Kaijuu 8-gou 2nd Season Episode 4 Discussion

here we go another midruto fan saying every fight scene is crap gtfo negative pr.ck

Some of that fight animation was pretty bleh

Kinda crazy a kaiju can just infiltrate THE headquarters and sweep the floor like that

Yep, the typical shounen trope where the old head from the previous generation has to give it his all one last time, basically sacrificing himself to raise the stakes... which, for this show, will actually work because up until now there have been quite literally none. Plus, well, I mean, Isao is like the only good character in this show, plus he’s just cool to watch fight in general xD

Though, knowing this show, I’d expect something more like him becoming incapacitated and unable to carry on his duties, because him dying at this point wouldn’t really make sense for anyone’s development. But at the same time, like I said, stakes are needed, so it really does feel like this is it for Commander. Fighting with #9 definitely proved to be a fatal mistake.

Better episode than the previous 3 this season (which weren't good). I'm always a sucker for parent-child moments. Glad the father acknowledged he wasn't a good dad, but what an awful thing to have to be regretting while you die?

"I'm going to make this a better world for my daughter." Jfc, why is this season so corny? The best buds fist bump. The power of friendship, trust in your colleagues allows you to finally transform. The "late" joke from kikoru to Kafka. Just bad. Season 1 wasn't like this

I don't get why it took Kafka so long to arrive at the fight. He was literally caught and passed by the annoying captain guy. We just ignoring Kafka abilities from season 1? They don't exist anymore? And shit, we were led to believe he was only scratching the surface of what he could do

Why is their command center in a fucking tent? I mean WTactualF is that?!

These side characters are horrible compared to season 1

Kafka's fights aren't cool or fun or exciting. There's no cool shot/frame like in season 1. No epic music to make the moment even better

Something about #9 is just weird. His character and clones are both intelligent and dumb at the same time. He just magically appears in the command center. Other than season 1 glasses girl, the command center crew are nameless and faceless. We never see them. We have no attachment. Way less interesting than when he made his multiple entrances last season (first appearance - through the dust with kikoru, second appearance - disguised as cleanup crew, third appearance - during the giant mushroom fight).

Last season was a progression. Most things were actually developed (world building, character development, the plot). This season is just A happens, then B happens, then C happens. With little development at all in between. It lacks excitement, interest, and impact

Like, oh, OK, this random computer guy wants to stick around and be a hero. Well, never seen him before. Don't expect we'll ever see him again (but TBD). I don't know him or care about him. And to make it worse, he starts talking about all of these suit/weapon functions that had never been mentioned before. Just felt like the author randomly flinging new stuff at the wall to make it seem "cool" when it really isn't. Computer guy didn't serve a necessary role for the story, nor do I think he added anything. It was filler

And #9 eating weapons to get stronger? I get that #10 said he could get stronger by eating hoshina, right? So the idea of eating someone and gaining their strength isn't new. But hoshina has a kaiju weapon, too, I thought? Or is his weapon not a "numbered" weapon? ... I think, logically, I'm ok with what #9 did here. It seems to largely conform to what we already knew. But there was something about it i didn't like. I'm constantly left feeling like something is just missing from this season

But because this episode was decent (I'll say 7/10), I'll bump my season score up from 5.5/10 to 6/10

Tears in my eyes man this was the best Kaiju 8 episode to this point. The ultimate measure of a man is how he responds to adversity. Isao’s concern for his daughter and men told me everything I need to know about him. What a man. The final stand trope might be done ad nauseam in fiction idc, when done right, it will always make me cry.

I knew number 9 wouldn’t go down that easily, but I didn’t expect him to have faked out the entire defense force like that. Shows you how much he’s developed tactically where he could pull off such a feint. Nothing but respect to the director for giving absolutely everything in that fight. The faith he had in the younger generation to clean everything up and keep the country safe.. and the way his last thoughts were of Kikoru and the promise he made to his wife.. 😢 that’s how you get me to cry

I’m so mad no one got there in time to hit 9’s core which would’ve ended this all, damn it! I’m hoping by some miracle Isao isn’t fully dead, but he looked gone there.. how are the defense force gonna handle 9 now that he’s even stronger having merged with Kaiju 2.. there’s still whatever secret weapon Isao had the force working on, but this looks bad.

