lelouch4britanni said: lulio3000 said: Kapp What I dislike the most about many shounens are bad exposition, bland characters, cringy dialogue and insulting story I'm currently watching Hunter X Hunter and I'm pretty dissapointed. Gon is a horrible character with a very unrealistic unrelatable goal and behaviour. I just finished greed island arc..it wasn't bad..but it wasn't too good either. The best part of the series so far was York New arc.... Are you saying this to me because it is my only 10? I didn't really care for Gon until the chimera ant arc but I don't think he is an horrible character in his world. The anime have many flaws, Greed Island was a way too long build up towards the next arc and the climax of it was unsatisfying because the antagonist were bland, and the last arc is not quite there in terms of execution. I gave it a 10 because it is overall a really good anime in terms of what it is trying to convey and do and i can ignore many flaws, but I'm not going to do a review here haha |
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lelouch4britanni said: I didn't even go through your anime list I just said that because I'm currently watching Hunter X Hunter and despite all the hype...it's kind of ordinary..only a few good moments which were mostly concentrated at the York New arc. I just started the chimera arc today..hope it gets better. About Gon..I think his dad is an asshole..I don't think any real person will go through so much to find someone who constantly rejects you, unless you're psychopathic (which I think Gon is)..killua is a way better character because of how mature and level headed he is. Gon is risking his life time and again to find someone who doesn't want to see him...reminds me of sasuke and Naruto but even worse considering their relationship as father and son. 76 episodes in and I haven't seen much character development especially from Gon. Sure there are interesting characters..my favourite being chrollo and hosoka...but not much character development etc.... Hahah sorry but it felt so random to talk about it |
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__sobann said: welcome back I don't hate shounens but the problem maybe with the pattern some shows become too repetitive and fillers are a killers too I am with you on the repetitive part. Fillers I'm neutral about as I've seen them better than the actual plot once... but eh... they all spout the same "themes" of "nakama" and other similar shit. It feels hollow since none of them have a unique message. |
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| Talking too much when fighting, especially when a character explains their power to the enemies in details. Also when a character just stand like a statue when their opponent is transforming or powering up. They are sure talkative and dont know how to make use some openings. |
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| I'm not a fan of the genre/demographic/whatever mainly due to the fact that most of them go on and on and on forever like a soap opera for boys. I prefer stories with a beginning, middle and end. |
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lelouch4britanni said: In content AOT is a (meat) mecha. With a predominantly teenage cast, unlike seinen which typically has zero teens in leading roles. Except for it's CGDCT subgenre, of course :) AOT is a good shounen avoiding many stereotypes, has gray characters and no stupid black/white contrast, characters have inner conflicts and motivations and so on. There's some good modern writing in it. But even a well written shounen touching some darker themes remains a shounen as per the cast and the base story (hero's journey pattern still applies to AOT). Same arguments hold for Death Note, btw.AOT also avoids these problems..Though In Content AOT is more of a seinen. |
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| The reliance on fights over story but a lot of shounen also don't have this problem |
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| Predictable fights, annoyingly determined MCs, training arcs, deus ex machina, redefining world mechanics for plot armor, the screaming, and fake cliff hangers. I'll admit to not being the biggest Shounen fan, but when they get it right, I end up really enjoying some shows. |
lelouch4britanni said: SinOfSlothKing said: What plot conveniences? As for AOT, it's arguable it has plot holes and it also has plenty of dumb moments itself, like how Reiner kept surviving in Aot s3 p2, and some others. But yeah AOT is pretty good. Lust Vs Mustang...why didn't she kill him and havoc when she had the chance. Towards the end of the show there was a pattern where someone is in danger then someone shows up randomly or purposefully to save the day...it happened more than 40 times...watch episode 53 again..you'll understand.. About Reiner's neck..it was foreshadowed.. remember how Annie shifted her titan powers to her eyes in season 1 so she could speed up the healing...it's the same thing..it wasn't out of nowhere... I'd Like to hear your plot holes from AOT..I found none I have quite a few from FMAB..we could help ourselves better understand. Lust said that she thought they were gonna die soon and it seems like it, Bro Reiner surviving isn't plothole there are 4 smort titans and its not like they studied a handbook about titans |
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| As said in an earlier reply, MC's sparing even the worst of enemies in some shows is so beyond me, and then they end up becoming a good guy or some shit Also MC's or enemy getting flashbacks and using the power of friendship and some random promise they made as childhood friends to be able to overpower someone way stronger than them by suddenly getting some power they didn't know they had. This was something I didn't mind at first but now I've seen more shonen its in literally every single one and its so dumb and predictable. Compared to a lot of people on here I haven't watched a lot of these shows but in all the ones I have watched a lot of the characters just seem copy and pasted to the next. In MHA there's a lot of useless characters, this is in a few other shows too. Some of the kids in Class 1A shouldn't of been able to even pass the exam to get into UA in the first place like Mineta, Ojiro (who's done nothing), the electric guy etc In HxH the pacing can be pretty slow as seen in the CA arc (still really good) but could really use less narration. Not every one of these shows has an MC you want to get behind and see succeed either. There is barely any character development even for the MC, its rare to find. And of course filler. I think enjoyment is the most important thing anyway and for the most part I do enjoy these shows still, but I'm starting to really hate this power of friendship and promises crap that gives the MC special powers, that's definitely the worst thing imo, I can see why it exists, but its kinda lazy. |
lelouch4britanni said: MilkShakeT said: Lust said that she thought they were gonna die soon and it seems like it, Bro Reiner surviving isn't plothole there are 4 smort titans and its not like they studied a handbook about titans It was too convenient ..normally lust would have gotten the job done...but it's Mustang so ..no. It was as if the show was trying it's best to make us tensed... The fact that her claw was right in front of Mustangs face when he burnt her proves this. Lust should have finished the job. Man nobody I know thinks lust, xing, drachma, flasky dwarf, were plotholes. Your loss man. Lust loved Mustang at the end, and she was burned pretty badly, and its not like you can attack better when your full on burning your burns. I found some of your questions in www.overthinkingit.com |
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lelouch4britanni said: MilkShakeT said: did you say Man nobody I know thinks lust, xing, drachma, flasky dwarf, were plotholes. Your loss man. Lust loved Mustang at the end, and she was burned pretty badly, and its not like you can attack better when your full on burning your burns. I found some of your questions in www.overthinkingit.com Lust loved Mustang?... wow Thats what she said you can check itt |
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