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Jun 3, 2020 12:16 PM
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Wait.

Are People/Hina fans really happy about this? Wtf? Ahhaahha
this will be remembered as the worst victory and the worst ending of all time, while Natsuo the most disgusting protagonist of any romantic manga, not to mention Hina, a pathetic 30-year-old unable to move on after a three-month story, who cancels herself completely for love, flushes her career down the toilet and does nothing but run away from her problems and lie. And in the end? She wins thanks to an act of mercy by Rui and a vegetative coma.
No matter what or how romantic you see in this obsessive and toxic "love", it's all about pity and giving the prize to the "poor girl who has suffered through the whole story".

If Natsuo had really loved her, he would have chosen her sooner, he wouldn't have waited until she was in a vegetative coma to magically realize he loved her, love is not a reward for those who sacrifice the most.
And I laugh at those who say "you are salty", are you sure YOU are not the salty ones because you don't like the fact that people dislike how this story has been destroyed, and all the characters made pathetic, at the cost of giving Hina a pity win?

Honestly I don't envy Hina at all, I'm glad that Rui became an independent woman, with a career and able to live without a man, unlike Hina who started out as a home-wrecker and became pathetic and boring throughout the manga, without character development, her life revolves around a 16-year-old boy with whom she had a relationship for 3 months, and to win she had to end up in a coma for 5 years, you call that a victory? In the end, Rui got ALL the manga with Natsuo, so if hina got the consolation and pity prize at the end of the manga, I'm not really worried about it, I can't help laughing, because ALL people with a minimum of brains understand how pathetic and senseless it all is
Jun 3, 2020 1:07 PM

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Man Sasuga gives no fucks. From her twitter;

"Thank you for your feedback and RT this week. There are various opinions, but I and the staff in charge arrived here with conviction. So it doesn't matter what you think. Next week, we will have a lot of last decorations on the front cover, the top of the bag, and the whole bag, so please buy a magazine by all means."

"So it doesn't matter what you think."

I fucking love it. kek.


She is going direct to my favourite list.

Btw, For all of you critics, good luck writing your own manga, or maybe you founded a mangaka school? LOL

stop justifying your salt with the writing.


People are allowed to criticize the story kid. You would literally be doing the exact same thing if Rui won instead of Hina.

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TsukuyomiREKT said:
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She is going direct to my favourite list.

Btw, For all of you critics, good luck writing your own manga, or maybe you founded a mangaka school? LOL

stop justifying your salt with the writing.


People are allowed to criticize the story kid. You would literally be doing the exact same thing if Rui won instead of Hina.


They are indeed, but when their interpretation of the story is so off-the-mark , and the criticisms only show precisely the moment their ship stops sailing, it's saying a lot... it just looks petty.

Most Rui fans question her own decisions & words in recent chapters, where she only speaks the truth and shows her emotional growth, which seems to indicate that they merely care about their ship sailing rather than trying to understand Rui herself.

Look, while she won't make any favorite lists of mine for sure, and I certainly don't think she's the best one for someone like Natsuo, especially when compared to Hina(his passion for writing plays a big part in this, but also their personalities), but I still understand & appreciate the growth she shows from the experience of being with him. But to accept her growth, you have to accept where she messed up.

Like, look at the comment above you for instance, which in it's later half says:
Rui got ALL the manga with Natsuo
+ a few salt-heavy Hina hate words which are not even worth quoting

I pin-pointed in an earlier post here and can do so in even more detail at which point her relationship starts with him(ch115), what happened during the build-up towards that(Natsuo's still into very much into Hina once island arc ch 92-97, happens), the other arcs present during the time they're dating, Hina very present there as well(returns home from at ch 129), the fact that Rui has a lot of chapters where she's at work alone or with chefboi, then leaving for NY at which her interactions with Natsuo amount to the rare call(ch198+). Not to mention what actually happens in their relationship. Even after he goes to NY to her again in 249/250 he then returns to Japan and it's Hina yet again that's with him for Togen's burial, and at the moment he starts writing again.

And yet the "200+ ChApthErs of Rui x NaT WasTed" argument is thrown around as if it holds any truth. That's literally making up one's own headcanon then complaining that it didn't happen.

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I'll summarise my entire review in a few words.
Ah, 2020 being 2020. Great year!
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ManlyTear said:
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People are allowed to criticize the story kid. You would literally be doing the exact same thing if Rui won instead of Hina.