Some of that fight animation was pretty bleh

Kinda crazy a kaiju can just infiltrate THE headquarters and sweep the floor like that

Yeah, I knew No. 9 wouldn't go down so easily. The last episode made it seem too easy. Ig it's pretty much confirmed No. 9 can just clone itself and those other kaijus were just his clones and not separate kaijus like I thought they could be. Pretty underhanded tactics.

I thought Isao was a shitty father and well he kind of was but I was happy to see him finally praise Kikoru. Then that SOB 9 had to kill him... It was a great fight and now at least he can rest with his wife... Assuming there's no chance to revive him after 9 absorbed him. I think it would've been really cool if Isao became a transforming kaiju like Kafka but sadly that didn't happen. It would've been pretty funny to see him in that situation after how much he detested Kafka in the last season. It's a shame that he couldn't spoil Kikoru like his late wife wanted. He was tough on her probably to fulfill her mother's wishes and cause he wanted Kikoru to become formidable. Feel bad for Kikoru.

This was a great episode. Best episode of the season yet.

Yeah that too. Guy wasn't so bad.

@Zudoba It's not like Tokyo Ghoul where they'd have stuff that detects the monster (though even that is technically subverted later on with particular specimens, I think) If the kaiju can just infiltrate, they have to impose stricter security measures in future

@Zudoba the episode was visually stunning your literally into nothing bud

@holdingnothing True enough, they couldn't tell Hibino was a kaijuu even though he was right in front of all the commanders at various points. Not addressing that issue after what just happened would be crazy, even though I doubt No. 9 would bother now that he's so powerful.

Kafka, who was able to transform into the kaiju in the infront of kikoru, exerts his original power and overwhelms the kaiju no.9. With the success of Narumi, kikoru, and Kafka, the first unit proved its ability as the strongest unit envisioned by Isao Shinomiya, the head of the Japanese Defense Force. However, the afterglow of victory also suddenly sounds an alarm, and the kaiju disappears with a disturbing word, leaving a disturbing word saying, "The power of the mighty kaiju will be gone." The biggest crisis in the history of the defense comes!
Isao-San 😭, your sacrifice will not be in vain I hope....
Never thought this .
This time I couldn't even enjoy the "Hosina Night" because of the incident😢.

I don't know if it's mixing or something, but this series has extremely weak sound design (especially anything that involves impacts) and very uninspiring, mid music tracks.

Kaiju no. 9's voice is so annoying that it's distracting me from the episode. No issues with the VA, the filtering and effects over the voice make me hate listening to it.

@Zudoba Him being in front of them if he was in full kaiju cowl would mean they can't tell by his face, but if his face was exposed, that'd be another thing. Unless it's some weird situation like how Flash vibrates his face to conceal his identity (which I think started in the John WEsley Shipp series)

Addressing the second half… Well to be fair to the Defense Force, there are no obvious signs that a person is inhabited by Kaiju No.9. Sure, we saw his awkwardness in inhabiting the first two bodies (the cleaner and the man from the car) but they haven’t had to deal with this sort of threat before so I bet they don’t have the technology to closely monitor or test for that. I wonder if this will set a new precedent for tech where they have some sort of bio scanner detecting possible Kaiju parasites. But, remembering what they said (I think in the first season, last episode) about not wanting to spread mass panic. I feel like if there are orders/commissions for tech that detects Kaijus inhabiting a human body there would be info leaks. The researchers, assemblers and even janitors working on site could go home and tell their family, friends, etc. Of course there are NDA’s and I bet the Defense Force has access to specialized secretive manufacturers but still.