Attack on Titan
| @Mattinator95 It was a rhetorical question. I'm aware they are more focused on the original works thanks to their partnership with Netflix and such. I meant they wouldn't solely focus on original works and drop AoT if the revenue and the schedule was good. |
Rasyad_Uchiha said: Lets spam 10 score 70% of the scores are 10 already imao |
| HUNTER X HUNTER HAS RETURNED!!!!!!! |
| Yeah, it's definitely a downgrade from WIT imo. |
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| While I agree it's not as awesome, but I gotta admit that it is a pretty good CGI. It blends perfectly with the terrain and color scheme, much better than Season 2 Colossal Titan. But the landscape and city CGI are comparably worse than WIT. What's missing is those gritty skin textures WIT usually use on their 2D Titan. Other than that, I'd say cutting the production time with this is worth it. |
| "it's unfair!" Dude really? Mappa is not your Mom, just an Animation-Studio xD Also the CGI is not bad, first of all. Second, it'll most likely free up some schedule/budget for well crafted scenes, that we wouldn't see if they focused too much on the Titans in the first Episode. So...CHILL, we're one Episode in. |
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Levitj121 said: z7ProSpyce said: Yes man, you are right. I still can't stop thinking about Reiner's transformation scene too. It was sooooooooooo good and when he move your head was soo! CLEAN. The 2D animation with these cinamatic effects is perfect. Man! I love these SHOTS ... https://twitter.com/AoTshots/status/1335627060308553732?s=20 https://twitter.com/AoTshots/status/1335779739752083457?s=20 https://twitter.com/AoTshots/status/1335834326571905025?s=20 https://twitter.com/AoTshots/status/1335834326571905025?s=20 https://twitter.com/AoTshots/status/1335628120456564739?s=20 xD Why not have the PRETTY FUCKING SHOT OF REINER INSIDE THE TITAN!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS WAS 2D GOD TIER!!! https://mobile.twitter.com/luriodt/status/1335648930365771776 Go watch Annie transform in episode 25, it's a very similar scene except animated several times better and that was 5 years ago. That scene was amazing too, for different reasons. The CGI is awesome and people saying it's bad are clearly wanting something perfect out of an anime, stop looking at the bad parts (if there are even any) and start looking on the good parts, that's how you watch an anime, not like those people that give rating 1 to animes just because it's popular and be trying to find anything to hate on these days XD [quote=z7ProSpyce message=61329236] Good job trying to persuade people by showing one of the best scenes in all of the previous 3 seasons and a season 4, 3 second shot of Reiner simply standing up, now give me a gif of all the rest of the episode and people will surely disagree with you XD CGI is just good xD DissapointmentA said: Yeah sure... Levitj121 said: That's the scene I was talking about, Reiner and the Beast titan have never been CG. None of the 15 meters have except in super specific scenarios like 3 frames of eren carrying the boulder. I love the show dear, I even got my dad to watch it, I'm gonna have to explain why it looks so different and that's why this bothers me so much, not really because I'm deeply offended by it. the problem is that it will get worse,unless they suddenly switch to 2D... which is NOT happening Didn't know you were a leaker to know it would get worse :) papa-chan said: DamageMaximo said: I can assure you I ain't, it's just the truth, people want something perfect but perfection doesn't exist, that's as close as it gets demon slayer animation was perfect so youre wrong Demon Slayer animation was "perfect", in episode 19, and that was 2D animation with CGI background, most of it were simply the special effects on Tanjirou's attacks, it's different, buddy. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
anime-primeJan 4, 2021 1:55 PM
| It´s great CGI except the beast titan but 2D animation would definitely be better But we should give some props to MAPPA, doing a great job keeping in mind the cards they were dealt |
| "If I get reincarnated… I wanna become a clam.” – Monkey D Luffy |
| while I prefer WiT in certain areas, at keast mappa can do cgi titans better. |
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| [quote=DamageMaximo message=61330258] z7ProSpyce said: Good job trying to persuade people by showing one of the best scenes in all of the previous 3 seasons and a season 4, 3 second shot of Reiner simply standing up, now give me a gif of all the rest of the episode and people will surely disagree with you XD CGI is just good xD even if i gave you another scene, cgi models arent flexible, they cant do dynamic movements so no |
| not much difference with Wit Studio |
| The colossal titan was made with cgi and so was the rod reiss titan its not nothing new i gotta say the the backgrounds in this anime are really good [quote=papa-chan message=61330521] DamageMaximo said: z7ProSpyce said: Good job trying to persuade people by showing one of the best scenes in all of the previous 3 seasons and a season 4, 3 second shot of Reiner simply standing up, now give me a gif of all the rest of the episode and people will surely disagree with you XD CGI is just good xD even if i gave you another scene, cgi models arent flexible, they cant do dynamic movements so no considering the amount of fights this season i think its kinda natural that they would have to cut some costs for the titans and adapt using cgi luckily everything else about the anime is consistently great all the background art is amazing as well i honestly think its perfectly acceptable Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
anime-primeJan 4, 2021 1:56 PM
