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Dec 24, 2009 1:18 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So Tousen's finished. The fight was alright, but pretty lackluster. On a different note, I like Shinji's shikai. I didn't like however how he had to explain it to Aizen.

Ichigo appearing was expected... And as expected, we'll probably have one or two slow chapters with him talking, lol.
Dec 24, 2009 1:47 PM
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Shinji is just badass.
The first time we saw Aizen really surprised ... and wounded !
For Tousen, goodbye.
Dec 24, 2009 10:12 PM
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Who the fuck was that guy that crashed into Aizen and Shinji's fight as if he was the main protagonist of this manga?
Dec 25, 2009 1:36 AM
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EPIC:

Dec 25, 2009 2:09 AM
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Even the Godlike Aizen can shed blood yet, Aizen managed to get used to the hallucination so quickly.Way too skillful. But still, Shinji's ability was interesting.Ichigo's entrance felt too sudden. Would have thought that the battle would continue a little longer
Dec 25, 2009 2:24 AM
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well you forget Aizen's ability as well. That could have been a factor. Kubo reminded us of why Aizen is indeed a bastard again, and maybe we'll get somewhere with him now.
Dec 25, 2009 2:35 AM
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ichigo's entrance was a bit rushed , but still something interesting might happen now that we have this trangle. Overall a great chapter and aizen finishing tousen off was also surprising.
Dec 25, 2009 4:59 AM
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So, Ichigo bursts onto the scene O_O although all Aizen has to do is reveal his Shi-kai and it's all over, seems though Aizen dealt the final blow to Tousen, where is Gin though @_@? Hirako's release is interesting but that would never get past Aizen =/
Dec 25, 2009 5:34 AM
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Aizen is bastard....finishing off Tousen now?! So if anyone fails him he finishes off. =_= Well in his eyes consider weak.

I hope Aizen have a slow and verrrrrrry pain death.

Overall it was an okay chapter.
Dec 25, 2009 5:40 AM

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Oh someone making an entrance..finally
Dec 25, 2009 6:50 AM

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hirako's shikai IS something intresting, but not enough to kill the main boss XD
anyway why did he explain everything to aizen? overconfident or he was plotting something?
great chapter.


oh yeah, ichigo's back.
Dec 25, 2009 8:27 AM

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I seriously hope Kubo isn't going to shaft Shinji in place for Ichigo vs Aizen.
Dec 25, 2009 10:13 AM
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Avarice said:
Who the fuck was that guy that crashed into Aizen and Shinji's fight as if he was the main protagonist of this manga?


This made me LOL.
Dec 25, 2009 10:31 AM

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Is it me or do I get the feeling that Gin might turn out to be the mastermind in all this, we thought he was the mastermind before until we found out it was aizen, could we have been fooled, what do we know about Gin?

* he's face is that of a fox, smart and cunning.

* Rukia comments on how she felt like snakes were wrapping around her neck whenever Gin spoke.

*Gin saved Rangiku Matsumoto from starvation when they were children, and the two have been good friends since then. Rangiku is the only person Gin seems to truly care about, although he seems to "disappear" often, as Rangiku puts it. He also never tells her where he's going.

*Gin was considered a child prodigy since he graduated from the academy within a YEAR and was assigned to a seated position in the 5th Division.

*Gin killed the 3rd seat of the division with ease, which aroused Aizen's interest in him.

So the BIG question is who is Gin and where did he come from, am absolutely sure now that after this chapter Gin is the true mastermind, I believe after the fight with ichigo and aizen loses, Gin will kill off aizen and reveal that he was the actual mastermind and will escape with a Grin on his face for another bout with soul society with his new hollow vizard army.

Ok I might have gone too far there but am still sure theres more to Gin than meets the eye.



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Avarice said:
Who the fuck was that guy that crashed into Aizen and Shinji's fight as if he was the main protagonist of this manga?


Idunno but i don't like him and wished he'd stay outta the way so the interesting characters can fight and get moar page time
Dec 25, 2009 10:47 AM

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DarK_LiGhT said:
Is it me or do I get the feeling that Gin might turn out to be the mastermind in all this, we thought he was the mastermind before until we found out it was aizen, could we have been fooled, what do we know about Gin?

* he's face is that of a fox, smart and cunning.

* Rukia comments on how she felt like snakes were wrapping around her neck whenever Gin spoke.

