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Feb 21, 2018 4:53 AM

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their tactics doesn't make for me. they would win just by outnumbering Jiren. instead one by one they are losing fighters. 2 minutes left. even with special Dragon Ball time passing they could win just by working together
What if Goku uses Instant Transmission and takes Jiren out of the ring with him?
That's the easiest way to win the tournament, lmao. But can't help it, this show is already full of plot holes to begin with.

Aren't you underestimating Jiren here? You think he'd sit around and let himself be teleported out? Especially since he's already seen that tecnique? Same for attacking all at once. It'd just give him more targets. If you want to blame the writers for something, blame them for making Jiren too OP to defeat without some last minute shit power-up. Honestly I'm more upset about them not using Vegito here.
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Feb 21, 2018 8:52 AM

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Evarinya said:
Blank_X said:
What if Goku uses Instant Transmission and takes Jiren out of the ring with him?
That's the easiest way to win the tournament, lmao. But can't help it, this show is already full of plot holes to begin with.

Aren't you underestimating Jiren here? You think he'd sit around and let himself be teleported out? Especially since he's already seen that tecnique? Same for attacking all at once. It'd just give him more targets. If you want to blame the writers for something, blame them for making Jiren too OP to defeat without some last minute shit power-up. Honestly I'm more upset about them not using Vegito here.
A mere touch is enough to teleport a person no matter how strong that person is, and if you think Goku can't even do this much then you're underestimating Goku here.
Feb 21, 2018 11:43 PM

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finally goku and jiren stands...which reminds me ..where is frieze anyway
Feb 23, 2018 11:37 AM

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MCA5EY said:
Which series pulled it off better

Dragon Ball Z, where Vegeta after years of humiliation to his pride of being cast in the shadow of Kakarrot, desired more power and did atrocious act like killing innocent civilians only to sacrifice himself after accepting his pride, Kakarrot as an ally, and his love for his family


OR

Dragon Ball Super, where Vegeta loves Cabba more than his own son.. Trunks... remember.. his name is Trunks.. he's your son.. you literally just had a flashback about your son AND your newborn daughter

Wow.

You somehow took him being sorry over not being able to keep his promise with Cabba as him loving Cabba over his own son.

Your comprehension skills are worse than GT.

Feb 23, 2018 2:16 PM

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@Dragonage2ftw When you're fighting for the survival of your universe and you failed to keep your wife and children safe you naturally apologize only to your wife and an alternate universe version of you.. it's pretty common to forget about your children in Dragon Ball... just ask Gohan's dad, Piccolo

Toei and Toriyama's comprehension skills are worse than GT if they can't even think of having Vegeta showing sorry towards his family
Feb 26, 2018 1:46 PM

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MCA5EY said:
@Dragonage2ftw When you're fighting for the survival of your universe and you failed to keep your wife and children safe you naturally apologize only to your wife and an alternate universe version of you.. it's pretty common to forget about your children in Dragon Ball... just ask Gohan's dad, Piccolo

Toei and Toriyama's comprehension skills are worse than GT if they can't even think of having Vegeta showing sorry towards his family


It’s almost like Vegeta feels regret towards being unable to save his race.

Again.

Feb 26, 2018 2:14 PM

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Dragonage2ftw said:


It’s almost like Vegeta feels regret towards being unable to save his race.

Again.


I'm guessing it's similar to the regret of having children.. you just kinda dismiss their existence
Mar 3, 2018 9:51 PM

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With how Vegeta was, Jiren shouldn't even have needed to dodge or block his attacks.

Welp, 3 more episodes to go and Goku went UI, I have very high expectations for the next episode.
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Mar 9, 2018 7:51 AM
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Trash. I was expecting Vegeta to be more important. But again, Goku will solve everything...
Mar 9, 2018 5:40 PM
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Episodes are interesting but unfortunately the battle is very boring.


But there are some perfect ultra instinct theories that I can, especially from here


http://www.noemnime.com/2018/02/theory-perfect-ultra-instinct.html
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Mar 17, 2018 4:26 PM

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So they forget about Frieza or he is already dead? Now it's the final battle, I'm hyped, it's always exciting to see the Ultra Instinct in action.
May 22, 2018 2:09 AM
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The Vegeta´s pride, the best of this episode!!!
The Vegeta´s sacrifice was very predictable!!!
Goku wake up the Ultrainstintc again, but this is already becoming tiresome, very tiresome.!!!
Feb 20, 2019 7:04 AM

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DBS titles are as spoiler as DBZ's!! "Noble Pride To The End! Vegeta Falls." When will they ever learn that you're not supposed to spoil the viewers with your titles!

