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ManlyTear said: Woah, this place is still as yikes as usual. Finally decided to get a review out and I check here to witness this. bluishred29 said: When the brokenhearted Natsuo returned the ring to Hina, I thought, this was it. This is were you close this chapter. Because despite both of them hurting, there was finally acceptance that perhaps they are not really meant to be together. So you came in to a teacher x student & stepsibling taboo-themed love story, dead-set on hating on the teacher, ignoring that Hina & Natsuo truly loved each other & got along great, ignoring how his feelings for her were even what led to him making his dream of becoming a writer a reality, then keep writing in hopes of getting together again. Then it's like you're blaming Hina for being there for the most important moments in Natsuo's life while Rui's off in NY. To top it off, it's like you're blaming her for having feelings. What? Hina holds her feelings back out of respect for Rui as best as she can because if she wanted to make moves she'd just tell Natsuo that she lied when she rejected him on the island, then the story would end much sooner, lol. There are some themes presented here: With Hina, it's about "loving someone beyond your desire to be loved." Rui's love for Natsuo amounts to "I like how Natsuo always thinks of ME first." In chapter 273 I could tell when Rui asked Natsuo before they separate: "Do you like me?" and Natsuo said "Yeah, I love you". and she responded "Same here." and both of them have tears in their eyes. It was so pitiful, painful that they had to separate because of such circumstance. I wished Masaki had witnessed that one. For Hina it's the stronger japanese word to express one's love, it's "Ai" and for Rui it was it's weaker version "Koi." Natsuo's heart was already back to Hina the moment he knew of her feelings, because he always loved Hina more & considering all the impact she had on his life & especially WRITING, why wouldn't he? Like how do you even manage to twist all the good things she did as bad is beyond me. Maybe it truly was a waste of 3 days, but we live & learn - guess this just wasn't the story for you,but that doesn't make it bad. Well... I get it, you have your own interpretation of the story so I'll leave it at that. Anyway, you're obviously a hinaxnat shipper so it made sense you'll gloss over some facts about Rui and Natsuo's genuine relationship and their character development. I ship neither and I'm not gonna justify anymore lest I'd be mistaken as rui/nat shipper. Like I said, I'm here for the story and the reason why I kept reading until the very end was because I thought it was worth the read. Turned out it was a mistake. My bad. I'm not going to apologize when I said it was a waste of my 3days. The ending was rubbish. I'm also glad this story is finally over my head, thanks to that romcom movie. |
| The thing is one interpretation turned out to be right and one wrong - it's as simple as that. The problem is many people here desperately wanted Hina x Natsuo to be shown as a bad thing from the get-go, when the narrative shows it as anything but. They tunneled so hard on a Rui ending that now they then preferred to claim that the manga's shit, rather than admitting that MAYBE they misinterpreted or downright ignored "a couple" of things. The human ego is a fragile thing. Reading the narrative from objective lenses you'll see that it supports H x N, portraying them as "destined to be together" & an almost ideal couple but kept apart due to social standing, then because he's with Rui - (I honestly sometimes wish Hina wasn't so nice and just told Natsuo how she felt, because Rui certainly didn't hold herself back for Hina's sake for too long - but the story would end too soon then and that wouldn't be fun). Just thinking of how Natuso even became a writer, what was his driving force for a good 1/3 of the manga and then Hina's further influence on that in the later half of the manga speaks volumes, while Rui had little-to-no impact on that. At any rate, it's one of many examples of how people believe what they want to believe, going as far as outright denying the canon & create false expectations for themselves, then chose to vent when those expectations aren't met rather than consider that they were wrong all along. |
