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Apr 11, 2018 7:24 PM

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AddiTeacha2 said:
Guys I'm confused. Why would you guys even like zero two when she saw hiro as a foddler since episode 1? I know he was her darling all along but what if he wasn't? She would've straight up betray him like the others


Since EP 1 is arguable. We know that 02's ultimate goal is to "become human" so that she can be with her Darling. Which she believes she can only do by killing all the Klaxosaurs. We also know from EP 11(Right? Maybe 12?) that during her time with Hiro, her "klaxosaur-ification" has accelerated rapidly, you can see it in her horns and fangs getting longer, plus them just saying it outright.

Additionally, after Hiro gave her the hand mirror as a gift, you can see a very clear and steady decline in her mental state, almost assuredly brought about by self loathing. You can see her shattering all the reflective surfaces in the dorm/barracks/child solider resort or whatever they live in. Additionally, you can see a SUPER clear difference in how she treats Hiro starting in EP 10 (which is after she gets the mirror).

I think she had a crush on Hiro from eps 1-9, then when she started to believe that she was running out of time to "deklaxosaur" herself (eps 10-12) she decided to try and distance herself from him emotionally, since she believed that she was running out of time to save herself, and was prepared to sacrifice Hiro to try and delay that.

I think 02 views her klaxosaur-ness the same way most cancer victims view cancer. Something that they can learn to live with for a time, but need to find treatment (killing klaxosaurs), and can even go into remission, but it will always be there, waiting for a chance to come back (we know from EP 13 that she used to be full on Oni mode,but later toned it down to essentially human. We don't know how this happened, but we saw in eps 10-12, that it certainly wasn't permanent), and ultimately, if not treated, it can be very deadly (I think 02 views a failure to become human as a fate that might as well be worse than death). I think in EP 12, 02 was willing to sacrifice Hiro to try and "enter remission" if just temporarily, or if not to "enter remission" I think she, in her frantic mental state, at least believed that she could draw closer to her goal of saving herself by sacrificing Hiro.

I might be totally off the mark, but that's the vibe I'm getting. We'll have to wait for EP 14 to know more.
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Admiral_Akbar said:
AddiTeacha2 said:
Guys I'm confused. Why would you guys even like zero two when she saw hiro as a foddler since episode 1? I know he was her darling all along but what if he wasn't? She would've straight up betray him like the others


Since EP 1 is arguable. We know that 02's ultimate goal is to "become human". Which she believes she can only do by killing all the Klaxosaurs. We also know from EP 11(Right? Maybe 12?) that during her time with Hiro, her "klaxosaur-ification" has accelerated rapidly, you can see it in her horns and fangs getting longer, plus them just saying it outright.

Additionally, after Hiro gave her the hand mirror as a gift, you can see a very clear and steady decline in her mental state, almost assuredly brought about by self loathing. You can see her shattering all the reflective surfaces in the dorm/barracks/child solider resort or whatever they live in. Additionally, you can see a SUPER clear difference in how she treats Hiro starting in EP 10 (which is after she gets the mirror).

I think she had a crush on Hiro from eps 1-9, then when she started to believe that she was running out of time to "deklaxosaur" herself (eps 10-12) she decided to try and distance herself from him emotionally, since she believed that she was running out of time to save herself, and was prepared to sacrifice Hiro to try and delay that.

I think 02 views her klaxosaur-ness the same way most cancer victims view cancer. Something that they can learn to live with for a time, but need to find treatment (killing klaxosaurs), and can even go into remission, but it will always be there, waiting for a chance to come back (we know from EP 13 that she used to be full on Oni mode,but later toned it down to essentially human. We don't know how this happened, but we saw in eps 10-12, that it certainly wasn't permanent), and ultimately, if not treated, it can be very deadly (I think 02 views a failure to become human as a fate that might as well be worse than death). I think in EP 12, 02 was willing to sacrifice Hiro to try and "enter remission" if just temporarily, or if not to "enter remission" I think she, in her frantic mental state, at least believed that she could draw closer to her goal of saving herself by sacrificing Hiro.

