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| True End adapt: Sakura x Shirou Sexy Doll I loved the movie, this is definitely a masterpiece in anime history, all the wait was worth. I have to say I liked the second movie a little more because the atmosphere and pace, but this last movie had so much great hightlights that I cried in the end. The best thing about the movie:  Rider casual clothes 10/10, best girl in HF route. Rider/Shirou x Alter Saber is top 10 anime fights of all the time, I was almost crying again with the powerful ost together with the last scene. Talking abou ost i need a extend version of Emiya ost in this movie, it was too short! Kirei is HOT! too bad they didnt show my waifu Aozaki full face :( The epilogue is cute with the little moment between Rin e Sakura, they deserve all love. And of course Aimer epic music. Please Ufo adapt Saber Route e Hollow Ataraxia next! |
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| 7/10 all because of the salter vs rider, which totally carried the whole show for me(salter vs berserker still better tho). Also how did they even manage to make the overall quality worse then the previous movies or even UBW. |
| And it ends. Solid piece of animation and story. Feel sorry for puppet Shiro. No sex fo him. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
FrozenRaider said: Puppet body actually works mostly the same as a normal body in all the way that matter. Would be pretty bad product otherwise lolAnd it ends. Solid piece of animation and story. Feel sorry for puppet Shiro. No sex fo him. |
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| wish we could see angra mainyu in a flashback like the scene with the hgw founders instead of more nasu infodump, oh well illya scenes were rushed as expected liked the foreshadowing that kirei was still alive overall that was pretty good, now go make arcueid's route ufo |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| yeah the first thing i did was re-download the VN. The whole thing was kinda underwhelming and i feel like a fair bit was cut, but they landed the ending well enough. Definitley enjoyable trilogy |
| yeah lol every route had scenes for his mana boost only 😂😂 |
| Damn that last scene opened my Illya wound hard. Honestly they did a decent enough job with her parts even though they didn't include the scene from the remembering Kiritsugu snow CG that I was really looking forward to. Well at least this ending was nice for Sakura even though Illya's almost certainly never gonna get her own route. And now people should finally stop asking me why Rider is my favorite servant from the original Fate universe. Seriously she was amazing in Heaven's feel. |
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| After being tricked into thinking Shiro might become not awful in UBW, I repeat the same mistake with Heavens Feel. Still has the personality of a piece of wood. Kirei remains only multi-dimensional and interesting character. More holes then swiss cheese. Salter fights really only highlights of this entire movie series honestly.. the rating is baffling. |
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Zhens said: Or maybe we think the movie delivered by having those scenes.LuciferIAm said: Salter fights really only highlights of this entire movie series honestly.. the rating is baffling. VN readers filling in characterization, plot details, and emotional context from what they remember. Also, Demon Slayer crowd only here for flashy fights. Not at all baffling. |
| Breathtakingly beautiful anime, this movie is the ultimate feast for the eyes. The colors, animation and music blend perfectly. Medusa vs Saber Alter fight is fucking gorgeous, Medusa is a true Goddess. Shirou vs Berserker while short, is fucking epic, especially the scenes when Shirou surpasses Archer and the paintings of Herc's twelve labors. Incredible. The Holy Grail creation ritual that takes place 300 years in the past is very fascinating and bloody brutal. I didn't know to create the Holy Grail ritual the Einzbern's homunculus be squeezed like that. This was not in the VN, lol. Sakura's max suffering means nothing to Rin because Rin doesn't care. BUT she DOES care because Rin is a good sister (and a tsundere, lol). Despite what she says, Rin has always loved her little sister Sakura, only it took so long for Sakura to realize this. Also Zelretch, the big man himself in glorious animation, his Jewelry Sword is so powerful Rin can go toe-to-toe with dark Sakura's infinite shadow attacks. The little Shadow is adorable, it survives the attacks and turns into a dress for Sakura in the aftermatch. Kirei is peak manly, listening to this priest talking pleases the ears, seeing him running, fighting pleases the eyes. When Kirei purifies Zouken it was very epic. And many many things I can't include all here, they are all amazing. |
