DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Syureria said: zDoug said: idk, but Sayu doesn't have the courage to try more bad habits. for the size of a teenager, masturbation and sex is good choice.This ending is the part that bothers me the most, why does someone who is depressed, lonely and running away from home have the great idea of masturbating for 2 months You are right, but what you feel is that there was no construction of this in this theme, of course she was presented as anti-social, she did not have romantic relationships, she was traumatized by her friend's situation and the icing on the cake was the reaction of her mother, she didn't seem to have any hobby. In none of these moments does she seem to have any interest in sexuality, do you understand what I mean? The problem is not that she is a teenager and discovering herself, it is that there was no development of this, it is very random and convenient. R77Prodigy said: Theres people saying she was masturbating for two months straight is that from the manga/ln? LN, vol 4 cap 6 if i remember correctly |
 |
| I can now say for sure that Sayu family is dumb.. Her mother acted like neither a mother nor an adult and instead yelled at a teenager.. her brother literally gave sayu money and told her to be "free".. sayu herself rather then going home.. started sleeping with dude.. did Sayu not realized how important a chatisty of a teenage girl is to her? and the most dumb girl would be the girl who killed herself.. . Man.. i'm flabbergasted by the adults/kids in this anime.. |
| Well at least the brother doesn't seem like all that bad of a dude....sorta. I guess he's got good intentions but did he really expect Sayu to fully obey his instructions of just staying at a decent hotel and calling him when trouble occurs lmao but at least Sayu's story is now fully revealed. Makes sense having that burden of being responsible for your friends suicide and on top of that being blamed for it would rek someone mentally |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| I might be wrong but Yuuko's voice remind me of Madoka from PMMM. Is it Aoi Yuki or someone else? Anyway, that was a very tragic past of Sayu. |
| So the school bully trope again, huh? A little cliched but okay. If I'm from a rich family and my mom blames me for the suicide of my best friend I'm probably going to leave to live with one of my other family members. I wouldn't run off on my own. And even if I did and my money ran out, I'd go back home after some time away. How could such an attractive teenage girl from a rich family not have more close-nit friends? I guess ultimately the author just wanted to write a JK/salaryman romance drama and everything else was an afterthought. Hmmm. Still trying to process but after today's episode, the holistic portrayal of Sayu what with her constant attempts at seducing the MC, prostituting herself, and the focus on her masturbating for months all just comes together to make her seem a little hyper-sexual and loose. |
 |
MoonStar9 said: If I'm from a rich family and my mom blames me for the suicide of my best friend I'm probably going to leave to live with one of my other family members. I wouldn't run off on my own. And even if I did and my money ran out, I'd go back home after some time away. How could such an attractive teenage girl from a rich family not have more close-nit friends? I guess ultimately the author just wanted to write a JK/salaryman romance drama and everything else was an afterthought. Hmmm. Still trying to process but after today's episode, the holistic portrayal of Sayu what with her constant attempts at seducing the MC, prostituting herself, and the focus on her masturbating for months all just comes together to make her seem a little hyper-sexual and loose. YES, that's exactly what bothers me, he is rich, he could just buy a house for her instead of leaving her in the world with 300,000. In no time (before the scape) Sayu was introduced as a person with sexual tendencies and suddenly she decided to spend 2 months masturbating. Does not make sense. |
|
marcioma said: She wasnt marturbating for 2 months. lol She was a teenager at the top of her puberty confusion and she needed something to help getting her mind out of the problems she had. Sex has the same effect of a drug. Yes, she does. During the time at the hotel she was masturbating all the time, this is presented on LN other people mentioned here and was also shown in today's episode. |
|
| Bully someone is really the lowest thing ever. There is nothing lower than that. Alright I think Sayu's brother is a good guy, he helped her a lot in the whole situation. And well...I know the mother said something very very mean and surely she regrets it totally. It was clearly her fault no doubt but she doesn't look like a bad mother who would ever abadon her child. I bet she is worried the most as a mother. Every mom is worried about their child. |
 |
| I felt like I saw this best friend got bullied and killed themselves story many times before. Sayu's reason to run away from home was weird too. Like, just don't talk to your mom for a while until your relationship with her gets better. I mean, was it worth it Sayu? |
z00nexMay 31, 2021 11:28 AM
 |
This episode is better than the previous one, but the animation seem a bit off. Mod Edit: Removed screenshot(only one permitted) |
dipItFooJun 2, 2021 7:58 PM
m3gp said: in case you're ignorant, masturbation is a great stress reliever and fairly common to cope w depression/anxiety symptoms as it releases pleasure hormones like dopamine so yeah nothing weird about it If you are ignorant, in the story she shows no sign of interest in this type of thing, even if to alleviate the pain, it would be easier for her to commit suicide also due to the mental situation in which she found herself. Don't try to make excuses for a poorly constructed story. Speaking of biology, you're right. (I guess) |
|
| Sayu's older brother isn't how I thought he'd be, so I was a bit relieved. But then he's partially at fault here for letting his sister run off like that. What was he thinking?! If I were at his position I'd probably take her back before she tries to leave and give mom a piece of my mind. I have a little sister so this did piss me off. I guess I'm still angry at him but for different reasons than what I expected. What happened with Sayu's highschool friend was tragic. :( |
