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Jul 12, 11:43 PM

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based OP all your point is true. its pretty convienient story to just show shock to viewers and emotional manipulation that is not executed properly. tldr it is overhyped


Jul 14, 1:20 PM

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@JoeChip You seem mad too, responding multiple times and apparently not realizing that it was a bad faith argument from the start

People say "oh it's just an opinion" as if it was presented remotely respectfully and not meant to police the scores people give. And people like you eat it up and act surprised when people aren't so happy with that

Every piece of media tries to make the viewer feel things, that's how it works. The poster said nothing profound, this was just a post to complain about an anime getting a good score. We've reached a point where anything trying to be deep is labeled as cheap and cringe and anything trying to be fun is too shallow
@WHoAreYou1

I can see why Kaguya-sama is your most favorite anime.
Jul 14, 3:19 PM
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Imagine rating anime 10/10 because it's full of pain, sorrow and dark theme
Jul 14, 3:45 PM
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Cry harder looooooooool
Jul 14, 4:26 PM

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exactly. dramaturgy here is insanely poor; and, of course, the worse the plot and setting are, the better the grade (again and again). the blind leading the blind...
Jul 15, 2:55 AM
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after seeing some spoilers scrolling across social media, I have no desire to watch this.
Jul 15, 2:42 PM

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i aint reading allat
 



SEIBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Jul 15, 8:41 PM

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I've read the manga and it's honestly not a 10, however, you sounds like an anime only who's being too critical way too early, and your arguments are mostly nitpicky, there are better objective arguments than your nitpicky subjective argument for how it's not a 10, like bro it's 6 episodes, you need to chill, the fact you ain't using those arguments means you're an anime only, you'll have better arguments after waiting 3 more episodes bro
Jul 15, 10:15 PM
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I've read the manga and it's honestly not a 10, however, you sounds like an anime only who's being too critical way too early, and your arguments are mostly nitpicky, there are better objective arguments than your nitpicky subjective argument for how it's not a 10, like bro it's 6 episodes, you need to chill, the fact you ain't using those arguments means you're an anime only, you'll have better arguments after waiting 3 more episodes bro
@Haunt88 Yes, i don't read manga. I only watch, if i wanna read something, i'll read something usefull like self improvement book.
Jul 16, 12:44 AM

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Rated the manga a 3/10 when it was releasing. Relies on shock value and pretends to be deep. This getting such great production proves we're in the worst timeline.

At the end of the day it's still better than Frieren
Jul 16, 9:18 AM

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@Accelise_

Justthe type of post I would expect from a "empathic" snowflake zoomer who is most likely from a first world country like USA or England.

FYI, a work dealing with serious issues in edgy ways and mostly aiming for a shocking response does not mean it's doing a good or realistic thing. Compare Takopi to something actually deals with similar issues in a realistic way, like Colorful, and you'd see the difference.
Jul 16, 10:08 AM

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OP summarized my view on Erased. At least this show doesn't have weird red strings hanging on villains..
Jul 16, 10:14 AM

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OP summarized my view on Erased. At least this show doesn't have weird red strings hanging on villains..
@Orobou

This anime's ending is much worse than Erased's though, unless you are one of those triggered types by the supposedly "ntr" of Erased that is.
Jul 16, 3:46 PM
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i seriously dont get the "hype" about it.

its not deep, this pink alien is just annoying.

it just shocks. its misery porn in its finest form.



the story is really nothing specialy, you could also watch a third world documentery. or some stuff about child trafficing. whatever... its the same thing.


i really would understand the outstanding ratings if this would have any kinda of deep story, plot twists, or if it even would be interesting.

but all it does is show a world where every single person is an asshole for different reasons.


i really dont get it^^
Jul 16, 3:49 PM
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What makes the anime unique (not 10/10 but very great) isn't having a particularly deep exploration of the theme that you have never seen before, what makes it good is that it has a lot of heart when tackling the themes (as someone who read the manga, it is unexpectedly kind of wholesome) and doing it in a unique way using Takopi's POV, if it wasn't from Takopi's POV the story would be okay but nothing memorable, the use of Takopi's POV allows to explore themes that you have seen before in a special way, is it kind of edgy at times? Maybe, even though as the story goes on you can kind of understand the edgyness a bit more and it isn't purely shock value
The story has a lot of heart and tackles the themes in a unique way, that's why people love it
Also it is smart with how it does the story and telling it purely with the pov of the characters, allowing us as older people understand stuff through context
@Guilmon1 where does this shit have any heart?

children get beaten and killed. everytime a glimmer of hope starts to sparkle it instantly gets crushed to smithereens. where the fuck is that heart you are talking about?

the fuck xD
Jul 16, 5:00 PM
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i rewatch the 3 eps and i hate it even more
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@Guilmon1 where does this shit have any heart?

