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Hetment said: Othi-tan said: Projection itself isnt an asspull since The problem is with how Shirou gets so good at it.The PVs of the second cour mention the Origin.It's easier to assume that they will explain it than they wont. I dont deny the lack of monologues.I deny the damage people claim they do. What VN readers seem to think is that Nasu and Miura's approach isnt good.Sorry but I will disagree with the fans.Shirou's issues have been explained,his conflict has been shown, and from here on it is his development only,no more char establishment. That it lacks all the "beautiful" and redundant monologues doesnt make animeShirou different from Vn Shirou. That is the problem.Some VN readers compare the anime and VN too much and only see what was cut or changed.They dont care if the results are better(Rin's foreshadowing) or if casuals do get Shirou with the few scenes we have. Their issue is that it isnt like the VN they know about and they shove words into casual's mouths. The casuals dont care if Vn readers are happy taht they(casuals) can enjoy it.What I see is a forum full of people's positive reactions buried under the constant bitching of one or two VN readers.That harms the enjoyment of the casuals more than the adaptation not being close to ideal. I agree that some people nitpick it to the extremes... but as I said they have their VALID reasons. And if your own entertainment gets spoiled by others.... you need to work on that aspect as there will ALWAYS be someone not liking it. That's the thing about us humans. Not everyone is same and tbh no one should be same. That's why I always get pissed at people wanting SAME protagonist type for every anime ( edgy darklord >.>...) And you missed my point dude. I said, TILL now projection of Shirou looks strange. I said the thing about assumptions. I made some assumptions. time will tell how ufotable delivers on it. No use for both you AND me saying- ' This WILL happen' Both of us are on 'may happen'. you say anime will turn out perfectly fine. I say it will turn out great. But both of us arent 100% sure. You again dont get the actual gist about monologue. NO ONE ( not even Cooking Priest as i read some of his posts) said bring ALL monologues. I said it earlier, VN fans KNOW the limits. What we wanted was to shorten the monologues, to introduce ONLY the important part... But some monologues have ALOT of important stuff. THERE ufotable shortened it too much. His monologues arent redundant as such. You are confusing normal thinking of Shirou with his thinking in situations like battles and self realization. Nobody wants ALL monologues as they also include Shirou's 'healthy teenager' stuff. We just want the relevant stuff. And you, being a VN reader, will agree that there is ALOT of that... and ufo showed it less. Again I say, if a casual is going to harm his enjoyment due to OTHERS , getting depressed that this isnt the best, then he needs to work on this lol. See, I dont encourage such extreme nitpicking that somehow happens here. What I want to say is that if a casual gets sadden on such reactions, and thinks that this isnt the best he is receiving of FSN, he can go read the novel then to see for himself. Like I said, it's your OWN enjoyment. Dont let others hamper it. shirou never let other people hamper his ideal, so yeah be like him in this respect only xD I agree anime may had some more brilliant moments but it had some where VN surpassed it by long. Some scenes, EFFECT of some scenes, they vary. FSN relies alot on building the atmosphere. Again, I say- I like this adaptation, just that more could be done to improve it. It's GREAT but not the BEST I didnt say ALL monologues.I said that we DO have the lines and scenes we need to characterize Shirou.People are bitching not because they dont exist at all but because they pretend to know that all casuals will miss them,so we need even more. Liek with Shirou coming out of the cover when Caster was threatening him and Rin them.Some were shitting on ufo for not putting a flashback of Caster's power show in the temple to REMIND people of her powers.It isnt needed.If people forget stuff that happened 3 weeks ago it inst ufo's fault. |
| Shirou's back being Shirou...felt like there was no break at all. |
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WolfWood37 said: Shirou's back being Shirou...felt like there was no break at all. It was 4 months too long a break for me. UBW withdrawal symptoms are something I'd hate to experience again xD |
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| Pretty fun episode. Great to have the action back! |
| 30 fucking pages, seems like im late to the party. Oh well maybe ep 3. Oh the episode, it was good but the OP is easily the best this year has to offer atm. |
HeatBurn said: you didnt miss too much...unless you really want to see the ongoing civil war between the salt apostles and the hype ancestors...30 fucking pages, seems like im late to the party. |
| fsn:ubw = Gilgamesh. |
HeatBurn said: it was good but the OP is easily the best this year has to offer atm. With Kekkai Sensen,Punch Line,Sidonia and Plastic Memories existing. No. Just no. |
