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| After watching this episode, I found myself to be kind of disappointed with the ending. Many of the crucial answers that I was waiting for never came, instead, I got even more confused afterwards. But then again, I'm an anime-only watcher, so I'm not sure if they left out some important parts from the VN. Overall, the series was pretty good, and I hope that Chiru will be animated soon. |
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OmegaDenmad said: MarthX said: Episode 5 prologue and OP Lol I posted that in page 9. I really hope we get the translation before we get EP6 spoilers, we're spoiled enough already. Furude Rika is not Bernkastel. But I hope Oyashiro-sama appears and gives her a beating. You're right on both counts lol |
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imaginethekiss said: After watching this episode, I found myself to be kind of disappointed with the ending. Many of the crucial answers that I was waiting for never came, instead, I got even more confused afterwards. I could not have said that better myself. I was rather disappointed actually. The series did not exceed my expectations as I had initially hoped it would. I smell a sequel approaching. Umineko no Naku Koro ni Kai? Most likely. However I am looking forward for this anime to give me the answers I need in the future. Let us hope for the best. DarkIceXIII said: Likewise. Way to bring about a mind-stinging cliffhanger there DEEN. xP |
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| The sequel is called Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru |
| Ah~ I see. Thank you. |
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DeathfireD said: The hard part is determining if there was one or more killers. I still believe there is more then one involved but I could be wrong. It's pretty much a given. Especially if you consider the 1st twilight when the culprit(s) must overpower 6 adults. In my opinion there’s one mastermind, the same person in every arc, and (s)he has 1 or 2 different accomplices, changing form arc to arc. |
| and with the existence of the hidden port that is even more possible. Since technically a boat doesn't count as ON the island >:D |
| Well, as an anime only person I thought it was a great ending. I would ove to see a second season! -Insert Rage- |
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| Fye_DX finds it sad that people claim something is bad just because it's not as good as the original work... |
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Impossible said: Fye_DX said: Fye_DX finds it sad that people claim something is bad just because it's not as good as the original work... It's pretty legitimate when it lacks the vast majority of what was great about the original, and leaves an empty, soulless shell of a series in its place. There's simply no reason to watch this. It doesn't add anything of value the way an actual good anime SHOULD be able to do do its source material. Not to mention all the plotholes, Battler and Beatrice being constantly out of character and inconsistent with later major stuff, and many things that make it impossible for the story to continue. It's obvious to me that whoever decided what was important enough to go into the anime had never read the VN, because absolutely vital things were missing. Let's not be too unfair. It had one thing of value. the VA's. it's not their fault the producer told them to act out of character so BLATANTLY. |
| The ending was easily the most disappointing episode for me. I would have liked to receive some closure on the existence of witches thing, but instead I was left damn confused, or left to my own conclusions, maybe that was the point. I did not read the VN and I found this series getting weaker and weaker as this battle brought in newer elements. 6/10 for the series. |
Darklight0303 said: Let's not be too unfair. It had one thing of value. the VA's. it's not their fault the producer told them to act out of character so BLATANTLY. The anime opening is great too. |
dioptase said: Darklight0303 said: Let's not be too unfair. It had one thing of value. the VA's. it's not their fault the producer told them to act out of character so BLATANTLY. The anime opening is great too. True true moldy_tomato said: The only voice acting I really liked was Ohara's. She was the best yes. The rest were tolerable at least though you have a point about battler. Then again I think that he might have been able to pull it off if he had been told to act LIKE in the VN instead of some incompetent with anger issues |
| Going to ask the ultimate questionWhat in the world is that last riddle? Is the answer Beatrice or what? Is it also true that Battler is the only one left alive or can the rest of his family be revived? I just saw this again because epic Battler pawning Beatrice. |
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francismeunier said: Going to ask the ultimate questionWhat in the world is that last riddle? Is the answer Beatrice or what? Is it also true that Battler is the only one left alive or can the rest of his family be revived? I just saw this again because epic Battler pawning Beatrice. Battler didn't solved anything so the game is still ongoing. And Piece-Battler died in the end (last twilight), the last riddle is the cause of his death. |
| The SMALL BOMBS killed him. |
moldy_tomato said: Battler has survived until the end in all episodes. Even in ep4 he was shown as "missing" instead of dead. In other words, Battler is still alive, but is hiding from the eyes of society for some reason. And thus, Amakuttler was born. There is also this for the disaster theory. |
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| Absolutely. Fucking. Awful. I'm going to assume the answer to the last "riddle" was that she's Battler's mother, but I don't care enough to argue my point, or watch any sequel to this mess. |
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| Why is Beato being Battler's mother the only thing that anime-only watchers can come up with? |
| Finishing this was sadly delayed somewhat from it's proper schedule due to Christmas. Well, while overall the VN was indeed better than the anime overall, this episode was still very enjoyable. I cried at parts with Beatrice being impaled by stakes. Well, now the anime fandom has caught up to the VN fandom either way, at least the English speaking/reading fandom. Now all there's to do is wait on our savior, Witch-Hunt. |
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hirahira said: Why is Beato being Battler's mother the only thing that anime-only watchers can come up with? cause it's the easiest answer I suppose. some people look for the easiest answer to stop thinking |
babler said: Absolutely. Fucking. Awful. I'm going to assume the answer to the last "riddle" was that she's Battler's mother, but I don't care enough to argue my point, or watch any sequel to this mess. Try again. Ushiromiya Battler. I will now… kill you. And right now, there is no one other than you on this island. The only one alive on this island is you. Nothing outside the island can interfere. You are all alone on this island. And of course, I am not you. Yet I am here, now, and will kill you |
