Attack on Titan
| no, deku is the worst shonen protag, followed by naruto. |
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| ok so the fact that Eren turned into the villain of the show doesn't mean that he is the worst anime protagonist. Light Yagami did the same thing back then; he was the villain of the show but still a well written character. Eren used to be the hero, now he is the bad guy, u can't deny good writings tho |
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| cuz he's doing an act of revenge... next |
| I guess Kirito is the best protagonist for you then. He only produces lives with girls instead of killing lives. |
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Lovlis said: Yeah, you area right about that. Stil I found Mikasa's personality a bit too annoying. (Too overprotective regarding Eren.) And yes. For Armin it has reasons. Though I prefer different ways to show/explain characters like him. I remember dropping Re:Zero cause of the annoying main. Where hardcore-fans said he was a great char and there is a reason for him behaving llike that. I think you can do this without making chars too "annoying". This is kinda shounen. Already the "physically weak guy that is intelligent" and the (Eren) "guy that gets stronger and stronger with super powers he suddenly gets frome somewhere".Most of you’re reasons are a little weak. Mikasa being strong and cutting her hair does not make her manly lol that’s jsut sexism. Armin being whiny is realistic and he does grow from that. Lovlis said: Yes. "Scene stealer" because of the action. Plotwise ... imo there is not too much depth. Yes fans see a lot in there. And try to "push" the little hints we get. I agree with you on Erwin and Jean.Eren is boring... I see you’re a manga reader and I don’t know why you think that??? Hate him or like him every scene he’s in for the last final arcs are awesome and he’s a scene stealer. Armin and Eren and to an extent Mikasa are the three people who have gone through the most character development. And they are all very flawed characters, which IMO makes them realistic. I like Levi, but I don’t even consider him a top 10 AOT character lol, but that’s jsut me. Although erwin ofc is an amazing character and Jean is underrated. But imo the internal conflicts for other chars are much more interesting and depicted with more detail than for Eren - the shounen main hero. I much enjoyed showing the Marley/Eldian chars in the previous episodes. Imo Reiner grew really strong. (Disliked him in the previous seasons but here he got to shin. Strongest and the one with most development in the beginning of this season.) Of course the scene with him and Eren meeting was great. And the dialogue were Eren talked. (Both of them have there own reasons. And they get to face each other. And Falco just things "wtf is happening here".) But Reiner is much better. Just feels like they are a bit similar regarding their past (Reiner started weak as well) but just have a different development. While not main and less screentim the few backgrounds in this season were enough fo flesh out Reiner's char much more. He is not restricted to the shounen-type stuff that dictactes for a main to have a certain behaviour/development. (Again: I dislike main characters in a lot of anime. And find side chars more likable. I think in shounen it happens more often though than in other type of anime.) |
Luthandorius said: , you area right about that. Stil I found Mikasa's personality a bit too annoying. (Too overprotective regarding Eren.) And yes. For Armin it has reasons. Though I prefer different ways to show/explain characters like him. I remember dropping Re:Zero cause of the annoying main. Where hardcore-fans said he was a great char and there is a reason for him behaving llike that. I think you can do this without making chars too "annoying". This is kinda shounen. Already the "physically weak guy that is intelligent" and the (Eren) "guy that gets stronger and stronger with super powers he suddenly gets frome somewhere". Yes. "Scene stealer" because of the action. Plotwise ... imo there is not too much depth. Yes fans see a lot in there. And try to "push" the little hints we get. I agree with you on Erwin and Jean. But imo the internal conflicts for other chars are much more interesting and depicted with more detail than for Eren - the shounen main hero. I much enjoyed showing the Marley/Eldian chars in the previous episodes. Imo Reiner grew really strong. (Disliked him in the previous seasons but here he got to shin. Strongest and the one with most development in the beginning of this season.) Of course the scene with him and Eren meeting was great. And the dialogue were Eren talked. (Both of them have there own reasons. And they get to face each other. And Falco just things "wtf is happening here".) But Reiner is much better. I think Eren has one of the most interesting and ironic internal conflicts- choosing his friends or the world, his humanity/justice or his ideals, but at the same