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Hello229 said: Pretty much what Zhens said. Heavens Feel has several endings to fill whatever reader void there is. Not to say the films ending itself cannot be criticized but you might appreciate it more knowing what the alternative is.Ufotable just keeps one-upping itself. My mind is blown how they're still able to not just reach but surpass the already absurdly high expectations in terms of quality. The story though.... First movie, I loved it. Second movie, I loved it even more. First one and a half hours of the third movie, masterpiece. But the ending pretty much ruined a significant chunk of my experience. The way Sakura was saved by Caster's sword and Illya "defusing"(...?) the Greater Grail felt confusingly convenient and mildly underwhelming, but it was fine since at first the ending looked really fitting in a melancholic way, with Rin and Sakura reuniting after Shirou's hypothetic death. Then his soul was "implanted"(...?) into a doll and technicaly revived...? Like, bruh, what's the point of having a dark and disturbing story, if a happy ending, that negates any and every permanent consequence, gets forced into it? Like it was all just a bad dream which everybody woke up from emotionally closer than ever. I know the majority liked the ending, but personally it really pissed me off how it just laughed into the face of everything it was building up for 5+ hours. But credit shall definitely go where it's due. Saber Alter vs. Medusa was hands down, visually the most impressive anime fight ever made. I have mad respect for studios and people who still pull of entirely 2D sakuga with minimal digital support, but everything considered, that one fight was just something else. And in so many other cases, be it action related or not, the whole presentation was just so on point. Special appreciation from me for Yuki Kajiura's music. So yeah, in the end, even though I think the plot fell flat, I didn't regret watching this awesome movie for a single minute. |
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| Can someone tell me more about the avenger and the Illiya sacryfice? These events felt totaly random for me, they didn't had proper explaination. Maybe VN backup it better? |
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Krunchy said: Pretty much what was said in the movie.Can someone tell me more about the avenger and the Illiya sacryfice? These events felt totaly random for me, they didn't had proper explaination. Maybe VN backup it better? Angra- he was an random boy some villagers thousands of years ago decided to "blame" for all the evil in their society. This pretty much elevated him in god-like status. In the 3rd Holy Grail War, the Einzberns decided to cheat(again) and instead of Berserker they summoned Avenger Angra thinking that he would be a strong evil god. Well nope, he is was just a weak boy since that's all he was. When he was defeated early in the war and absorbed by the grail, his concept as "All evil in the world" tainted the grail. Ilya's sacrifice- In the same scene as Angra, Ilya reveals that the true goal was to obtain the True Magic, Heaven's Feel, which materializes the soul. At the end she uses a weak version of it to save Shirou's soul from his destroyed body. Since it could now exist without a body, Rin and Sakura could keep him as he was till they found a new body for him. VN/Extra material info:If Ilya could use Heaven's Feel's full power on Shirou then there would have been no need for a new doll body. |
| @ssjokg Thanks for response, my concerns lie in a bit diffrent place. More like what was Illiya motivation, why she've done it? Did she had any gain in her sacryfice or it was just act of mercy towards Shrio? As for Angra we know that Kotomine wanted to summon it, but the same, he's motivation seems hazy for me. |
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Krunchy said: Because Ilya wanted her little brother to live.@ssjokg Thanks for response, my concerns lie in a bit diffrent place. More like what was Illiya motivation, why she've done it? Did she had any gain in her sacryfice or it was just act of mercy towards Shrio? As for Angra we know that Kotomine wanted to summon it, but the same, he's motivation seems hazy for me. As Kirei said, he was a born with a flaw, what other called happiness was agony and despair was joy. But he had common sense so he knew that this wasnt a good thing. Angra's birth is his way to validate his existence/birth. Was it alright for someone like him to be born? |
