE GENUINE COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOUR FAVOURITE COMIC. IT MAKES YOU SO SAD IT JUSTIFIES MURDER

Stop your trolling, and either a) counter the complaints, or b) ignore them.

Just like I can't stop your bitch ass complaints you can't stop my angry ranting. God Naruto isn't even my favorite anime Gurren Lagann is but lately all I see is hate towards everything I watch. Killing annoying bitchy people is perfectly justifiably

Mar 10, 2010 5:32 PM

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Jouten said:
Just like I can't stop your bitch ass complaints you can't stop my angry ranting. God Naruto isn't even my favorite anime Gurren Lagann is but lately all I see is hate towards everything I watch. Killing annoying bitchy people is perfectly justifiably

a) this is about the manga, not the anime.
b) You are perfectly justified to complain about complaining, and I even said as much (that is, you can counter complaints). You are not completely justified to troll, which is what you are doing.
c) Why would you even care about people hatin' on everything you like? If you like it, that's that, and other people are just missing out.

Mar 10, 2010 5:40 PM

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Kaiserpingvin said:

Jouten said:
Just like I can't stop your bitch ass complaints you can't stop my angry ranting. God Naruto isn't even my favorite anime Gurren Lagann is but lately all I see is hate towards everything I watch. Killing annoying bitchy people is perfectly justifiably

a) this is about the manga, not the anime.
b) You are perfectly justified to complain about complaining, and I even said as much (that is, you can counter complaints). You are not completely justified to troll, which is what you are doing.
c) Why would you even care about people hatin' on everything you like? If you like it, that's that, and other people are just missing out.

Believe me its not just things I like. I'm a very open minded person but it just pisses me off the forums for everything degrade to hate. Why can't we have a discussion without being completely biased? I finally snapped with another thread of bashing and ignoring the overall plot. Theres only so much you can fit in a weekly chapter

Mar 10, 2010 5:45 PM

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Okay, since this for an obscure reason is hard for you to comprehend:

Threatening to kill people isn't discussing. You raised no point at all which was not just insults or trolling. You did not address anything except the fact that you were mad and bad and everyone else were fools, basically the verbal equivalent of punching someone in the face hoping for a fistfight.

Which is against the rules.

I'm not discussing with you, I am telling you the rules of the forum, since you evidently did not read them, despite being obliged to.

Mar 10, 2010 5:47 PM

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It would have been better if the weaksauce was tele'd out of there by Madara and have a Zetsu vs Kakashi match out of nowhere. LOL

Wow, my prediction from last chapter is almost bang on.

Mar 10, 2010 5:51 PM

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Fai said:
Whoever voted 5 out of 5 for this yaoi emo crap is a yaoi fangirl or should check their gender.

1/5

There's nothing to say about it, but facepalm.

Fai, emotion between two guys doesn't constitute homosexuality. It also appears that you dislike any sympathy for Sasuke. Let's stop for a minute. You just come home at the age of 7 and you find out your big brother, whom you love to death, has not only slaughtered your family, but your entire clan. Then your big brother makes you relive it all again for 24 hours. After that you spend your entire life tracking him down, then kill him to find out he was actually the good guy. Please tell me, how much of a fairy tale you would make your life afterwards? Because being traumatized that way would make anyone (besides Sasuke of course) just a ray of fucking sunshine. Naruto's been through a similar turn of events, of course he's going to sympathize.

Personally I liked the chapter. I give it a 3.5/5. I would have liked for Zetsu and Madara to stay out of this though. Don't really like either of them.

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Kaiserpingvin said:
Okay, since this for an obscure reason is hard for you to comprehend:

Threatening to kill people isn't discussing. You raised no point at all which was not just insults or trolling. You did not address anything except the fact that you were mad and bad and everyone else were fools, basically the verbal equivalent of punching someone in the face hoping for a fistfight.

Which is against the rules.

I'm not discussing with you, I am telling you the rules of the forum, since you evidently did not read them, despite being obliged to.

I'm threatening you because rules don't matter to me anymore . Theres is no discussion here anymore with the the constant bashing which isn't even just Naruto its alot of other manga and anime lately too. I posted something positive like there might be another timeskip that actually gets the plot moving but nope ignored and back to bashing.