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CookingPriest said: Punch line's OP is shitHeatBurn said: it was good but the OP is easily the best this year has to offer atm. With Kekkai Sensen,Punch Line,Sidonia and Plastic Memories existing. No. Just no. I agree with the rest tho |
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| Just looking at incredibly sexualized/fanservicy position Saber was in is all the evidence I need to know this season is going to be just as mediocre as the first. Not to mention the generic as all hell tsundere Rin "bbbbbbbbbbbb-BAKA" |
SimmianPrime said: Just looking at incredibly sexualized/fanservicy position Saber was in is all the evidence I need to know this season is going to be just as mediocre as the first. Lol, it isn't fanservice. It's a legit thing. Here, have a doujin: (NSFW) |
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mira-nyan said: SimmianPrime said: Just looking at incredibly sexualized/fanservicy position Saber was in is all the evidence I need to know this season is going to be just as mediocre as the first. Lol, it isn't fanservice. It's a legit thing. Here, have a doujin: (NSFW) Compelling arguement. |
mira-nyan said: SimmianPrime said: Just looking at incredibly sexualized/fanservicy position Saber was in is all the evidence I need to know this season is going to be just as mediocre as the first. Lol, it isn't fanservice. It's a legit thing. A legit fanservice thing. |
| actually what is Caster doing to Saber? the episode is very blur about that *not referring to that doujin |
SimmianPrime said: what else do you expect from an adaptation of a porn gamemira-nyan said: Lol, it isn't fanservice. It's a legit thing. A legit fanservice thing. WARNING NSFW |
klaymore said: not as much as you might think. she's using the dress to mentally break saber. It's a thing from her backstory "the poisoned wedding dress". though apparently there is gonna be some anime original fondling in the BD release ver....as far as her position goes well saber and given saber's identity is a symbol of perfection and purity. Caster is jealous of this because she was always dragged into the dirt so she wants to drag saber down.actually what is Caster doing to Saber? the episode is very blur about that *not referring to that doujin |
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SimmianPrime said: mira-nyan said: Lol, it isn't fanservice. It's a legit thing. A legit fanservice thing. klaymore said: actually what is Caster doing to Saber? the episode is very blur about that *not referring to that doujin She's trying to break her pride. That's literally all it is. From VN: |
mira-pyonApr 15, 2015 8:00 PM
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mira-nyan said: She's trying to break her pride. That's literally all it is. That's the excuse the porn game and the anime use. But it's really just fanservice. |
| just to put it out there, this may have also been overlooked but. Saber's capture happened just the previous day. in case your wondering how long she's actually been held captive and why caster hasnt turned her over yet. |
SimmianPrime said: implying the adaptation of a porn game needs an excusemira-nyan said: She's trying to break her pride. That's literally all it is. That's the excuse the porn game and the anime use. But it's really just fanservice. |
SimmianPrime said: mira-nyan said: She's trying to break her pride. That's literally all it is. That's the excuse the porn game and the anime use. But it's really just fanservice. WrongPriest said: klaymore said: actually what is Caster doing to Saber? the episode is very blur about that *not referring to that doujin Apparently she grabs some handfuls of Saber before she gets interrupted by Kuzuki but that's BD only. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Saber's still resisting the command seal Caster used back on the bridge, that itself is agony so Caster is "torturing" her to get her to break. Medea has a thing for wedding dresses, if you read her legend you'll understand why she likes seeing wedding dress clad girls in pain. No it isn't, it's fact. And if you can't listen to fact, then you're just a baka secondary. >:I Kinda like Mira. What?  |
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WrongPriest said: SimmianPrime said: That's the excuse the porn game and the anime use. But it's really just fanservice. It's a porn game lol, if they wanted to have Caster finger banging Saber they could have just showed it. But no, believe it or not it actually serves a purpose, apart from so off-hand remarks from archer it's one of the few scenes that connects Medea to her legend. Although that didn't stop me from having a boner. Now to wait for the HF movies to post the Sakura one =3 |
mira-pyonApr 15, 2015 8:08 PM
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| I did not grant that Witch permission to taint my Best Treasure. (Fate route spoiler) |
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ZeroDragon said: I did not grant that Witch permission to taint my Best Treasure. (Fate route spoiler) |
ZeroDragon said: this hurts me to see. from the looks of things shinji is your new best reasure. CAN SERVANTS KILL SHINJI?I did not grant that Witch permission to taint my Best Treasure. (Fate route spoiler) |
