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May 16, 2019 10:28 AM

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Time to play a game....RIGHT-Wingers vs. Islamists, who believes what?

>We believe in traditional values centered around GOD and family.

>We believe that gays should NOT marry.

>We believe trans-people have a mental disorder and we should NOT condone them or their livestyle.

>We are against abortion.

>We DON’T like how cultures have become TOO liberal and “degenerate”

>We believe arming yourself is VERY important and that when the time comes you may have to DIE for what you believe.


Oh shit...this might be hard!
May 16, 2019 10:49 AM

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@--ALEX-- but surely some abortions are irreconcilable with a life affirming viewpoint. Surely it's okay if some aren't allowed to happen.

Does that mean all abortion has to be taken off the table? No, but you might not mind if tighter restrictions are placed on it, which is how I feel.

Anyways, I feel like what people are really worried about is that this will be a step towards overturning Roe v. Wade. I don't want to turn back the clock on society either, but this law alone doesn't exactly cause me any alarm.
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May 16, 2019 10:53 AM

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--ALEX-- said:
Time to play a game....RIGHT-Wingers vs. Islamists, who believes what?

>We believe in traditional values centered around GOD and family.

>We believe that gays should NOT marry.

>We believe trans-people have a mental disorder and we should NOT condone them or their livestyle.

>We are against abortion.

>We DON’T like how cultures have become TOO liberal and “degenerate”

>We believe arming yourself is VERY important and that when the time comes you may have to DIE for what you believe.


Oh shit...this might be hard!


See in my opinion if you're gunning against a fundamentalist attitude then you're actually forming a strawman argument. Conservatives are smarter than all that. They know you're still allowed to see things their way which is often harkening to common sense.

And by the way there are very religious people on the left too and that really is an important part of the base.
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May 16, 2019 6:21 PM

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Voldo said:
Only_Brad said:
Finally some goods new in CE. Less children being murderer in their mother's belly.

It's funny how you act like defiant toddlers in your wish to call fetuses children and abortion murder.

Nightmare21st said:
This is like one of the only political topics which I don't care what happens honestly. I mean I have my opinions on which one I think is right. but I just don't necessarily care that much for some reason.

Safe to assume you are male then.


No, I'm actaully pro - choice. Its just one of these topics where no one really listens to each other so it doesn't really matter
May 16, 2019 7:33 PM

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Oh perish the thought! Developing children in the womb not being killed? How scary!

If the thought of human beings actually living to be born and experience life angers you so much, you can just grab a gun and shoot them yourself when they come out of the womb! Or go and dismember them yourself in the womb if that's your preference.

Seriously though, people still pretending there is something extremely difficult about the topic of killing other human beings because of someone else's irresponsibility in this day and age? And yet not one of those brave souls would want to be aborted themselves. That certainly says all that needs to be said about this....
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May 16, 2019 10:20 PM

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--ALEX-- said:
Time to play a game....RIGHT-Wingers vs. Islamists, who believes what?


>We believe in traditional values centered around GOD and family.

i don't really care too much for pushing this on people, and i don't even know what you're probably going to label as "traditional values"

>We believe that gays should NOT marry.

it's not a hill i'd die on.
all in all ambivalent to be quite honest.

>We believe trans-people have a mental disorder and we should NOT condone them or their livestyle.

well, it kinda is a mental disorder and i don't think the "lifestyle "should be encouraged. that you're bigoted enough to refer to transgenderism as a "lifestyle" is a little insulting to them and lets me know you probably don't know enough about it, but i'll let it slide.

>We are against abortion.

just allow it in cases like rape or incest, this isn't hard.

>We DON’T like how cultures have become TOO liberal and “degenerate”
"liberal" is relative to what country you're in, what state, what city, you have to be specific. "degenarate" is just a gaslighting bait word that you should be ashamed of even using at this point.

>We believe arming yourself is VERY important and that when the time comes you may have to DIE for what you believe.

just lol and sipping my tea at all of this one honey...

well, will alex actually try to respond and interact with a user for once? will he just ignore me now that he let us know how he feels about "those DAmn musLIMS and right wiNGErs RUininG mY usA"?
YomiyukiMay 16, 2019 10:24 PM

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



May 16, 2019 10:24 PM
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Yomiyuki said:
--ALEX-- said:
Time to play a game....RIGHT-Wingers vs. Islamists, who believes what?