They are indeed, but when their interpretation of the story is so off-the-mark , and the criticisms only show precisely the moment their ship stops sailing, it's saying a lot... it just looks petty.

Most Rui fans question her own decisions & words in recent chapters, where she only speaks the truth and shows her emotional growth, which seems to indicate that they merely care about their ship sailing rather than trying to understand Rui herself.

Look, while she won't make any favorite lists of mine for sure, and I certainly don't think she's the best one for someone like Natsuo, especially when compared to Hina(his passion for writing plays a big part in this, but also their personalities), but I still understand & appreciate the growth she shows from the experience of being with him. But to accept her growth, you have to accept where she messed up.

Like, look at the comment above you for instance, which in it's later half says:
Rui got ALL the manga with Natsuo
+ a few salt-heavy Hina hate words which are not even worth quoting

I pin-pointed in an earlier post here and can do so in even more detail at which point her relationship starts with him(ch115), what happened during the build-up towards that(Natsuo's still into very much into Hina once island arc ch 92-97, happens), the other arcs present during the time they're dating, Hina very present there as well(returns home from at ch 129), the fact that Rui has a lot of chapters where she's at work alone or with chefboi, then leaving for NY at which her interactions with Natsuo amount to the rare call(ch198+). Not to mention what actually happens in their relationship. Even after he goes to NY to her again in 249/250 he then returns to Japan and it's Hina yet again that's with him for Togen's burial, and at the moment he starts writing again.

And yet the "200+ ChApthErs of Rui x NaT WasTed" argument is thrown around as if it holds any truth. That's literally making up one's own headcanon then complaining that it didn't happen.



Oh come on, stop with the "she's grown emotionaly" bullshit, leaving the father of your child because your sister is sad is the farthest thing from maturity ever.
I mean, cool for you if you're happy with this ending, but it is bad, whether you like it or not. I love how you're like, smug enough to be sure that your "analysis" is right, even though you're litteraly the only one who saw it, the reason being that you're seeing things.
Oh, and before I get called "hina hater" or whatnot, I didn't have problem with Uruka winning in boku dekinai, or yotsuba winning in quintessential, because these endings made the most sense, even though they weren't best girls in my opinion
Hina could have been a great ending if it was done well, but this is just shit, even if he were to go back to Rui in the end.
Oh, and earlier you said we complain of the quality only now, because rui is out, but if you read other posts before talking, most people complain about the whole 2 last arcs.
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Man, I'm just so exhausted reading this manga.
They just did both sisters very dirty, and they're ending it up so half-assed it's not even funny.
Want to make Rui and Natsuo split up? Make it have at least a bit of sense, honestly how are Hina fans happy about this outcome at all? Yall laughing about how we said that Natsuo is marrying Hina out of guilt, but don't you guys feel that too? (idc what kind of bullcrap the author made Natsuo say this chapter, everything is just so... bullcrap lol)
Honestly, remove all the damn arc where Natsuo goes to America for Rui and I would've been fine with Hina and Natsuo ending up together... but for Rui and Natsuo to split like this AND making Hina end up with Natsuo with such poor writing is just... damn.

Anyways, manga should've just ended at chapter 115 lol
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As a Rui Shipper I hate this chapter not because Natsuo didn't end up with Rui (although that is disappointing) but because I see no way Hina will be okay with the fact that they canceled the wedding for her. She will be riddled with guilt and only 1 more chapter is not going to be able to convincingly solve that.
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If this mangaka doesn't deliver a full explosive mess I will be mad.

Sasuga did not gave a fuck making this tenelovela that I loved to read and if it has a dull ending. That would be dissapointing.

I can't imagine how the readers who thought this would have decent writting and were seriously invested in this story are feeling.


btw I don't visualize Haruka living only with natsuo or only with Rui. SO either way i think the 4 of them will live together. HAHAHAHA
Jun 3, 2020 10:25 PM
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fuckin cringe chapter.
we gonna be stones until stone ocean
Jun 3, 2020 11:03 PM
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An honest question for those Hina fans that are saying "this is a great ending", what do you think Hina will say after waking up and hearing Natsuo's decision? She'll hug him and say "I've loved you for so long"?

