erikkamirs said: I like horror + mystery but not BL because of rapey BL tropes (straight guy "comes out" as gay after being raped/abused/harassed by persistent/obsessive hot gay dude for example). Also I don't like Junji Ito style horror which gets too gory/grotesque. How much body horror does this have? Can I read this?'Hikaru' (white hair) likes Yoshiki (black hair), but Yoshiki is hesitant to continue their relationship because 'Hikaru' is a monster who has taken over his childhood friend's flesh. They have a scene in the gym storage room where Yoshiki sticks his hand in 'Hikaru''s chest hole. It's only hot for people who are already into body horror, otherwise it's just weird. nls__ said: Can you elaborate on what these "subtle elements" I can expect?Simply put, it would be a shame not to be able to enjoy the work because of some of the subtle elements. |
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Maou_heika said: erikkamirs said: I like horror + mystery but not BL because of rapey BL tropes (straight guy "comes out" as gay after being raped/abused/harassed by persistent/obsessive hot gay dude for example). Also I don't like Junji Ito style horror which gets too gory/grotesque. How much body horror does this have? Can I read this? 'Hikaru' (white hair) likes Yoshiki (black hair), but Yoshiki is hesitant to continue their relationship because 'Hikaru' is a monster who has taken over his childhood friend's flesh. They have a scene in the gym storage room where Yoshiki sticks his hand in 'Hikaru''s chest hole. It's only hot for people who are already into body horror, otherwise it's just weird. it's definitely not a sweet wholesome relationship. it's not rapey either, but it's sort of uncomfortable? in the way that one is like an eldritch being under the skin of the other dude's childhood friend. so there's some persistence/slight obsession, but it's less rapey and more... inhuman i guess? like i kinda feel like i'm looking at a trainwreck waiting to happen lol. the artstyle also makes things feel uncomfortable in general. none of the characters gives off the "hot/sexy/handsome" vibe that most BLs have. most characters also don't look like nice people. the mystery is definitely there, in an eerie, small town horror folk tale/conspiracy type of way the body horror is less gore, and more on the eldritch, unnatural, supernatural side. like, you expect organs but it's a black hole, or you want skin, but it suddenly sorta melts into a bunch of artistic organ patterns. it's not super prevalent yet in the manga because most of the time the "being" is still looking like the childhood friend. |
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RobertBobert said: I appreciate you for the backup brother....Couldn't have said it any better myselfKuma said: this is manga magazine we are talking about. not LN label. yes but Young Ace is NOT those magazine. also no, dangeki daioh is not mainly publish yuri, wtf. that's comic yuri hime. Again. There are special manga magazines that are owned by LN brands that mainly publish manga adaptations of their IP. In this case, DD publishes a manga adaptation of Dengeki Bunko's LN. And most of their non-LN titles are either moe works like Azumanga and Railgun or yuri like Yagatte Kimi ni Naru. You don't need to be an expert to know this. And yes, Yuri Hime doesn't post "mostly yuri". It's literally just yuri magazine. I know that's not what you meant, but if you have another bout of argument for the sake of argument, then I will go to meet you You also misrepresented my comment by taking words about yuri out of context to accuse me of saying the magazine ONLY publishes yuri, but I'll pretend I didn't see it This is first. Secondly, publications outside the mainstream audience quite often publish rather unconventional works that are either outside the traditional works for that demographic or publish all sorts of stuff for a wider audience. UP is a web-manga sub-brand of YA's exist for this type of work. If you look at their portfolio, you will find not only GL/BL, but even shoujo-like manga. https://natalie.mu/comic/news/170195 Which makes perfect sense, as Natalie just calls it a "web manga brand" without mentioning any demographics. So the victory of this manga in the male manga section is really a formality. MadanielFL said: What's the problem with BL? lol Luisito14 said: So? Let the prejudice beside. Don t let it stops you to read a good story. Hikaru is a great manga, the story is darkening and intriguing, and the relantionship between the boys is sad, but they have a nice dynamics. People have the right to read what they like and refuse what they are not interested in. To be honest, I'm starting to get annoyed at the idea being promoted that you have to have an interest in gay manga in order not to be considered homophobic. |
Tokoya said: RobertBobert said: I appreciate you for the backup brother....Couldn't have said it any better myselfAgain. There are special manga magazines that are owned by LN brands that mainly publish manga adaptations of their IP. In this case, DD publishes a manga adaptation of Dengeki Bunko's LN. And most of their non-LN titles are either moe works like Azumanga and Railgun or yuri like Yagatte Kimi ni Naru. You don't need to be an expert to know this. And yes, Yuri Hime doesn't post "mostly yuri". It's literally just yuri magazine. I know that's not what you meant, but if you have another bout of argument for the sake of argument, then I will go to meet you You also misrepresented my comment by taking words about yuri out of context to accuse me of saying the magazine ONLY publishes yuri, but I'll pretend I didn't see it This is first. Secondly, publications outside the mainstream audience quite often publish rather unconventional works that are either outside the traditional works for that demographic or publish all sorts of stuff for a wider audience. UP is a web-manga sub-brand of YA's exist for this type of work. If you look at their portfolio, you will find not only GL/BL, but even shoujo-like manga. https://natalie.mu/comic/news/170195 Which makes perfect sense, as Natalie just calls it a "web manga brand" without mentioning any demographics. So the victory of this manga in the male manga section is really a formality. People have the right to read what they like and refuse what they are not interested in. To be honest, I'm starting to get annoyed at the idea being promoted that you have to have an interest in gay manga in order not to be considered homophobic. I'm just tired of people who say that you have to be forced to read and be interested in something in order not to be ashamed as a bigot. Maou_heika said: erikkamirs said: I like horror + mystery but not BL because of rapey BL tropes (straight guy "comes out" as gay after being raped/abused/harassed by persistent/obsessive hot gay dude for example). Also I don't like Junji Ito style horror which gets too gory/grotesque. How much body horror does this have? Can I read this?'Hikaru' (white hair) likes Yoshiki (black hair), but Yoshiki is hesitant to continue their relationship because 'Hikaru' is a monster who has taken over his childhood friend's flesh. They have a scene in the gym storage room where Yoshiki sticks his hand in 'Hikaru''s chest hole. It's only hot for people who are already into body horror, otherwise it's just weird. nls__ said: Can you elaborate on what these "subtle elements" I can expect?Simply put, it would be a shame not to be able to enjoy the work because of some of the subtle elements. Well, many yuri repeat this, especially action and ecchi. And I know a bunch of guys who un-ironically love it, as their fetishization of lesbians goes to the level of outright hostility towards men. |
RobertBobertDec 19, 2022 5:38 AM
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