>We believe in traditional values centered around GOD and family.

i don't really care too much for pushing this on people, and i don't even know what you're probably going to label as "traditional values"

>We believe that gays should NOT marry.

it's not a hill i'd die on.
all in all ambivalent to be quite honest.

>We believe trans-people have a mental disorder and we should NOT condone them or their livestyle.

well, it kinda is a mental disorder and i don't think the "lifestyle "should be encouraged. that you're bigoted enough to refer to transgenderism as a "lifestyle" is a little insulting to them and lets me know you probably don't know enough about it, but i'll let it slide.

>We are against abortion.

just allow it in cases like rape or incest, this isn't hard.

>We DON’T like how cultures have become TOO liberal and “degenerate”
"liberal" is relative to what country you're in, what state, what city, you have to be specific. "degenarate" is just a gaslighting bait word that you should be ashamed of even using at this point.

>We believe arming yourself is VERY important and that when the time comes you may have to DIE for what you believe.

just lol and sipping my tea at all of this one honey...

well, will alex actually try to respond and interact with a user for once?


he dues not even try even people on the same side as him or by the us sectum people on the same side as him libreal has never ment left wing to me
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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May 16, 2019 10:28 PM

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DateYutaka said:
Yomiyuki said:



i don't really care too much for pushing this on people, and i don't even know what you're probably going to label as "traditional values"


it's not a hill i'd die on.
all in all ambivalent to be quite honest.


well, it kinda is a mental disorder and i don't think the "lifestyle "should be encouraged. that you're bigoted enough to refer to transgenderism as a "lifestyle" is a little insulting to them and lets me know you probably don't know enough about it, but i'll let it slide.


just allow it in cases like rape or incest, this isn't hard.

"liberal" is relative to what country you're in, what state, what city, you have to be specific. "degenarate" is just a gaslighting bait word that you should be ashamed of even using at this point.


just lol and sipping my tea at all of this one honey...

well, will alex actually try to respond and interact with a user for once?


he dues not even try even people on the same side as him or by the us sectum people on the same side as him libreal has never ment left wing to me

i think alex is actually a centrist, what do you have to say about that comrade?

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



May 16, 2019 10:32 PM

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Yomiyuki said:
--ALEX-- said:
Time to play a game....RIGHT-Wingers vs. Islamists, who believes what?


>We believe in traditional values centered around GOD and family.

i don't really care too much for pushing this on people, and i don't even know what you're probably going to label as "traditional values"

>We believe that gays should NOT marry.

it's not a hill i'd die on.
all in all ambivalent to be quite honest.

>We believe trans-people have a mental disorder and we should NOT condone them or their livestyle.

well, it kinda is a mental disorder and i don't think the "lifestyle "should be encouraged. that you're bigoted enough to refer to transgenderism as a "lifestyle" is a little insulting to them and lets me know you probably don't know enough about it, but i'll let it slide.

>We are against abortion.

just allow it in cases like rape or incest, this isn't hard.

>We DON’T like how cultures have become TOO liberal and “degenerate”
"liberal" is relative to what country you're in, what state, what city, you have to be specific. "degenarate" is just a gaslighting bait word that you should be ashamed of even using at this point.

>We believe arming yourself is VERY important and that when the time comes you may have to DIE for what you believe.

just lol and sipping my tea at all of this one honey...

well, will alex actually try to respond and interact with a user for once?

you didn't disprove anything though?

those are a lot of the policies & values the republican party stands for. you personally disagreeing is irrelevant.

it's about 50/50 for republicans on gay marriage while it's around 80/20 for dems


80% of republicans believe that sex is determined at birth vs. 34% for dems


blah blah abortion


& guns


the one problem with alex's post was lumping together the whole right wing with republicans which is mostly true
May 16, 2019 10:46 PM

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yukai- said:
Yomiyuki said:



i don't really care too much for pushing this on people, and i don't even know what you're probably going to label as "traditional values"


it's not a hill i'd die on.
all in all ambivalent to be quite honest.


well, it kinda is a mental disorder and i don't think the "lifestyle "should be encouraged. that you're bigoted enough to refer to transgenderism as a "lifestyle" is a little insulting to them and lets me know you probably don't know enough about it, but i'll let it slide.


just allow it in cases like rape or incest, this isn't hard.

