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TheServant said: MightyM16 said: It really wasn't about winning. I was trying to understand your logic but it seems like you were just shitposting in the end. I was not shitposting & I could elaborate my opinion, but I am just not interested in discussing Fate series with certain kind of Fate fans. That's why I have been answering you & the other user with lazy answers. Sorry. So basically, you're "afraid" of discussion with people that don't share your opinion? Sorry but that sounds dumb. TheServant said: Yeah, I could see that. Nasu really tried to make Shirou a "typical protagonist with a twist" kind of deal, but he still feels like any other shounen protag. Though it seems I cannot fault Nasu since from what I understand, Shirou's portrayal in the anime is not as good as the VN(at least that's from what I understand from discussing things with Fate fans). Well, that shows you shouldn't adapt complicated VN to the anime medium. That's not it. Shirou's entire character arc only really becomes clear after you finish the series and since you're clearly anime only, you're still lacking the HF part of it. He is a solid characer with both Fate and UBW but it's his development during HF that strenghtens his character as a whole because it offers a different perspective for it, the fact that you think that he is a just generic shounen protagonist is the evidence that shows that you don't understand what his character is about right now. sirhcnil said: My jimmies were rustled hard there too... They may be powerless against that crazy dude but not even an attempt to help? Ultra-facepalm-jackiechanface Tears were shed of disappointment Other parts were ok You do know that Olga was already dead, right? |
MightyM16Jan 9, 2017 7:11 PM
Yes; it was just too brutal for me, a little Fate series and Olga fanboy :/ wish they could've said a proper goodbye and whatnot then disappear peacefully my hopes are still up for the FGO game's second season |
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TheServant said: MightyM16 said: So basically, you're "afraid" of discussion with people that don't share your opinion?. No, not at all. But if I elaborate my reason, you & other Fate fans like you would be angry. So let's end it here & say that I agree with all of your judgement about me. Again, nice chatting with you. Angry? Is that what you call when people disagree and discuss with each other? If you want to end the discussion, it's fine but to me it just looks like you were either shitposting or afraid. |
TheServant said: MightyM16 said: If you want to end the discussion, it's fine but to me it just looks like you were either shitposting or afraid. I agree. I absolutely agree with you. You agree that you were afraid and/or shitposting? OK then... |
MightyM16 said: TheServant said: I agree. I absolutely agree with you. You agree that you were afraid and/or shitposting? OK then... To me that's just the "yeah sure whatever you're right" that people use when they don't want to discuss anymore (not that he tried to discuss at all but eh). It doesn't make sense not to talk just because people will disagree with you (it's not even guaranteed that they'll disagree, unless you're already planning to say thing that will upset them), but eh, not that I can do anything about it. |
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| So you only discuss shit with people that share the same opinion as you.With everyone else you are just shitposting. |
| It wasn't that bad. I felt it was decent at least a seven. I fanboyed it to an eight but didn't mind the insert yourself character approach for a video game. It was nice to watch some Fate action as always. |
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TheServant said: LeloThePGG said: To me that's just the "yeah sure whatever you're right" that people use when they don't want to discuss anymore (not that he tried to discuss at all but eh). It doesn't make sense not to talk just because people will disagree with you (it's not even guaranteed that they'll disagree, unless you're already planning to say thing that will upset them), but eh, not that I can do anything about it. Exactly. Thank you for explaining that. Like I said many times in this thread, I am simply not interested in discussing Fate series with certain kind of Fate fans. I have many times discussed about Fate series with many Fate fans, & I know which kind that can involve in a proper discussion. And to be fair, this kind of thing happen not only in Fate fandom. I can't help but feel that you are insulting me when you imply that I am that "kind of fan" though. Did you reach that conclusion just because I disagreed with you? |
| Question, is this or any of the other game adaptations of Fate (Apocrypha, Extra, Extra/CCC etc) that will be adapted in anime format, connected to the main thing (Fate/SN, Zero, UBW and HF) at all? I'm so confused by the things that happened in here since I've only ever watched the anime of Zero, UBW and now this. Overall, this was pretty meh though. MCs were dull. I did feel bad for Olga though and the spotlight of this was definitely Cu Chulain. |