Darklight0303 said: hirahira said: Why is Beato being Battler's mother the only thing that anime-only watchers can come up with? cause it's the easiest answer I suppose. some people look for the easiest answer to stop thinking Because Kyrie being his mother isn't the easiest answer? |
dioptase said: Darklight0303 said: hirahira said: Why is Beato being Battler's mother the only thing that anime-only watchers can come up with? cause it's the easiest answer I suppose. some people look for the easiest answer to stop thinking Because Kyrie being his mother isn't the easiest answer? Don't ask me about the way their mind works. *shrugs* Also I too suspect that to be true :P |
| So are we to assume the real culprit died before Battler dies in the end? The theory of a bomb looks possible but a natural catastrophe looks kinda impossible seeing how in this case there would be more than 1 culprit... meh anyways I finally got my internet back I finished this anime...I liked it a lot 8/10 and yes I finished the VN right after I watched the episode...as a VN I would give it almost 10/10 lol also my blog on it http://gamesmind.wordpress.com/2009/12/26/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-26-end-final-thoughts/ Im too lazy to come up with theories now... |
game8910 said: So are we to assume the real culprit died before Battler dies in the end? Yes. My money is on Kyrie. I can't take the Jessitrice theory seriously. |
| Even though I really theorized hard that Beato was Battler's mother ever since Rosa's story in EP 3 about human Beatrice (because of the year similarity), the fact is Beato says that the "sin" has nothing to do with her. And I'm really, really sure that the sin has to do with Battler's mother in one way or another. So I'm on the fence. |
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| ..wow. That kinda sucked. |
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MarthX said: Try again. Ushiromiya Battler. I will now… kill you. And right now, there is no one other than you on this island. The only one alive on this island is you. Nothing outside the island can interfere. You are all alone on this island. And of course, I am not you. Yet I am here, now, and will kill you Time for the ultimate theory... Battler raped Beatrice 6 years ago (that is his sin, the red text about the sin not having to do with a connection between Beato and Battler has to do with the Battler that is Asuma's son, not the Battler that we know). Unfortunately Beato had AIDS. Battler gets killed at the end by Beato AIDS. ;) |
dioptase said: Exact the same thing I have been wondering about...why it seems every anime-only viewer assumes Beatrice to be Battler's mom..? I find it really impossible but cant deny that even I suggested that theory myself once before, just for the sake of finding all possible theories~ (I never believed it myself)Darklight0303 said: hirahira said: Why is Beato being Battler's mother the only thing that anime-only watchers can come up with? cause it's the easiest answer I suppose. some people look for the easiest answer to stop thinking Because Kyrie being his mother isn't the easiest answer? I find it unlikely cause if Battler's mom was the girl Rosa met back in 1967, the human-Beatrice, that would mean Rudolf/Krauss knew (and did) her, Or... she was Kinzo's daughter herself and Kinzo did his daughter... -_-' I find both possibilities very unlikely, but as said, no proof to deny that so its pointless~ Dark_Requiem said: wow lol, that even makes perfect sense for me xDTime for the ultimate theory... Battler raped Beatrice 6 years ago (that is his sin, the red text about the sin not having to do with a connection between Beato and Battler has to do with the Battler that is Asuma's son, not the Battler that we know). Unfortunately Beato had AIDS. Battler gets killed at the end by Beato AIDS. ;) |
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| Quick question i suppose will be a season 2 or no? if yes anyone knows when will airing? |
Emrahil said: Quick question i suppose will be a season 2 or no? if yes anyone knows when will airing? Maybe. DVD sales for the first aren't so hot. If it does air, 2011 is most likely. They have to wait for more games to be released. |
moldy_tomato said: Could someone from the 17 people we know, really have been the Beatrice on the balcony. I can't think of a way how It could be so. |
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Dark_Requiem said: MarthX said: Try again. Ushiromiya Battler. I will now… kill you. And right now, there is no one other than you on this island. The only one alive on this island is you. Nothing outside the island can interfere. You are all alone on this island. And of course, I am not you. Yet I am here, now, and will kill you Time for the ultimate theory... Battler raped Beatrice 6 years ago (that is his sin, the red text about the sin not having to do with a connection between Beato and Battler has to do with the Battler that is Asuma's son, not the Battler that we know). Unfortunately Beato had AIDS. Battler gets killed at the end by Beato AIDS. ;) Beatrice said in red that his sin has nothing to do with her. |
GarLogan78 said: Dark_Requiem said: MarthX said: Try again. Ushiromiya Battler. I will now… kill you. And right now, there is no one other than you on this island. The only one alive on this island is you. Nothing outside the island can interfere. You are all alone on this island. And of course, I am not you. Yet I am here, now, and will kill you Time for the ultimate theory... Battler raped Beatrice 6 years ago (that is his sin, the red text about the sin not having to do with a connection between Beato and Battler has to do with the Battler that is Asuma's son, not the Battler that we know). Unfortunately Beato had AIDS. Battler gets killed at the end by Beato AIDS. ;) Beatrice said in red that his sin has nothing to do with her. Beato says The sin I am now demanding that you remember is not between Ushiromiya Battler and Beatrice, but she also says that It was from Ushiromiya Asumu that Ushiromiya Battler was born.; so there are 2 Battlers. The sin may have no connection with this other Battler Ushiromiya but it could still have a connection with the one we all know. and come on let me enjoy my joke theory :P |
| Don't blame DEEN for ruining the VN, blame Chiaki Kon (the director). |
| The English Patch for EP5 is out! |
| Wha? And I was just there downloading the 4.2 patch (hadn't noticed I was stuck at 4.1). Downloading... |
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| okay, i smell a 2nd season prediction here. let's back to the vn. 8/10 |
hirahira said: The English Patch for EP5 is out! YOU'D BEST NOT BE TROLLING. All those Christmas threads on /jp/, and I fell for every one of them.;_; |
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