I ship no one at this point, bailed out of the ships long ago.
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As Sasuga said on Twitter, it doesn't matter now and she doesn't care what we think. And she and her team think they've all figured out a great way to sort out the love triangle. Well, that's her right as an author. But this does not negate the fact that this ending actually lower than average.
BTW, if there is another unexpected twist in the last chapter, it maybe will make this story even worse. And it may well happen if you know enough about how Sasuga does.
Jun 4, 2020 12:13 AM
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Congrats for Hina but i'm impressed on how she won Natsuo..nothing more nothing less.
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I can not... even deal with this shit...

I’m sorry but Rui and Natsuo deciding that he should marry Hina whilst she’s in a coma is just fucking weird! Like, can Hina have a choice or...? There’s a part of me that wants Hina to ditch Natsuo because there’s no satisfaction in her do what HE wants yet again.

This chapter really proved what a piece of shit Natsuo... not a single bit of character development

SuperKamiNappa said:
As a Rui Shipper I hate this chapter not because Natsuo didn't end up with Rui (although that is disappointing) but because I see no way Hina will be okay with the fact that they canceled the wedding for her. She will be riddled with guilt and only 1 more chapter is not going to be able to convincingly solve that.

Thank you! That what I’ve been saying! All Hina wanted was for Rui & Natsuo to become a family and Ben happy together.... she’s never going to be okay with the fact that they ended up breaking up because of her and spending years of their life on pause because she was in a coma

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katie_potaty said:
SuperKamiNappa said:
As a Rui Shipper I hate this chapter not because Natsuo didn't end up with Rui (although that is disappointing) but because I see no way Hina will be okay with the fact that they canceled the wedding for her. She will be riddled with guilt and only 1 more chapter is not going to be able to convincingly solve that.


Thank you! That what I’ve been saying! All Hina wanted was for Rui & Natsuo to become a family and Ben happy together.... she’s never going to be okay with the fact that they ended up breaking up because of her and spending years of their life on pause because she was in a coma


The logical thing would be to see Hina open Natsuo's eyes and say "you were marrying Rui and now just because I ended up in a coma you want to marry me? I don't need your pity, all I want is to see you and Rui happy."

But we know that would make too much sense, so it's never going to happen, Hina, as pathetic a person as she is, she's not going to think twice before marrying him and she's not going to give a damn about the consequences.
By the way, we know that Hina has only Natsuo in her life, she has no goals, no future, nothing, she lives only for Natsuo, so she will put on her wedding dress before she even says her first word
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I’m starting to wonder why is marriage need to be legalized? Can they all just live together like that? Is there a law to prohibit opposite gender to live together and have a child together? Hina and Rui can both have his children without being married.
I wanna know if there’s a couple that living like a married couple without actually married?

If marrying both of them is considered a crime, then don’t. As long as they know where their heart belong to, isn’t fine already living together without being married while actually acting lovey dovey like married couple?
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first the anime sucked (OST superb though), now the manga ends badly.

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Bruh, what are has this manga turned into? I actually hope the author ends it in the next chapter or two, as if it couldn't get any worse (though this might come back and bite me)
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katie_potaty said:


Thank you! That what I’ve been saying! All Hina wanted was for Rui & Natsuo to become a family and Ben happy together.... she’s never going to be okay with the fact that they ended up breaking up because of her and spending years of their life on pause because she was in a coma


The logical thing would be to see Hina open Natsuo's eyes and say "you were marrying Rui and now just because I ended up in a coma you want to marry me? I don't need your pity, all I want is to see you and Rui happy."

But we know that would make too much sense, so it's never going to happen, Hina, as pathetic a person as she is, she's not going to think twice before marrying him and she's not going to give a damn about the consequences.
By the way, we know that Hina has only Natsuo in her life, she has no goals, no future, nothing, she lives only for Natsuo, so she will put on her wedding dress before she even says her first word


You got that right! I hate that she's such a hollow character; her life revolves around a guy who isn't exactly a decent human being and she'll quite happily marry him even though he's only with her because he feels guilty as you said.
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Wait, is this the end of the series? Or will there be another chapter?

MAL still has it as ??? so I don't know if I should set is as completed.
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Wait, is this the end of the series? Or will there be another chapter?

MAL still has it as ??? so I don't know if I should set is as completed.

Next chapter is the last one, I think
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Next chapter is the last one, I think


k thanks.

