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Dec 9, 2020 3:48 PM
#6701
z7ProSpyce said: DanBuk said: For the sake of a proper comparison, you should at least take the image from a high-quality source and not a pixelated YouTube video with terrible color correction. Actual shot: Yes man I really don't understand this, I think I will quit the site lol ... I can't stay here anymore, really. Yeah, if it's stressing you out, I'd recommend taking a break from here. The bottom line is that, the adaptation is underway, so no matter how much people complain here, the outcome is pretty much set in stone for the most part. So why not just watch it through and enjoy it for what it is. And if it truly turns out as terrible as people think, then we'll have an actual discussion. Also there are some really cool communities centered around discussing the show, who don't actively spend the majority of the time dreading its failure. I recommend Scoutposting on Facebook and Titanfolk on Reddit (both are manga spoilers though). |
Dec 9, 2020 3:50 PM
#6702
SirTristram said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: One throught from me: It always could have been worse. So at least it's not SDS S3 level type of shit. You just jinxed it... Seriously though, I expect an inevitable collapse at some point. If not, it'll be a huge surprise to me. And yes, I think it might even be SDS S3 levels of collapse. I hope i haven't jinxed it, but i think is bearable to watch than SDS S3 & OPM S2. So either it will be inevitably get worse animation because of the lack of time & recources or by some miracle at the end of the 16 eps I really Hope that we will get at least some good shot of animation for the most important scenes of this scenes. Im just hoping that will not get that worse to SDS or OPM level. But Im realistic and I know that at some point the animation will look bad, but at least better be for less important scenes. I still have a little faith in MAPPA |
Dec 9, 2020 3:51 PM
#6703
deg said: well I dont thnik this will happen. I think they are holding their best animations for episode 5-7. Im not questioning that guys knowledge but it would be very weird and contradictory if the first epsiode had the best they had. The good key animators are surely for the later episodes and the work of the director hayashi will come later. Anywayits too early to state somethingyaegerist-15 said: deg said: ThatShiny_Hex one of the users i see here on MAL ask this from the MAPPA affiliated key animator How much of a downgrade can I expect in comparison to episode 1? A: Quite a lot~ First episode is the hook for viewers so they focus most of the best staff here and take the most care in this episode (aside from a climax or the final episode) You will see the anime for what it really is right around the 3 episode mark https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336758747947913216 yep after the first 3-6 episodes normally the quality drop happens in most anime that is he is not pointing out episode 2 though he is pointing out around episode 3 and beyond |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Dec 9, 2020 3:56 PM
#6704
Also has any one from heard that MAPPA will be making adaptation for Chainsawman. I think they overworked their staff wayy above the human rights. I mean they have 4-5 (might be less) adaptation to make and now Chainsawman. I think its too much than they Can handle to do at this point. |
Dec 9, 2020 3:59 PM
#6705
I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. |
Dec 9, 2020 3:59 PM
#6706
I know AOT had a terrible schedule but do you think using CG help production alot for animators? Yes. Once a model is complete, this can be used for the entire production and eliminates the need for clean up/inbetween staff and colouring staff. They are able to produce the anime quicker this way and sometimes reduce the amount the animator has to draw in a cut! https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336821451769303041 yaegerist-15 said: deg said: well I dont thnik this will happen. I think they are holding their best animations for episode 5-7. Im not questioning that guys knowledge but it would be very weird and contradictory if the first epsiode had the best they had. The good key animators are surely for the later episodes and the work of the director hayashi will come later. Anywayits too early to state somethingyaegerist-15 said: deg said: this cant be true at all. The staff for the second episode was leaked todax and it looks more promising than the first episode. I think we will see the best animation in episode 5-7, 11/12 and 14-17 considering the manga content. ThatShiny_Hex one of the users i see here on MAL ask this from the MAPPA affiliated key animator How much of a downgrade can I expect in comparison to episode 1? A: Quite a lot~ First episode is the hook for viewers so they focus most of the best staff here and take the most care in this episode (aside from a climax or the final episode) You will see the anime for what it really is right around the 3 episode mark https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336758747947913216 yep after the first 3-6 episodes normally the quality drop happens in most anime that is he is not pointing out episode 2 though he is pointing out around episode 3 and beyond try reading this carefully more again First episode is the hook for viewers so they focus most of the best staff here and take the most care in this episode (aside from a climax or the final episode) its true for most anime the first episode is usually high quality and one of the best episode the show has to offer the other are just the climax episodes so yes there will be other episodes that will be high quality too especially the final episode like he mentions too |
Dec 9, 2020 3:59 PM
#6707