| I don't know if it's just me or did most people here not know about Chapter 277 which is the real conclusion. However, reading through some of the comments suggested otherwise so I'll just post my final thoughts here too. I took it upon myself to have a go at this, anime-post events albeit. More like skimming through than actually reading in all honesty, I have never breezed through a manga this fast before. And yet I'm disappointed, like seriously. It's amazing how the manga was ascending for a good time but then crashed totally in this last arc or two. I'm not going to get too into this but the last couple of chapters in particular really was an absolute mindfudge. Unpredictable as heck too, I wonder if my impressions would have been more severe had I not known of the final result... As a Rui fan, I obviously feel betrayed but it was more like Hina was the main female lead from the get-go so I suppose a part of me feels like this was only natural. Adding marriage and Haruka-chan into this definitely made it a lot more hurtful though, it must be said. Hina's misfortunes and struggles, no matter how I look at it, were some of the more significant ploys for the Hina x Natsuo ship as compared to Hina's development on the other hand for the Rui x Natsuo pair so that's another stab of sorts, if you will. One thing is for sure and that's Natsuo is bound to get some criticisms for his novel too, xD. Especially towards the end, I bet. Anyway, it's a mixed feeling ride all in all. Premise didn't hook me up and the anime events had its ups and downs and the anime post-events are likewise. Initially, I was thinking of a 5/10 but I think I'll settle with a 4 here. Certainly not going to forget this series (and in particular, this ending) anytime soon... And some of the erotic moments were top-notch too, xD. Now that I think about it, this felt very similar to Seo Kouji-sensei's works (Kimi no Iru Machi, to be precise) with the mixed drama and the occasional spice and not to mention the final arcs where both were below par compared to the mid-phase (which too was the highlight). Sadly, KimiMachi wins by far though but we'll leave it at that, I don't want to compare the two too much since they have their (larger) differences. Let's see how the sales of this final volume out today will fare. @Short_Circut Yes, it's that very chapter xD. Guess the site I used might've made a mistake with the counting then, thanks for the clarification! I've got to check out those goods that came out with the final volume! |
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_MushiRock11_ said: I don't know if it's just me or did most people here not know about Chapter 277 which is the real conclusion. However, reading through some of the comments suggested otherwise so I'll just post my final thoughts here too. do you mean the chapter where Rui and Haruka leave and Hina wants to bang Nat.? That's only an extra chapter 276.1 otherwise there is no chap 277 lol. Only thing is with the release of the final volume it added a few more pages to the final chapter (276) which just showed some things like Al's gf getting pregnant, Momo working as a gynecologist and is pregnant with her second child and the girl who loves Kiryu sensei becoming his editor now. |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Piercing_Truth said: Freekster said: display of a horrible read on the story "Nothing to offer" - what a dumb logic. It's like you missed the part where her presence in his life has literally influenced a ton of his growth as a writer, both directly & indirectly, as his muse & the one doing all she can to see his dream succeed. You seem to lack basic understanding of how healthy relationships work, not just reading skills. You don't understand Rui's character to get why she left go. She can't be the person Hina was for Natsuo, she's not who Hina was for him and despite keeping it a secret for so long that Hina still loved him coming back from that island part, she still couldn't forge as strong as a bond. Worse, their relationship was a mess. The girl gets legit triggered at every chick Natsuo interacts with and sadly Natsuo becomes a wimp with her, never talking back just not to piss her off. It was an ugly sight. If you missed all their issues and the fact that they never actually progress in their relationship, I'm not surprised, but it's there. "Hina x Natsuo have a fling" - yea bruh, they totally weren't planning their future together, he totally didn't feel so strong for her to put his feelings into writing once she was forced to leave and he earned an award for his story that led him becoming a novelist. "Natsuo remains single but has some other flings in the meantime" - In the meantime, Hina keeps being there by his side. Obviously, like most Rui fans with piss-poor reading skills, you prob forgot all those moments, manuscript holding, her & Marie saving him from gangsters. "Picks Rui over Hina" - again forgetting that scene in the park where Hina backs off and never tells him how she feels, he never sees the ring, yet he had Rui's necklace, Al told him she was wearing it and he was pushed by chefboi to have a reason to go to NY. Fun-fact, even after getting back with Rui, it's still Hina by his side when he starts writing again. The thought process in the end is that the accident is used as to have Marie and Kiriya reveal Hina's feelings. "Nothing that gave away that Natsuo was still madly in love with Hina" - holy, shit , legit forgetting how he keeps being on edge and even evasive around her ever since she returns home since he thinks she wants to be his sister, nevermind that she rejected him on the island. The decision was made pre-time