I might be totally off the mark, but that's the vibe I'm getting. We'll have to wait for EP 14 to know more.
Good analysis and thanks for the respectful response. The thing is that I now find her to be an unlikable character since I learned the truth. She was really the reason i become interested in this show because I felt that She genuinely cared about hiro who is a human. If they made it a way that she knows it was him since episode 1 then I would understand because it would actually means she was trying her best to make him remember but of course they can't understand each other due to hiro memory loss.
Apr 11, 2018 8:01 PM

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AddiTeacha2 said:
Admiral_Akbar said:


Since EP 1 is arguable. We know that 02's ultimate goal is to "become human". Which she believes she can only do by killing all the Klaxosaurs. We also know from EP 11(Right? Maybe 12?) that during her time with Hiro, her "klaxosaur-ification" has accelerated rapidly, you can see it in her horns and fangs getting longer, plus them just saying it outright.

Additionally, after Hiro gave her the hand mirror as a gift, you can see a very clear and steady decline in her mental state, almost assuredly brought about by self loathing. You can see her shattering all the reflective surfaces in the dorm/barracks/child solider resort or whatever they live in. Additionally, you can see a SUPER clear difference in how she treats Hiro starting in EP 10 (which is after she gets the mirror).

I think she had a crush on Hiro from eps 1-9, then when she started to believe that she was running out of time to "deklaxosaur" herself (eps 10-12) she decided to try and distance herself from him emotionally, since she believed that she was running out of time to save herself, and was prepared to sacrifice Hiro to try and delay that.

I think 02 views her klaxosaur-ness the same way most cancer victims view cancer. Something that they can learn to live with for a time, but need to find treatment (killing klaxosaurs), and can even go into remission, but it will always be there, waiting for a chance to come back (we know from EP 13 that she used to be full on Oni mode,but later toned it down to essentially human. We don't know how this happened, but we saw in eps 10-12, that it certainly wasn't permanent), and ultimately, if not treated, it can be very deadly (I think 02 views a failure to become human as a fate that might as well be worse than death). I think in EP 12, 02 was willing to sacrifice Hiro to try and "enter remission" if just temporarily, or if not to "enter remission" I think she, in her frantic mental state, at least believed that she could draw closer to her goal of saving herself by sacrificing Hiro.

I might be totally off the mark, but that's the vibe I'm getting. We'll have to wait for EP 14 to know more.
Good analysis and thanks for the respectful response. The thing is that I now find her to be an unlikable character since I learned the truth. She was really the reason i become interested in this show because I felt that She genuinely cared about hiro who is a human. If they made it a way that she knows it was him since episode 1 then I would understand because it would actually means she was trying her best to make him remember but of course they can't understand each other due to hiro memory loss.


I think she still does genuinely care for him though. I'm pretty sure her memory was erased too

In fact, yeah, she totally did. She always held onto the belief that she'd be able to reunite with her first darling, not knowing she had already. Like I said, I'd personally hold reservations of her until the future, I think we're gonna see some big changes, that is unless Trigger/Clover hate themselves and success.


Apr 11, 2018 11:38 PM

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Zero Two is in the driver’s seat for 2018 Waifu of the Year.

Great episode.

Apr 12, 2018 12:30 AM

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WOW! ABSOLUTELY UNHOLY SHI- WOW!!
This might be the best episode that they might have to offer!
I'm a loss of words!
I really teared-up on the part when Hiro finally recognized Zero Two is the same girl on his childhood days! and she also teared-up as well...
10/5!!!

OMG the stats! Voters: 2155 DAMN 94.48% loved the episode!
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Apr 12, 2018 1:53 AM

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i almost drop this at epsd 11, but after seein little 02 that slightly pass my eyes in random youtube preview. i'm kinda curious then i'm glad i give them 2nd chance.

this epsd 13 really giving me fresh air from this show, also made me up their ratings from 7 to 8. hopes they can improve more in 2nd cour since the build story become great after epsd 13.

also i'm not crying, it's just sweat!
Apr 12, 2018 8:49 AM

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Oh my god red Zero Two is fucking adorable!!!!
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Apr 12, 2018 10:41 AM
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I did not expect this episode to be so emotional. It’s my favorite so far.

I made a sad AMV out of Episode 13 of Hiro and Zero two :)

Apr 12, 2018 8:35 PM

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This was hype and we all saw it coming.


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Apr 13, 2018 12:15 AM

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This episode was amazing. By far my favorite.
Apr 13, 2018 12:15 AM

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mrexillustx said:
I did not expect this episode to be so emotional. It’s my favorite so far.

I made a sad AMV out of Episode 13 of Hiro and Zero two :)



Well made AMV! Like the distortion.
Apr 13, 2018 12:50 AM

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Definitely the best episode of the series for now. I cried.
Apr 13, 2018 4:39 AM

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The best episode I've seen so far in the seasonality animes of 2018
5/5
Apr 13, 2018 8:40 AM

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Marvelous. Now i love Zero-Two even more! And i hope she can someday find happiness with Hiro.