yaegerist-15 said: well I dont thnik this will happen. I think they are holding their best animations for episode 5-7. Im not questioning that guys knowledge but it would be very weird and contradictory if the first epsiode had the best they had. The good key animators are surely for the later episodes and the work of the director hayashi will come later. Anywayits too early to state something He also said this "(aside from a climax or the final episode)" so that probably means climax episodes should be equal in quality or slightly better. The rest will be worse though. Also, having a better staff in a certain episode doesn't have to translate to the screen. If number x episode has twice as much work compared to ep1, those better staff might not be able to overcompensate and make it a better ep overall. It isn't right to estimate the overall quality of an episode by looking at the staff. MironBiron tried to do it for the season as a whole and how much he was mistaken can be seen. Just don't except next episodes to be better than the first ep and you should be golden. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:00 PM
#6708
keragamming said: logh looks like garbage Lmao that’s not true. It’s one of the most well directed series I’ve ever seen. @MAQS The thing about the reanimated cuts in LOGH is that they’re there throughout the entire series. They occasionally pop up and they’re clunky as hell, but somehow they manage to become part of the show, they don’t actually feel alien when you rewatch the series. z7ProSpyce said: So I not understand, because now for me you are being very vague, is like you are lost in your thoughs because this cause a impact in you. We just have different perspectives brother. I hyped myself by researching the staff but the schedule didn’t allow them to deliver according to their talent. Look at my thread again if you want. The expectations that my research raised were grounded in reality, but didn’t take into account the terrible schedule (Hayashi was literally still working on Dorohedoro during production of EP1, Tomohiro wasn’t able to participate in the actual production of the show) as well as the staff’s inexperience with Attack on Titan. crypt0l0gy said: Details in art and composition helps me to understand and putting together what I‘m watching. Remember the boulder throw in S3P2 where the camera zooms on Erwin? Compare the impact and effect of that with this regarding visual storytelling and you see what I mean. And it isn’t even hard to achieve within a slightly healthier schedule. Like, show us a fast-paced sequence of character close-ups when shit hits the fan. A fierce close-up of Colt in the beginning of the episode when he gives Magath the bad news. Where the hell is the tension? |
Dec 9, 2020 4:00 PM
#6709
berutoruto said: hinako49 said: berutoruto said: I wondered if the first 3 seasons are not handled by Wit , will this series still be a classic or huge as it is with its story alone.... It is undeniable WIT has done a great job adapting the first 3 seasons and leading it to its crowned position among other anime & no offence to isayama, his art style in early days doesn't in the slightest impress me in any ways, i only managed to pick up manga after end of season 3, so i gotta say VISUALS does play a big role despite people been claiming the story content is the primary factor to keep the readers attached....but manga and anime are ultimately 2 different visual mediums as manga relied hugely on the authors art style and story board skills but anime itself can deliver more than that through music, voice acting, story board & animation etc.., so honestly to a regular fans like me, ANY studio that had adapted the early seasons of AOT anime gonna triumph the manga regardless ...and the thing with mappa right now is we been assessing it comparatively with WIT works...which is understandable because that's what the fans expected it to be... but my point is the whole scenario would probably reversed if it wasn't WIT doing the first 3 seasons but some other mediocre studio and with mappa handling this final season, fans will probably praise them for the level of works they had done now, so what I am trying to say here is how should we asses this anime objectively? i do think this first ep has flaws too but i am comparing that with manga rather to wit past seasons because isayama's work at this point has really come to surpass even the anime itself, i can enjoy the manga as much with only ost playing in the back of it... Also, in the Mappa staff interviews even Cao himself are stressing things gonna be different this season, so constantly comparing the wit works and mappa's are not wrong but does it really do justice to mappa ??? To me, the manga shall be the reference criteria to judge if this anime adaptation is done well, in that sense mappa are doing a pretty good job so far despite some of the flaws in it...how do you guys think? should we judge the anime with manga or with the past seasons quality? Yeah agreed with most of what you said, as a manga reader myself i cared more about the story development in manga at this point and i believe a faithful adaptation to the manga content will easily earn AOT series the best anime title regardless of the studio handling it as long as it's NOT seven deadly sins s3 quality lmaaoo XD but the thing is, we manga readers can compare the anime adaptation to manga. then how about the anime onlys? I think this is why there are so much debates now because most anime onlys are used to WIT style in that 3 seasons and those are the only source they can refer to in judging the finals season quality and isayama himself too referring the anime as the final form of his work..so this posed a really tough scenario here such that people split on the opinions of whether to judge this anime from its predecessor or the source material itself ...😕 lolllll i totally forgot about the anime onlys.....yeah it's true for anime-onlys they could only refer to the past seasons quality to judge , because to them it is unfair to get a downgrade treatment after you had such great animation feast in early seasons, so probably the studio change is minor and adaptable to regular fans who are more attached to story , but for some other fans that cared more than that would be deeply disappointed for what they are getting here from Mappa :/ Anime onlys like me will experience this story for first time so if its good as manga readers say they will stop complain around couple of episodes. For me story its very good from first episode and quality is lets say "watchable" It's not the kind of quality that kills the viewing pleasure in my eyes like for example SDS 3. And I will say it again, no offense for fans but sadly good animation is all shows like SDS have to offer so without its just shit XD. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:04 PM