*Gin saved Rangiku Matsumoto from starvation when they were children, and the two have been good friends since then. Rangiku is the only person Gin seems to truly care about, although he seems to "disappear" often, as Rangiku puts it. He also never tells her where he's going.

*Gin was considered a child prodigy since he graduated from the academy within a YEAR and was assigned to a seated position in the 5th Division.

*Gin killed the 3rd seat of the division with ease, which aroused Aizen's interest in him.

So the BIG question is who is Gin and where did he come from, am absolutely sure now that after this chapter Gin is the true mastermind, I believe after the fight with ichigo and aizen loses, Gin will kill off aizen and reveal that he was the actual mastermind and will escape with a Grin on his face for another bout with soul society with his new hollow vizard army.

Ok I might have gone too far there but am still sure theres more to Gin than meets the eye.


The reason I believe this is because we see aizen fight before Gin and we have no idea where he's disapeared off too.

And we see aisen bleed which is almost trying to remind us that he not indestructible.

And if you remmber the way Gin speaks to aizen, it shows he has no fear of him and therefore he might be more powerful.

Am not 100% sure about my theory but I only have 1% doubt that I might be wrong.

Oh! and he has RED DEMONIC EYES when he opens them.

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Dec 25, 2009 12:21 PM

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Pretty neat ability that Shinji's zanpuktou had. Ichigo just came in the nick of time, wonder if it's enough even.



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Dec 25, 2009 12:29 PM

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Dang, I think I will never get over the fact the Tousen lost to a vice captain.
Really, a Captain class+hollowfication+resurreccion got one hit KO. lol



anyway, so it's time for Ichigo and Aizen showdown.


Dec 25, 2009 12:30 PM
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hirako's shikai IS something intresting, but not enough to kill the main boss XD
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what WOULD be clever of hirako is to use his shikai, explain all the powers of aizen, get him to get used to it. and then TURN IT OFF BEFORE DEALING A FATAL BLOW. now *that* would be good against a final boss. or turn it on and off randomly to just totally fuck up aizen 50%
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Aizen is bastard....finishing off Tousen now?! So if anyone fails him he finishes off. =_= Well in his eyes consider weak.

I hope Aizen have a slow and verrrrrrry pain death.

Overall it was an okay chapter.




I am calling it.


~10chapter from now:
Aizen: Thank you everyone. The key has been made from those who died in this battle. This was my plan all aloong. Ho ho ho~
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so shinji controls smell and messes up what you see nice
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Dec 25, 2009 1:04 PM

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Excellent idea for a shikai, that was very confusing when he used his power.
Aizen is fuckin' careless though, he let Hirako releasing his shikai without doing anything, maybe he's a genius who can easily find a counterattack for every situation but it'd have been safer for him to stop Hirako before he release his sword.
And Hirako's an imbecile for telling that his shikai's power is illusion type and letting to Aizen the time to get used to his shikai's power. He could have attacked him directly after releasing his shikai, he would have win a lot from the surprise effect.

Tousen's ending was very touching, an ending where he's reconciling with his dearest friends.
Dec 25, 2009 1:04 PM
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so aizen managed to see what was going on with tousen and killed him while still fighting with shinji ... i wished that aizen suffered more by shinji b4 ichigo came ...
Dec 25, 2009 1:06 PM

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finally!
Dec 25, 2009 1:27 PM

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ichigo's back woooo and tousen died yay!!! shirako is a beast but WHERE THE HELL IS GIN??? I wanna see him fight

overall 5/5
Dec 25, 2009 1:30 PM

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Ridiculous. Tousen is. It's okay, since I didn't even like him to begin with, but just what was that? Damn, we're talking about Bleach, this stuff shouldn't have simple deaths like that.D=

Anyways, I find it funny, how Aizen kills his own comrades one after the other, I guess that'll be the end of him. Right now only Gin, Aizen, Wonderweiss and Yammy are left, if I'm right.
Dec 25, 2009 1:33 PM

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I loved to see Shinji's Bankai, It really gave me some hope but after that...

And there'll be more Ichigo again, damn!
Dec 25, 2009 1:40 PM

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lovelyoceaneyes said:
Avarice said:
Who the fuck was that guy that crashed into Aizen and Shinji's fight as if he was the main protagonist of this manga?


This made me LOL.


Me 2.

And I agree with Dark_Light,I think that way too.^^
Dec 25, 2009 1:45 PM

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Tousen's dead and Ichigo's returned, nice.
Dec 25, 2009 1:52 PM

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DarK_LiGhT said:
The reason I believe this is because we see aizen fight before Gin and we have no idea where he's disapeared off too.

