What's the cruelest thing you've seen happen to a female character?

@Wyatt The word "sexism" gets thrown around a lot, except when it's actually applicable. 🙄

@hikari_night_god I'd need some examples. Naruto's backstory is that he was an orphan with no friends. Ichigo does not have a tragic backstory. Deku's backstory is that he was bullied for not having a quirk. Luffy has losing Sabo. None of this is gory. Sad, yes, but not gory. Ed Elric has a gory backstory, there's one. But not Goku, Gon, Natsu, Itadori Yuji, every JoJo protagonist except Jonathan (I'll give you him), Ginta, Ippo, Yugi, Conan, Light Yagami, You Asakura, Toriko. Eren has a gory backstory but it's the same gory backstory as his sister Mikasa and really Mikasa has two, since she also has her previous family, so that doesn't really work to your point. Tanjiro has his sister turned into a demon but his sister actually is the one that gets turned into a demon lol, so once again the suffering of women is seen as a tragedy for the man more than the woman, yes I know demon slayer is written by a woman.

Meanwhile I can think of plenty of women in these same manga that have legitimately gory and or sexual atrocities done against them. Hinata is beaten into a heart attack at 12 by her own cousin, and beaten into a bloody pulp at 16 by Pain, including Kishimoto detailing that her lungs are punctured and she pukes up blood. Nel in Bleach has her skull smashed in to the point of having a permanent massive scar on her head. Hiyori is gruesomely sliced in half, Rangiku has her stomach destroyed graphically. Here's a photo of that second one: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fljzqr0d7dsec1.png

Death Note has Misa who is so in love with light that she kills herself after he dies. It also has that lady in episode 7 who is the smartest character in the whole show and finds out who Light is basically immediately so she also kills herself (by virtue of the death note), and horribly at that. Naruto, One Piece, Bleach and more are all allergic to having a woman win a fight ever. I'm not sure they ever do win against a man, with the exception of Robin defeating that who even cares fat guy in Skypeia in half a chapter, and Sakura and Granny Chiyo teaming up to beat Sasori (two women together can beat a man!). Here's a fun one for you: Choji being fat is treated as a lovable quirky quality, and in fact helps him with his ninja abilities which revolve around rolling people over, but Anko getting fat is treated as a punchline. I don't hate these manga but it's silly to act like they're not sexist at all.

@Wyatt shounen manga is very very sexist. It is annoying. But doesnt the mc get beaten up by the tsundere for no reason? I wasnt saying men suffer more or whatever. Both men and women have it awful, the problem is when it is glorified. And you are right, just when i feel like imma finally see a woman kick ass, but then the mangaka is just not having it...😅

Stabbing an idol to death just because she had kids at a young age? That's the cruelest thing can happen to a female character I can think of.

I don't think it's excessive at all, I think it just shows undue preference from Fujimoto towards Denji's psychological state over that of the female characters. We are getting too caught up on Chainsaw Man though. This is about sexism in anime in general.

"I hate to break it to you, but Power being abandoned naked in the woods was not the point of the scene, let alone it being about the woman she possessed, which btw"
That is my exact point. It is revealing of how unconcerned Fujimoto is with the real dangers of being a woman because he uses them as an unimportant plot device to set up some fanciful little story about a cat.

@hikari_night_god Tsunderes usually hit men in a very silly way, it's not played for gruesomeness, its more of a fetish for men really. But if you watch Toma hit women in Index its like so physical, they really animate their bones and muscles morphing and twisting around his fist like a real violent punch: https://youtu.be/2EdHqYKfhNc

Glad you get it. It's freaking me out how many people in this thread seem to think no anime are sexist...

I'm just going to list some anime with fucked up scenes involving women suffering with no further context:

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Mnemosyne no Musume-tachi
Elfen Lied
Corpse Party: Tortured Souls
Another
Shiki
Made in Abyss
Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
Gantz
Devilman: Crybaby
Happy Sugar Life
Bake Yamori
Violence Jack
Head Tray
Shoujo Tsubaki
Blood-C
A Kite
Houseki no Kuni (technically they're genderless not female, but felt worth including)

Nobody thinks that. We simply don't think that every anime is sexist like you do.

Again, the MC gettnig the most attention in his own story does not prove undue preference over other characters


So Power, the fiend who's deprived of any social connection learning what connecting and caring for another living being means, is just some fanciful little story about a cat because the past of the woman she possesses (which is not relevant to the plot or Power's character developement) is not explored?

I'm sorry, but the fact that you can't see the detail and importance that's given to a character's psychological state just because it doesn't tackle the themes you want it to doesn't mean it's not there


And i'm sorry, but i don't see all this sexism left right and center, i know there's some cases of men writing female characters just for the sake of making them suffer, just as there's women who write male characteres just for the saje of making them suffer, but theses are nowhere near the majority of anime


edit: reading your other posts

How is Nezuko turning into a demon more tragic for Tanjiro than for her? Did you ever stop and think that maybe such things are just as traumatic for the person living them as those witnessing them?

And speaking of greusome past and injuries, did you casually forget Kurapika witnessing his clan get annihilated and Killua being psychologically and physically abused by his family? Levi growing up malnourished in the filth of the underground and later getting blown to bits slicing his face up and losing fingers? Iguro's scar from getting mutilated by his family maybe? Or maybe Muichiro watching his twin brother bleed to death after getting attacked by a demon to then start getting eaten alive by maggots cuz he can't bare to leave his brother's side? Need i give more examples?

Why is that the woman she possessed's backstory lol? Power could have easily possessed a woman who was buried normally in a grave and her past would never have to be relevant. Though I could see the argument that it is actually feminist to present how common this kind of death is for women, I think it could have been done better. But as I said Chainsaw Man is one of the least sexist popular series.


If my wife got into a car accident and was paralyzed, I would not be the real victim there. It would be awful and life ruining for me too, but she is still the person who would be "the real victim".

@logopolis we’re talking specifically about anime which I do think is particularly bad with this, but yeah it’s true about other forms of media too.

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