| Along with many fans of Major I was pretty hyped to see a sequel involving his kid and re-watched the entire series to prepare. Doing so I remembered why the last bit of the Major series, mostly Season 6 and the following time jumps, was pretty disappointing and even more so after watching the first couple of episodes of Major 2nd. To me, it seems Goro had a very mediocre if not a bad career, at least compared to everyone else he fought against. In Major 2nd, it seems like Goro only won a single world series which took 8 years to do after he joined; shown in the OVA and end of Season 6. While Jr. won his first world series in his rookie year and even Satou won the NPB championship in his first year. It just seems like season 1-5 set up Goro to be the next best pitcher to replace Gibson senior and even heard him called a "monster" in many of the seasons. Yet, it seems like he only struggled in the majors with the yips, circulatory issues and an injury that made him become a batter and give up pitching. I thought he would have a few world series and even a record or two but, it only appears that he struggled in everything he did. I don't know why it bothers me so much but, the season 1-5 set him up to be something great only to be mediocre at best by season 6 and world series OVA. Even Major 2nd would state that Satou is more famous than him in Japan. Again, I don't know why this bothers me so much but, it is really disappointing to me. I write this to see if anyone shares these thoughts with me or better yet, can prove me wrong. |
DankEvergreenMay 20, 2018 9:47 PM
| That's interesting, and it's something I didn't think about. I think you're right that he didn't win as many championships as I'd've expected, but I don't find it too unrealistic, and I think its still pretty decent. I assume he would be held back by his team and the limits of his aging body, so he can't solo out-pitch whole teams as he could in his youth. So I think I'm okay with it, and I'm pretty satisfied with how it all turned out. |
| Satou was stated to have lead the MLB in homeruns for a while and retired from it shortly before the time major 2nd started, at least that is what I got from the show so far. While Shigeno is not even playing in the Japanese league but, did show a flash of him in the oceans uniform. To me that tells me Satou had a pretty amazing career that also lasted much longer in the MLB compared to shigeno where he had to leave the MLB much sooner to play for the Japanese league and eventually to the Taiwan league. While, Shigeno's career seems realistic; in Major 2nd, Satou's career seems to significantly overshadow Shigeno's. While winning a world series is of course still impressive, season 1-5 made it seem like Shigeno should have been the one with an impressive career. Though, one could argue that it is realistic that many superstar prospects did not live up to the hype. |
| never finished the first major series with Goro but nice to see that he did won a USA Major championship(?) before he retired i remember stopping watching around the time when he is in the Minor League and is injury prone, its too painful and boring to watch on those times so i never bothered finishing the anime series |
| [Spoilers to S5 in this post] I was not disappointed with his career-- I'm more disappointed that the Anime only managed to show the process to it and not the highlights. World Series OVA was only less than an hour but I think the manga had a lot more content. I want to see an entire two-cour season with Goro, Toshi, all the power players competing and fighting for a championship. I want to see something like Season 5 (the most exciting season of all undoubtly) but with a victory at the end. I want to see Goro back in Team Japan as a key player (not as a back up) and winning it all. I just want to see his training and efforts pay off. I want to see some intense gameplay. I'm disappointed that we won't get to see what he does after he retires as a pitcher, as I want to see his progress as a slugger. Goro is one of the most interesting sports anime characters I've ever followed and I want to follow the rest of his career but now we're only getting to see what becomes of his son and Toshi's. Of course, they are interesting as well, but... Sometimes I do want to see what would become of [one of] the best pitcher of all time. |
| Honestly I kinda wish we had a follow up story of Goro being a slugger instead of his son's story, I don't know, maybe its bias but I just love Goro as the main character of this better than his son, Goro's backstory is just way more deep and by no stretch I grew up with him. About his career, I'm not disappointed with it either, his peers and family knows what he's really made of, Goro prefers throwing balls than catching fame. What matters to me at least is some if not most of us Major fans and the characters that are close to Goro knows he truly is one of the best baseball players MAJOR-verse has. |