And we see aisen bleed which is almost trying to remind us that he not indestructible.

And if you remmber the way Gin speaks to aizen, it shows he has no fear of him and therefore he might be more powerful.

Am not 100% sure about my theory but I only have 1% doubt that I might be wrong.

Oh! and he has RED DEMONIC EYES when he opens them.


Kubo better not just make him the main villain. That'd be too obvious, considering the massive foreshadowing in the last chapter's spread. I'm hoping he re-joins the good guys somehow. I just love it when the biggest asshole in the whole story is on their side.
If not, I'll settle for revealing he's the spirit king. Still kinda predictable, but it'd thoroughly humiliate Aizen.
Dec 25, 2009 1:57 PM

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Lololol, Hisagi finished a hollowified captain xD He's my hero.

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what WOULD be clever of hirako is to use his shikai, explain all the powers of aizen, get him to get used to it. and then TURN IT OFF BEFORE DEALING A FATAL BLOW. now *that* would be good against a final boss. or turn it on and off randomly to just totally fuck up aizen 50%

THIS.

Ichigo is finally there to save the day! But why in the world are his eyes open xD
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Dec 25, 2009 2:11 PM

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Wait, so that was the real Tosen? I thought that was just an illusion created by Aizen and Tosen was already dead.
Dec 25, 2009 2:26 PM

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Go random appearance Ichigo. :P

Hmm, Aizen can bleed real blood? That's actually kind of shocking. I wonder if it's red or black, like his heart. And of course he's not the least bit fazed by the inverted world. Well, maybe for two seconds, but he got used to it way too quickly.
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Dec 25, 2009 2:31 PM

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Mammoth said:
DarK_LiGhT said:
The reason I believe this is because we see aizen fight before Gin and we have no idea where he's disapeared off too.

And we see aisen bleed which is almost trying to remind us that he not indestructible.

And if you remmber the way Gin speaks to aizen, it shows he has no fear of him and therefore he might be more powerful.

Am not 100% sure about my theory but I only have 1% doubt that I might be wrong.

Oh! and he has RED DEMONIC EYES when he opens them.


Kubo better not just make him the main villain. That'd be too obvious, considering the massive foreshadowing in the last chapter's spread. I'm hoping he re-joins the good guys somehow. I just love it when the biggest asshole in the whole story is on their side.
If not, I'll settle for revealing he's the spirit king. Still kinda predictable, but it'd thoroughly humiliate Aizen.


i would laugh if he was the main villain... and love him more. but also, you gotta look at gin's cover of book.. was it 19 or 20? you gotta remember that his manga eyes are a nice shade of blue if i remember correctly... so those red eyes aren't really following with what kubo had in mind for them but then again, we never see 'em to begin with @_@



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Dec 25, 2009 2:34 PM
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Finally Ichigo makes his entrance.






Dec 25, 2009 2:59 PM

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There are only Aizen and Gin left. I think Gin will extent his sword and attack to Ichigo then Shinji and Aizen will continue their fight in next chapter. If not Gin will turn against Aizen.

I'm pretty sure he will betray to Aizen sooner or later. But i dont think he is the boss lol. Aizen created hallowfication not Gin. He must've joined Aizen for power maybe his purpose is to get King's key too. Well we will see...
Dec 25, 2009 3:14 PM

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Hirako so mean not giving his sword to Aizen! :P

Anyway inverting the world is such a nice concept, wish it had posed more of a challenge though, then Aizen finishing off Tousen like that o_O; Plus Ichigo... well better late than never!
Dec 25, 2009 3:23 PM

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Now that was a fun read! It must suck to be told that your precious skill is no more than a weak rip off of someone else's ability. I still would like Shinji to finish his fight w/ Aizen, eventhough I give him little chance of winning.

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Yay, I'm glad Ichigo is finally joining the fight.
Dec 25, 2009 4:31 PM

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I think Shinji should have went straight for the head instead of his arm with his first attack while he still had the element of surprise before explaining exactly how his power works and how Aizen should go about defending against it.
Dec 25, 2009 4:35 PM

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shinji = best character in bleach

he's made aizen shock-faced, got him bleeding, and has the best diss ever. he should have said "in your mother's womb" or something when he cut aizen.


my prediction is that since bleach is only around 380 chapters, kubo will not want to finish the series yet (since aizen looks like he's going to get finished in the next 15ish chapters or so) and gin will be revealed to be the true villain and escape, thereby starting the new arc.
Dec 25, 2009 4:40 PM

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Finally, Ichigo appears?