#6710
deg said: I know AOT had a terrible schedule but do you think using CG help production alot for animators? Yes. Once a model is complete, this can be used for the entire production and eliminates the need for clean up/inbetween staff and colouring staff. They are able to produce the anime quicker this way and sometimes reduce the amount the animator has to draw in a cut! https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336821451769303041 yaegerist-15 said: deg said: yaegerist-15 said: deg said: this cant be true at all. The staff for the second episode was leaked todax and it looks more promising than the first episode. I think we will see the best animation in episode 5-7, 11/12 and 14-17 considering the manga content. ThatShiny_Hex one of the users i see here on MAL ask this from the MAPPA affiliated key animator How much of a downgrade can I expect in comparison to episode 1? A: Quite a lot~ First episode is the hook for viewers so they focus most of the best staff here and take the most care in this episode (aside from a climax or the final episode) You will see the anime for what it really is right around the 3 episode mark https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336758747947913216 yep after the first 3-6 episodes normally the quality drop happens in most anime that is he is not pointing out episode 2 though he is pointing out around episode 3 and beyond try reading this carefully more again First episode is the hook for viewers so they focus most of the best staff here and take the most care in this episode (aside from a climax or the final episode) its true for most anime the first episode is usually high quality and one of the best episode the show has to offer the other are just the climax episodes so yes there will be other episodes that will be high quality too especially the final episode like he mentions too SirTristram said: lmao yes I got it now while readind it for the second time. If the climax episodes are better and the rest is decent while the source material is consistent, then it makes me happy. guess Ill quit MAL for now, its getting on my nerve and I cant think clearly. Anyway thank you guys for the explanation yaegerist-15 said: well I dont thnik this will happen. I think they are holding their best animations for episode 5-7. Im not questioning that guys knowledge but it would be very weird and contradictory if the first epsiode had the best they had. The good key animators are surely for the later episodes and the work of the director hayashi will come later. Anywayits too early to state something He also said this "(aside from a climax or the final episode)" so that probably means climax episodes should be equal in quality or slightly better. The rest will be worse though. Also, having a better staff in a certain episode doesn't have to translate to the screen. If number x episode has twice as much work compared to ep1, those better staff might not be able to overcompensate and make it a better ep overall. It isn't right to estimate the overall quality of an episode by looking at the staff. MironBiron tried to do it for the season as a whole and how much he was mistaken can be seen. Just don't except next episodes to be better than the first ep and you should be golden. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Dec 9, 2020 4:07 PM
#6711
MAQS said: the climax episodes filled with dialoge like 4,5,15 and 16 will be definitely directed by hayashi. I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Dec 9, 2020 4:11 PM
#6712
Production issues aside, we still aren’t sure whether we’ll see Chapters 120-122 in these 16 episodes. If episode 9 ends somewhere in the first half of chapter 107, we’re dealing with a pacing of 1.8 chapters per episode, and if it consistently stays like that, the 16th episode will end with chapter 119. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:11 PM
#6713
yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: the climax episodes filled with dialoge like 4,5,15 and 16 will be definitely directed by hayashi. I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. As for the rest episodes i just hope to have decent animation & to be watchable like ep 1, it wasn't the best ep but with this "quality" of animation for the less important eps i think i will let it pass. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:13 PM
#6714
MAPPA_Enthusiast said: Fair working conditions, in Japan? Whats that?Also has any one from heard that MAPPA will be making adaptation for Chainsawman. I think they overworked their staff wayy above the human rights. I mean they have 4-5 (might be less) adaptation to make and now Chainsawman. I think its too much than they Can handle to do at this point. Also regarding a potential dip in quality, thats something WIT also had in every season. It wasnt jarring most of the time but still noticeable. Curious in which episodes we’ll notice it the most. Oh well, anime production companies are really just in it for themselves. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:13 PM
#6715
MironBiron said: Production issues aside, we still aren’t sure whether we’ll see Chapters 120-122 in these 16 episodes. If episode 9 ends somewhere in the first half of chapter 107, we’re dealing with a pacing of 1.8 chapters per episode, and if it consistently stays like that, the 16th episode will end with chapter 119. That would be biggest cliffhanger recenty made in the entire anime comunity. Maybe one of the best i would say if Hayashi do it justice. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:16 PM
#6716