Mar 10, 2010 5:53 PM

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Jouten said:

Grimmm said:

Jouten said:
Ok why is it that everyone focuses on the negative comments remotely suggests something positive its ignored? You guys really do seem to bitch alot. Hell if I ever Conqured the world ( Which I will) you will all be the first to die. Yeah Genocide threat #8 of the week!

Because not everyone loves the story as much as you. -_- Gotta take it and roll with it. :P

No its every fucking manga and anime. To many fucking haters out there and i'm sick of it i'm a Naruto fan and have seen the ups and downs of the series but goddamn i'm pissed when I can't even freaking suggest one positive theory. You all are the freaking emos.

Okay. Go on and complain then. Makes no difference to me.

~Done.

Mar 10, 2010 5:55 PM

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Grimmm said:

Jouten said:

Grimmm said:

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Ok why is it that everyone focuses on the negative comments remotely suggests something positive its ignored? You guys really do seem to bitch alot. Hell if I ever Conqured the world ( Which I will) you will all be the first to die. Yeah Genocide threat #8 of the week!

Because not everyone loves the story as much as you. -_- Gotta take it and roll with it. :P

No its every fucking manga and anime. To many fucking haters out there and i'm sick of it i'm a Naruto fan and have seen the ups and downs of the series but goddamn i'm pissed when I can't even freaking suggest one positive theory. You all are the freaking emos.

Okay. Go on and complain then. Makes no difference to me.

~Done.

Yeah your real funny -_O Your just a sheep that follows the herd

Mar 10, 2010 5:58 PM

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Jouten! You're not making a point. Obviously if they ignored you then, they're still going to ignore you now. You're as well as probably going to piss off some mods.

Mar 10, 2010 5:58 PM

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Lol nerdrage

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Jouten said:
Ok why is it that everyone focuses on the negative comments and when someone remotely suggests something positive its ignored? You guys really do seem to bitch alot. Hell if I ever Conqured the world ( Which I will) you will all be the first to die. Yeah Genocide threat #8 of the week!

Dude, just relax man, it's just an Internet forum.
This always happens when a chapter gets out. People comment right away with what's fresh in their minds. 90% of the posters don't even read the other posts.
You're just going to have to accept the fact that the general audience considers the current state of Naruto as crap. That's the way it is and no amount of yelling and screaming is going to change that.

That said, it's perfectly fine for you to still enjoy it. The fact that a hundred people bitch about it doesn't chance the enjoyment you get from every new episode and chapter now does it? Just relax, and have a little patience. Once the majority of the readers have had their chance to complain, they often leave the topic, giving you and other people that still enjoy the story a chance to discuss it more peacefully.

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mulderman said:

Jouten said:
Ok why is it that everyone focuses on the negative comments and when someone remotely suggests something positive its ignored? You guys really do seem to bitch alot. Hell if I ever Conqured the world ( Which I will) you will all be the first to die. Yeah Genocide threat #8 of the week!

Dude, just relax man, it's just an Internet forum.
This always happens when a chapter gets out. People comment right away with what's fresh in their minds. 90% of the posters don't even read the other posts.
You're just going to have to accept the fact that the general audience considers the current state of Naruto as crap. That's the way it is and no amount of yelling and screaming is going to change that.

That said, it's perfectly fine for you to still enjoy it. The fact that a hundred people bitch about it doesn't chance the enjoyment you get from every new episode and chapter now does it? Just relax, and have a little patience. Once the majority of the readers have had their chance to complain, they often leave the topic, giving you and other people that still enjoy the story a chance to discuss it more peacefully.

I see thar that you don't like Naruto :0

Mar 10, 2010 6:02 PM

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Lucjan said:
Jouten! You're not making a point. Obviously if they ignored you then, they're still going to ignore you now, as well as probably piss off some mods.

I really don't care at this point if this argument is in vain. if there are mods reading this then they suck at their job. I'm just not going to let every thread to end up as a bashing thread and act like a sheep and hate on Naruto because its cool €

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Lucjan said:
I see thar that you don't like Naruto :0

Yep, don't like it, haven't enjoyed it for the longest time. That doesn't mean other people can't still enjoy it though. Nothing wrong with that

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Jouten said:

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Jouten! You're not making a point. Obviously if they ignored you then, they're still going to ignore you now, as well as probably piss off some mods.

