Is the English dub good?

No, it's terrible.

@Piromysl

Are you just saying that cause "ew dubs icky" or did you actually watch it?

The person asking is clearly ok with dubs to be considering it, so it would be pretty selfish to tell him it's terrible if you haven't heard it.

@Piromysl

Are you just saying that cause "ew dubs icky" or did you actually watch it?

The person asking is clearly ok with dubs to be considering it, so it would be pretty selfish to tell him it's terrible if you haven't heard it.

@APolygons2
Yes, "all dubs are icky" and I am firmly standing by that statement.

@APolygons2 I sadly tried to watch it with dubs as the original cast didn't fit my taste. YES, it's terrible. They totally changed characters even more. Chilchuck is surprisingly good (for US dubs standard), but Marcille sounds horrible, Laius if forgettable and IMO doesn't fit the character. Of course, you have to also remember that localization team from Netflix sucks and drastically changes dialogues without any reason. It somehow reminds me old times of Yu-gi-Oh and all that nonsense.

Edit:
Oh, and the narrator is nice. But that's something actually common.

@Piromysl I mean, I disagree, but that's not the point.

I'm just saying, this guy is clearly not of that opinion. why mislead him?

can't you just hate all dubs on your own? why gotta go sabotage someone else's experience?


If someone was asking if this anime is good, they wouldn't want the opinion of someone who hates all anime. So, the least you can do is at least say something like:

"probably cause I think most dubs are shit"

so that way, op can look at it and be like, "oh, well this opinion is not useful to me."

@Sharri

I mean, the most recent netflix dub I saw was pluto, and I thought that was great!



so I am sad to hear that this one isn't that good.

I'll probably at least still try it though.

@APolygons2 Bro, after I've heard dubbed Freiren (out of morbid curiosity), it gave me real fight or flight response and people actually praising that, I've come to conclusion that problem is not on my side. Her voice does not fit her at all and that voice actress does such a pitiful performance, that Freiren seems to have completely different personality while dubbed. But this might be related to recent localizer drama and the fact, that localizers just piss on the source material.

@APolygons2 Bro, after I've heard dubbed Freiren (out of morbid curiosity), it gave me real fight or flight response and people actually praising that, I've come to conclusion that problem is not on my side. Her voice does not fit her at all and that voice actress does such a pitiful performance, that Freiren seems to have completely different personality while dubbed. But this might be related to recent localizer drama and the fact, that localizers just piss on the source material.

I haven't heard the dub for friren, so I wouldn't know, but these are some actual examples of what I consider great dubs:

@APolygons2 It all sounds like shit.
There is absolutely nothing worse than English VA trying to pronounce Japanese names or even add prefixes like -san or -chan. It is un-fucking-berable.


Yes, it is bad. Especially since she sounds completely different, because it seems that her voice now fits more of her chronological age, because she sounds like a granny.

@APolygons2 It all sounds like shit.
There is absolutely nothing worse than English VA trying to pronounce Japanese names or even add prefixes like -san or -chan. It is un-fucking-berable.


Yes, it is bad. Especially since she sounds completely different, because it seems that her voice now fits more of her chronological age, because she sounds like a granny.

you see, you are the problem!

any voice actor, or anyone who knows anything about voice acting would tell you not a single of these performances is anything close to bad.

It's fine to have a bias, we all do, but you got to understand that it's entirely your bias. And pushing it down other people's throat is just unnecessary and makes you sound like asshole for no good reason.

you hate it?

great, leave it be. it's clearly not for you.

@APolygons2 Nah, bro. As I said, I'm way past of assuming it is subjective matter and people praising Freiren dub fully convinced me, that they are simply out of touch.


There is also of matter of English VA (especially anime) industry being completely filled with degenerates, hypocrites and Twitterans, which I absolutely refuse to support in any way. Not even pirate.

Oh my god, I just tried watching different dubs, and French one is almost perfect. You have a feeling that those voice actors were chosen to fit characters, not some kind of generic idea that the localization team had about them.

@APolygons2 Nah, bro. As I said, I'm way past of assuming it is subjective matter and people praising Freiren dub fully convinced me, that they are simply out of touch.


There is also of matter of English VA (especially anime) industry being completely filled with degenerates, hypocrites and Twitterans, which I absolutely refuse to support in any way. Not even pirate.

@Piromysl you literally just said all the dubs I sent you suck.... these are like all near perfect performances, there is actually 0 room for complaining beyond having a MASSIVE bias.

Maybe the love is war one just cause the narrator is massively different (I would argue for the better), but specially the pluto clip is basically flawless.

@APolygons2 Bro, when I compare any anime dub to something like video game, the difference is like night and day. Some of them are actual masterpieces, because they don't feel like rewriting characters with poor performance, so there is some sort of comparing. English VA can do a decent job, but for anime they just don't feel like it and and think, that they are not even trying to hide the fact, that they hate this media might be the factor.

Episode one seems serviceable so far. Certainly won't be winning any awards, and the narrator is noticeably better than the main cast, but I'm not finding it poor enough to switch to sub as with certain other recent dubbing jobs. Looking at you, Dreaming Boy Realist.

@APolygons2 Bro, after I've heard dubbed Freiren (out of morbid curiosity), it gave me real fight or flight response and people actually praising that, I've come to conclusion that problem is not on my side. Her voice does not fit her at all and that voice actress does such a pitiful performance, that Freiren seems to have completely different personality while dubbed. But this might be related to recent localizer drama and the fact, that localizers just piss on the source material.

@Stink_Bug what about it? I've never seen anyone talking about it.

It's a mixed bag. I like Marcille Senshi and Narrators VO, Chilchuck is okay, and Laios just doesn't fit for me.

I haven't heard the dub for friren, so I wouldn't know, but these are some actual examples of what I consider great dubs:

@APolygons2

I briefly went through your list of what you perceive to be decent or good dubs. Let me just say that I dread the thought of listening to dubs as they are generally quite awful in my experience. Generally.. but its not always the case! The ones you have here don't sound too bad from the small bit I heard. Maybe Kaguya-sama sounds a bit regrettable and that could be from the fact that voicing Japanese comedy can be more difficult for westerners.

Now the person you are arguing with @Piromysl I totally understand where he is coming from as It seems he's heard his fair share of awful dubs and is simply turned off from it. That said.. When it comes to Dungeon Meshi he is likely not wrong in assuming that it's awful in dubs. Dungeon Meshi has plenty of Comedy and nuances that would be very difficult to be replicated and/or translated by westerners. In my opinion watching any comedy heavy anime in dubs is an awful choice. Shout out to Konosuba dub team; they did an admirable job! Nevertheless I would still 100% recommend the Japanese voice actors for Konosuba as they are supremely talented and have honed their craft over many years specifically for Japanese animated characters where westerns would never.

@APolygons2 Nah, bro. As I said, I'm way past of assuming it is subjective matter and people praising Freiren dub fully convinced me, that they are simply out of touch.


There is also of matter of English VA (especially anime) industry being completely filled with degenerates, hypocrites and Twitterans, which I absolutely refuse to support in any way. Not even pirate.

@APolygons2
Yes, "all dubs are icky" and I am firmly standing by that statement.