children get beaten and killed. everytime a glimmer of hope starts to sparkle it instantly gets crushed to smithereens. where the fuck is that heart you are talking about?

the fuck xD
@Wrathberry84 all I can say is wait
Jul 16, 11:27 PM
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Some people take this website too seriously. I gave it a 10 cause I liked it a lot. It reminded me of how I got bullied when I was her age and I hit the kid with a chair and it stopped. That's life baby
Jul 17, 7:54 AM
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I actually agree wholeheartedly with this. I like Takopi's Original Sin, but there are some major plot issues hidden by the emphasis on misery and trauma. From apathetic adults across the board who don't even notice Shizuka is badly beaten every day, to the stationary store owner who doesn't comment on Shizuka buying the same board every day, to the dog bite scene feeling 100% contrived, to the absolute inability to hide Marina's body despite having multiple Happy Gadgets that would've easily done so. These are all plot inconsistencies at best, and outright plot holes at worst.

And to those who were criticizing the OP about 10/10 scores or whatever, isn't the whole point of this website to discuss anime in depth? People have different opinions on things, but in turn people have opinions on your opinions. That's not them taking personal offense or anything: that's them discussing the merits of the anime and getting to the heart of what makes it so good/bad/interesting.

Personally, I currently have Takopi's Original Sin at an 8/10. It's great in a lot of respects, but there are some short-comings that I think could've been done a bit differently. I think many rush to give this anime a 10/10 because of high production values + heavy-hitting subject matter without really thinking about it in the same way they would watch other anime. it's kinda the same effect as watching a CGDCT show and giving it a higher rating for the girls alone. Again, all of these ratings are arbitrary and people can give things whatever they feel they are (obviously!) but other people in turn are welcome to follow their own system and focus more on non-subjective aspects of the show. If you're jumping on this person for not giving it a 10/10 because of how it made you feel, then you're no different than those who criticize people for their emotional opinions.
Jul 17, 8:43 AM

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@Wrathberry84 all I can say is wait
@Guilmon1

Yeah, wait for the ending that will inevitably drop the score, which makes me smile.
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Jul 17, 8:44 AM

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I actually agree wholeheartedly with this. I like Takopi's Original Sin, but there are some major plot issues hidden by the emphasis on misery and trauma. From apathetic adults across the board who don't even notice Shizuka is badly beaten every day, to the stationary store owner who doesn't comment on Shizuka buying the same board every day, to the dog bite scene feeling 100% contrived, to the absolute inability to hide Marina's body despite having multiple Happy Gadgets that would've easily done so. These are all plot inconsistencies at best, and outright plot holes at worst.

And to those who were criticizing the OP about 10/10 scores or whatever, isn't the whole point of this website to discuss anime in depth? People have different opinions on things, but in turn people have opinions on your opinions. That's not them taking personal offense or anything: that's them discussing the merits of the anime and getting to the heart of what makes it so good/bad/interesting.

Personally, I currently have Takopi's Original Sin at an 8/10. It's great in a lot of respects, but there are some short-comings that I think could've been done a bit differently. I think many rush to give this anime a 10/10 because of high production values + heavy-hitting subject matter without really thinking about it in the same way they would watch other anime. it's kinda the same effect as watching a CGDCT show and giving it a higher rating for the girls alone. Again, all of these ratings are arbitrary and people can give things whatever they feel they are (obviously!) but other people in turn are welcome to follow their own system and focus more on non-subjective aspects of the show. If you're jumping on this person for not giving it a 10/10 because of how it made you feel, then you're no different than those who criticize people for their emotional opinions.
RomanRonin said:
Personally, I currently have Takopi's Original Sin at an 8/10.


Just wait for the ending, that's all I am gonna say.
Jul 17, 10:35 AM
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RomanRonin said:
Personally, I currently have Takopi's Original Sin at an 8/10.


Just wait for the ending, that's all I am gonna say.
@JoeChip Oh really? It's a shame if that's the case, but I can totally see them not knowing where to take it from here. It's a difficult thing to have a satisfying ending to a psychological tragedy like this. I hope you're wrong though, as a good ending would ease my concerns about this.
Jul 17, 10:40 AM

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@JoeChip Oh really? It's a shame if that's the case, but I can totally see them not knowing where to take it from here. It's a difficult thing to have a satisfying ending to a psychological tragedy like this. I hope you're wrong though, as a good ending would ease my concerns about this.
@RomanRonin

Edginess will increase with every new episode and I don'T see why they would change the manga ending. Ending is not the only problem with the story but it's the most obvious one.
Jul 17, 5:31 PM
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I could care less what people rate it, but I somewhat agree with OP. It’s not purely because it involves trauma and serious subjects, but because the way it handles them is cheap and manipulative. This show is not trying to actually convey something important, its just trying to entertain with shock value. Doesn’t mean its horrible, idk as of ep 3 id say it’s like 6/10. Could be 7/10 if it doesn’t just keep the same exact formula for the rest of the series.
Jul 19, 1:46 AM
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I actually agree wholeheartedly with this. I like Takopi's Original Sin, but there are some major plot issues hidden by the emphasis on misery and trauma. From apathetic adults across the board who don't even notice Shizuka is badly beaten every day, to the stationary store owner who doesn't comment on Shizuka buying the same board every day, to the dog bite scene feeling 100% contrived, to the absolute inability to hide Marina's body despite having multiple Happy Gadgets that would've easily done so. These are all plot inconsistencies at best, and outright plot holes at worst.