Maloghurst said: ZeroDragon said: this hurts me to see. from the looks of things shinji is your new best reasure. CAN SERVANTS KILL SHINJI?I did not grant that Witch permission to taint my Best Treasure. (Fate route spoiler) He is a vassal that shall hold a particular treasure in time. |
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| Episode that leaves me a little confused, should I say dissatisfied, although this is not really a beginning but a continuation; that's why the atmosphere was not so exciting. Not so for designs for the sets, really wonderful as quality. |
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terrablu2003 said: what was confusing?Episode that leaves me a little confused, should I say dissatisfied, although this is not really a beginning but a continuation; that's why the atmosphere was not so exciting. Not so for designs for the sets, really wonderful as quality. |
| That sexy pose of Saber, poor girl A wonderful continuation of the story with breathtaking scenes drawn out I like the way Archer betrayed Rin in a way he actually protected them Shirou x Rin happening! |
| Saber is so lewd in that position.. and why is she wearing that dress? Archer class still my favorite Hero class like in Fate/Zero and now it looks like blondie will join the fight later. Did Shirou finally confess to Tohsaka? yay |
WrongPriest said: But no, believe it or not it actually serves a purpose, apart from some off-hand remarks from archer it's one of the few scenes that connects Medea to her legend. Although that didn't stop me from having a boner. Wait... It does? Don't get me wrong, the witch of the legend was most certainly insane, but I hardly picture her having fun watching a young girl getting continually raped by some invisible magical dick. Aside from the wedding dress, which is a nice callback to the gift she offered to Creusa, I don't really see it. It's fanservice and u know it, Wrong-kun; accept the truth |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
GangstaPriest said: WrongPriest said: But no, believe it or not it actually serves a purpose, apart from some off-hand remarks from archer it's one of the few scenes that connects Medea to her legend. Although that didn't stop me from having a boner. Wait... It does? Don't get me wrong, the witch of the legend was most certainly insane, but I hardly picture her having fun watching a young girl getting continually raped by some invisible magical dick. Aside from the wedding dress, which is a nice callback to the gift she offered to Creusa, I don't really see it. It's fanservice and u know it, Wrong-kun; accept the truth Caster's Legend has nothing to do with her backstory in Nasuverse. I already answered on how it connects in question threaD: (obviously spoilers) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1347585&show=350#msg39368395 |
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CookingPriest said: Well, it still kinda does, because most of the facts you've listed definitely are existing versions of her myth, but the last two bits about Saber reprensenting purity and Caster torturing her out of self-loathing and to prove the purest can be broken does make sense (even though it sounds more like your own interpretation than what we actually got from the story, but whatevah).GangstaPriest said: Wait... It does? Don't get me wrong, the witch of the legend was most certainly insane, but I hardly picture her having fun watching a young girl getting continually raped by some invisible magical dick. Aside from the wedding dress, which is a nice callback to the gift she offered to Creusa, I don't really see it. It's fanservice and u know it, Wrong-kun; accept the truth Caster's Legend has nothing to do with her backstory in Nasuverse. I already answered on how it connects in question threaD: (obviously spoilers) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1347585&show=350#msg39368395 My only gripe with the scene is that it didn't seem to fit Medea's "style" nor to serve any other purpose besides fanservice, but again you brought up some fair points with your explanation. I'll let the yuri fans 'gasm in peace now. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Ugh, Rin and Shirou interactions are as awful as ever. I'm not sure if I can handle it, it seems to be progressively getting worse. This betrayal feels very wishy washy, whether it's for real or a pretend. Meh start. 3/5 |
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Adramelech said: Why did Caster have Saber in that dress, bent over like that and her skirt rolled up to her waist. And the garter stockings... Lol, why? At least show it from behind fools! Blame them for not doing Caster's backstory justice. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1347585&show=350#msg39368395 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_dress |
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| I don't know why i bother reading the comments. its always just the VN fans frothing at the mouth. Ugh. Anyway, that felt really rushed. It was super fast, but WOW that random confession! And it goes almost ignored. lmao. I'm glad i waited till it was finished airing to start it. |