I really don't care at this point if this argument is in vain. if there are mods reading this then they suck at their job. I'm just not going to let every thread to end up as a bashing thread and act like a sheep and hate on Naruto because its cool €

You can't just delete posts because it may be bias. That isn't fair to the entire demographics. If you don't agree, you'll just have to step aside. And for the record Mulderman, the majority does like Naruto on account of its rating, and this chapters rating. They just don't say anything because people like Fai trolling the threads. And I completely accept your opinion. You're actually one of the ones who's civil about their rating.

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Lucjan said:

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Lucjan said:
Jouten! You're not making a point. Obviously if they ignored you then, they're still going to ignore you now, as well as probably piss off some mods.

I really don't care at this point if this argument is in vain. if there are mods reading this then they suck at their job. I'm just not going to let every thread to end up as a bashing thread and act like a sheep and hate on Naruto because its cool €

You can't just delete posts because it may be bias. That isn't fair to the entire demographics. If you don't agree, you'll just have to step aside. And for the record Mulderman, the majority does like Naruto on account of its rating, and this chapters rating. They just don't say anything because people like Fai trolling the threads. And I completely accept your opinion. You're actually one of the ones who's civil about their rating.

Yeah I don't see me just stepping aside. I'm to Stubborn for that.

Mar 10, 2010 6:09 PM

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I'm threatening you because rules don't matter to me anymore .

Telling a moderator you are not going to follow the rules you are obliged to keep to be allowed to post? You outright ask for a ban?

Most of the posts in this thread are ignored, regardless whether they are positive or not. Just look it through and check out how many posts are replied to. That's true of most any thread. Your ego might not fancy that, but if you really have a point worth raising, it is really smarter to raise it in a way which will lead people to entertain it, not in a way which leads to nothing but flames and bans.

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Lucjan said:
Jouten! You're not making a point. Obviously if they ignored you then, they're still going to ignore you now, as well as probably piss off some mods.

I really don't care at this point if this argument is in vain. if there are mods reading this then they suck at their job. I'm just not going to let every thread to end up as a bashing thread and act like a sheep and hate on Naruto because its cool €

okay, so.

There's not a rule against hating a show or manga.

There is a rule against insulting people.

I am giving you a warning, keep on with this, and measures will be taken. Normally I'd do this via PM but I see no point in this case.

Mar 10, 2010 6:17 PM

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Telling a moderator you are not going to follow the rules you are obliged to keep to be allowed to post? You outright ask for a ban? Most of the posts in this thread are ignored, regardless whether they are positive or not. Just look it through and check out how many posts are replied to. That's true of most any thread. Your ego might not fancy that, but if you really have a point worth raising, it is really smarter to raise it in a way which will lead people to entertain it, not in a way which leads to nothing but flames and bans.

I didn't insult anyone I threatened them but since I can't really actually do anything I will raise a point. The only way anyone truly listens on here is if its a bashing post and its true for the first 2-3 pages or so people don't reply but its still constant bashing. Just look at how messed up and biased the rating system is sometimes. Last chapter I couldn't pick even a single vote since it was tailored to piss fans off.

Mar 10, 2010 6:19 PM

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Wtf is this weird fight about anyway? GTFO nerds, mlol.

The manga gotten really gay. I can see from a great distance Naruto is trying to get Sasuke's ass... and get it good.

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Wtf is this weird fight about anyway? GTFO nerds, mlol.

The manga gotten really gay. I can see from a great distance Naruto is trying to get Sasuke's ass... and get it good.

The fight is about people like you. Read the last page or so

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Peralisc said:
Wtf is this weird fight about anyway? GTFO nerds, mlol.

The manga gotten really gay. I can see from a great distance Naruto is trying to get Sasuke's ass... and get it good.

You're unfortunately only proving Jouten's point.

Mar 10, 2010 6:29 PM

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Jouten said:
Telling a moderator you are not going to follow the rules you are obliged to keep to be allowed to post? You outright ask for a ban? Most of the posts in this thread are ignored, regardless whether they are positive or not. Just look it through and check out how many posts are replied to. That's true of most any thread. Your ego might not fancy that, but if you really have a point worth raising, it is really smarter to raise it in a way which will lead people to entertain it, not in a way which leads to nothing but flames and bans.