| This is starting to remind me of one of those early 2000's anime where an alien girl ends up landing on earth, and eventually she has to return home. 🤣 P.S. That Shinji hand tho |
BestMillimeter18May 31, 2021 11:48 AM
 |
| God damn bullies. Poor girl driven to so much despair as to take her life. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
teofilusSW said: Gween_Gween said: should have shown her friends body what the fuck pathetic excuse of backstory, saw it from a mile You have to know that Higehiro airs at primetime, not like Wonder Egg Priority which airs at 1.30 am in Japan. This is also an issue for current Demon Slayer Season 2, regarding the content and animation's airing time. so they are showing this soft hentai in primetime no wonder japan is falling as a world power |
| Literally, the second the flashback introduced Yuuko, I knew it was going to end up with her killing herself. Granted, that was in part because of the imagery in the OP of Sayu jumping off the roof, but even if that wasn't there it was so obvious because this set-up has been done countless times before. That aside, I was also 100% right in my prediction that the parents didn't put out a missing persons notice for Sayu because they (or, well, the mother as the father isn't mentioned) care more about their reputation than their daughter's safety. Even more than that, the media blaming the Ogiwaras over Yuuko's suicide is utterly ridiculous writing to force Sayu into running away: how in the world would they be privy to any sort of knowledge that would come close to implicating Sayu in Yuuko's death, when there was no suicide note or anything? And then the brother actually supports her running away by giving her 300k yen, rather than just talking sense into her that the situation isn't worth running away over; I can accept Sayu being both immature and impulsive enough to run away rather than just staying where she is and ignoring her mother entirely, but I can't see the brother supporting that at all based on how he's presented in the present. More to the point, that means that the trauma Sayu has suffered since as she's moved from place to place is at least partially on his hands, given his choice to knowingly enable her stupid decision. Also, still zero explanation of how he found out that A) Sayu was at Yoshida's place and B) where Yoshida's place is. This backstory episode was terrible, filled with unoriginal and outright nonsensical writing decisions throughout. At this point, it feels like the author crafted the scenario first and is now desperately trying (and failing) to scrabble together some sort of plausible explanation to justify it. |
zDoug said: MoonStar9 said: If I'm from a rich family and my mom blames me for the suicide of my best friend I'm probably going to leave to live with one of my other family members. I wouldn't run off on my own. And even if I did and my money ran out, I'd go back home after some time away. How could such an attractive teenage girl from a rich family not have more close-nit friends? I guess ultimately the author just wanted to write a JK/salaryman romance drama and everything else was an afterthought. Hmmm. Still trying to process but after today's episode, the holistic portrayal of Sayu what with her constant attempts at seducing the MC, prostituting herself, and the focus on her masturbating for months all just comes together to make her seem a little hyper-sexual and loose. YES, that's exactly what bothers me, he is rich, he could just buy a house for her instead of leaving her in the world with 300,000. In no time (before the scape) Sayu was introduced as a person with sexual tendencies and suddenly she decided to spend 2 months masturbating. Does not make sense. The adults are quite stupid, yes. I should have emphasised that more in my original post. The author needs them to be this dumb to justify the current situation because he is clearly working backwards. |
|
zDoug said: m3gp said: in case you're ignorant, masturbation is a great stress reliever and fairly common to cope w depression/anxiety symptoms as it releases pleasure hormones like dopamine so yeah nothing weird about it If you are ignorant, in the story she shows no sign of interest in this type of thing, even if to alleviate the pain, it would be easier for her to commit suicide also due to the mental situation in which she found herself. Don't try to make excuses for a poorly constructed story. Speaking of biology, you're right. (I guess) Yea, I agree. That scene was really odd as there was no build up to it previously. There was no prior mention that she was interested in sexual activities etc. And while some people seem to justify it based on the sole fact that it acts as a stress reliever, I don’t really understand the point of that. If a similar scene was to happen with another series’ MC, out of the blue, would it be seen as normal stress relief as well? |
 |
Rinji- said: zDoug said: If you are ignorant, in the story she shows no sign of interest in this type of thing, even if to alleviate the pain, it would be easier for her to commit suicide also due to the mental situation in which she found herself. Don't try to make excuses for a poorly constructed story. Speaking of biology, you're right. (I guess) Yea, I agree. That scene was really odd as there was no build up to it previously. There was no prior mention that she was interested in sexual activities etc. And while some people seem to justify it based on the sole fact that it acts as a stress reliever, I don’t really understand the point of that. If a similar scene was to happen with another series’ MC, out of the blue, would it be seen as normal stress relief as well? that was the best scene of this episode kinda hot doe |
| Sayu's friend was so cringe, jesus. Either stand up for yourself or talk to the teachers. Her reasoning was also really dumb. Waste of a sidecharacter. Sayu's bro is another 2bit brain idiot. Hey here is some money. Just gtfo. Instead of confronting her mom and talking things through. Waaaaaaa I hate stupid plots. |