MAPPA_Enthusiast said: dont be that pessimistic bro. We will even see better animation in some of the later episodes. Mappa will surprise us positively and the story with the plot points and developments along with hayashi as the director will lead this season to good quality. But Im not that toxic to insult the people here that are pessimistic about this season, evereyone has their own view and opinion so let us all just enjoy this season and make statements after a couple episodesyaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. As for the rest episodes i just hope to have decent animation & to be watchable like ep 1, it wasn't the best ep but with this "quality" of animation for the less important eps i think i will let it pass. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Dec 9, 2020 4:18 PM
#6717
Sourire said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: Fair working conditions, in Japan? Whats that?Also has any one from heard that MAPPA will be making adaptation for Chainsawman. I think they overworked their staff wayy above the human rights. I mean they have 4-5 (might be less) adaptation to make and now Chainsawman. I think its too much than they Can handle to do at this point. Also regarding a potential dip in quality, thats something WIT also had in every season. It wasnt jarring most of the time but still noticeable. Curious in which episodes we’ll notice it the most. Oh well, anime production companies are really just in it for themselves. If by dip you mean donwgrade in animation quality (sorry english is my second language) then i would this it would be either for information scenes where much animation it isnt required or for heavy action scenes where it would be impossible to stay consistent in the flashy scenes i guess |
Dec 9, 2020 4:19 PM
#6718
MAPPA_Enthusiast said: I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. Same here. I still hope to see some of my favorite moments get unique treatment. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:25 PM
#6719
yaegerist-15 said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: dont be that pessimistic bro. We will even see better animation in some of the later episodes. Mappa will surprise us positively and the story with the plot points and developments along with hayashi as the director will lead this season to good quality. But Im not that toxic to insult the people here that are pessimistic about this season, evereyone has their own view and opinion so let us all just enjoy this season and make statements after a couple episodesyaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: the climax episodes filled with dialoge like 4,5,15 and 16 will be definitely directed by hayashi. I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. As for the rest episodes i just hope to have decent animation & to be watchable like ep 1, it wasn't the best ep but with this "quality" of animation for the less important eps i think i will let it pass. Man you are one of the few left optimists around here. Im just right in the middle of being optimists or realistist. I hope from the bottom of my hear that They will do justice for both the story pacing & animation. But my question is : How to stay possitive around such hate or pesimism every where. I watched the Ep more than 8 times and I think i get used to the cg. In the first watch i got used to the characters designs, but i had to take more time to get used for CD titan. But not i only hope that the staff doesnt have some irreversible injuries or conditions (or worse) and they deliver good adaptation. I still have some faith & hope for good news. But i am surrounded from every side with negative thoughts. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:30 PM
#6720
MironBiron said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. Same here. I still hope to see some of my favorite moments get unique treatment. I think the most crucial thing is to wait till the season ends or at least we have some more episodes to judge how they will do the more important scenes. Also did you know that january we will get ch 136 in 9th Jan and in 10th of Jan we will get ep 5 and you know whats in there cough*ch100*cough. I think then it will be a feast for everyone both anime onlues & manga readers |
Dec 9, 2020 4:35 PM
#6721
How awesome would it be if Hayashi steps in, uses the limitations to the show’s advantage, and gives us a weird, but unique version of Attack on Titan? Like, the OP is fucking weird but the first episode didn’t reflect that at all (aside from some weird uses of static manga expressions). I’d rather have a strange, low budget, but very well directed adaptation of Attack on Titan than a cowardly adaptation that floats somewhere in-between the static roughness of the manga, and the sharp, close-up direction of the anime, without ever really mastering one of the two. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:37 PM
#6722
MironBiron said: How awesome would it be if Hayashi steps in, uses the limitations to the show’s advantage, and gives us a weird, but unique version of Attack on Titan? Like, the OP is fucking weird but the first episode didn’t reflect that at all (aside from some weird uses of static manga expressions). I’d rather have a strange, low budget, but very well directed adaptation of Attack on Titan than a cowardly adaptation that floats somewhere in-between the static roughness of the manga, and the sharp, close-up direction of the anime, without ever really mastering one of the two. No one could have said it better king! |
Dec 9, 2020 4:44 PM
#6723
MironBiron said: How awesome would it be if Hayashi steps in, uses the limitations to the show’s advantage, and gives us a weird, but unique version of Attack on Titan? Like, the OP is fucking weird but the first episode didn’t reflect that at all (aside from some weird uses of static manga expressions). I’d rather have a strange, low budget, but very well directed adaptation of Attack on Titan than a cowardly adaptation that floats somewhere in-between the static roughness of the manga, and the sharp, close-up direction of the anime, without ever really mastering one of the two. Trust me, after three seasons you wouldn't want that "weird and unique" version of AoT. Other people wouldn't want it either. You've started to have expectations for the show and Hayashi again. Learn from your mistakes and don't repeat the same cycle of naive hope, facts are all in front of you. It shouldn't be this easy to fall into the same trap. Just a friendly, or maybe a grim, reminder. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:46 PM
