Kami no Tou Episode 7 Discussion

Marinate1016 said:
Loving Bam’s new Black Bulls outfit as well lol.

Davidmonte31 said:
Damn telecom animation, who gave the contract to this studio lmao, they so bad.
They are ruining all the world building, they changed BM to a sword because swords are mainstream, they changed GA from being a hook to a whip, they didn’t added armor inventory when androssi used it in crown game and against anak in the corridor, they didn’t explained shinsoo bangs, so now shinsoo is just a normal substance like mana in other show, I’am sure I’am forgetting others things too, anyway they are already simplifying the way of fighting when the fights are more tactical in season 1.

Did I need to mention fights scenes Especially androssi vs anak which looked very bad, I mean it looked like some sort of power point animation, until now the best fight was the crown game anak vs Laure and I’am afraid that must remain the best fight of the season when it’s not great animation either but just ok.

Phenomanan said:
Man, Ho is having a really tough time eh. Seems like Laure secretly knows he's struggling based on how he sarcastically said "help the weak right?". Wonder why he doesn't help him though 0.o

Also for the tag game, I thought each team would have their own "it" plus the examiner. Seems weird that one team doesn't have anyone who is "it" at all. Or maybe I missed something.

ImmovableObject said:
So the mommy-lizard just stood there and burned? Usually in situations like these they at least are being buried by rubble or otherwise incapacitated. Did the animation team just dropped the ball or it's another one of those things that are "close to the source"?

SpartanKing4 said:

Unfortunately that’s what you get when you try to adapt 78 chapters in 13 episodes, they have to do rough cuts, this anime’s biggest sin was the number of episodes.


Also, the Hide and Seek test seemed very underwhelming compared to the Webtoon, Quant was a lot scarier and the setting was much darker in the Webtoon.

Admiral_Carapils said:
Is Androssi's only goal to kill Anak? Because she is already a princess so why whould she want to climb the tower again or being a princess does not automatically mean she climbed the tower already?

fonmeister said:


Androssi never really showed any intention of harming anaak much less kill her. She showed interest in anaak because she wanted to know about the real princess anaak's reason for doing what she did(like falling in love and having a child). You can be a princess of jahad even of you have not climbed up the tower.

Admiral_Carapils said:


Thanks for the information!

jrShark said:


I think you might have took the scenes too literally. Anak's mother was being hunted down by Jahad's order, because the princess aren't suppose to have a child. She made Anak escape while confronting the assassins.

fight-or-flight said:
If the people who passed don't have to play tag, then why do Shibisu and Hatz have to participate? Or was getting ten friends not their test?
Maybe I just misunderstood something, but it seemed weird only Rak and that other big guy got to sit out.

Shirai-chan said:
I wish Rachel would just stop being a pussy lmao

ImmovableObject said:
How was i supposed to know to not take this scene literally? I didn't read 400+ chapters of source material so i don't have the benefit of foresight to interpret scenes.

fight-or-flight said:
If the people who passed don't have to play tag, then why do Shibisu and Hatz have to participate? Or was getting ten friends not their test?
Maybe I just misunderstood something, but it seemed weird only Rak and that other big guy got to sit out.

fonmeister said:
In rak and the other guy's case, they had an oppurtunity to just skip all that if they hit the far away marker. Note that there are also other spear bearers that did not do that and have to take the tests normally.

fight-or-flight said:


Well, seems a little unfair that only the spear bearers get a chance to skip the next test. Thanks for explaining though- the part that was confusing me was that I didn't understand that hitting the far-away target was like "extra credit" I guess.

Ragister said:


Nothing about what was said is due to foresight. The scene is taken directly from the webtoon, if that matters, and stops there.

The episode explains how princesses can't have children or even be with someone. Androssi even comments on being a grave crime to spread the power. You know the father and mother were killed, and since children are not allowed, she would be too. So, in order to survive, the kid had to escape. You also are given the information that the kid went with someone. Now, we can assume she stayed behind so there was time to Anaak Jr. escape, because it makes sense or else, they would get caught. It is easier to lose track if you waste their time.