Wonder how they'll end it...
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Vaenny said:

Wonder how they'll end it...

With another time skip and pregnant Hina.
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I’ve been a Serizawa fan since she was introduced, and that’s mainly because she’s not his effing step sister, but also she’s better anyway. And I just think that maybe all this shitty writing wouldn’t have had to happen if he went out with Serizawa instead of all this dumb crap.

This entire last thing is a joke and that’s really saddening. Oh well, shrug.
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I feel like puking
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The logical thing would be to see Hina open Natsuo's eyes and say "you were marrying Rui and now just because I ended up in a coma you want to marry me? I don't need your pity, all I want is to see you and Rui happy."

But we know that would make too much sense, so it's never going to happen, Hina, as pathetic a person as she is, she's not going to think twice before marrying him and she's not going to give a damn about the consequences.
By the way, we know that Hina has only Natsuo in her life, she has no goals, no future, nothing, she lives only for Natsuo, so she will put on her wedding dress before she even says her first word


You got that right! I hate that she's such a hollow character; her life revolves around a guy who isn't exactly a decent human being and she'll quite happily marry him even though he's only with her because he feels guilty as you said.

Except its not pity. Natsuo himself says this. It's fine if you don't like the ending, it wouldve been nice if it was more flashed out granted. But lets stop with headcanon. He straight up tells Marie hes doing it because he wants too and then tells Hina he always loved her.
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are you ready to see another time skip or not with Rui with the other guy ?
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He straight up tells Marie hes doing it because he wants too and then tells Hina he always loved her.


Somewhere in the back of his mind, apparently. Since reading the last 150+ chapters of the manga, this is not exactly visible.
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He straight up tells Marie hes doing it because he wants too and then tells Hina he always loved her.


Somewhere in the back of his mind, apparently. Since reading the last 150+ chapters of the manga, this is not exactly visible.

I do really feel like Sasuga should've shown more hesitation on Natsuos front. Its clear that sasuga thinks that we should've seen that Natsuo still loved Hina but she didn't show enough. Shes been planning this ending so its weird as fuck to me she didn't show more conflict within Natsuo. Maybe thats just the way she wanted to do it though. I'm happy Hina has won but Sasuga really needed more chapters to flesh it out more. Oh well, Sasuga will be fine. I'm sure she'll happily move on to her next work within a couple years. I'm interested to see what she does next though.
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I do really feel like Sasuga should've shown more hesitation on Natsuos front. Its clear that sasuga thinks that we should've seen that Natsuo still loved Hina but she didn't show enough. Shes been planning this ending so its weird as fuck to me she didn't show more conflict within Natsuo. Maybe thats just the way she wanted to do it though. I'm happy Hina has won but Sasuga really needed more chapters to flesh it out more. Oh well, Sasuga will be fine. I'm sure she'll happily move on to her next work within a couple years. I'm interested to see what she does next though.


Quite obvious. If she 100% decided to make the final of Natsuo x Hina then she can also easily make the final of Rui x Kajita. Like Rui is actually somewhere deep down in her mind, always loved Kajita. Even from her school times.
That would have also come out of nowhere and will be even worse final then.

But as we see, she can always apply the divine timeskip.
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You got that right! I hate that she's such a hollow character; her life revolves around a guy who isn't exactly a decent human being and she'll quite happily marry him even though he's only with her because he feels guilty as you said.

Except its not pity. Natsuo himself says this. It's fine if you don't like the ending, it wouldve been nice if it was more flashed out granted. But lets stop with headcanon. He straight up tells Marie hes doing it because he wants too and then tells Hina he always loved her.


It's pity, no matter what you think
Natsuo chose Hina after she was hit by a truck, after three people told him "hey hina has done so much for you" and Rui literally told him "you have to be with Hina, she has nothing, just you" and that's all, it's pathetic.

If Natsuo had loved Hina, he would have chosen her without this accident, because if the accident hadn't happened, Natsuo would be married to Rui now, this is ONLY a consequence of the guilt they feel for Hina.

Natsuo saying "I've always loved you"?
I don't buy it, in everyone's eyes it's pity, and this will always be, because it's the story and the 270 previous chapters that showed us that the one he loved was Rui, not Hina.
Then, if you can't go beyond your preference for Hina and let yourself be fooled by a bubble in one chapter, good for you, I judge everything I have seen in the story and that is nothing but pity.
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Except its not pity. Natsuo himself says this. It's fine if you don't like the ending, it wouldve been nice if it was more flashed out granted. But lets stop with headcanon. He straight up tells Marie hes doing it because he wants too and then tells Hina he always loved her.