time enslaving himself to fight for freedom, etc. His character is filled to the brim with tragic irony. Mikasa- understandable. Altho she does grow from her initial wish to just blindly stay by Eren (part of the reason why she and the scouts chose to ignore his depression). Armin, I can see that but I mean it’s just a sorta logical character development. But what’s a little unique is that just as he is gaining confidence, a lot of that crashes down when he is chosen over erwin. You can see several times in the last arc where he reverts back to that insecurities. It’s not perfectly linear. Eren is a little diff from most typical shonen mcs provided that the powers he gained are not good, for him and for humanity. Like his breakdown in s3p1. And it’s not random or by luck, you should know what it took for him to get those powers (not to mention what he had to do to unlock all of it). His powers are what helped him become a monster. No, not because of action, but because pretty every scene he’s in has amazing drama or reveals or themes. For ex: his talk with Reiner, chapter 112, and chapters 119-122 which are often called some of the best chapters in the whole manga, chapter 131, etc. And that was no fighting, just understanding Eren more and more and his ideologies and psyche. That’s... literally the chapters where he got the most focus and they were amazing. Eren pulls the plot forward so “plot wise” he is literally the centerpiece of the story. Reiner is my top 3 and I love the parallels between the two. I personally don’t think he’s better because Eren’s direction and development had been there since s1. but we can have opinions :) |
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| There is some really bad protagonists out their. |
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| I mean People actually love eren because he kills innocent family and kid for no reason. Even if most will never outright admit it. Why attack of titan last season is so highly rated is also because of people loving such mentality. Obviously according to MAL world or net who do u think are trashy protagonist? The protagonist who uses "power of friendship" to save innocent people...Very illogical and boring and who do u think are awesome protagonist? The protagonist who uses "power of darkness" to torture innocent people...very realistic and logical even better if protagonist himself is tortured by fictional non living things...thats realism at its peak U are still new to Online common sense, I guess |
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| Lmao yes he kills innocent people. That makes him bad? Ye ok bud |
xiliaw said: good and bad are relative words. Someone who is considered good by a particular person might be considered bad by some other individual. It depends on from where you are viewing the person and his acts. For the Marleyeans eren is bad since he killed many of their people. But for the guys back at Paradis he might be a hero who's fighting for their sake. Think about that buddy. And as for my personal opinion on eren, that mf is gangsta.he litteraly killed an innocent familly and a kid for NO reason in the last episode and there still some ppl who like this dude ?! and yes you didnt see it because it was completly censored by studio mappa probably because its too choking for tv .... i mean just look at this https://i.imgur.com/TOC4Tzv.jpg what kind of sane person would like a mass murderer who kill for no reason? |
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| I can already smell the shitstorm in the threads that Eren is going to cause later. |
| Eren is amazing, he's one of the best protagonist. |
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| Eren is GOAT. He's the most well-written and morally complex character I've seen. |
| Another trash thread. Good job at spoiling it for other people. Next time I think you could try and make a thread like this and not spoil anything please. |
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| no subaru from rezero is. He spends all of season two p1 crying like a little bitch and getting rekt. He has these epiphanies, gets all confident and then BANG, shit hits the fan and he's a depressed little bitch boy again. |
| oh snap |
| Just because he did something wrong does not make him a “bad character”. If anything, it makes his character even more interesting. The Eren we knew, who would never do some trying like this, killed many innocent people. |
| Moral ambiguity = BAD CHARACTER!!!! Every single great writer from Ancient Greece to today disagrees with you. Wanting your fiction to be spoon-fed sanguine drivel evinces either a shallowness in character or hollowness of mind. |
| just make up a fanfiction where it doesn't do that after all what is reality????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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| No. but he's actually pretty bad. |
| Protagonist ≠ Hero/good guy |
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