Zhens said: You wouldn't need to ask this if Ufotable hadn't cut so much of her scenes with Shirou. ssjokg said: Because Ilya wanted her little brother to live. Well, I though it could be issue of her attachment towards Shiro, but emotional build up was weak I couldn't feel that myself, that's why I looked towards VN. But I see, movie could be just too short for that. ssjokg said: As Kirei said, he was a born with a flaw, what other called happiness was agony and despair was joy. But he had common sense so he knew that this wasnt a good thing. Angra's birth is his way to validate his existence/birth. Was it alright for someone like him to be born? Well, that's the hazy part for me, it feel like Kotomine exist for the story, instated of he's creating the story. |
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| This movie was amazing. One of the best anime movie ever made imo. |
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Hello229 said: Like, bruh, what's the point of having a dark and disturbing story, if a happy ending, that negates any and every permanent consequence, gets forced into it? Not sure that I would agree with the lack of consequences here. From Shirou's perspective alone, he had to give up his lifelong dream, the only reason that kept him going, for the sake of a single person (while sacrificing hundreds of innocent folks in the process). Then he had to kill Saber who depending on which previous route was either a lover or a crucial ally before ultimately letting Illya sacrifice herself for his sake. |
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| VERY LATE post, but whatever, even though the owner of this OP is apparently disappointed, but whatever xDDD Probably one of the best movies I've ever seen in fiction. Visually, emotionally, and thematically powerful, it blew me away and I couldn't come up with a proper reaction other than to stare in awe at the deep beauty. Nearly every notable character was utilized to their max potential, especially Shirou, Illya, and my favorite girl: Sakura. The OST was just chilling, the fights, while not very plentiful, were a treat for the eyes to behold, and even the nuanced details were a nice touch to an already great display. It wasn't perfect by any means, but it was such a great way to make ufotable's likely last curtain call with the Fate franchise. |
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| Finally got to see this movie with my girlfriend today after arriving home from travel, and while I feel like the 2nd movie is definitely better than this one, this was still an enjoyable experience nonetheless. Not a perfect one due to some pacing issues and some removal of excellent dialogue to make up for time (at least nowhere rough pacing wise as the first movie where that ruined the film for me), but the key moments were really good and the animation was stellar as usual with bringing a lot of emotional weight too for its scenes. It was digital effects on steroids and I loved every second of that. Overall, I'd give the movie an 8. A bit generous considering the rushed nature and little issues present + the Kirei-Shirou fight was meh too and felt too out of nowhere and lacking enough context regarding Shirou's motives, but the movie was still a nice experience and ended well. Movie 1 - 5/10, Movie 2 - 10/10, Movie 3 - 8/10 Trilogy Score - 7.5/10 |
| Collector’s BD is FINALLY here!! I’ve been outspoken in the past about how Ufo have butchered parts of Stay/Night in the past, and I do still have complaints about HF. But, overall this final instalment was as good as we could’ve hoped. These anime are for people who’ve read the VN to relive their favourite moments and see things animated. I was disappointed that Salter and Emiya dialogue was cut short as well as Herc, but Medusa v Salter is the greatest fight in the history of human animation, so that made up for it. The time skip sequence at the end with the final shot of Sakura and Emiya crossing the line together towards a new season, spring.. as Haruhyaku plays... beautiful. |
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animejas said: e movie an 8. A bit generous considering the rushed nature and little issues present + the Kirei-Shirou fight was meh too and felt too out of nowhere and lacking enough context regarding Shirou's motives, but the movie was still a nice experience and ended well. That's the problem with Shiro. He doesn't really have motives. He just does whatever the plot needs him to do. |
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LuciferIAm said: animejas said: e movie an 8. A bit generous considering the rushed nature and little issues present + the Kirei-Shirou fight was meh too and felt too out of nowhere and lacking enough context regarding Shirou's motives, but the movie was still a nice experience and ended well. That's the problem with Shiro. He doesn't really have motives. He just does whatever the plot needs him to do. Someone slept through UBW. |