I didn't insult anyone I threatened them but since I can't really actually do anything I will raise a point. The only way anyone truly listens on here is if its a bashing post and its true for the first 2-3 pages or so people don't reply but its still constant bashing. Just look at how messed up and biased the rating system is sometimes. Last chapter I couldn't pick even a single vote since it was tailored to piss fans off.

You should just go blame the people who actually like the manga but instead decide not to post how much they like it so. God forbid someone has a different opinion than you.

And lol at e-threats.

Mar 10, 2010 6:33 PM

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I don't care about different opinions I care when there is no longer a discussion on a thread and just random people poping in and saying that was gay ( Ahem *Peralisc*) and tailoring the polls to suit your own interest doesn't seem very fair either.

Mar 10, 2010 6:37 PM

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It wasn't that bad at all. I thought it was a great chapter! Naruto's rlly matured now, dunno why people hate development in characters in manga.

S: Why do you care for me so much?
N: Because I'm your friend.

Naruto you're awesome ;_;

Mar 10, 2010 6:40 PM

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As expected. Madara shows up...but no Naruto poisoning yet...

Only good thing here was the mention of the Rinnegan...

Mar 10, 2010 6:41 PM

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Yeah, I completely forgot to mention on how Naruto seems to have matured incredibly. I don't how anything Naruto's said doesn't make him mature. He's chosen to shoulder the pain of his friend with him.

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A fight to the death, huh? Sounds wonderful.

Mar 10, 2010 7:39 PM

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Damn I thought Saucegay was EMO but Naruto stole the show in this chapter. We're gonna die together, you're my friend, I love you... bla bla bla! This manga is all screwed up now. :P This shit aint Shonen anymore!

Mar 10, 2010 7:41 PM

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Jouten said:
Why can't we have a discussion without being completely biased? I finally snapped with another thread of bashing and ignoring the overall plot. Theres only so much you can fit in a weekly chapter

Go read one piece if you want actual discussion. naruto is to far up the river to ever have a real discussion here

Mar 10, 2010 8:21 PM

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I thought Naruto would propose marriage to Sasuke. But anyways, haha! LOL! Die together? XD That's just hilarious.

Still, Sasuke's blind already right?

I still wonder about Madara and the Rinnegan, I think he have one eye with Rinnegan, and the other a Sharingan.

Mar 10, 2010 9:06 PM

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Lol did Naruto just confess his undying love to Sasuke or something? XD
Seriously. "I'll go with you to the end, even if I die!" If this isn't a love confession idk what is.

But as much as I enjoy all the NaruSasu crack, I must say, this is laaaaame.

Mar 10, 2010 9:16 PM

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Predictable.

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EMO to the max this chapter is....

Way to go Kubo, ruin Naruto's character even more than you did with the whole pain-kyuubi bullshit.

I dunno man. Naruto has always been that way. Seems like he's thinking straight to me.

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Oh and this chapter thread lacks unique poll opshuns :3

I do miss your epic polls though =P.

Mar 10, 2010 9:58 PM

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"Because I'm your friend."
Lols. xD I wonder how many times Naruto has said this...

Mar 10, 2010 10:08 PM

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Kinda got my hopes up when Naruto said, "Did you see what'll happen? If we fight again..." But I was trolled again. It's the same homo-erotic crap as usual.

...

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Lucjan said:
Fai, emotion between two guys doesn't constitute homosexuality.

NO but a gay emotion between a two guy who have been obsessed about each other for YEARS constitutes homosexuality
A gay emotion between two guys, one of which just proclaimed he WANTS TO DAI TOGEVA.
A gay emotion between two guys who perfectly fit the whole seme/uke stereotype.

Brokeback naruto~

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It also appears that you dislike any sympathy for Sasuke.

Yes i do.

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You just come home at the age of 7 and you find out your big brother, whom you love to death, has not only slaughtered your family, but your entire clan. Then your big brother makes you relive it all again for 24 hours. After that you spend your entire life tracking him down, then kill him to find out he was actually the good guy. Please tell me, how much of a fairy tale you would make your life afterwards?

Yes I would obviously blame EVERYONE who cared about me for it, go batshit insane and follow the man responsible for my clan's downfall, killing around anyone I meet and blabbering about darkness, darktears, HATE and RAaaaaaaaage.

That obviously makes sense. 8D

TBH is anyone else would have taken the hypocrisy emo path of Saucegay. they would have died, considering there would be no Kishimoto to give random plot powers :P

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Naruto's been through a similar turn of events, of course he's going to sympathize.