#6724
SirTristram said: You've started to have expectations from the show and Hayashi again. Learn from your mistakes and don't repeat the same cycle of naive hope, facts are all in front of you. It shouldn't be this easy to fall in to the same trap. I’m watching the episode again right now. It helps me keep my expectations as low as possible. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:47 PM
#6725
MAPPA_Enthusiast said: I watched the episode 3 times and personally like the CGI except for the beast titan (flu). Animation, artsstyle, direction and music was on point for me (mostly). But I think most of the negative/pessimistic people just worry too much but I cant blame them. Everyone here invested several years of the anime and manga and we all want a good adaption. But to make it clear: I just rewatched the reiner vs eren fight in season 3 and it wasnt that good. It was more like a slideshow but the good sakuga scene with the survey corps and their ogm made the action moments for me and we will see that kind of 2d animation for sure. Quality of s3 p2 wasnt as good as season 1 or even season 2 but its still my favorite season so far because it was good in the most crucial moments. And season 4 will be even better storywise so everyone here will be pleasured with the good 2d animation in the best scenes and the godly direction of hayashi in the dialogs and story twists. Fight me if Im wrong later but have some faith in the staffyaegerist-15 said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: the climax episodes filled with dialoge like 4,5,15 and 16 will be definitely directed by hayashi. I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. As for the rest episodes i just hope to have decent animation & to be watchable like ep 1, it wasn't the best ep but with this "quality" of animation for the less important eps i think i will let it pass. Man you are one of the few left optimists around here. Im just right in the middle of being optimists or realistist. I hope from the bottom of my hear that They will do justice for both the story pacing & animation. But my question is : How to stay possitive around such hate or pesimism every where. I watched the Ep more than 8 times and I think i get used to the cg. In the first watch i got used to the characters designs, but i had to take more time to get used for CD titan. But not i only hope that the staff doesnt have some irreversible injuries or conditions (or worse) and they deliver good adaptation. I still have some faith & hope for good news. But i am surrounded from every side with negative thoughts. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Dec 9, 2020 4:49 PM
#6726
MironBiron said: I’m watching the episode again right now. It helps me keep my expectations as low as possible. Expect the rest of the episodes to look like that and you won't be disappointed. Even though Hayashi steps in like how you imagine, which is unrealistic to begin with, a single man can't be a savior of a huge production. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:52 PM
#6727
yaegerist-15 said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: I watched the episode 3 times and personally like the CGI except for the beast titan (flu). Animation, artsstyle, direction and music was on point for me (mostly). But I think most of the negative/pessimistic people just worry too much but I cant blame them. Everyone here invested several years of the anime and manga and we all want a good adaption. But to make it clear: I just rewatched the reiner vs eren fight in season 3 and it wasnt that good. It was more like a slideshow but the good sakuga scene with the survey corps and their ogm made the action moments for me and we will see that kind of 2d animation for sure. Quality of s3 p2 wasnt as good as season 1 or even season 2 but its still my favorite season so far because it was good in the most crucial moments. And season 4 will be even better storywise so everyone here will be pleasured with the good 2d animation in the best scenes and the godly direction of hayashi in the dialogs and story twists. Fight me if Im wrong later but have some faith in the staffyaegerist-15 said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: dont be that pessimistic bro. We will even see better animation in some of the later episodes. Mappa will surprise us positively and the story with the plot points and developments along with hayashi as the director will lead this season to good quality. But Im not that toxic to insult the people here that are pessimistic about this season, evereyone has their own view and opinion so let us all just enjoy this season and make statements after a couple episodesyaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: the climax episodes filled with dialoge like 4,5,15 and 16 will be definitely directed by hayashi. I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. As for the rest episodes i just hope to have decent animation & to be watchable like ep 1, it wasn't the best ep but with this "quality" of animation for the less important eps i think i will let it pass. Man you are one of the few left optimists around here. Im just right in the middle of being optimists or realistist. I hope from the bottom of my hear that They will do justice for both the story pacing & animation. But my question is : How to stay possitive around such hate or pesimism every where. I watched the Ep more than 8 times and I think i get used to the cg. In the first watch i got used to the characters designs, but i had to take more time to get used for CD titan. But not i only hope that the staff doesnt have some irreversible injuries or conditions (or worse) and they deliver good adaptation. I still have some faith & hope for good news. But i am surrounded from every side with negative thoughts. Im not the type who wants to fight People or to prove that im right. Im only wanting to keep my faith in Hayashi to do justice. And you man, you are really helping me staying still faithful & psoitive. Im glad that there are still People good like you around all the toxicity everywhere. |