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| I don't understand since when cutting corners because the season was hard to animate become something to praise for. Wit had the same criticisms for its CGI Colossal, outsourced basement episode and weak Reiner vs Eren part 2 animation and they deserved it. MAPPA is doing much worse and going extra lengths to cut corners, they deserve more criticism and heat but all they get is applause. If you can't handle the workload, you don't take it. Simple as that, no excuse for CGI fight sequences. Besides, what else to focus on if not the first episode with action sequences? |
Krugerman said: the main issue is you are showing one of the most important fight in s2 and comparing with a normal fight from s4. For example take s3p2 ep 2 and compare to s2ep7. Sure s3p2 ep 2 had some important action but it's not high stake as s2 ep 7 or s3p2 ep 4 or 5 im not good at making gifs (i got those above from google and one fromr eddit) so these may take a while to load due to file size(6-10mb~) . this is from EP14 Season 3 P2 or known as Season 3 P2 EP 2   i still fail to see how this is worse then the CGI,in fact its still 10000x better then the CGI (and we don't even have shifter fights yet. imagine how awful two CGI's fighting would be) i posted before and deleted in order to make better gifs. i'll be making a new topic with CGI comparisons,though i don't know if it violates a rule here. |
| ya'll just love to complain about everything. its not even that bad. lets just be glad MAPPA decided to take in season 4 and animate it for us or we probably wouldn't have it. I agree that WIT was a better choice, but MAPPA is trying their best too. |
ottisopse said: ya'll just love to complain about everything. its not even that bad. lets just be glad MAPPA decided to take in season 4 and animate it for us or we probably wouldn't have it. I agree that WIT was a better choice, but MAPPA is trying their best too. If you willingly accept a project already knowing you wont be able to keep up with the quality, you are at fault too. Crunching your animators and using CGI on all titans indicates they want the quick buck |
| I'm not going to "applaud" mappa for using cgi but I really understand why they did it, it was probably the smartest thing to do. In a perfect world, wit could be hand drawing everything but as a manga reader it's just sorta unrealistic. titan fights are only a very small part of season 4 and not rlly the biggest priority for them compared to some other things. |
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Wow. Comparing a fight scene with him simply standing. How unbaised of you. Idk if you read the manga or not but I seriously doubt the later chapter would be possible to adapt using 2D animation. Just enjoy the damn show man |
| Okay guys, here's an idea for you: For all the people who think it's better to switch CGI now because they won't be able to handle the workload of latest chapters anyway, what would you think if I told you they are not going to adapt the latest chapters in this season? They could very well made it 2D until it was sincerely impossible. Considering they are much much bigger than the Wit, they should have been fine until shit goes south completely. This was the exception and clearly they failed to meet it. Basically, I fail to see how this is a valid excuse and point. This is a cop out. |
| They will make Mikasa 3D too, you should make a post about hating it in advance. Saves you time. |
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| Honestly, the CGI is really good. Probably some of the best CGI in anime currently. Just be happy that we actually have the Final season already, instead of having to wait 1-2 more years, or having a Berserk level CGI adaption. |
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| [quote=TheGuiltMan message=61331253] papa-chan said: DamageMaximo said: even if i gave you another scene, cgi models arent flexible, they cant do dynamic movements so no considering the amount of fights this season i think its kinda natural that they would have to cut some costs for the titans and adapt using cgi luckily everything else about the anime is consistently great all the background art is amazing as well i honestly think its perfectly acceptable Honestly using CGI was a win-win, not only it is cheaper, but the quality of the character itself is always high, the animation is pretty well done and if they need to do the "dynamic flexible movements" they will figure out a way to do it, technology can make that happen. |
Krugerman said: the main issue is you are showing one of the most important fight in s2 and comparing with a normal fight from s4. For example take s3p2 ep 2 and compare to s2ep7. Sure s3p2 ep 2 had some important action but it's not high stake as s2 ep 7 or s3p2 ep 4 or 5 The comparison will still incorrect lol ... Why he don't make a comparison of CGI vs CGI?! This guy is making a comparison of two different types of animation and the people agree with this lol. Like, WTF??? lol ... [quote=DamageMaximo message=61332494] TheGuiltMan said: papa-chan said: considering the amount of fights this season i think its kinda natural that they would have to cut some costs for the titans and adapt using cgi luckily everything else about the anime is consistently great all the background art is amazing as well i honestly think its perfectly acceptable Honestly using CGI was a win-win, not only it is cheaper, but the quality of the character itself is always high, the animation is pretty well done and if they need to do the "dynamic flexible movements" they will figure out a way to do it, technology can make that happen. Ohhh Banger. Such a good comment, totally agree. I think they will use 2D in Titan vs Titan battles or 3DGM scenes obviously. I will wait anxious for it. Because I have the impression that MAPPA is "priorizing the nescessary things". I think they will surprise us in a different way. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
anime-primeJan 4, 2021 1:57 PM
| The amount of fanboys who can't accept criticism on the barely passable CGI is funny. The comparisons to WIT make sense btw. Yeah, when they did use CGI it looked even worse than this, but the difference is that they used it sparingly, while most of the Titan scenes this season will probably be CGI. |