| rip Yuuko, didn't feel for her tbh. Well now we know why Sayu has trauma about going back home. What a bitch mother >:( |
 |
AnimeBaka_ said: WTF. Bruh okay first let me talk about animation. Even hentai has better Animation. Like it felt like slide show. Okay now to the topic. This story showing a 16 yr old nude and having sex is fine. They are discussing adult topic its also fine. Forbidden relationship is also fine. But what the hell is this story. Yoshida saying to his brother dont u care about sayu and asking him 2 days of time. Like what? Bruh he is her brother bro. Like if am her brother like i would have beated the shit oout of him. Tht brother. Like wtf bro. you leave a girl( high schooler) to be with a guy even after knowing. Like what kind of brother he is?? like clearly wtf???? I am 100% sure no brother would do that. Like where are these type of mothers. Yes they may be hard sometimes. But i havent seen anyone like her. Like this author is writing whatever he wants and oh god. Ok i havent seen people bullying other person like that. Like why they bully that MC frd? whtever reason they said it doesnt make any sense. and again these guys make cute girls and say male characters will surround them. And then they draw a girl with specs and pimples she is ugly like wtf is this logic????? i am fed up with show. like crazy. Like at first i loved it like hell. And now its like waaaah. But i hate sayu man come on bro. Like first go to your school make sure the bullies get punished first???? i got an eye sore atching this shit. First of all I'd like to say the English on your post is unmatched. I didn't really notice anything bad about the animation (not picky in general so yeah) but hentai being better is an obvious stretch. Also it's easy for you to say "brother bad he let sister run" but you don't really know her backstory or what he has seen happen to her, for all we know he fully believed that was the best course of action. I agree with the reason for Sayu's friend being bullied didn't make sense. Also I'm not sure what most people would do if their friend got bullied but I can only assume people deal with grief in different ways. Oh and finally these type of mothers do exist and probably more than we assume |
 |
ImmortalZero said: I don’t understand what’s wrong with people they bullied because of the reason sayu give a guy a rejectGot I hate kids. I don't know how they can go and bully people and think it's right and fun. Especially girls in this particular case where they attack a girl for rejecting the school's popular guy. Even during high school I was bullied to for no reason and even now makes no sense why they do it. Though it did feel good formulating a plan and getting them expelled. |
P O S I T I V E V I B E Sシ  |
| So the brother doesn't know that she whored herself out yet? So when do they fall in love? or is that way later in the LN since it seems like it. |
 |
| Holy hell... I knew she had ran because of problems at home, but I didn't think it was this extreme. |
 |
| I believe there were many ways to have prevented what happened in sayu's backstory, to begin with,why did sayu never ever dared to stand for her friend? i understand she was supposed to be timid or something but really? shes your only friend and witnesses how shes physically abused and won't even try to report the bullies? This considering that (for the most dumb posible reason the author came with) the bullies don't want to deal with her, she could have used her position to actually help her, but not even for remorse (because she IS the reason they bully her) ,she actually takes any action, shes just an acomplice on the act of bullying, and somehow the author intends to make her look like a victim? Anyway, when her friend is about to jump, why didn't she even tried to stop her?? to convince her not to jump off, or even TRY to say anything like i don't know... any reasonable person would do?... Then she goes to her house, and even if i understand she gets angry at her mom doing such questions, the way she reacted was just absurd, i supose they never ever had an argument in their life to leave the house just because of that, considering her mom isn't even related to what happened to her friend, it feels to me like sayu (the author) just wants to draw the attention of the tragedy to herself as victim (which she is not), instead of assuming any responsability, and then she runs away from it. Also, sayu's brother is something else, instead of trying to stop or persuade her not to run away, he helps her to do so? and comes with the dumbest idea possible which is leaving an underaged girl alone with money and no supervision, and not even visiting her from time to time to check. I won't even say anything about sayu's masturbation problem (not long after the death of her friend, wtf). The character's actions just don't make any sense, i lost all hope i had possibly left for this series after this episode. |
error5000May 31, 2021 2:08 PM
| so the big brother was actually a doting brother who just loves to spoil Sayu kek the mom tho... 10/10 best mother of all time |
| Is it not possible her brother receives similar inconsiderate treatment from their mother? I don't understand why he would help her run away, but I also don't understand hating him for it. Way too easy for a lot of y'all to judge |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. Episode 7 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Stark700 - May 17, 2021 |
175 |
by Muow
»»
May 22, 8:31 PM |
|
Poll: » Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. Episode 4 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Apr 26, 2021 |
282 |
by Muow
»»
May 22, 4:56 AM |
|
Poll: » Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Apr 5, 2021 |
428 |
by GHWolfKing
»»
May 21, 7:22 AM |
|
Poll: » Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. Episode 13 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Jun 28, 2021 |
302 |
by griddyweeb
»»
Apr 6, 8:37 AM |
|
Poll: » Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. Episode 11 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Stark700 - Jun 14, 2021 |
155 |
by mushi_Jyou
»»
Mar 30, 4:57 AM |