"liberal" is relative to what country you're in, what state, what city, you have to be specific. "degenarate" is just a gaslighting bait word that you should be ashamed of even using at this point.


just lol and sipping my tea at all of this one honey...

well, will alex actually try to respond and interact with a user for once?

you didn't disprove anything though?

those are a lot of the policies & values the republican party stands for. you personally disagreeing is irrelevant.

it's about 50/50 for republicans on gay marriage while it's around 80/20 for dems


80% of republicans believe that sex is determined at birth vs. 34% for dems


blah blah abortion


& guns


the one problem with alex's post was lumping together the whole right wing with republicans which is mostly true
disprove what? my post was targeted at his implication that the equating of muslim extremists to right-wingers(his weird definition for right-wing anyways) is somehow completely accurate. how the hell is my chiming in that no some "right-wingers" don't think that, irrelevant? the fuck?

as for everything else, yeah good thing i'm not a republican, lol.


Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



May 16, 2019 10:52 PM

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Yomiyuki said:
yukai- said:

you didn't disprove anything though?

those are a lot of the policies & values the republican party stands for. you personally disagreeing is irrelevant.

it's about 50/50 for republicans on gay marriage while it's around 80/20 for dems


80% of republicans believe that sex is determined at birth vs. 34% for dems


blah blah abortion


& guns


the one problem with alex's post was lumping together the whole right wing with republicans which is mostly true
disprove what? my post was targeted at his implication that the equating of muslim extremists to right-wingers(his weird definition for right-wing anyways) is somehow completely accurate. how the hell is my chiming in that no some "right-wingers" don't think that, irrelevant? the fuck?

as for everything else, yeah good thing i'm not a republican, lol.


his implication was correct though, in the same way that someone saying that the left believes that abortion is a right. It's common sense that a 100% consensus for an entire party is absurd.

pretty irrelevant to point that out
May 16, 2019 10:56 PM
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Yomiyuki said:
DateYutaka said:


he dues not even try even people on the same side as him or by the us sectum people on the same side as him libreal has never ment left wing to me

i think alex is actually a centrist, what do you have to say about that comrade?


my view on cnetertisr is you cannot sit on a Bayonet that fence is Bayonet imho

butthe cneterist right have alays love the right the Cneterom party bakcing the nazis as dud the SDP of the time so even as a leftisti am of Soc dems or talest w western soo dems

exmaple the soc dems in my nation share chlaose ot the views of the moden uk labour party not like sanders in the us the reson japan has always been center-right is the fact that the biggest leftest party in the deit the Kyo tai have alwyas been the party of opposition even when the JSP/JSDP Cotalion was in charge

and the LDP are openly corrupt in os many ways but connection the yakuza in rural communities help them win elections

my connections to JSP i odne canversive in rural aera and been itimaded by shady people
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
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May 16, 2019 10:58 PM

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yukai- said:
Yomiyuki said:
disprove what? my post was targeted at his implication that the equating of muslim extremists to right-wingers(his weird definition for right-wing anyways) is somehow completely accurate. how the hell is my chiming in that no some "right-wingers" don't think that, irrelevant? the fuck?

as for everything else, yeah good thing i'm not a republican, lol.


his implication was correct though, in the same way that someone saying that the left believes that abortion is a right. It's common sense that a 100% consensus for an entire party is absurd.

pretty irrelevant to point that out

it's not... how in the world are muslim extremists equatable to right-wingers... on literally any of those issues. they're all far more extreme on those things than your average republican(since that's the definition for right-wing you want to use) is.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



May 16, 2019 11:10 PM
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Yomiyuki said:
yukai- said:

his implication was correct though, in the same way that someone saying that the left believes that abortion is a right. It's common sense that a 100% consensus for an entire party is absurd.

pretty irrelevant to point that out

it's not... how in the world are muslim extremists equatable to right-wingers... on literally any of those issues. they're all far more extreme on those things than your average republican(since that's the definition for right-wing you want to use) is.