Dec 9, 2020 4:53 PM
#6728
MAPPA_Enthusiast said: Yes man. Lets call it a day now and enjoy the episodes and the hypeyaegerist-15 said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: yaegerist-15 said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: dont be that pessimistic bro. We will even see better animation in some of the later episodes. Mappa will surprise us positively and the story with the plot points and developments along with hayashi as the director will lead this season to good quality. But Im not that toxic to insult the people here that are pessimistic about this season, evereyone has their own view and opinion so let us all just enjoy this season and make statements after a couple episodesyaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: the climax episodes filled with dialoge like 4,5,15 and 16 will be definitely directed by hayashi. I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. As for the rest episodes i just hope to have decent animation & to be watchable like ep 1, it wasn't the best ep but with this "quality" of animation for the less important eps i think i will let it pass. Man you are one of the few left optimists around here. Im just right in the middle of being optimists or realistist. I hope from the bottom of my hear that They will do justice for both the story pacing & animation. But my question is : How to stay possitive around such hate or pesimism every where. I watched the Ep more than 8 times and I think i get used to the cg. In the first watch i got used to the characters designs, but i had to take more time to get used for CD titan. But not i only hope that the staff doesnt have some irreversible injuries or conditions (or worse) and they deliver good adaptation. I still have some faith & hope for good news. But i am surrounded from every side with negative thoughts. Im not the type who wants to fight People or to prove that im right. Im only wanting to keep my faith in Hayashi to do justice. And you man, you are really helping me staying still faithful & psoitive. Im glad that there are still People good like you around all the toxicity everywhere. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Dec 9, 2020 6:03 PM
#6729
[quote=MironBiron message=61352596] keragamming said: logh looks like garbage Lmao that’s not true. It’s one of the most well directed series I’ve ever seen. @MAQS The thing about the reanimated cuts in LOGH is that they’re there throughout the entire series. They occasionally pop up and they’re clunky as hell, but somehow they manage to become part of the show, they don’t actually feel alien when you rewatch the series. z7ProSpyce said: So I not understand, because now for me you are being very vague, is like you are lost in your thoughs because this cause a impact in you. We just have different perspectives brother. I hyped myself by researching the staff but the schedule didn’t allow them to deliver according to their talent. Look at my thread again if you want. The expectations that my research raised were grounded in reality, but didn’t take into account the terrible schedule (Hayashi was literally still working on Dorohedoro during production of EP1, Tomohiro wasn’t able to participate in the actual production of the show) as well as the staff’s inexperience with Attack on Titan. crypt0l0gy said: Details in art and composition helps me to understand and putting together what I‘m watching. Remember the boulder throw in S3P2 where the camera zooms on Erwin? Compare the impact and effect of that with this regarding visual storytelling and you see what I mean. And it isn’t even hard to achieve within a slightly healthier schedule. Like, show us a fast-paced sequence of character close-ups when shit hits the fan. A fierce close-up of Colt in the beginning of the episode when he gives Magath the bad news. Where the hell is the tension?[/quote If is the perspective, ok so. I will stop talk about this subject with you , I don't want force you or something like this, I will respect your perspective. I hope that you can understand me, so have a nice day. |
Dec 9, 2020 6:22 PM
#6730
MAPPA_Enthusiast said: yaegerist-15 said: MAPPA_Enthusiast said: yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: the climax episodes filled with dialoge like 4,5,15 and 16 will be definitely directed by hayashi. I want ep 16 directed by Hayashi, ufff the pinnacle of AOT greatness if it adapts ch 121. I have faith in Hayashi that at least for these episode he will be the one directing them. I hope for justice for these episode. As for the rest episodes i just hope to have decent animation & to be watchable like ep 1, it wasn't the best ep but with this "quality" of animation for the less important eps i think i will let it pass. Man you are one of the few left optimists around here. Im just right in the middle of being optimists or realistist. I hope from the bottom of my hear that They will do justice for both the story pacing & animation. But my question is : How to stay possitive around such hate or pesimism every where. I watched the Ep more than 8 times and I think i get used to the cg. In the first watch i got used to the characters designs, but i had to take more time to get used for CD titan. But not i only hope that the staff doesnt have some irreversible injuries or conditions (or worse) and they deliver good adaptation. I still have some faith & hope for good news. But i am surrounded from every side with negative thoughts. Man, if you like this, keep with that though, if you stay here in MAL the things will be worse ... and worse ... I love the animation, the changes, the effects, Sakai and Furamata are fire. If you like it and have faith so you can enjoy, let's enjoy the season. Stay strong with your thoughs, don't be carried by the others. |