ssjokg said: LuciferIAm said: That's the problem with Shiro. He doesn't really have motives. He just does whatever the plot needs him to do. Someone slept through UBW. Muh Archer. Thing is, I like Archer a lot. It's utterly absurd who he truly is. Just because its written that something becomes something else, doesn't mean its some magical fix and it certainly doesn't make it a logical character progression. It's been a while since I watched UBW.. plus I fucking hated it so.. I won't be able to argue properly if you bring it up. |
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LuciferIAm said: Muh Archer. Thing is, I like Archer a lot. It's utterly absurd who he truly is. Just because its written that something becomes something else, doesn't mean its some magical fix and it certainly doesn't make it a logical character progression. It's been a while since I watched UBW.. plus I fucking hated it so.. I won't be able to argue properly if you bring it up. So you admit you like a character simply because he is strong. Archer is the same stubborn nice guy that just hides behind his cynicism. the first thing he does as a Servant is to be a butler. You called that generic. Guess only boys canbe geeric. Also I didnt talk about Archer's character, I am talking about Archer and Shirou breaking down Shirou's ideals and hypocrisy. Even if you think Archer is different it doesnt change that he broke down Shirou's character so that even you can understand it. But Shirou is just a generic boy to you because he isnt a big strong man. |
ssjokg said: LuciferIAm said: Muh Archer. Thing is, I like Archer a lot. It's utterly absurd who he truly is. Just because its written that something becomes something else, doesn't mean its some magical fix and it certainly doesn't make it a logical character progression. It's been a while since I watched UBW.. plus I fucking hated it so.. I won't be able to argue properly if you bring it up. So you admit you like a character simply because he is strong. Archer is the same stubborn nice guy that just hides behind his cynicism. the first thing he does as a Servant is to be a butler. You called that generic. Guess only boys canbe geeric. Also I didnt talk about Archer's character, I am talking about Archer and Shirou breaking down Shirou's ideals and hypocrisy. Even if you think Archer is different it doesnt change that he broke down Shirou's character so that even you can understand it. But Shirou is just a generic boy to you because he isnt a big strong man. Not sure why you are going on this cool/strong stuff since I never said that. Archer carries himself in a completely different manner. You've called Shiro stubborn.. which is frankly never a trait I have thought of Shiro at all. Is he stubborn because of his insistence on his ideal? That's not stubborn. That's falling back to something easy. Saving everyone is a pretty easy ideal. There's really not much thought put into such a thing. That's exactly why its generic af. Free to correct me but Archer gave actual thought to his chosen paths, I never saw evidence of Shiro having done that. Shiro doesn't even give off the vibe Saber does when it comes to saving people, despite being the same general ideal. Another reason why Shiro doesn't really feel like he has a personality. He's kind of like plot device the person. Anyways it finally occurred to me how to put into words why I and probably many others who hate Shiro see him. Everything I've said pretty much branches off from this, though I'm sure you'll still disagree. Everything Shiro does is a reaction to someone or something else. I'm sure you'll try to point out something but HF is only fresh for me at this time and Shiro basically never did anything proactively. Every action he takes is a response to something else. It's why he feels so shallow and hollow to me. It's why I call him generic repeatedly. Honestly you could say he's a lazy pos always waiting for the other shoe to drop. He knew Sakura was a broken person yet not only does he fuck this mentally unstable person - he doesn't proactively defend or protect her. He should have beaten Shinji to within an inch of his life as soon as he was aware of what really was happening/ happened. It may even be accurate to say he is a beta personality, a follower - following others to determine his own ideals and actions. |