Geekwoglasses said: Question, is this or any of the other game adaptations of Fate (Apocrypha, Extra, Extra/CCC etc) that will be adapted in anime format, connected to the main thing (Fate/SN, Zero, UBW and HF) at all? I'm so confused by the things that happened in here since I've only ever watched the anime of Zero, UBW and now this. Overall, this was pretty meh though. MCs were dull. I did feel bad for Olga though and the spotlight of this was definitely Cu Chulain. Same multiverse. It shares characters with all those series so having watch/read/play them helps a lot. But to be fair,what Chaldea is doing in FGO is entirely new to the multiverse,so except the"Master controls Servants" thing nothing else is relevant to the other series, at least not until we reach the London chapter where the Heaven's Feel movies and Fate/Zero are really relevant for a certain character and the ritual. |
ssjokg said: Geekwoglasses said: Question, is this or any of the other game adaptations of Fate (Apocrypha, Extra, Extra/CCC etc) that will be adapted in anime format, connected to the main thing (Fate/SN, Zero, UBW and HF) at all? I'm so confused by the things that happened in here since I've only ever watched the anime of Zero, UBW and now this. Overall, this was pretty meh though. MCs were dull. I did feel bad for Olga though and the spotlight of this was definitely Cu Chulain. Same multiverse. It shares characters with all those series so having watch/read/play them helps a lot. But to be fair,what Chaldea is doing in FGO is entirely new to the multiverse,so except the"Master controls Servants" thing nothing else is relevant to the other series, at least not until we reach the London chapter where the Heaven's Feel movies and Fate/Zero are really relevant for a certain character and the ritual. So the basic idea behind GO is that they have to go back in time to reverse anomalies / singularities that can erase the Earth's population? Do these singularities occur in the other games or routes? |
Geekwoglasses said: Not quite.ssjokg said: Same multiverse. It shares characters with all those series so having watch/read/play them helps a lot. But to be fair,what Chaldea is doing in FGO is entirely new to the multiverse,so except the"Master controls Servants" thing nothing else is relevant to the other series, at least not until we reach the London chapter where the Heaven's Feel movies and Fate/Zero are really relevant for a certain character and the ritual. So the basic idea behind GO is that they have to go back in time to reverse anomalies / singularities that can erase the Earth's population? Do these singularities occur in the other games or routes? The singularities are events that suddenly appeared and shouldnt have existed in the first place.It is a multiverse but unlike DC and I think Marvel as well, not everything is possible. For example, this is from an event collaboration with Fate/zero:(doubtful that it will be animated since it isnt from the main story) So for this event having watched FZ REALLLYYYY helps a lot. |
| Nice movie. 8/10 but because it FINALLY gave Cu Chulainn the glory he deserves I will rate it 9/10. |
| Was fairly enjoyable, main cast wasnt anything special, but the OVA got really good with the alter cameos for the heroes. Caster was a bro, just like Lancer always is. And Rider on Lancer's position, that outfit <3 |
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| the story is average, only advantage is it is related to Fate actions were not exciting at all, especially the Saber fight |
| That was great! Olga gets no sympathy from me. I was actually hoping that Saber would be the one to do her in. I want Fou to be my pet. |
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| I guess....it was okay? Nothing special for me. MC was pretty dumb (well, Shiro wasn't better, but story was good). |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| I want to eat Mashu everytime I see her in Servant outfit. |
| As is very common with this series, I'm not sure I understand what's going. Though it looks like Speedwagon is that bad guy. Dat hair. |
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| liked it, because of the idea of seeing more Saber, but after realizing that that's it, that there is one episode & no more, I hate it, I wouldn't have wasted my time on it if I knew that this isn't the all story. know, does someone knows if this will have follow up, & when ? |
LF2005Feb 2, 2017 12:38 PM
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LF2005 said: liked it, because of the idea of seeing more Saber, but after realizing that that's it, that there is one episode & nomero, I hate it, I wouldn't have wasted my time on it if I knew that that isn't the all story. know, does someone knows if this will have follow up, & when ? Probably In the player survey that is happening right now they ask "How do you hope for FGO to branch out next" and Tv anime is one of the options. Lets be real, they have nothing to lose by animating this. |
sterlingcrave said: oh great. Another installment of that porn game. And from the sounds of it it's not a great one Do you watch Game of Thrones for the sex scenes? |
| Wow, can't believe Shinjuku was written by Sakurai, it is actually pretty good. I guess she finally learned how to write for FGO, or maybe the others reined her in. Bobmiya is definitely emiya's alter, that was a gruesome way for him to kill phantom. |
| "You had no free will, you chased your vices along the same path as all of the others." - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, Diamond in the rough |