Dec 9, 2020 6:34 PM
#6731
MironBiron said: I think we should consider what episode would make sense to end the first cour on. Remember, they do choose good spots to split it up at. If I had to guess, everything after that one big event us manga readers know about would make sense. You know what event I mean. This is what makes 122 make the most sense to me. I don't think they're sadistic enough to make it end on that ONE other Eren cliffhanger, if y'know what I mean.Production issues aside, we still aren’t sure whether we’ll see Chapters 120-122 in these 16 episodes. If episode 9 ends somewhere in the first half of chapter 107, we’re dealing with a pacing of 1.8 chapters per episode, and if it consistently stays like that, the 16th episode will end with chapter 119. |
Dec 9, 2020 6:37 PM
#6732
MironBiron said: Production issues aside, we still aren’t sure whether we’ll see Chapters 120-122 in these 16 episodes. If episode 9 ends somewhere in the first half of chapter 107, we’re dealing with a pacing of 1.8 chapters per episode, and if it consistently stays like that, the 16th episode will end with chapter 119. Leakers said 2 chapters per episode, based off the two titles from NHK episode 2 and 3 is also 2 chapters per episode. So its ending at 122. |
Dec 9, 2020 8:06 PM
#6733
keragamming said: Leakers said 2 chapters per episode, based off the two titles from NHK episode 2 and 3 is also 2 chapters per episode. So its ending at 122. SpyTrue said that sometimes it will be less than 2 chapters per episode and that episode 9 will end somewhere in the first half of chapter 107, making at least the 9 first episodes paced at 1.8 chapters per episodes. This, if they indeed end the 16th episode with chapter 122, would result in a WfP arc that is paced at 2.3 (!!!!!!!!!!) chapters per episode. Nobody in their right mind wants a 7 episode long WfP arc. |
MironBironDec 9, 2020 8:23 PM
Dec 9, 2020 8:51 PM
#6734
Kazuhirra said: mappa and famb collab with each other lol and want to suck this season in every possible wayIf this is true and it's indeed a split cour with the first split taking "10 episodes or less", what was the point of MAPPA taking over the final season? |
Dec 9, 2020 9:45 PM
#6735
Eslam spytrye and Dac are the only reliable leakers for aot s4.So we should keep update on them. https://twitter.com/eslam_bouz/status/1320020260427386880 This is Eslam.Actually he leaked the release date WAY BEFORE than spytrue or dac did. |
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Dec 9, 2020 10:18 PM
#6736
Lmfao someone unblurred the entire episode and it definitely looks better |
Dec 9, 2020 10:22 PM
#6737
MAPPA_Enthusiast said: Also has any one from heard that MAPPA will be making adaptation for Chainsawman. I think they overworked their staff wayy above the human rights. I mean they have 4-5 (might be less) adaptation to make and now Chainsawman. I think its too much than they Can handle to do at this point. they're the new JC Pierrot also staff overwork is shitty and brings shit quality more often than not,Akudama drive didn't work the staff and it looks amazing (and it was made by JC pierrot nonetheless) also it sems verceek confirms my fears,episode 1 indeed would be the best quality. |
Sad7727Dec 9, 2020 10:30 PM
Dec 9, 2020 10:30 PM
#6738
Like everyone above me are saying they shouldn't overwork their staff.Even if the anime is good they will get more backlash from the fans regarding the overwork of animators. |
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Dec 9, 2020 10:42 PM
#6739
so its confirmed THAT declaration will be postponed a week, god i hope they really nailed that scene |
Dec 9, 2020 11:41 PM
#6740
MironBiron said: keragamming said: Leakers said 2 chapters per episode, based off the two titles from NHK episode 2 and 3 is also 2 chapters per episode. So its ending at 122. SpyTrue said that sometimes it will be less than 2 chapters per episode and that episode 9 will end somewhere in the first half of chapter 107, making at least the 9 first episodes paced at 1.8 chapters per episodes. This, if they indeed end the 16th episode with chapter 122, would result in a WfP arc that is paced at 2.3 (!!!!!!!!!!) chapters per episode. Nobody in their right mind wants a 7 episode long WfP arc. Spy said the first episode would be 1.3 chapter long, which was ridiculous to believe by anyone, turns out he was wrong. |
Dec 9, 2020 11:53 PM
#6741
https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336938893489315840 That vercreek guy has deleted all his Attack on Titan/Mappa tweets from the past few days. Also removed "mappa slave" from his bio lol |
Dec 9, 2020 11:59 PM
#6742
spiderboi said: https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336938893489315840 That vercreek guy has deleted all his Attack on Titan/Mappa tweets from the past few days. Also removed "mappa slave" from his bio lol some of his boss or co-leagues warned him i guess especially that he said later episodes will have downgrade in quality and that is normal in most anime anyway |
Dec 10, 2020 12:04 AM
#6743
deg said: spiderboi said: https://twitter.com/Vercreek/status/1336938893489315840 That vercreek guy has deleted all his Attack on Titan/Mappa tweets from the past few days. Also removed "mappa slave" from his bio lol some of his boss or co-leagues warned him i guess especially that he said later episodes will have downgrade in quality and that is normal in most anime anyway Probably. In one of the replies someone asked for his age and apparently he’s 16 lmao |
Dec 10, 2020 12:06 AM
#6744
I am just getting a boner watching the unblurred version of the episode. Be sure to check it out for once people. So many minute details are masked by that obnoxious filter. IMHO the CG especially the Armored looks better without the desperate blending attempt. I couldn't notice any drawbacks personally but am open to rectifications. The guy who did this: https://twitter.com/Miish3lov/status/1336366387409920003?s=08 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1880958&show=0#msg61354209 |