It's pity, no matter what you think
Natsuo chose Hina after she was hit by a truck, after three people told him "hey hina has done so much for you" and Rui literally told him "you have to be with Hina, she has nothing, just you" and that's all, it's pathetic.

If Natsuo had loved Hina, he would have chosen her without this accident, because if the accident hadn't happened, Natsuo would be married to Rui now, this is ONLY a consequence of the guilt they feel for Hina.

Natsuo saying "I've always loved you"?
I don't buy it, in everyone's eyes it's pity, and this will always be, because it's the story and the 270 previous chapters that showed us that the one he loved was Rui, not Hina.
Then, if you can't go beyond your preference for Hina and let yourself be fooled by a bubble in one chapter, good for you, I judge everything I have seen in the story and that is nothing but pity.

Again, Natsuo says its not. I don't care what some literal who says on MAL, that being you. Sasuga has stated its not. So its not. Anything not shown or stated by the manga is the literal definition of headcanon. Natsuo has stated that its not pity, so its not. If you think it is, fair enough. But that then goes into headacanon territory and your point is invalid.
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It's pity, no matter what you think
Natsuo chose Hina after she was hit by a truck, after three people told him "hey hina has done so much for you" and Rui literally told him "you have to be with Hina, she has nothing, just you" and that's all, it's pathetic.

If Natsuo had loved Hina, he would have chosen her without this accident, because if the accident hadn't happened, Natsuo would be married to Rui now, this is ONLY a consequence of the guilt they feel for Hina.

Natsuo saying "I've always loved you"?
I don't buy it, in everyone's eyes it's pity, and this will always be, because it's the story and the 270 previous chapters that showed us that the one he loved was Rui, not Hina.
Then, if you can't go beyond your preference for Hina and let yourself be fooled by a bubble in one chapter, good for you, I judge everything I have seen in the story and that is nothing but pity.

Again, Natsuo says its not. I don't care what some literal who says on MAL, that being you. Sasuga has stated its not. So its not.


Yeah, Sasuga also stated that Natsuo was in love with Rui and he chose her back in NY, and he also went to his mother's grave to confirm his love for Rui, so?
It's pity, then you can think what you want, I won't change my mind
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Again, Natsuo says its not. I don't care what some literal who says on MAL, that being you. Sasuga has stated its not. So its not.


Yeah, Sasuga also stated that Natsuo was in love with Rui and he chose her back in NY, and he also went to his mother's grave to confirm his love for Rui, so?
It's pity, then you can think what you want, I won't change my mind

I don't plan to change your mind, lol. I don't need to. The manga/Sasuga say its not pity or guilt. Again, if you want to believe it, that's your prerogative but that again goes into headcanon when the source material directly states otherwise. We're not gonna come to an agreement so best to leave it.
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In fact, if judged openly according to what is shown in the manga, it turns out that it's really 50% pity. And 50% of what he heard from the master (although he has already been told this. Shuu for example. And Hina herself). All that and five years of his cares of Hina made him realize that he had always loved Hina.

I said more then once that I'll be fine with Hina's ending, although I always prefered Rui. But this ending seems to me wildly far fetched.
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You got that right! I hate that she's such a hollow character; her life revolves around a guy who isn't exactly a decent human being and she'll quite happily marry him even though he's only with her because he feels guilty as you said.

Except its not pity. Natsuo himself says this. It's fine if you don't like the ending, it wouldve been nice if it was more flashed out granted. But lets stop with headcanon. He straight up tells Marie hes doing it because he wants too and then tells Hina he always loved her.


And that's shitty writing lol. Like even if it's not out of pity, it still makes no sense.

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Darudius said:

Except its not pity. Natsuo himself says this. It's fine if you don't like the ending, it wouldve been nice if it was more flashed out granted. But lets stop with headcanon. He straight up tells Marie hes doing it because he wants too and then tells Hina he always loved her.


And that's shitty writing lol. Like even if it's not out of pity, it still makes no sense.