frenze12 said: If you are saying Shirou is a self insert/silent protagonist you missed the part of this forum where it was said Shirou wasn't one... In any case Ritsuka is a random blank slate and he/she stays that way over the entire story, that makes Shirou by default a 10 times better protagonist. I never compared them. Shirou's an empty guy who is trying to feel happiness in a way he thinks he can feel happiness. It's not that he's selfless and good person, it's that doing those actions is the only way he can feel satisfaction. He's more complicated than someone who does good deeds. He has an arc and development. FSN is Shirou's story, the exploration of his ideals and ways, and his struggle to regain humanity to fight his emptiness. Ritsuka doesn't have any of this because FGO is not his story. He's just there to self-insert and witness what happens (and collect 'em poke-Servants). My point is that FGO is the story of someone else who struggled in the past with a similar issue Shirou had (not identical, of course, but the emptiness is still a shared trait). That's what I mean. And it's that' character way which is in dispute with the antagonist. Those who played FGO and read Nasu's interviews already know of who I'm talking about. That character is the classic Nasu's protagonist if there wasn't need for a cheap self-insert for the mobage players. |
ThessMar 25, 2017 4:40 AM
frenze12 said: Don't know what you are on about, FGO tells us absolutely nothing about the protagonist so you saying he/she is "empty" "someone who struggled in the past with a similar issue Shirou had" is just pure fan speculation. I'm not talking about Fujimaru. Please read what I wrote again. |
frenze12 said: Yes you did, plz notice your own contradiction. No, I didn't. You're wrongly assuming FGO is Fujimaru's story (it's not). |
Please, read what I actually typed: Ritsuka doesn't have any of this because FGO is not his story. He's just there to self-insert and witness what happens (and collect 'em poke-Servants). My point is that FGO is the story of someone else who struggled in the past with a similar issue Shirou had (not identical, of course, but the emptiness is still a shared trait). That's what I mean. And it's that' character way which is in dispute with the antagonist. Those who played FGO and read Nasu's interviews already know of who I'm talking about. That character is the classic Nasu's protagonist if there wasn't need for a cheap self-insert for the mobage players. I stressed I wasn't talking about Ritsuka but another character who is the actual focus of the plotline. |
| As someone who has not played the Fate/Grand Order game and has no intentions of doing so as long as it doesn't have an english version, everyone is free to take my opinion with a grain of salt. The story is nothing special and the characters are no exception either especially Olga Animusphere - the most obnoxious and whiniest woman ever. In fact, the only character that entertained me was Caster Cu since I liked him way before since Fate/Stay Night. Also despite Fate being infamous of its rather complex power level hierarchy, I find it extremely hard to believe that Caster Cu was so powerful even though he's only a Caster because he knew Rune magic. So he couldn't do the job as Lancer but does so with flying colors as Caster, huh? The animation was rather average for a 1-hour special. I guess I shouldn't expect much a fairly new studio. Saber Alter is so spoiled by now. From Carnival Phantasm to Prillya and now this. This is probably the biggest mistake of adapting other materials before Heaven's Feel. |
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Tenshi_Shura said: Cu keeps dying in Fsn because.As someone who has not played the Fate/Grand Order game and has no intentions of doing so as long as it doesn't have an english version, everyone is free to take my opinion with a grain of salt. The story is nothing special and the characters are no exception either especially Olga Animusphere - the most obnoxious and whiniest woman ever. In fact, the only character that entertained me was Caster Cu since I liked him way before since Fate/Stay Night. Also despite Fate being infamous of its rather complex power level hierarchy, I find it extremely hard to believe that Caster Cu was so powerful even though he's only a Caster because he knew Rune magic. So he couldn't do the job as Lancer but does so with flying colors as Caster, huh? The animation was rather average for a 1-hour special. I guess I shouldn't expect much a fairly new studio. Saber Alter is so spoiled by now. From Carnival Phantasm to Prillya and now this. This is probably the biggest mistake of adapting other materials before Heaven's Feel. Fate: His enemy was Gil.He still fought him for half a day. Ubw:was limited by his Master's Command Spell against Saber and Archer the first time.He dominated Archer the second time and met him go.Was killed because of a command spell. HF: I see no issues there. |
| Cu dies because he's not the protagonist's Servant. |
Thess said: Cu dies because he's not the protagonist's Servant. That post is contradictory to that avatar. |
astroprogs said: That post is contradictory to that avatar. Sadly Bazett wasn't the protagonist in FSN. ;_; |
Thess said: astroprogs said: That post is contradictory to that avatar. Sadly Bazett wasn't the protagonist in FSN. ;_; She was in HA and look how that turned out for our favorite doge. |
He's alive FHA according to the unlockable epilogue. ;) Anyway, he wasn't her Servant in FHA, he was Karen's Servant. Avenger was Bazett's Servant who did fine until he pulled that ending, despite being the weakest Servant. |
| Just finished the anime and liked it, very interesting plot although it felt a bit rushed. Hope there will be a next episode or even a TV series in the future. Question for those who played the game: will there be romance between Mash and Ritsuka? |
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