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LuciferIAm said: ssjokg said: So you admit you like a character simply because he is strong. Archer is the same stubborn nice guy that just hides behind his cynicism. the first thing he does as a Servant is to be a butler. You called that generic. Guess only boys canbe geeric. Also I didnt talk about Archer's character, I am talking about Archer and Shirou breaking down Shirou's ideals and hypocrisy. Even if you think Archer is different it doesnt change that he broke down Shirou's character so that even you can understand it. But Shirou is just a generic boy to you because he isnt a big strong man. Not sure why you are going on this cool/strong stuff since I never said that. Archer carries himself in a completely different manner. You've called Shiro stubborn.. which is frankly never a trait I have thought of Shiro at all. Is he stubborn because of his insistence on his ideal? That's not stubborn. That's falling back to something easy. Saving everyone is a pretty easy ideal. There's really not much thought put into such a thing. That's exactly why its generic af. Free to correct me but Archer gave actual thought to his chosen paths, I never saw evidence of Shiro having done that. Shiro doesn't even give off the vibe Saber does when it comes to saving people, despite being the same general ideal. Another reason why Shiro doesn't really feel like he has a personality. He's kind of like plot device the person. Anyways it finally occurred to me how to put into words why I and probably many others who hate Shiro see him. Everything I've said pretty much branches off from this, though I'm sure you'll still disagree. Everything Shiro does is a reaction to someone or something else. I'm sure you'll try to point out something but HF is only fresh for me at this time and Shiro basically never did anything proactively. Every action he takes is a response to something else. It's why he feels so shallow and hollow to me. It's why I call him generic repeatedly. Honestly you could say he's a lazy pos always waiting for the other shoe to drop. He knew Sakura was a broken person yet not only does he fuck this mentally unstable person - he doesn't proactively defend or protect her. He should have beaten Shinji to within an inch of his life as soon as he was aware of what really was happening/ happened. It may even be accurate to say he is a beta personality, a follower - following others to determine his own ideals and actions. Now you pull stuff out of your ass. It is fine to miss something the series showed. To completely see different things is just amazing. Bravo. I have seen people hating on Shirou but at least it was within what the anime adaptations and sometimes VN portrayed. To invent an entirely different character just to shit on him is a first. This is pointless. Have fun making shit up to hate on something. |
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Hayle93 said: After finally seeing the last part of the trilogy, I feel a little disappointed. The resolution felt a bit anticlimactic. Tough this route is by far the darkest and recaptures the atmosphere of Fate/Zero, I feel that a happy ending doesn’t really fit. I was hoping for a bit more than that. As a big fan of Fate/Zero, I’m happy I finally got to see Kirei do something in this route, though I still felt, that he had way too little screen time. He is by far the most interesting character in this final part for me. Zouken basically dying 3 times was a bit ridiculous, but I’m glad to finally see a resolution for him after wondering what happened to him and his plans after Zero. Even though the story was a little disappointing, the production was stellar as usual. The highlight is definitely the amazing fight scene between Rider and Saber Alter. Ufotable has mastered the mix of 2D and CG animation. In the end I’m still waiting for a perfect sequel to Fate/Zero, which will never come. It’s a good trilogy with amazing production value, that doesn’t quite reach the heights of it’s prequel. Did you watch Fate/Zero first? Because i did and i agree 100% with you, it's not that i think UBW or Heaven's Feel wasn't good. It is good. But i felt that fate/zero had something more to it. After the first movie i thought it would be as good as fate/zero, but in the end i could not feel 100% satisfied. One of the reasons i think it's because i felt more attached to the caracthers of zero and not that much in F/SN |
ssjokg said: LuciferIAm said: Not sure why you are going on this cool/strong stuff since I never said that. Archer carries himself in a completely different manner. You've called Shiro stubborn.. which is frankly never a trait I have thought of Shiro at all. Is he stubborn because of his insistence on his ideal? That's not stubborn. That's falling back to something easy. Saving everyone is a pretty easy ideal. There's really not much thought put into such a thing. That's exactly why its generic af. Free to correct me but Archer gave actual thought to his chosen paths, I never saw evidence of Shiro having done that. Shiro doesn't even give off the vibe Saber does when it comes to saving people, despite being the same general ideal. Another reason why Shiro doesn't really feel like he has a personality. He's kind of like plot device the person. Anyways it finally occurred to me how to put into words why I and probably many others who hate Shiro see him. Everything