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z7ProSpyce said: Krugerman said: the main issue is you are showing one of the most important fight in s2 and comparing with a normal fight from s4. For example take s3p2 ep 2 and compare to s2ep7. Sure s3p2 ep 2 had some important action but it's not high stake as s2 ep 7 or s3p2 ep 4 or 5 The comparison will still incorrect lol ... Why he don't make a comparison of CGI vs CGI?! This guy is making a comparison of two different types of animation and the people agree with this lol. Like, WTF??? lol ... ????????????????????????? the point is that WIT only made colossal CGI and rest are 2D with a lot of details and love put into it (beast titan closeups) while Mappa put everything as CGI how do you want me to give you armored titan CGI when WIT didn't make him CGI? the ones agreeing are saying WIT 2D style is better then Mappa's CGI/3D style it just looks like a game model inside of an anime instead of full on anime |
Sad7727 said: z7ProSpyce said: The comparison will still incorrect lol ... Why he don't make a comparison of CGI vs CGI?! This guy is making a comparison of two different types of animation and the people agree with this lol. Like, WTF??? lol ... ????????????????????????? the point is that WIT only made colossal CGI and rest are 2D with a lot of details and love put into it (beast titan closeups) while Mappa put everything as CGI how do you want me to give you armored titan CGI when WIT didn't make him CGI? the ones agreeing are saying WIT 2D style is better then Mappa's CGI/3D style it just looks like a game model inside of an anime instead of full on anime This is not Wit Studio making SnK anymore my friend. Just wait, MAPPA will surprise you. |
| I would rather wait another 4 years than watch the show get butchered like this |
Air-117 said: I would rather wait another 4 years than watch the show get butchered like this Oskar von Reuenthal is right. |
Levitj121 said: Attack on titan is easily my favorite show, I have all the blu-rays and hundreds of dollars in cringe merchandise, but I'm not gonna be a cringey neck-beard redditor and say "it looks fine" it looks fucking terrible, as far as I know, the ape titan didn't have a single cg shot whatsoever when wit animated it. I can't even think of one Reiner did either. Now I couldn't see a single shot that they WEREN'T CG, not a single fucking frame, even the close-ups, I know I'm gonna love this season but it really is so goddamn jarring. I absolutely loved Reiners animation. Same. Its one of my favorite shows ever and I dropped a tear every time a titan moves in this first episode. Can't believe they'll CGI every titan fight scene in this final season. |
rarewaifu said: _unkn0wn said: rather wait 1-2 more years then have overworked workers handling a shitty schedule because the higher ups wanted all it by the deadline, waiting = better everything Honestly, the CGI is really good. Probably some of the best CGI in anime currently. Just be happy that we actually have the Final season already, instead of having to wait 1-2 more years, or having a Berserk level CGI adaption. theyre using cgi precisely because of the terrible scheduling Yeah, but I guess they don't want what happened with S1->S2. All the hype was killed in about two years. |
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| I think the titans look fine :/ |
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| there were a lot of things going on thats why |
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Sad7727 said: z7ProSpyce said: The comparison will still incorrect lol ... Why he don't make a comparison of CGI vs CGI?! This guy is making a comparison of two different types of animation and the people agree with this lol. Like, WTF??? lol ... ????????????????????????? the point is that WIT only made colossal CGI and rest are 2D with a lot of details and love put into it (beast titan closeups) while Mappa put everything as CGI how do you want me to give you armored titan CGI when WIT didn't make him CGI? the ones agreeing are saying WIT 2D style is better then Mappa's CGI/3D style it just looks like a game model inside of an anime instead of full on anime This is exactly what I've been trying to say, but everyone caught up in their mappa circle jerk denial session completely ignores it, these are titans that have never been cg before, think about what that says about the studio, the cg is good in terms of anime cg, it still looks like the ps3 version of borderlands but it's quality stuff. That said, the limitations of cgi are blatantly obvious, any type of fluid movement looks incredibly janky and unnatural, like when the beast titan T-poses all the way to the ground like a broken Skyrim model. |
Levitj121 said: Sad7727 said: ????????????????????????? the point is that WIT only made colossal CGI and rest are 2D with a lot of details and love put into it (beast titan closeups) while Mappa put everything as CGI how do you want me to give you armored titan CGI when WIT didn't make him CGI? the ones agreeing are saying WIT 2D style is better then Mappa's CGI/3D style it just looks like a game model inside of an anime instead of full on anime This is exactly what I've been trying to say, but everyone caught up in their mappa circle jerk denial session completely ignores it, these are titans that have never been cg before, think about what that says about the studio, the cg is good in terms of anime cg, it still looks like the ps3 version of borderlands but it's quality stuff. That said, the limitations of cgi are blatantly obvious, any type of fluid movement looks incredibly janky and unnatural, like when the beast titan T-poses all the way to the ground like a broken Skyrim model. It's about more then just the studio , the industry as a whole |
| I personally love the CG, especially on the Armor Titan |
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