| Be sure to message me if you quoted me and want me to respond! Just give me a link to the forum, because usually I leave my comment, then leave the forum. |
Rebelhero said: since your flowing through the epsidoes i imagine you can catch a lot of bits and what not that are easy to miss watching week by week.I don't know why i bother reading the comments. its always just the VN fans frothing at the mouth. Ugh. Anyway, that felt really rushed. It was super fast, but WOW that random confession! And it goes almost ignored. lmao. I'm glad i waited till it was finished airing to start it. the confession want really random....at least it should not have been... |
Maloghurst said: the confession want really random....at least it should not have been... Nor was it ignored ....at least it should not have been... |
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| Pretty good episode, moved at a brisk pace. The scenes transitioned well enough into the anime, I think. Kind of get the feeling that what triggered the betrayal was Rin saying that maybe Shirou could get Saber back. I don't really remember exactly how that played out in the VN, but the way this was handled felt kind of different to me. To be honest, I kind of like it better than the VN where his betrayal just felt out of the blue for me and not in a necessarily good way. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3Inquisitor said: Rin didnt mention anything about saber in the VN....in fact she was still talking around archer knowing what he could have done so when he had actually betrayed her there was no foreseeable reason for him to do so at the time...Pretty good episode, moved at a brisk pace. The scenes transitioned well enough into the anime, I think. Kind of get the feeling that what triggered the betrayal was Rin saying that maybe Shirou could get Saber back. I don't really remember exactly how that played out in the VN, but the way this was handled felt kind of different to me. To be honest, I kind of like it better than the VN where his betrayal just felt out of the blue for me and not in a necessarily good way. and welcome back. |
Maloghurst said: insan3Inquisitor said: Rin didnt mention anything about saber in the VN....in fact she was still talking around archer knowing what he could have done so when he had actually betrayed her there was no foreseeable reason for him to do so at the time...Pretty good episode, moved at a brisk pace. The scenes transitioned well enough into the anime, I think. Kind of get the feeling that what triggered the betrayal was Rin saying that maybe Shirou could get Saber back. I don't really remember exactly how that played out in the VN, but the way this was handled felt kind of different to me. To be honest, I kind of like it better than the VN where his betrayal just felt out of the blue for me and not in a necessarily good way. and welcome back. Not to mention the betrayal was far more dickish and fitting of archer's character(lure Rin with no indications he wont fight then suddenly going "nope we cant win this"), instead of this whitewashed version. |
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Maloghurst said: insan3Inquisitor said: Rin didnt mention anything about saber in the VN....in fact she was still talking around archer knowing what he could have done so when he had actually betrayed her there was no foreseeable reason for him to do so at the time...Pretty good episode, moved at a brisk pace. The scenes transitioned well enough into the anime, I think. Kind of get the feeling that what triggered the betrayal was Rin saying that maybe Shirou could get Saber back. I don't really remember exactly how that played out in the VN, but the way this was handled felt kind of different to me. To be honest, I kind of like it better than the VN where his betrayal just felt out of the blue for me and not in a necessarily good way. and welcome back. Yeah, at least for now, I kind of like this better. Yep, wanted to get all the episodes together before going through it. Read the first several pages of this thread and oh boy. Won't even touch that. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3Inquisitor said: needless to say ever since the club fiascos and TYPE-BD touched ground and TYPE-Blogs burst into the atmosphere and flooded it with salt grains things have gotten far far more...out of control..Maloghurst said: Rin didnt mention anything about saber in the VN....in fact she was still talking around archer knowing what he could have done so when he had actually betrayed her there was no foreseeable reason for him to do so at the time... and welcome back. Yeah, at least for now, I kind of like this better. Yep, wanted to get all the episodes together before going through it. Read the first several pages of this thread and oh boy. Won't even touch that. |
| Not really sure what you are talking about with the blogs and BD's, I'm so out of touch. Not sure if I want to know until after I finish the series, though. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Have you watched the Bluray version for the 1st cour BTW? You should, as they removed the dimming in the action scenes and added a couple of new scenes in episodes 0,1 and 12. Watching UTW's subs are more than recommended. |
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