skip, BOTH Rui and Natsuo agreed on it, it wasn't just Rui who pushed him. I already told you Rui's logic, she can't be the person Hina was for him. Your 100+ ch developments would mean going back as early as chapter 176 or something, but you can go earlier than that. Realize that ever since Hina returns home, she builds an even stronger bond with Natsuo than before, given that she's there at some of the most important moments in his life. Even their stepsibling dates usually have more meaningful conversations than the ones with selfish-blue-hair-rebound-chan where she makes problems out of thin hair due to jealousy at other chicks. The arc with that stalker dude, Tanabe, was where most end-game doubts should've been cleared and most should've noticed it's heading towards Hina and Natsuo ending up together again. After all, after that point Hina declares how she'll devote her life to support him and you'd have to be foolish to believe that after all she did, Natsuo wouldn't go back to her again, who was also his ex that he never wanted to separate from either. All that was needed was a situation where he's forced to confront his feelings for her, and learn the full truth. Their relationship throughout like 2/3 of the manga is only "platonic" because Natsuo never knows that Hina still loves him, thinks she's just "Hina-nee" while she thinks he's moved on from her and doesn't want to make moves on her sister's bf. Like holy shit, such a horrible read on the story, feels like we've read a different manga. It's like I had to summarize a decent chunk of it all to you. No wonder you people are so salty about the ending, but not Sasuga's fault you can't read properly. But you're welcome for the explanation. My post further above and some of the very few others should be helpful. Reading again with a different perspective might as well. Going to this manga's subreddit and asking for explanations might help too. We all make mistakes and learn from them after all. Who are you on the sub? do you have an account? im glad someone understands the ending. And the final vol further clarifies the ending |
| All these new pages are nothing more than the author's attempt to justify this ending of the manga. But it was good to see Al, Lily, Momo... Nevertheless, it's funny to see someone attempt invite to Domekano sub where salty Hina stans (mostly just them there now) once again explain the ending to those who did not like it. It's also fun to see for me, how Hina stans impose their opinions on user's pages. |
Akagi-kunAug 19, 2020 3:28 AM
Akagi-kun said: All these new pages are nothing more than the author's attempt to justify this ending of the manga. But it was good to see Al, Lily, Momo... Nevertheless, it's funny to see someone attempt invite to Domekano sub where salty Hina stans (mostly just them there now) once again explain the ending to those who did not like it. It's also fun to see for me, how Hina stans impose their opinions on user's pages. ah you mean readers who actually understood the manga and didnt tunnel on a shipping. Those people on reddit you referring to right? with evdience too to go along with it. but its okay you can keep thinking other wise. i mean hey some rui fans were such in denial they made their own alt ending. Ripped off sasuga's art and slapped Rui's face on it. you must folow that crowd i guess you know for all you know because the magazine stretched her limit but these maybe in fact the original pages she wanted it just throws out the bs of a rush ending or a pity win for hina. all the bs goes out the window. |
Akagi-kun said: All these new pages are nothing more than the author's attempt to justify this ending of the manga. But it was good to see Al, Lily, Momo... Nevertheless, it's funny to see someone attempt invite to Domekano sub where salty Hina stans (mostly just them there now) once again explain the ending to those who did not like it. It's also fun to see for me, how Hina stans impose their opinions on user's pages. Salty Hina stans? How'd you ever get that impression from the folks that read this story right? We are often the ones praising Sasuga & always discussing what actually happens in canon instead of indulging in headcanon. lol. We don't forget/ignore/twist key events, including Rui's parts. If we ever seem "salty" it's due to us defending it vs some haters who misunderstood it. I myself got like, a bunch of posts saved, with many links from the manga showing how strong Hina x Natsuo's connection becomes, how big of an influence she had on his writing and the two were there for each other at important moments in their lives, all of which serve as build-up for them getting back together again. Natsuo's words there in the final chapters when he declares his love for her are the confirmation once all hurdles are cleared & cards are on the table. Also Rui & Natsuo's couple issues due to her own insecurities & more. Hmm maybe I should share some here.. And the extra vol 28 chapters are "attempts from the author to justify the ending" lol what's with that train of thought? It merely reinforces what some of us have been saying for months after it ended. I've no idea why people are in so much denial. What's an opinion and what's a fact is revealed when you confirm with the source material. |