Subjectivity is a joke on MAL. If you implicitly bring in subjectivity in your counter argument, you've already lost the debate. Also this website is a fankid infestation , have pity on those kids by ignoring there quotes as they have absolutely no clue what exactly is going on. |
Dec 10, 2020 12:08 AM
#6745
Sad7727 said: No, he said the climax episodes will have the same quality or even better. If they handle the climax episodes good then we are good. But they are fixing some of the other episodes. I think we have to wait till episode 5-7 to make a review. I personally dont think mappa will screw this. Hayashi is a good director and the cgi was outsourced to Studio V-Sign. We will see mappas best animation later, mark thatMAPPA_Enthusiast said: Also has any one from heard that MAPPA will be making adaptation for Chainsawman. I think they overworked their staff wayy above the human rights. I mean they have 4-5 (might be less) adaptation to make and now Chainsawman. I think its too much than they Can handle to do at this point. they're the new JC Pierrot also staff overwork is shitty and brings shit quality more often than not,Akudama drive didn't work the staff and it looks amazing (and it was made by JC pierrot nonetheless) also it sems verceek confirms my fears,episode 1 indeed would be the best quality. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Dec 10, 2020 12:10 AM
#6746
Bhaskar_Singh said: I am just getting a boner watching the unblurred version of the episode. Be sure to check it out for once people. So many minute details are masked by that obnoxious filter. IMHO the CG especially the Armored looks better without the desperate blending attempt. I couldn't notice any drawbacks personally but am open to rectifications. I'm sorry but these look horrible, over-edited and saturated. Gabi is fucking ORANGE in your screenshots. This is a battlefield, why do you want the colors to be this comically blown up? Reminds me of Dragon Ball fans and their obsession with everything being sharp and excessively colored |
Dec 10, 2020 12:16 AM
#6747
we knew that staff is having a hell schedule wayyyyyy before these tweets like? its nothing new, so why keep spreading these doomer attitudes like it's something new. |
Dec 10, 2020 12:17 AM
#6748
I am begging you to think, saying that episode 3 is where you start to see the anime for what it really is doesn't mean in any way that ep 3 will fucking melt and that ep 1 is "the best" you could expect That's utterly false and if you used your head for 3 seconds you would notice this doesn't work for an astonishing amount of anime What Verceek said is that episode 2 or 3 is usually where you can see how the anime can sometimes look like without the "attract audience" aim. Applies for season 1, 2 and 3 of AOT and kind of every TV anime on earth (personally I don't believe it to be the case here since ep2 does look better with the NEP alone) This is based on anime production as a whole and is speculation frome those on his part. He said it himself I feel like trying to explain things to this fandom worsens things since a bunch just take assume the comedically critical worst of what people say. Vercreek is correct, and hasn't said anything that we didn't know so far. (except maybe the movie quality storyboard/cinematography in the episodes he worked on.Wouldn't surprise me a lot of these were Hayashi's episodes. And if Vercreek was called, you can expect a quite awesome episode) So I am begging you to, as he said, wait for the god damn broadcast before judging episodes you haven't seen, this is honestly the stupidest state this fandom has ever been in. Nothing has changed, your beloved anime is produced the same as it has always been and there is nothing """critically bad""" happening NOW that didn't happen before. |
Dec 10, 2020 12:28 AM
#6749
TheCloverfield said: Bhaskar_Singh said: I am just getting a boner watching the unblurred version of the episode. Be sure to check it out for once people. So many minute details are masked by that obnoxious filter. IMHO the CG especially the Armored looks better without the desperate blending attempt. I couldn't notice any drawbacks personally but am open to rectifications. I'm sorry but these look horrible, over-edited and saturated. Gabi is fucking ORANGE in your screenshots. This is a battlefield, why do you want the colors to be this comically blown up? Reminds me of Dragon Ball fans and their obsession with everything being sharp and excessively colored There are not edited. I just increased the saturation according to my personal preference. The unblurred episode is at normal colors as the original episode. Also Attack on Titan was always a battlefield. Colors were always way more vibrant that these in the previous seasons. Not to mention the the colors are washed out even considering a battlefield field. |
Subjectivity is a joke on MAL. If you implicitly bring in subjectivity in your counter argument, you've already lost the debate. Also this website is a fankid infestation , have pity on those kids by ignoring there quotes as they have absolutely no clue what exactly is going on. |
Dec 10, 2020 12:32 AM
#6750
Bhaskar_Singh said: Also Attack on Titan was always a battlefield. Colors were always way more vibrant that these in the previous seasons. Not to mention the the colors are washed out even considering a battlefield field. You didn't "unblur" anything you applied an overdone sharpen filter that destroys the ambient bloom and lighting of the episode This is a completely new era for the franchise, with new story, completely brand new setting inspired off world war 1 and character comes new visuals. I understand that you like the super crisp/clean stuff but trying to artificially edit those into an already composited differently approached anime only makes things worse. (and no, previous season weren't really battlefields but sure) |
TheCloverfieldDec 10, 2020 12:38 AM
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