And yet one is hyperventillating, begging and crying about a boy-crush from few years ago.
And other is slaughtering random people blabbering about HAAATe...

Freud says its bullshit and the only way to explain their actions is to say that Kishimoto is Uwe Boll.

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at least bleach plot makes sense

Yeah because Shinigamis (Death gods) who are afraid of death makes sense. Hell even Byakuya's wife ended up dying in a sickness, and she was already dead.

But yeah, Aizen is the sex.

Let's see =D

The thingys you mentioned(That ARE explained inside the manga, as the SS people are not "just souls" they have "kind of" real bodies, age, get sick, die, their bodies become spirit particles in the air and their souls reincarnate back in earth)

VS

A masked one eyes man, in his way to put a huge weird eye on the moon to revive a uber evil thing, after getting rid of Badass characters like Pain, Orochimaru, Itachi and Danzou recruits an emo psycho and alone declares a war against entire world and main character says he will dai with aforementioned psycho. Sakura goes to cry.

Yes, Naruto's current "plot" makes soo much sense 8D

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Errr... lol so Naruto has found some conviction but despite all the ranting on his behalf Tobi is just going to take Sasuke away for now and then comes the wait until the next time they meet ...

Mar 11, 2010 12:29 AM

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Fai is the reason threads are biased.

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Jouten said:
Fai is the reason threads are biased.

Says the person with Naruto Avatar, naruto characters in favourites and 9/10 rating on shitpuudding

Mar 11, 2010 1:31 AM

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Seems like Fai will be needing quite alot of tampons.

Aside from the hilarious amount of seemingly homophobics around here.

Mar 11, 2010 1:56 AM

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Fai is a real asshole right now. I wouldn't comment on this if it was just a simple complaint.

His problem is about some naruto characters being gay. What's up with the discrimination? This is a free world and it's legal and it's also accepted as normal by todays society. So naruto and sasuke are pretty much gay and? Should gays be discriminated and completely excluded from animes because you don't like them?

Who are you anyway to judge? They kissed before, sure it was an innocent kiss, but this is how often a relation starts. Why are you such a hater for 2 fictional boys (naruto and sasuke) getting close to eachother?

I can't believe Fai is such a homophob and discriminates the anime just because of a gay couple.

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Mar 11, 2010 2:19 AM

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this has almost turned into a canon yaoi with a R&J twist .. good thing I started One Piece

Mar 11, 2010 2:40 AM

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Ok, you guys really don't see why people are complaining when the most recent chapter of a manga that started as a cool story about ninjas with well-developed characters and a lot of action is about the main character being told by what's supposed to be the main character that he will safe him from the darkness in his soul *sob, sob* or they will die together? *sob, sob, sob*... o.O

I'm not bashing. I would enjoy a good discussion. But really... where do you think the story will go from here? Sasuke attacking Konoha, Naruto fighting him, showing him that the path he's chosen is wrong and that there are people who love him (seriously, why didn't Hitler have a guy like Naruto around him?), then Naruto goes off to fight Madara but is too weak so Sasuke saves him, dying as a hero, paying for everything he's done. Naruto uses the hidden powers of the fox, kills Madara and becomes Hokage. The end. The moral is: war is bad, btw if someone ever becomes a lunatic with a strong desire to kill everyone around him, don't worry, he has people who love him and they'll make him a good guy again. And no matter how many people lose their lives because of him, the police should leave him alone, he's a good guy, the friends he tried to kill who-knows-how-many-times guarantee it!

Ok... Maybe I'm bashing just a little bit. Still, if you guys want to discuss something, don't see why people whose opinion you obviously don't respect would stop you.

Mar 11, 2010 2:55 AM

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Ok, You figure that Naruto would grow some balls and get even slightly pissed about the fact that Sasuke nearly killed the woman he loves. He is seriously a little limp dick fuck-tard

Mar 11, 2010 3:33 AM

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all i read in this chapter was "bla bla bla mr. freeman"
i don't really mean to say that it was bad, but i think it's about time to wrap up this whole manga. i was really looking forward to a fight between sasuke and naruto, and now look at what happened...

Mar 11, 2010 3:50 AM

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I actully really enjoyed this chapter though I have to wonder why people keep reading if they hate it so much it's kinda sad really.

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