You say it's bad writing just because your waifu doesn't win, crybaby.
If it twist again without reason in the last chapter, I't will fine for you again.
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And that's shitty writing lol. Like even if it's not out of pity, it still makes no sense.


You say it's bad writing just because your waifu doesn't win, crybaby.
If it twist again without reason in the last chapter, I't will fine for you again.


Nope. I'm fine with my favorite girl losing as long as the ending makes sense. And this shit doesn't.

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And now I remembered raging on Sasuga's Twitter Hina fans.


Well... hina fans had a valid reason at least: they had endured 200 chapters of their waifu crying because of her selfish sister and all the shit it happened to the dense MC, to just receive a baby out of the blue completely, that at the moment had a huge deus ex mantle, so much even rui fans were highly surprised, so then that play seemed as a dick move. You people instead, are just crying because you couldnt understand the nuances behind the story and all the subtext that appointed to this and thus got wasted at the end. All the proof is in manly tear comments in a very hand helding way, personally i was expecting such a twist months ago. Hey you cant not get everything in life, its either at the beginning or at the end, but not both.dont pretend everyone is the same.
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If you only want rui to end up with natsuo because they have child and all of you are like rui fucking selfish. If you follow every chapter you can see that hina broke up with nasuo only for natsuo sake she dont want to destroy natsuo future she only want natsuo to be happy. As you can see after they broke up rui started to cling on him even if rui knows that natsuo is her sister ex and also natsuo fell inlove of rui because of rui take care of natsuo and rui is always by her side. By time hina came back hina said to her mother that she was so lonely she was cry always she know what will happen to her but she continue their relationship because she really love natsuo she accepted the punishment. When hina first love came to the island she rejected him and she say that he cannot move with natsuo because natsuo is the only person she loved. Natsuo only pick rui because natsuo didn't know hina feelings because hina said that its up to natsuo to know the truth because hina always surpressed her feeling for natsuo because of her sister hina is not selfish compare to rui and also natsuo pick rui because when they broke up natsuo feeling is still for rui and also when rui gets bullied that why he choose rui without hesitation.

Natsuo should end up with hina because first: natsuo said to hina's first love that "broke up with hina" natsuo love hina and knows that affairs are not right. second: hina take care of natsuo when natsuo still can't write hina always support natsuo. Third: they have a lot of memories that they spend together compare to natsuo x rui. Fourth: hina cherish natsuo more and more that she set aside her own happiness, she always talk about how natsuo succeded in writhing that when she seemed the most happy, although part of her is in pain too. But over time even that got better hina didn't expect anything in return.

Rui is right that she don't deserve to be happy. hina lost almost everything and rui can't take natsuo from her. Because rui will become selfish if she force take natsuo away from her.

Hina suffered a lot than rui just for natsuo sake. Natsuo should end up with hina

The manga is great the Author did a good job ^_^

Im fan of natsuo and serizawa but still hina and natsuo should be together because of the plot of the story


You are right bro.
I'm glad that there are still people who think rationally.
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I'm really like it, these posts from accounts that have been just registered and don't even have any titles in anime and manga, but have a single post in the domekano discussion.
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Wait.

Are People/Hina fans really happy about this? Wtf? Ahhaahha
this will be remembered as the worst victory and the worst ending of all time, while Natsuo the most disgusting protagonist of any romantic manga, not to mention Hina, a pathetic 30-year-old unable to move on after a three-month story, who cancels herself completely for love, flushes her career down the toilet and does nothing but run away from her problems and lie. And in the end? She wins thanks to an act of mercy by Rui and a vegetative coma.
No matter what or how romantic you see in this obsessive and toxic "love", it's all about pity and giving the prize to the "poor girl who has suffered through the whole story".

If Natsuo had really loved her, he would have chosen her sooner, he wouldn't have waited until she was in a vegetative coma to magically realize he loved her, love is not a reward for those who sacrifice the most.
And I laugh at those who say "you are salty", are you sure YOU are not the salty ones because you don't like the fact that people dislike how this story has been destroyed, and all the characters made pathetic, at the cost of giving Hina a pity win?