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| This post is a bit old, but whatever, wanted to put my 2 cents. I actually perfectly understand OP's perspective. We followed all of Goro's growth into a successful professional player to the point a lot of us viewers develop some form of attachment to Goro. We saw this kid who happened to be incredibly talented go through so much, and even getting into the MLB, so of course we wanted things to go well for him and have tons of World Series titles, MVPs and whatever. It would've felt great. Sadly, Goro's career was really hindered by a lot of injuries, starting by the one he had as a kid and his situation ended up being less "ideal" than the one of Toshiya. I'm not a baseball fan in real life, so I can't make many comparisons there, but I'm a basketball fan and I know of a lot of players with many "what if" situations because of bad teams or injuries. And I don't know how famous is Gorou in the US, but he does seem to be pretty damn famous in Japan (so is Toshiya of course). But if I had to bet, I'd say he'd be pretty damn famous among baseball fans in America because, even if for a short while, he demonstrated an elite level of baseball. And we know from what we saw in the series that peak Goro is a legendary class pitcher. Even in a loss, his game against Gibson in Season 5 would be one of those legendary games that any fan should watch and he was crucial in the World Series he did win. Sometimes there are players that do not manage to accumulate all the stats and championships, but people still end up remembering through history as some of the best players out there. Goro didn't become the Michael Jordan of baseball, but people would remember him as a player that could play at the Jordan level (I guess our Jordan would be Gibson). But yes, I would love to have seen Goro winning many World Series and having the series being very clear about considering Goro an all time great of the MLB. But then again, I think this series, since it's very beginning, has been more about the journey than about the goal. Through all his journey, anyone who played against Goro will tell you how great he was. He made an impact that can't be measured in his "career success". Also, I loved seeing Michiru as a huge fan of Goro, which is a little testament to Goro's career. After finishing Major 2nd S1, I can say I still love Major very much. I am "in love" with the Major (1st) characters and I always loved seeing them in second. I was a fan when we finally got some Goro time at the end of the series and that finale was really nice to see. I think we haven't seen the end of Goro's career impact, which may very well be reflected in these currently very young protagonists. It felt pretty damn good going back to Major. |
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| He also won a Cy Young award, meaning that he was the best pitcher at the highest level of baseball. That's a win for Goro imo, he became the best. Also, World Series don't grow on trees, Major keeps it realistic and I like that. |
| I never really took Goro's career achievements in consideration, to me he's a monster whose pitch is too strong it screwed up both of his shoulders. I think it's common for a player from any sport to be liked for a special talent instead of their record, but I'm not really into any real life sport so I might be wrong. |
JadentheAnimeguy said: DankEvergreen said: Satou was stated to have lead the MLB in homeruns for a while and retired from it shortly before the time major 2nd started, at least that is what I got from the show so far. While Shigeno is not even playing in the Japanese league but, did show a flash of him in the oceans uniform. To me that tells me Satou had a pretty amazing career that also lasted much longer in the MLB compared to shigeno where he had to leave the MLB much sooner to play for the Japanese league and eventually to the Taiwan league. While, Shigeno's career seems realistic; in Major 2nd, Satou's career seems to significantly overshadow Shigeno's. While winning a world series is of course still impressive, season 1-5 made it seem like Shigeno should have been the one with an impressive career. Though, one could argue that it is realistic that many superstar prospects did not live up to the hype. The thing is Goro played 14 years in the MLB, on top of that in the final ova the news broadcast said he had broken several records with his 100 mph fastballs. Even within the sixth season, they stated once he fully recovered from the yips he was playing fantastic and like the true ace of the hornets. Goro was good enough that when put into the game during the world series, the raiders got extremely scared. He then proceeded to strike out the proclaimed best slugger in the league(also known as the home run king) and the rbi King(Keane). They also slated him as one of the best closers in the league, while he was leading the league in saves and was sought after by several good teams. So if anything Goro had quite an impressive career in general and especially for a Japanese player. Second to only Toshiya who had some more personal accolades, also regarding Toshy being more popular in Japan, that's simply because he was a superstar when he played in Japan, compared to Goro who the Japanese only heard about through the news and when he played at a late age in an unfamiliar position(fielder). Some how I missed all of that information when watching that OVA. I am well over due for a re-watch though. I will definitely keep an eye out for it. That would make the ending a bit more satisfying than my original view of him barely making it to the MLB only to drop down to the Taiwan league after all that struggling he did to get there. Edit: Reading some of the older posts, I have seem to have missed all kinds of information about Goro. I must have been to focused on actually seeing his achievements and since we didn't get to do that, I started assuming things. Thank you all who took the time to answer this post over the years, I appreciate it. |
DankEvergreenAug 19, 2020 7:29 PM
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