And to those who were criticizing the OP about 10/10 scores or whatever, isn't the whole point of this website to discuss anime in depth? People have different opinions on things, but in turn people have opinions on your opinions. That's not them taking personal offense or anything: that's them discussing the merits of the anime and getting to the heart of what makes it so good/bad/interesting.

Personally, I currently have Takopi's Original Sin at an 8/10. It's great in a lot of respects, but there are some short-comings that I think could've been done a bit differently. I think many rush to give this anime a 10/10 because of high production values + heavy-hitting subject matter without really thinking about it in the same way they would watch other anime. it's kinda the same effect as watching a CGDCT show and giving it a higher rating for the girls alone. Again, all of these ratings are arbitrary and people can give things whatever they feel they are (obviously!) but other people in turn are welcome to follow their own system and focus more on non-subjective aspects of the show. If you're jumping on this person for not giving it a 10/10 because of how it made you feel, then you're no different than those who criticize people for their emotional opinions.
@RomanRonin best reply so far after 170 replies, holy
Jul 19, 1:47 AM
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⚠️⚠️IT'S SO FUNNY THAT THE WHOLE SHOW KEEP MANIFESTING ON MY TAKE EACH EPISODE UPLOADED.⚠️⚠️
currently on episode 4.
Jul 19, 1:53 AM

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For me, how good art is ultimately comes down to the thoughts it inspires, and I think the message of this show is so important and so well delivered that, after four episodes, the show is well deserving of a title like "masterpiece". I don't mind plotholes if the thing a story says is so transcendentally important as this one. If you give me a list of 50 flaws in story telling, I'm going to nod along and most likely agree with you that it is anything but flawless, but if it makes people understand that even those who instigate violence are themselves victims of their own situation, than I don't care, because your list of plotholes is not more important than the degree to which this show can change a person's view on violence and oppression.
Hello, please don't take anything I say as an insult, it is not meant as an attack against you as a person. If I directly disagree with you, that does not mean I think you are wrong, I am just more correct.
Jul 19, 2:09 AM

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See, some people (like me) rate anime not based on if it made sense, but how did it make them feel. If I watch an anime that doesn't make logic sense (not saying Takopii no Genzai is exactly that type of thing) BUT just the art/music/overall vibe makes me feel strong emotions, idgaf about the story, I will rate it well.
@xRebekax Agreed

Fall 2022 is the most Unforgettable anime season of all time



Jul 19, 4:56 AM

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Argument aside, you really choose to write your thoughts here when you can actually earn money by making a 2-minute video and uploading it on YouTube. Such a wasted opportunity, my man; I'm truly disappointed.
Jul 19, 5:28 AM
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this show's rating will tank by the last episode because it just undermines the weight of the themes and is just retarded
Jul 19, 5:37 AM
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Where are the people saying this is a 10/10 masterpiece what are you on about. Also episode 3 was a massive drop for me so I hope episode 4 doesn't disappoint. Also a show can be life-changing for someone without them thinking it's a written masterpiece (aka one piece for many people).
Jul 19, 7:29 AM
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guy who has to find something wrong with everything

sometimes storytelling cna be artsy, sometimes that can be the point, sometimes you have to suspend your disbelief. Is this show primarily about the plot? I would argue no. It is about the character struggles, it is about childhood abuse in its many forms, it is about mental health. The choices made are extremely thoughtful, are choices made clearly from a place of understanding, and are choices made that elevate this above most anime that are just "Story fun"
Jul 19, 10:24 AM
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Yapping nonsense just for the sake of yapping nonsense
Jul 19, 12:44 PM
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I mean yeah it’s an 8/10 for me. Pretty good, but not perfect


Candy 2023:



Candy 2024:
Jul 19, 4:56 PM
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I stopped reading when you mentioned Solo Leveling...
Jul 19, 10:25 PM
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Tenho que reforçar: Os adultos nessa serie são tão incompetentes que chega à ser ridículo....

A professora não viu os xingos na mesa de Shizuka?? Ou no armário que fica literalmente na frente da escola????

O autor não achou que isso seria o bastante para dar continuidade no enredo ne? LOL
Jul 20, 5:32 PM

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"even solo leveling a 10/10"

Bro, really? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time.