| Specifically, there are too many of you everywhere @ManlyTear. I was just wondering what Sasuga added to the manga. So I read this and shared my opinion here. However, I do not impose my opinion on anyone. |
Akagi-kun said: Specifically, there are too many of you everywhere @ManlyTear. I was just wondering what Sasuga added to the manga. So I read this and shared my opinion here. However, I do not impose my opinion on anyone. Don't see why there being more of us now there matters(at least the more active ones, idk about the lurkers). We don't really impose our opinions on anyone either, we just talk about canon events and sometimes explain certain parts to people that misunderstood it. Don't see what's wrong with that, lol. You should see how bad my impression of Kimi No Iru Machi from 6 years ago was & how much in denial I was, despite that being one of my favorite romance manga of all time which I now always praise & recommend to DomeKano fans. |
| If you see what you are doing so - OK, I will not dissuade you. You liked it - great, I'm sincerely happy for you. However for me personally DomeKano will always remain one of the most disappointing works that I have read and I have regrets concerning the time spent on it. Therefore, I do not see the point in further discussion. So good luck. daphnechtholly said: I myself am actually glad that the sub is actually waking up. Specifically reading from what you've said you haven't been on the sub to witness the chaos the true salty rui stans has done months ago. The dramatic irony and Hipocrisy to say that we're the ones who're salty when it's the exact opposite is just blasphemy. Cope. But the thing is that salty now Hina stans (and they were salty on Sasuga's Twitter about a year ago)... But it doesn't matter now. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
anime-primeAug 19, 2020 6:25 PM
Piercing_Truth said: Short_Circut said: Only thing is with the release of the final volume it added a few more pages to the final chapter (276) which just showed some things like Al's gf getting pregnant, Momo working as a gynecologist and is pregnant with her second child and the girl who loves Kiryu sensei becoming his editor now. There's more to it than that: - You have Rui showing Natsuo the rings in the hospital before the time-skip(not translated yet as far as I know) - You have a talk over dinner between the family where they ask Haruka if she's fine with Hina marrying Natsuo and then them saying how they'll make sure to explain it properly as she grows up if needed. - You have Natsuo talking with his dad about him marrying Hina and wanting to make her happy, also another rings mention and how he thought Hina didn't have them all this time. - You have Rui and her mother talk have a talk in the park with how she's moved on - You have Haruka tasting Kajita's cooking and Rui saying she has her own life. Basically, what some people have been saying all along and more. ss4chris said: Who are you on the sub? do you have an account? im glad someone understands the ending. I don't post there, just been lurking every once in a while. The mods there seem pretty trash so it's not for me. I call people out on their BS. I just came to see how much of salt-time this place would be. You apparently had a minority of people saying otherwise and instead of considering that those guys might be on to something since their words match with the story, people prefer to vent and rage, just blindly following the crowd. daphnechtholly said: Look I won't deny that even if I didn't witness it. But then again going back to my point. To say that we're "salty" in the sub when even prior to that the Rui stans we're so crazy that you'd get down voted as hell and even get banned or removed. it even made me question if it the moderators in the sub were doing their job right. What this guy said. you def right on the mods part. they getting so anal nowadays. or its mostly one at this point |
| The sales are in line with the sales of the previous volumes. Perhaps this means that people bought the last volume just to complete the collection. |
| god i haven’t even read this shit but this chapter discussion and that chapter score unanimously voting this chapter as 1/5 lmao |