I've said pretty much branches off from this, though I'm sure you'll still disagree. Everything Shiro does is a reaction to someone or something else. I'm sure you'll try to point out something but HF is only fresh for me at this time and Shiro basically never did anything proactively. Every action he takes is a response to something else. It's why he feels so shallow and hollow to me. It's why I call him generic repeatedly. Honestly you could say he's a lazy pos always waiting for the other shoe to drop. He knew Sakura was a broken person yet not only does he fuck this mentally unstable person - he doesn't proactively defend or protect her. He should have beaten Shinji to within an inch of his life as soon as he was aware of what really was happening/ happened. It may even be accurate to say he is a beta personality, a follower - following others to determine his own ideals and actions. Now you pull stuff out of your ass. It is fine to miss something the series showed. To completely see different things is just amazing. Bravo. I have seen people hating on Shirou but at least it was within what the anime adaptations and sometimes VN portrayed. To invent an entirely different character just to shit on him is a first. This is pointless. Have fun making shit up to hate on something. Lol, okay. Sorry I bashed your favorite self-insert. |
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LuciferIAm said: you're the one coming up with a self insert to bash on instead of the actual character, not his fault he's annoyedssjokg said: Now you pull stuff out of your ass. It is fine to miss something the series showed. To completely see different things is just amazing. Bravo. I have seen people hating on Shirou but at least it was within what the anime adaptations and sometimes VN portrayed. To invent an entirely different character just to shit on him is a first. This is pointless. Have fun making shit up to hate on something. Lol, okay. Sorry I bashed your favorite self-insert. |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| I will never get used to see Rin putting the cold bitch act with Sakura. Curious since I like Rin way more than Sakura or Saber but in the end, I guess I empathize with Sakura's character and her sorrow way more than I would like to admit. Ehh... what can I say? As piece of entertainment, this third and final movie was simply fantastic with god-tier animation and OST but from a narrative perspective... it could have been a bit better. Some parts felt rushed while others felt a bit lackluster and I think the ending could have received a bit more context regarding what really happened to Shirou (Illya using an imperfect form of “Heaven's Feel” to prevent his soul from dispersing after his body got destroyed) since it can be kinda confusing for people who haven't played the VN nor watched the KnK movies. Particularly, I didn't like how poorly they portrayed Shirou's increasing memory loss once he started using Archer’s arm and as I was sadly expecting, Illya's self-sacrifice didn't feel nearly as moving as in the source material. No surprise given that mostly all Shirou-Illya interactions were skipped or heavily condensed in the best of cases. On a positive note tho, that short sequence with Illya finally reuniting with Iri sure pulled at my heartstrings. Great addition honestly. Characterization for Kirei was also quite decent but not gonna lie, I wish they had expanded a bit more on the scenes with him reminiscing about his wife and his inner monologues detailing his inability to feel joy for the "good" things in life. Though being honest, I’m just being nitpicky here since his character still was nicely handled throughout this movie and his motivation for wanting to bring Angra to the world was quite easy to understand. Now as for the fights: Rider fighting SAlter was simply epic with Rider giving her all and that Bellerophon’s manifestation while Shirou was projecting Rho Aias gave me the absolute chills. Some part of me still considers SAlter vs. Berserker as the best fight animation-wise in this trilogy but given the emotional weight of fighting and giving end to the Servant that once protected you, I guess SAlter vs. Rider/Shirou ends up being far superior. As for Shirou vs. Berserker, it was also epic but too short for my taste. I know the guy had only seconds to perform Nine Lives but still. Buildup with Archer’s smug encouragement, paintings of Heracles' twelve labors and that Emiya remix were quite nice tho. Personal opinion: >Presage Flower – Best Pacing Execution >Lost Butterfly – Best Artistic Direction >Spring Song – Best Entertainment Display/Value Well… now that FSN’s main installment is finally completed, I guess this void in my chest will remain for quite some time. In retrospective, it truly was an experience and I’m absolutely glad I could be able to enjoy such amazing piece of work. 8,5/10 -> 8/10 - So, Ufo… what comes now? |