ImmovableObject said:
I know the motivation behind character's actions. That's not what i am asking. Why was i supposed to interpret this scene not literally? That's my question. So far that's just your words. If the reason you say it is because that's the only way for this scene in its current form to make sense, then you are just running a defense for it. This scene doesn't telegraph it's purpose as non-literate - neither stylistically nor narratively. The scene goes as a standart flashback - it gives the impression that it perfectly shows things as they happened.

EDIT:

So i just looked that scene in source manga, yeah - it instantely telegraphs the idea that the scene with the burning house is how she remembers it and not necesserily how it happened. Unlike the same scene in anime. So it seems like i was correct - "it's another one of those things that are "close to the source""

1Kyo said:

It's called character development. Putting action scene after action scene without giving the characters time to breathe is counterproductive.

Chikenfrieds said:
Episode 7 and this series has not set its world properly. We do not even know how to access the tower, where it is or something as simple as knowing where do the participants come from? Perfectly each one could be from a parallel universe of a futuristic or medieval world and it would not matter. Nothing is understood.

And this is not a minor thing. Without that context it is impossible to give importance to the situations or the characters because we literally do not know anything about the situation of anyone outside the tower, we do not know how important things should be and that makes it even more boring when the protagonist has no charisma or anything interesting in concept.


And with the theme of the princesses of Jahad the same. Anaak's lore was fine but we don't even know if those princesses live in the same world or inside the tower and, if so, the tower is perhaps its own universe (?) Really, nothing is understood.

Chikenfrieds said:
Episode 7 and this series has not set its world properly. We do not even know how to access the tower, where it is or something as simple as knowing where do the participants come from? Perfectly each one could be from a parallel universe of a futuristic or medieval world and it would not matter. Nothing is understood.

And this is not a minor thing. Without that context it is impossible to give importance to the situations or the characters because we literally do not know anything about the situation of anyone outside the tower, we do not know how important things should be and that makes it even more boring when the protagonist has no charisma or anything interesting in concept.


And with the theme of the princesses of Jahad the same. Anaak's lore was fine but we don't even know if those princesses live in the same world or inside the tower and, if so, the tower is perhaps its own universe (?) Really, nothing is understood.

ImmovableObject said:
How was i supposed to know to not take this scene literally? I didn't read 400+ chapters of source material so i don't have the benefit of foresight to interpret scenes.

CrossBlack said:
I actually liked the first fight and Anaak was decent. I was really liking the beginning of the episode but then, for the second time in this anime Endorsi's heel broke, I really don't know if this anime is making fun of us or the author really like a plot convenience.

The initial fight was keeping me hooked until the tone completely switched, really disappointing. And the rest of the episode just felt like nothing was really happening. But at least the episode was fun to watched.

Bam is still a boring and annoying ass protagonist, I still don't feel any empathy towards any of the characters, I actually couldn't care less about them. I was hoping that we'd at least get some world building and that they would explain some stuff in this episode, but it seems like that's not happening any sooner.

You seem to have missed all the explanations given in episodes 1 and 2. The Tower is the world itself - you might think of it as a whole universe. Every character in this world comes from inside the Tower with the exceptions of irregulars which we don't know anything about their origins. If you are wondering how to access the Tower, then no one knows because it's the same as God descending on Earth - such a rare occurance that most people couldn't even believe it if it happened right in front of their eyes. This is further stressed by characters both in high positions (test administrators) and common regulars knowing about other irregulars by name - that means there are only a handful of them and they are quite famous. But if your question was about how to enter the inner tower and become a regular, it was also explained that Headon is the one who chooses people to enter the inner tower and become regulars.

I'd suggest paying more attention to the lore-heavy stuff from now on before shitting on it.

emyo93 said:


The repetition of the heel's breaking is definitely intentional and symbolic . It is a reference to Endorsi's analogy of the princesses being shoes on display in Jahad's showcase and the way I see it the author is trying to show the viewers that Endorsi's shoes keep breaking, maybe foreshadowing that she will probably fail as a princess or she will be troublesome for Jahad at some point in the future. We'll have to wait and see what will happen.