Anyone else want a new Spinoff series... "Eo-to-chan and Hiro-kun adventures"? :D

By the way, for those who don't know, there's a very good episode 13 analisys in the link bellow. Check out if you are interested.



Apr 13, 2018 9:52 AM
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The episode was ok. Had all the things the ratings would go up. A lot of drama and the oscar-acheiving money-shot at the end. But you can kinda see how this show is going to end or what is going to happen. Probably some calm make-up in the next episode then some shockers and in the end it's either Mass Effect 3 or Eureka Seven-ish...
Apr 13, 2018 11:45 AM

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trailer for next ep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI0JBYqFYF4
I recommend to not watch it tho, bc of HEAVY spoilers.
Apr 13, 2018 4:12 PM

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WOW, just WOW episode....
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WOW..... THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING EPISODE EVER

PROTECC EO TO
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Apr 14, 2018 2:01 AM
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mrexillustx said:
I did not expect this episode to be so emotional. It’s my favorite so far.

I made a sad AMV out of Episode 13 of Hiro and Zero two :)



You know I never really got the whole AMV thing. Not just the motivation (which is kind of obvious, but I couldn't describe it without any 'hurt' "feelings"), but also how this could be even the slightest bit legal, since probably noone that does anything on youtube has any rights to do anything with content they didn't make or own...
Apr 14, 2018 10:18 AM
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I'm fairly certain in the credits, the princess kills herself in so that the prince does not see her monstrosity or be forced to kill the prince herself.

This... this... this is why Mitsuru was right.
Apr 14, 2018 2:37 PM
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I really hope the picture book story in the end isn't foreshadowing because that would be incredibly sad. I liked Zero Two's character in the beginning. Then they shifted away from her to build on the others more, and now we have this broken person who only sees herself as a monster, like in the book. She was almost unlikable and now it all makes sense. She deep down despises what she is and what has been done to her, but she is ready to go to any lengths to feel like a normal human being. I'm rooting for her and Hiro and the others. Maybe they can reform this twisted society they live in.
Apr 14, 2018 7:59 PM

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Ichigo ruined everything..
Apr 14, 2018 8:45 PM

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Ichigo ruined everything..

Yup basically the next episode.sigh.


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Apr 15, 2018 2:51 AM

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The series keeps getting better and better.


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Apr 15, 2018 4:01 PM

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Nice story.

Awe, they met in the past.
How convenient for their relationship.
Apr 15, 2018 8:48 PM

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Dude, what is this, Elfen Lied? Random kid is the only one nice to the weird girl with horns, and they spend a whole day together making her feel normal. But then they're split apart and when they meet again, they don't recognize each other somehow? How many girls have horns dude? Now, in Darling, not only does she have horns, but he names her Zero Two and starts to say he'll be her darling. So when he starts hanging out with a girl named Zero Two who has horns and calls him "darling," why the hell doesn't he recognize her? Are you kidding me? I'm still going to keep watching it, but man my faith in this show has really dropped with this one.

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If anyone has the title of the song where Hiro is feeding Zero Two the candy...that would be clutch! I love that song.
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Apr 15, 2018 9:54 PM
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Dude, what is this, Elfen Lied? Random kid is the only one nice to the weird girl with horns, and they spend a whole day together making her feel normal. But then they're split apart and when they meet again, they don't recognize each other somehow? How many girls have horns dude? Now, in Darling, not only does she have horns, but he names her Zero Two and starts to say he'll be her darling. So when he starts hanging out with a girl named Zero Two who has horns and calls him "darling," why the hell doesn't he recognize her? Are you kidding me? I'm still going to keep watching it, but man my faith in this show has really dropped with this one.

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Are you retarded? Watch the end of the episode again...
Apr 15, 2018 10:18 PM

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Are you retarded? Watch the end of the episode again...


Watch the first half of the series again.
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Children, bear arms and take back what the Adults have took from you: freedom, fun and enjoyment in exchange for projection and intimidation and manipulation.
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

This is what science has done to humanity.
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SoraSenpai said:
If anyone has the title of the song where Hiro is feeding Zero Two the candy...that would be clutch! I love that song.


We will know when the soundtrack is release.
Apr 17, 2018 10:45 AM
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it makes all senses now even why zero two has the habit to lick other people. The reason for her habit lies in the past cuz of hiro. One of the best episodes Ive ever seen.

btw. does anyone notice that zero two was the one, who actually proposed to hiro?