Honestly I don't envy Hina at all, I'm glad that Rui became an independent woman, with a career and able to live without a man, unlike Hina who started out as a home-wrecker and became pathetic and boring throughout the manga, without character development, her life revolves around a 16-year-old boy with whom she had a relationship for 3 months, and to win she had to end up in a coma for 5 years, you call that a victory? In the end, Rui got ALL the manga with Natsuo, so if hina got the consolation and pity prize at the end of the manga, I'm not really worried about it, I can't help laughing, because ALL people with a minimum of brains understand how pathetic and senseless it all is


This explains exactly what I feel right now. Everything about Hina makes me cringe.
Natsuo is a failed character who doesn't know what he wants. He didn't even care about Rui as much as she did! I think he deserves to be alone. He must learn to stand on his own feet without the help of any woman. This would be fair.
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Akagi-kun said:
I'm really like it, these posts from accounts that have been just registered and don't even have any titles in anime and manga, but have a single post in the domekano discussion.


wtf, do you really classify people opinions accordly to the lenght of their lists? do you think it is a good metric?
I've more than 500 entries in my anime list so i suppose that i deserve to be at least read by you master. xD
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Level5-1996 said:

wtf, do you really classify people opinions accordly to the lenght of their lists? do you think it is a good metric?
I've more than 500 entries in my anime list so i suppose that i deserve to be at least read by you master. xD


That's not what I'm talking about.
Although, I think, you understand perfectly well what about I actually wrote.
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Interesting that now she complains she gets hate mainly from foreign fans.
Are Japanese happy with the ending or they're just polite enough not to trash talk author?
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Seems correct the second.
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Hey peeps, after seeing a lot of arguments among fans of Rui or Hina, i personally have an opinion which i would like to voice out. It's just an opinion, so no offense to anyone. I saw one comment recently which i think its quite logical. (The comment states Natsuo's choosing Hina was not due to guilt, but because he loves Hina more than Rui). I quite agree to this statement, Yes there may be guilt but that is not the decisive blow of Natsuo's choice. Here i would like to start my discussion. Yup from here it'll clear I'm kinda biased towards Rui, however here I'm not biased against Hina. I love the character Hina. Rui as well. Both of them have their characters of their own. Hina - the more mature one who hides her feeling for the Natsuo. Rui - the cute type (obviously first time having a relationship; that is why she gets jealous easily). Her decision not to tell Hina about Hina's actual feelings, was well to me, quite a rational move; many may said it's selfish, but try putting in the shoes of Rui. You will do the same. (Not 100% accurate claim as some may be so kind to tell the truth, that i invite a standing ovation for you, you did a job well done as an ultimate pure-hearted person). Both their character development were good. Undeniably good. Hina chose to care for Natsuo behind the shadows and really honest to herself (though yet to confess out her true feelings until the final chapter), as for Rui (slowly become a mature and ideal girlfriend/wife material). I can say both of the can be categorized as main heroine at this point, no antagonist what not. The problem is, not to say a problem, a small issue which is not really good, not to use the word bad, coz it haven't reach that extent; is on part of Natsuo. Definitely a good character with fabulous and flamboyant development. Indeed your characters are very good, the author Kei Sasuga actually has some splendid writing ability. Now let me talk about the part of natsuo which was not really right. Natsuo once said without Hina there wouldn't be me today. This statement is quite unfair, as the truth is (no offense), it should be without Rui and Hina, there wouldn't be me today. Hina made Natsuo realized a lot of stuff created ideas for his story or what not, however u cannot denied that Rui did the same stuff. People tend to forgot what Rui done mainly because she is the light in 100+ episodes, while Hina is the shadow. Just like in naruto, Sasuke the shadow hokage and Naruto the hokage, people tend to feel that the shadow suffer more and contributed more. Yup, indeed Hina undeniably may have contributed more but it's just a slight (mainly the accident). I wouldn't mentioned the breakup as Rui did the same thing (May of different ways and scenario); but their actual reason for their breakup is the same. U may think Rui made a selfish decision coz she dumped Natsuo when he was in a slump. Hmmm...tbh I don't think so. Like Hina (breakup as she scared Natsuo's future will be affected), (same goes to Rui, as she doesn't want to be a burden to Natsuo; not obviously plotted but its true). Hence, my opinion is that both Hina and Rui are really good characters and went through a long journey in supporting Natsuo (in their own ways). Now coming back to Natsuo. This is the main part i wanna give my opinion on. Yes as you said, Natsuo indeed love Hina more than Rui. But why such feelings appear, not mainly due to Marie yea. Is becoz Natsuo never really forgotten Hina. Deep inside his heart there are still feelings for Hina. He blocked it as he thought Hina has forgotten him. However, when he first heard Shu that Hina still like him, bang, feelings for Hina starts to flow out. Here decision time, I understand at that time if he made his decision to be with Hina that will of best reality (imagine), as Rui ald broke up wif Natsuo. Yet as we know a plot twist came, and Natsuo says he loves Rui and wants to be together again. As a result Rui is pregnant and they had Haruka. From here, let us compare to the final part where he decided not to be with Rui and be with Hina. We can clearly seem that Natsuo actually knows that Hina and Rui both still like him, yet he was unclear of his choice and he chose Rui at that moment. This is a bit, strongly mention the word a bit coz I don't wanna create any offenses, in Natsuo's part as he did not made up his clear mind bfr he chose Rui. Tbh one can actually imagine at this time Natsuo is in love in both Rui and Hina though he is practically dating Rui. Then as we know an accident occurred and they found out everything. At this moment Natsuo realized he loved Hina more than Rui (after knowing what Hina done for him), (tbh like i mentioned the good deeds done by Hina for Natsuo in the shadows is hard, yet Rui has equal contribution as during the time when she was Natsuo's girlfriend as we know, having a gf gives you plenty of motivation) (the main gap between their contribution is the accident). The accident was acceptable tbh, so i hope all of us don't really blame the author for it, as plot twist are necessary to make stories interesting). Here we can clearly seen that Rui fans and Hina fan quarreling, is mainly due to Natsuo being not clear towards himself when he once again be tgt with Rui. This is the slight disappointment with Natsuo as a MC. Imagine urself being a man, when ur ex was in an accident, becoz of u. You two still have feeling of affection for each other however, you have a fiancee. Would you cancel off the wedding and marry ur ex? I guess it's a not right? So in short Rui and Hina are fascinating characters, Natsuo as well, however the story has a slight bad part in character of the MC which he is slightly irresponsible towards his decision. Though Rui agree not to marry, this is not something she must atone, but when she decided to do so, it once again show how great a character she was (Doubt in real life there will be such pure-hearted person - Hope so haha). Anyways I personally like the story Domestic Girlfriend as a lot of story in it fits the topic itself and it's a good manga. So hope all fans and readers like me would appreciate the Art of Kei Sasuga and don't argue due to the mistake made by Natsuo. (As mistakes are inevitable even in real life, probably what some authors may try to convey such msg to us). Sorry for spamming, and no offense. Cheers for all fans and let us gladly enjoy the coming final chapter 😄
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Fuminon said:
Wait.