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| These are my thoughts without the influence of other comments. That was quite the journey. Honestly I have no idea if I liked or hated the ending, but in the end I chose not to hate it. I'm just glad everyone is happy in the end, but what do I know, the characters are very good at putting on a fake smile. I felt like ever since Hina got found out about her relationship with Natsuo, her side of the story has been so heart-wrenching. A spectator to your ex, quitting becoming a teacher, being a victim of a stalker, car-accident induced coma, too much happened to her. But I did like her growth as a character, and so I am happy she got a good ending. Not gonna lie, I initially thought Hina's actions were very questionable, but that was only because my opinions were based on the anime. I'm very glad I went to read the manga, because I enjoyed the journey way more than I was expecting. I wish the manga showed more of Shibasaki and Kabasawa after highschool, but I'm glad in they got engaged. (Lowkey have a crush on Kabasawa >///<) Also, was I the only one nervous that Tanabe would make an appearance in the last chapter? I'm glad that piece of shit got justice served. 7/10 |
Sa1amatSep 16, 2020 2:24 AM
yoyoboyvrn said: Does hina will be able to have a child?? According to Sasuga, it'd take a miracle for her to be able to have a child, since her body was weakened with the coma. |
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Mausoom_28 said: Rui was the character who got the biggest character development and she is the best one for natsuo to marry After everything that has happened obviously Hina did more things to Natsuo than Rui but Hina acted like a big sister all this time so i dont really see them as a couple natsuo and rui dated for more than 150 chapters and ended with hina brruh i cantttt the worst ending for those who say hina did more she did things for him only when rui was gone ( to study) when she was with him she did everything she could for him i believe natsuo had more fun and romantic times with rui unlike when he was dating hina which he felt like unrequited love This all comes down to connections in my eyes. Hina was more connected to Natsuo's dream than Rui was. Rui was always more independant, she was more career driven, and needed space, when Natsuo needed someone behind him to support him, and Hina was just that. Hina understood his dream, since she was a driving force for why he got so into writing in the first place. Hina is better suited for him because of this, she understands him on a deeper level, and is able to understand him when he gets a writers' block, meanwhile Rui doesn't, she can't, because she never inspired his dream, and was vocal about how she didn't care if he could write. |
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Mausoom_28 said: i believe natsuo had more fun and romantic times with rui unlike when he was dating hina which he felt like unrequited love He wrote an award winning novel when putting his feels for Hina into his writing and Rui never got the equivalent, lol. That alone is huge. and she is the best one for natsuo to marry The manga literally displays time & time again how Hina with her personality similar to Natsuos' deceased mom Jun, understood Natsuo & impacted his writing better than anyone + had great chemistry as she saw through him. That's your end game pair.  Gotta understand Nat's character better & how much that meant to him to see his connection with Hina. Heck, him & Hina slowly start falling for each other on the school rooftop by talking about things he likes, books, novels also talking about future plans, etc. Also, 1st love card is strong, esp when he was forced to separate from Hina & never truly moved on from her deep down, those rings Hina kept were crucial. Any relationship can go well during fun times, but R x N displayed time & time again that their communication issues while Rui often gets jealous & insecure due to being the rebound lover + being rather selfish was problematic & how they failed to become "a true couple". I mean, the author legit says this through Hina towards that relationship, lol:  |
Allygaythor said: Absolute dogshit ending. Pity wedding for Hina who was only in a 3 month relationship before running away instead of giving Rui the proper wedding she deserves with all the development and love she and Natsuo had. Why tf would you even make Rui pregnant at that point. Might as well end it with a happy threesome between all of them or some shit, at least it would have been better than whatever pile of steaming shit this chapter is. The salt and lack of reading skill is strong in this one. |
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Allygaythor said: Tell me how does Hina deserves to be with with Natsuo instead of Rui? I don't even give a fck about best girl and what not but they had come to a conclusion with all their arcs with Natsuo finally being decisive and Rui having no self doubts in her being with Natsuo and Hina being supportive of Natsuo and realizing her love will be unrequited and accepting her loss gracefully, the amount of bs that happen in the last few chapters was too much. It literally undo whatever character arc they had, imagine Natsuo going to the mum and saying he is very sure of making Rui happy when telling her about the marriage and then the whole bs about putting a ring on a comatose Hina when all throughout the series Hina has always been supportive of their relationship regardless of how she felt about Natsuo, we even had the whole Hina confessing to Natsuo and he had to choose between her and Rui, so what changed? Hina went to a coma, that was literally all there is to it. We can analyse and speculate all we want about how this was the right ending but based off the information and story arcs this ending was total dogshit. I can't be assed to re-explain things i've already said on reddit, so i'll link you to some of my comments on the domekano subreddit: 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/DomesticGirlfriend/comments/kymuqs/just_finished_reading_the_manga/gjhc84l?