Did she? Because I couldn't even understand what she wanted to say. Besides why does she look so young in the flashback and yet in the present she seems older than everyone else. She couldn't even read and probably understand what the magic book said.
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EpsilonX said:
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Are you retarded? Watch the end of the episode again...


Watch the first half of the series again.


He gets his memories erased after they recapture Zero Two. Which is why he forgets abut his promise to Mitsuru as well.
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Apr 19, 2018 3:15 AM

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Holy shit this is where it gets fucking good. Already halfway through the season but it doesn't matter. It stays like this and it will redeem the show. Also I really like the fact that they forgot about each other, both of them. Unlike those usual shit where someone won't forget something very little, very minor that happened 15 years ago and is like "do you remember that one time blah blah". Anyway, what I'm saying is this is really a good episode and I like it.
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Alright now the show is winning me over, more character stuff less mechs!
Apr 21, 2018 1:11 AM

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Best episode yet.

Now I more confused about who to love more though.


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Apr 21, 2018 8:38 AM
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How? I don´t understand you said this!!! The flashback was amazing, the first meeting between Zero Two and Hiro, it was a situation that you never could imagine!!! It could be the reason because she, 002, always is so angry!!!! kekeke
Apr 21, 2018 6:34 PM

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Let's not forget how epic this episode was.


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DonTrumpolino said:
mrexillustx said:
I did not expect this episode to be so emotional. It’s my favorite so far.

I made a sad AMV out of Episode 13 of Hiro and Zero two :)



You know I never really got the whole AMV thing. Not just the motivation (which is kind of obvious, but I couldn't describe it without any 'hurt' "feelings"), but also how this could be even the slightest bit legal, since probably noone that does anything on youtube has any rights to do anything with content they didn't make or own...

it is legal under fair use law
Apr 22, 2018 5:52 AM

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Very well done backstory
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SoraSenpai said:
EpsilonX said:


Watch the first half of the series again.


He gets his memories erased after they recapture Zero Two. Which is why he forgets abut his promise to Mitsuru as well.


Wait, really? When did they say that? I think I missed it lol because that explains a lot.
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EpsilonX said:
SoraSenpai said:


He gets his memories erased after they recapture Zero Two. Which is why he forgets abut his promise to Mitsuru as well.


Wait, really? When did they say that? I think I missed it lol because that explains a lot.


Yeah it was in this and the most recent episode.
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Apr 23, 2018 9:51 AM

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Still the best episode but 15 was close enough..
Apr 24, 2018 4:33 PM

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Wow, that was enjoyable.

002 making pikachu noises is something I've needed since the exam week started. Been building up too much stress the past month.
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The past life of Zero Two is quite harsh and lonely tbh.

LOL, are you serious? "Quite harsh"? That is the understatement of the year. 02's childhood was Elfen Lied-level of horrifying!

Papa-tachi were sketchy as fuck from the beginning, but by now it is clear that their world is pure dystopia. Either the kids need to overthrow the social order, or mankind needs to be wiped out by klaxosaurs. Extinction is better than these atrocities.
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Holy shit, she was fucking red. I'm extremely pale so looks like it hurts. She looks like my aunt after she goes tanning. Still, Zero Two looks like an adorable demon child with her red skin.

I felt a little sorry for Zero Two when she was trying to get her book back from thag woman.

Eo To was so cute as a kid. She's hot now but a bitch. I prefer her as a kid. Now that I think about it I would've preferred if she retaind her oni red skin. She would still be hot.

So they did have a past together but their memories were erased.

I think I prefer Hiro's kid version... nah. I still hate him. If this only focused on 02 alone I'd probably think it would be better or replace the MC with someone who isn't such a regurgitated generic loser.
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Apr 26, 2018 6:39 PM

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First 5/5. That was amazing.
Apr 27, 2018 8:34 AM

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I didn't watch this show last season and now I'm doing a binge. This was the best episode to date and basically confirms that the adults are the real enemy here and the klaxosaurs probably will end up being the good guys, or at least they are not the children's enemy.
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OMG what have i just watched

this was so good and the ending song............
5/5
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I didn't watch this show last season and now I'm doing a binge. This was the best episode to date and basically confirms that the adults are the real enemy here and the klaxosaurs probably will end up being the good guys, or at least they are not the children's enemy.

We need klaxosaur power, now! :D
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