Are People/Hina fans really happy about this? Wtf? Ahhaahha
this will be remembered as the worst victory and the worst ending of all time, while Natsuo the most disgusting protagonist of any romantic manga, not to mention Hina, a pathetic 30-year-old unable to move on after a three-month story, who cancels herself completely for love, flushes her career down the toilet and does nothing but run away from her problems and lie. And in the end? She wins thanks to an act of mercy by Rui and a vegetative coma.
No matter what or how romantic you see in this obsessive and toxic "love", it's all about pity and giving the prize to the "poor girl who has suffered through the whole story".

If Natsuo had really loved her, he would have chosen her sooner, he wouldn't have waited until she was in a vegetative coma to magically realize he loved her, love is not a reward for those who sacrifice the most.
And I laugh at those who say "you are salty", are you sure YOU are not the salty ones because you don't like the fact that people dislike how this story has been destroyed, and all the characters made pathetic, at the cost of giving Hina a pity win?

Honestly I don't envy Hina at all, I'm glad that Rui became an independent woman, with a career and able to live without a man, unlike Hina who started out as a home-wrecker and became pathetic and boring throughout the manga, without character development, her life revolves around a 16-year-old boy with whom she had a relationship for 3 months, and to win she had to end up in a coma for 5 years, you call that a victory? In the end, Rui got ALL the manga with Natsuo, so if hina got the consolation and pity prize at the end of the manga, I'm not really worried about it, I can't help laughing, because ALL people with a minimum of brains understand how pathetic and senseless it all is


Overdramatic fanbase, the discord created for the manga series is a cesspool of hina fans who would kill anyone who dares go against them
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I hope Sasuga will take her mistake into account next time.
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It's no bad that at least someone likes it.
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