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/DomesticGirlfriend/comments/kymuqs/just_finished_reading_the_manga/gjii2an?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/DomesticGirlfriend/comments/l9k95t/postmanga_thoughts_from_a_newbie/glj0m1q?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 |
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| This is so bad that this is an art in itself. Seriously when you don't care about this at all it's quite enjoyable to check this non-sense. Especially that bonus chapters about Rui and Hina (276.1 and 276.2) that you can find on mangadex- just amazing how the author desperately tries to defend the plot till the end. Although sympathy to everyone who stayed invested in it till the end. Also, everyone should consider that this was planned as Natsuo and Hina story from sketch and even the author confirmed it in one of her interviews. Now just think about it, how she mangaed to stretch it up to 276 chapters with random drama for drama sake only. She needs a good writer or editor with balls to say stop at the right moment. Art was good, had it's moments, could be much better with some effort, ended about soap opera at best and now it's time to forget it. |
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| Well that was pretty anticlimactic.... I guess the Rui and Natsuo development just went down the drain. |
Zane_0 said: Well that was pretty anticlimactic.... I guess the Rui and Natsuo development just went down the drain. when will these kinds of posts stop, it didn't go down the drain. Rui x Nat helped both of them grow as humans, it tought them a shit ton about life and how it is unpredictable. In the end he was meant to be with Hina. Doesn't mean it all went down the drain |
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greed2 said: ArimaKana said: Hahahaha what a way to end this farce but I'm kinda glad since I get to say this to all the toxic Rui fans who were shitting on Hina for no fucking reason "On your faces suckers." Agreed. Honestly, those toxic fans had showed very disgusting behavior in Twitter for abusive tweets towards Hina and the author. I like Rui, she is a really good girl. If Re:Creators was possible, and if Rui sees her own toxic fanbase. I am pretty sure that she will be disgusted. Honestly, the results isn't that bad. I seen worse transitions in romance stories. Example, Marvel's romance story with Jane and Thor, a lot of build up in the first two Thor movies only to abruptly end with Jane dumping Thor in another movie. I know there was some issues with the actress. but the writers could have done a better job in handling that. Clubby said: when will these kinds of posts stop, it didn't go down the drain. Rui x Nat helped both of them grow as humans, it tought them a shit ton about life and how it is unpredictable. In the end he was meant to be with Hina. Doesn't mean it all went down the drain Sometimes I Wonder if hate abuse posts on the author has completely stopped; often went to Twitter and made reports on abusive tweets on the author. The story was beautifully written, yet too many philistines that lack proper reading comprehension skills to understand the beauty of DomeKano. Nothing down the drain. They haven't completely stopped, some continue to pop up on the domekano subreddit from time to time, and Sasuga sometimes gets hate on twitter as well... Kinda sad that it still happens and that it ever happened at all, but it's the anime community, so it isn't surprising. |
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| Well that was painful, but I don't feel let down. |
Teach a man to cook, and he can’t fish. But teach a man to fish, and he feeds himself and cooks. -👧 ( ° ω ˣ ) |
| Everyone: "dont waste your time reading it, the ending is terrible" Me being a contrarian: "lol nah it will be fine, if so many people dislike it I bet its actually because its good and most people have bad taste!" Me after finishing the manga: "oh God, why I didn't listen? I regret everything" Honestly, this was GoT level of bad ending, like SnK level of bad ending. It really ruined the experience for me, even though there were good moments, I just cant get over the fact of how bad this ending was, author had dropped the ball before, but this was like a slap to the face. I wish I heard everyone and didnt waste my time reading this. Lesson learned |
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