Aure0lin said: you're the one coming up with a self insert to bash on instead of the actual character, not his fault he's annoyed You're claiming Shiro isn't a self-insert, are you serious? |
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LuciferIAm said: how is shirou a self insertAure0lin said: you're the one coming up with a self insert to bash on instead of the actual character, not his fault he's annoyed You're claiming Shiro isn't a self-insert, are you serious? |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
Aure0lin said: how is shirou a self insert Dont you know? If more than one bitch likes you and you do nice things you are a self insert. |
EgoFra said: You're one of those people who thinks "I play as him in a VN so he must be a blank slate self-insert" whitout ever even played it, right? Because if not I really don't know what to think. And even in the animes only, how come he gave that impression to you? Shirou is basically impossible to self insert into for his way of thinking and how it's portrayed in every media (for better or worse in each case) To be fair, Ilyaverse Shirou is a self insert in the most pure sense. No trauma, all the housewife skills, if it is female she will fall for him, getting rekt by fights between the girls, walking in while those girls change clothes, more dense Yuki Rito. |
ssjokg said: hmm i see, and here i thought it was his suicidal desire to be a hero. obviously anyone who wants to be heroic must be a self insertAure0lin said: how is shirou a self insert Dont you know? If more than one bitch likes you and you do nice things you are a self insert. |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
Motikado said: Hayle93 said: After finally seeing the last part of the trilogy, I feel a little disappointed. The resolution felt a bit anticlimactic. Tough this route is by far the darkest and recaptures the atmosphere of Fate/Zero, I feel that a happy ending doesn’t really fit. I was hoping for a bit more than that. As a big fan of Fate/Zero, I’m happy I finally got to see Kirei do something in this route, though I still felt, that he had way too little screen time. He is by far the most interesting character in this final part for me. Zouken basically dying 3 times was a bit ridiculous, but I’m glad to finally see a resolution for him after wondering what happened to him and his plans after Zero. Even though the story was a little disappointing, the production was stellar as usual. The highlight is definitely the amazing fight scene between Rider and Saber Alter. Ufotable has mastered the mix of 2D and CG animation. In the end I’m still waiting for a perfect sequel to Fate/Zero, which will never come. It’s a good trilogy with amazing production value, that doesn’t quite reach the heights of it’s prequel. Did you watch Fate/Zero first? Because i did and i agree 100% with you, it's not that i think UBW or Heaven's Feel wasn't good. It is good. But i felt that fate/zero had something more to it. After the first movie i thought it would be as good as fate/zero, but in the end i could not feel 100% satisfied. One of the reasons i think it's because i felt more attached to the caracthers of zero and not that much in F/SN Yeah I absolutely agree with you. I watched Fate/Zero first and I’m really glad I did. It’s the best series of the franchise, and I’m glad I didn’t spoil it for myself by watching any of the other series first. I feel the problem is that Fate/Zero was made as a prequel to all 3 Fate routes, so each of the routes contains certain aspects of Zero, but there is no true sequel, that handles all of the surviving Zero characters and remaining plot threads well. One of the surviving Zero characters always gets sidelined in one of these routes (Kirei in UBW, Gilgamesh in Heaven’s Feel, Zouken in the Fate and UBW). You would have to mix all three routes together to get a great sequel to Fate/Zero. I also agree with you about the characters. The Zero cast is more engaging in my opinion. I feel that is because everyone is flawed in their own way and there is no clear protagonist until the end. You follow each of them in their pursuit of the grail and you can choose for yourself who to root for. The story is more intricate, the characters deeper and more mature and the clashes of different philosophies work perfectly. It actually reminded me a lot of Game of Thrones when I first watched it. I still like the different F/SN series on their own though. They are really good, but Fate/Zero is something special. |
| Extremely underwhelming and dull, literally just a pile of mediocre bs with 1 ok animation sequence thrown in and it’s still overhyped and overrated as fuck. Literally no plot |
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