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!
Jun 22, 2020 3:32 PM

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LMAO Oh shit! Vegeta can't get it up.
lol at Jiren saying Vegeta is forgoing his transformation.
Jiren sends Vegeta flying.
Dat flashback. Hiromi.
Vegeta's up.
Dat black eye.
Jiren spins Vegeta.
Vegeta is falling.
Vegeta's boot gets caught in the rock. What luck.
Vegeta is up.
Final Flash!
Dat punch.
Vegeta is falling. Dem tears.
Vegeta gives his energy to Goku.
Goku is up.
Goku goess SSGSS.
Vegeta is out.
Goku attacks Jiren.
Jiren sends Goku flying.
Goku reverts back to normal.
Jiren is fucking up Goku.
Dat punch in the face.
Goku is almost out.
Jiren is going to finish Goku?
Vegeta yells Kakarot!
Dat theme! ITS TIME!
Goku gave Jiren the aborption punch!


This is it! The final battle is upon us with Freeza knocked out somewhere. lol They really had Vegeta looking like Rocky. Jiren should have been knocked out Goku before MnG kicked in. Ever since Jiren started fighting during this final match he looks weaker. Just saying.
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Feb 2, 2021 11:27 AM

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Felt really bad for Vegeta. Goku going Ultra Instinct again.
Nov 5, 2021 9:03 AM

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Yes!

Goku finally mastered Ultra Instict and rose up again!

Thanks to Vegeta's help and energy, Goku managed to store enough stamina and awakened for second time !

Let's see who will stand now!

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Dec 22, 2022 1:36 AM

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Vegeta is like a toy for Jiren.
May 12, 2023 11:49 PM

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So many F L A S H B A C K jeez like if it weren't enough to have been watched dbz and Kai recently... What a lame excuse of a freaking filler episode, yuck! 2/5.

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May 13, 2023 12:08 AM

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MCA5EY said:
Which series pulled it off better

Dragon Ball Z, where Vegeta after years of humiliation to his pride of being cast in the shadow of Kakarrot, desired more power and did atrocious act like killing innocent civilians only to sacrifice himself after accepting his pride, Kakarrot as an ally, and his love for his family


OR

Dragon Ball Super, where Vegeta loves Cabba more than his own son.. Trunks... remember.. his name is Trunks.. he's your son.. you literally just had a flashback about your son AND your newborn daughter


lmao dbs is disgrace compared to dbz
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Nov 9, 2024 7:22 AM
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That was… not very good lol, first episode I gave a 3/5 in a while. I really wish I could just forget everything they’ve built up, forget all logic and reason and just enjoy Vegeta’s last moments, or when Goku goes white and shiny. But nah, I can’t do that lol, everything in this episode was just too unbelievable to me. Why is Jiren, who has been conserving his strength the whole tournament and has shown he’s got loads of moves under his sleeves, having a regular boxing match with base form Vegeta and Goku? Normally I would chalk it up to Jiren playing with his food, much like Zamasu in his arc, but isn’t the tournament supposed to have 2 or 3 minutes left on it? How do they have time to draw the fights out like this for so long with so little time left, wouldn’t Jiren want to end things as fast as possible to save his universe? I know you could also say Jiren is tired now too, but you know he’s about to go head to head with Ultra Instinct after all this, so that can’t be it either, I really think they’ve made this guy too unbelievably strong for what this arc was, all of this would work better if they weren’t in a tournament where they can’t use the beans and there’s a very tight time limit.

So yeah, for all that I said above, that is why I didn’t really like this episode that much. Did I enjoy it? Of course, I gave it a 3/5, that’s middle of the road, not bad but not good, I can’t deny that’s it’s cool to see Goku finally pull Ultra Instinct out, or that I liked that emotional ending for Vegeta in the tournament, but it was all soured by the disbelief, I even forgot to mention that Vegeta somehow had enough energy to give to Goku to allow him to go Blue for a bit, like what even lol. But with three episodes left and Goku at long last using this new form again, maybe I can allow the kid in me to love what’s about to go down, it will at least look awesome, the idea that the Zenos are representing the viewers is becoming all too real lol.
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Nov 18, 2024 11:18 AM

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This episode had potential, showing Vegeta and Goku's bonds with the others, but it also felt so contrived. Vegeta gave Goku some energy, he got back up, and then he got knocked down again only to get back up again with Ultra Instinct. This is so boring and not interesting.

harshtruth said:
Mastering UI shouldn't even be a thing during the tournament. You really want to tell me that in less than 30 minutes he mastered a form that a god couldn't do in millions of years? Also a guy that was not even trying is now against the ropes and getting damaged by people he was literally staring away in the span of a few minutes? Vegeta barely had enough energy to stand yet alone transform into a basic super saiyan but somehow passed enough energy to Goku so that he can not only stand but transform into SSB... people defend this and call it entertaining? What the fuck is wrong with everyone?


^ This 100%
Mar 13, 1:08 AM

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I'm sorry but Goku having flashbacks to all his friends and family being all emotional, with random Freeza flashback in the middle going "You monkey", made me laugh.

Someone at TOEI studio is either a comedic genius or a complete and utter moron for including Freeza in the flashback that powered up Goku. I can't tell for sure.
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