alot of Goper are hardcore pentecostal literalists whose view son gays and alike are veyr much like hardcore islmaists

hemce why the GOP and teh right are pro zionist
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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May 16, 2019 11:12 PM

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DateYutaka said:
Yomiyuki said:

it's not... how in the world are muslim extremists equatable to right-wingers... on literally any of those issues. they're all far more extreme on those things than your average republican(since that's the definition for right-wing you want to use) is.


alot of Goper are hardcore pentecostal literalists whose view son gays and alike are veyr much like hardcore islmaists

date if you can find me as many republicans that openly call for beheadings for gays and LGBTers, violence on women, and overall inhumane actions as often as hardcore islamists do, i will concede the point. if there are enough republicans compared to hardcore islamists whose actions on these things are equatable, i tip my hat to you.
YomiyukiMay 16, 2019 11:16 PM

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



May 16, 2019 11:14 PM

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Yomiyuki said:
yukai- said:

his implication was correct though, in the same way that someone saying that the left believes that abortion is a right. It's common sense that a 100% consensus for an entire party is absurd.

pretty irrelevant to point that out

it's not... how in the world are muslim extremists equatable to right-wingers... on literally any of those issues. they're all far more extreme on those things than your average republican(since that's the definition for right-wing you want to use) is.

Well yes and no

Sure in the most extreme context of each stoning someone to death for being gay is much worse than not letting them get married.

But in the context of American politics most Muslims have the same social opinions as evangelicals, who are overwhelmingly Republican

And he was simply drawing parallels, not making a 1 to 1 comparison. Plus this most recent Alabama bill is so barbaric it's even more extreme than Sharia law's policy on abortion
May 16, 2019 11:20 PM
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Yomiyuki said:
DateYutaka said:


alot of Goper are hardcore pentecostal literalists whose view son gays and alike are veyr much like hardcore islmaists

date if you can find me as many republicans that openly call for beheadings for gays and LGBTers, violence on women, and overall inhumane actions as often as hardcore islamists do, i will concede the point.


i will say anyone who comdems them as sinners ie pass moral judgemants inthem for reason of muh holy book are all the sme to me

im a man of faith bur i belaive in secular government

note look up section 22 the gop an dthe uk trrie sare the same and section 22 just saying the western views on gays are not taht progrrive hell you uk only barred the detah pen for gays 70 years ago mind you thye pnly banned the death pen fully stop tne year later

and i sure there are consvrives wo share owne beijimes view on gays


and note i said the section of the GOP whoa re harcore pentacolats ie the types who alos bakc this bill

hown many gop people come out and attakc Illhan omah an d talib for there view son Israel i wager there petaconstalts to
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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May 17, 2019 3:48 AM

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He was spot on.
May 17, 2019 10:50 AM

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Bayek said:
Time to go knock up a bunch of college girls at Ohio State.


This made me laugh way more than it should have.

Anyway economically I've always been on the "if you need an abortion pay for it" kind of thing as it is a voluntary medical procedure. I don't see why your mistake should cost the taxpayers money.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."
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I can't believe people here are actually supporting this decision. However, I see that there are more sane individuals taking a stance against this draconian crap. So I'll input some other stuff:

    It's evident that the GOP base wanted this law to be ridiculously OTP. "This bill would provide that a women who receives an abortion will not be held criminally culpable or civilly liable for receiving the abortion". I see this argument presented a-lot elsewhere, and many people don't understand it. The bill purposefully legislates that if a women is under serious health risk then an abortion is permitted. However, this does not include rape and non-consensual sex. Furthermore, AL / GA will mostly be similar, so women will be put on hold as doctors are left unable to evaluate the women's health.

    •It's obvious that the Alabama Senate wanted this go to a GOP stacked Supreme Court. The GOP base has been against Roe v Wade. As a result, what it comes down to now is if John Robert is willing to retain his legacy within the Supreme Court by voting against it.




Literally what I said 2 days ago which people are too oblivious to understand. But of course! It's clearly the 'libtards' fault for advocating for freedom of choice. But it's okay when the conservatives start crying wolf about the 1st and 2nd Amendments! These goalpost shifts are so pathetic.
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