Shinji was sorta disappointing...but it was certainly more innovative than most BLEACH related things nowadays.
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I was disappointed with Tousen's death. In the end he was treated like just another Espada, even though there seemed to be room for some interesting plot development with his character. At least he kind of betrayed Aizen at the end, even though we already knew that Aizen won't show any mercy when his subordinates fail.

But this is Bleach after all. Seemingly nothing more than shounen clicès, fighting and some fancy characters and character designs.
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If I was tite kubo this is what I might do.

(☞゚ヮ゚)☞ After ichigo kills aizen he reveals that ichimaru and him were actually working secretly under Yamamoto who is real mastermind who wants to defeat the spirit king and take his place and therefore the main antoginist, so he started somekind of secret expermination with hollows and shinigami to make his own vizard army, maybe he wants some kind of vizard army to fight against the spirit king so that he may take his place and reign as the king of all.

Reveal that ichigo is the great grandson of the spirit king who is a mix of hollow and shinigami and the reason as to why ichigo also has one inside of him and Ichigo's Mom, Masaki, was the daughter of the Spirit King of Soul Society and also Kirio Hikifune 12th Division commander. she escaped from soul socioty after discovering that she was pregnant and that was taboo in soul socioty, she and The Royal Guard Isshin who she fell in love with escape to karakura to live a normal life,I would reveal a new world beyond soul society where the vizards and spirit king resides in.

I would end this arc with everyone fainting with the fight with aizen except komamura, shinji, ukitake, Shunsui, Unohana and ichigo. after yamamoto reveals his true nature and how he used ichigo to perfect his vizard expermination and how urahara and Yoruichi decived him and his mother Kirio Hikifune and helped her to escape to karakura.

Ichimaru, urahara and Yoruichi would fight all these captains who didnt faint and kill them all then frame and blame ichigo for killing the captains for going super hollow with his fight against aizen, Reveal some new charcaters from the spirit kings domain world where they pop up to see what the big fuss in karakura town and help ichigo to escape with them, finds out that the new characters are all royal guards from the spirit kings domain and, the seats of those captains that got killed by yammoto will be taken by the old captains who like the other captains will all be cluless to the true motives of yammoto ☜(゚ヮ゚☜)

I would also add some friends to the plot somehow who would also escape with ichigo to this new world, mainly rukia, renji, ishida and definitely grimmjow and nel for some hilarious fun in spirit kings domain.

Am sorry but I think Inoue and chad have lost that ooompf to stay in the show any longer and ther are far too many characters to maintain, tite has made too many and I think it time he started killing of some good guys because there just getting in the way and tie all the loose ends for an awesome bleach finnaly.

So what does everyone think of my brilliant new story line for bleach, its not too predictable I hope ^_^
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I was disappointed with Tousen's death. In the end he was treated like just another Espada, even though there seemed to be room for some interesting plot development with his character. At least he kind of betrayed Aizen at the end, even though we already knew that Aizen won't show any mercy when his subordinates fail.

But this is Bleach after all. Seemingly nothing more than shounen clicès, fighting and some fancy characters and character designs.

Tousen could've been a lot better character had his developement not felt so forced.
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Who the fuck was that guy that crashed into Aizen and Shinji's fight as if he was the main protagonist of this manga?


Nice.


...Shinji's fight should've been a lot cooler. >:|
Dec 25, 2009 7:33 PM

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EPIC CHAPTER.

The Shinji vs Aizen fight was AMAZING. Shinji's zanpaktou powers are awesome, and it was even more awesome that Aizen could see through them. x) Intense scenes. <3 And Tousen was just, omg, so sad. I feel bad for Komamura. &___&'

Ichigo, go DIAF. You are interrupting the epicness that's going on in Bleach right now. -__-'


Dec 25, 2009 7:39 PM

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GTF outta here Ichigo. I would much rather watch Shinji battle Aizen. I'd rather watch Komamura battle Aizen. I'd rather watch Orih- I'll stop now. But seriously. Give the other characters a chance please Kubo ;__;
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Tosen got splattered after thinking about being a good guy.
Awesome.
Shinji managed to hurt Aizen.
Awesome.
Ichigo is about to fight Aizen.
Awesome!
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