Watch more movies, please.

Perhaps, this is hell.
Jul 20, 7:05 PM
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Tenho que reforçar: Os adultos nessa serie são tão incompetentes que chega à ser ridículo....

A professora não viu os xingos na mesa de Shizuka?? Ou no armário que fica literalmente na frente da escola????

O autor não achou que isso seria o bastante para dar continuidade no enredo ne? LOL
@Baka_God EVEN THIS GUY AGREE WITH ME EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DIFFRENT FORM OF COMMUNICATION 🤣
Jul 20, 7:06 PM
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"even solo leveling a 10/10"

Bro, really? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@Phosphophyllita yk that's a joke right? even then i said fun10s you still pointing that out? the hate is so forced at this point
Jul 21, 5:44 AM

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@Phosphophyllita yk that's a joke right? even then i said fun10s you still pointing that out? the hate is so forced at this point
@Move1 bro, I don't really care, just find it funny.

You gave 10 to Solo Level and now you're flabbergasted because people are giving 10 to Tapoken

What if those people giving 10 to this new show are truly "genuinely entertained" and "are having a blast watching it"?
If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time.

Watch more movies, please.

Perhaps, this is hell.
Jul 21, 9:21 AM
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You've given the answer in your own post on why many put it as a 10/10.

Not everyone watches anime to critically analyze its content. Tons of people just simply enjoy it (story, art, animation, etc.) They don't even care enough to be offended by being "emotionally manipulated" because the show's intended roller coaster ride was entertaining.
Jul 21, 9:39 AM

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People needs to stop hating on this show for no reason lol, it's a 6episodes anime based on an equally short Manga, just wait, watch and go on with your lives it's not that hard
Jul 21, 12:01 PM
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i bet you are fun at parties lil guy
Jul 21, 12:48 PM
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loooooooooooool Cry about it x;D
Jul 21, 1:13 PM
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Lmao ya'll are just actually ai, being fine getting manipulated with misery porn and called it "the best". atleast don't rate the show and keep it to yourself so people don't see this anime coming up in website
Jul 21, 9:43 PM

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history is witness that mfs will watch anything with trauma and call it masterpiece (especially if it involves children). take made in abyss, to your eternity for example. even evangelion. anything that has torture (mental or physical) or trauma, people will label it as greatest shit of all time. womp womp fools you get easily manipulated. this ain't no masterpiece you just an impressionable easily influenced idiot who misunderstands bullshit emotional manipulation as deep stuff. many find this relatable or are just sadists, hence the ratings. its a fact that people who have suffered through trauma will watch anything that depicts trauma and call it a masterpiece just because they find it relatable.

this getting high ratings is so pathetic.

@Move1 "misery porn". couldn't have said it better. perfect to describe this shit.


Phosphophyllita said:
truly "genuinely entertained" and "are having a blast watching it"?
that's the point. you guys just enjoy watching people suffer, you guys like misery porn so admit it and stop saying this is deep or whatever cuz its not. its a simple emotional manipulation through shock



@Move1 all your points are solid and logical. don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama.
Feeling half happy, half sad.
  

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Jul 22, 3:00 AM

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Bro has Re:Zero as a 10/10 anime and is complaining people gave Takopii a 10/10 lmao-pi.
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Bro has Re:Zero as a 10/10 anime and is complaining people gave Takopii a 10/10 lmao-pi.
@curvedtree Backpedaliing cuck
Jul 22, 9:09 AM

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history is witness that mfs will watch anything with trauma and call it masterpiece (especially if it involves children). take made in abyss, to your eternity for example. even evangelion. anything that has torture (mental or physical) or trauma, people will label it as greatest shit of all time. womp womp fools you get easily manipulated. this ain't no masterpiece you just an impressionable easily influenced idiot who misunderstands bullshit emotional manipulation as deep stuff. many find this relatable or are just sadists, hence the ratings. its a fact that people who have suffered through trauma will watch anything that depicts trauma and call it a masterpiece just because they find it relatable.

this getting high ratings is so pathetic.

@Move1 "misery porn". couldn't have said it better. perfect to describe this shit.


Phosphophyllita said:
truly "genuinely entertained" and "are having a blast watching it"?
that's the point. you guys just enjoy watching people suffer, you guys like misery porn so admit it and stop saying this is deep or whatever cuz its not. its a simple emotional manipulation through shock



@Move1 all your points are solid and logical. don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
TsutanaiFuun said:
all your points are solid and logical. don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


I wouldn't go that far but most points the Op has made are okay.
Jul 22, 4:13 PM
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Kinda hypocrite how you say that no adultes reacting is a plot hole, but you have Koe no katachi in favs. I respect if you don't like it, but don't make a fuss over an anime that gets people emotional and attached.
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