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| ITT; Wannabe SJWs bitching about the implied sexual themes in the show, people mindlessly saying that they're going to drop a show and 'not miss it', and people actually using their brains to recognize what this show actually is. MonkeyDJasper said: Everybody is about to sit here and talk about how it’s “ tropey “ when they don’t understand every character in every series starts off as some type of trope and is fleshed out into their own person . Usually when they do a mock battle for the first time the MC actually wins and this time he wasn’t even able to fight and failed miserably so the series isn’t generic . Hitting the nail on the head, not just with the tropes, but with the fight as well. I honestly thought that when the robot collapsed that it was just them dodging in a way that that little shit head did not expect. And when they asked for a time out, I expected them to get it together and beat that little shit's ass to kingdom come. With Hiro and Ichigo failing, it sets up the rise for him when he is allowed back in 02's cockpit again. Anyone that doesn't recognize this needs to look at their favorite shows and see how the MC is after two episodes. Inugirlz said: So when does Zorome die? So much of this, I couldn't stand him at all with his Napoleon Complex and his hostile attitude towards the 'double digit' parasites. Of course, that also needs explained as to why he seems to hate the characters with double digit numbers while he has a triple digit number. If your number is lower than anothers, does that mean you're somehow better than them or have a higher 'ceiling' than the triple digit character? Lax_Caux said: Guys, Darling in the FranXX is about SEX. Yes... S E X But is not about the simple act of carnal conjunction, is about the psichoanalisis of sex. The all concept of the mechas, is psicoanalitical correct. Let's go by parts: First episode is about a concept in freudian studies about sexuality called INCOMPLETNESS; the human being is incomplete, and he always will sense incomplete. To fullfill these incompletness we have desires. The first desires we have are natural, search something to eat, some place to sleep, etc... then we feel sexually incomplete. The human being does not make sex just to reproduce, he makes it for pleasure, for fullfill his sexual desires, and mostly, TO FEEL COMPLETE. Than emerges a second concept in Freud's studies: SEX DRIVE. Manking searches for sex. Sex drive leads for another drive. LIFE DRIVE. Sex is basically a force that keeps us alive. FranXX only can effectvely work with the completude of two beings. FranXX can only operate with sex. The piloting posture of the female is purposely sexual, we are not talking about shitty fanservice, THIS IS PSICOANALYTHICAL ACCURATE! The only way to pilot the robot is being one with your partner, being one with your partner is feel complete, feel complete is making sex, make sex is literally strip your individuality, your fears, your ego and trully understand the other in the sexual mechanics. This generates LIFE. The Robot becomes ALIVE with sex. Hiro and Zero two have made the robot alive because they literelly saw each other stripped, and also they can trully understand each other, both of them are marginalized in the shows social structure, so the robot can trully work with them both. Otherwise, Hiro cannot make the robot work with Ichigo because they are not being sincere with one another, they are nothing giving themselfs completely to each other, they are making sex in the erong way. When your thoughts are in other place than your partner it will not work, it will be a bad experience. Both of them were thinking about Zero Two, one for being attracted to her, other for being jealous about her. And you all can see the same thing happening to Zorome and Miku when he says he wants to pilot another robot... he is thinking about another partner, so it will not work! This show is using ordinary anime tropes to speak about sexuallity with their audience. This show has an even great premisse than in the last episode. They will talk openly about sex to an audience that is not used to have sex being discussed, where sex is pereversion, is wrong. Anime, even ecchi anime are mostly chaste, they only put erotic images but almost never passes the second base! Here we have an anime talking about sex psychology as a normal subject. THIS SHOW IS BOLD. Unffortunatly, as we can see in this topic, many don't get it. Anime viewers are so used to shows that use sex just as a glimpse, mere erotic immagery to satisfy virgin teenagers that cannot see this show has a new approach in this subject. Remember people, the guys behind it did work on Evangelion, a show all based on pure psychoanalisis; the studio behind it is responsible for Kill la Kill, that adressed nudity as a serious way, not just fanservice. Ok, it's the second episode, it can become a circus of pure fanservice, but I think people must have an open mind about it. Episode 2 shows that the crew know what they are doing. Not was unintended. GIVE THIS SHOW A TRY! PS: Trully great Opening and an AMAZING ending! Get the heck out of here with your logical assessment of the show, all you're supposed to do is get triggered by the misogynist imagery and sexualizing of minors. Tsunagaremono said: firemagnet said: There's a difference between being a second iteration of a show, and being its spiritual successor--that is, taking up some or many of the same themes, concepts, and sense of universe. On the other hand, if you want to drop it because you think that it's "porn," that's perfectly fine. You won't be missed. So the sense of universe are actually vulgar sex metaphors and sluts? Made me laugh. Random harem title would be more deep than this. I will not miss this show either. Nor will your caveman thinking and analysis of this show. Aeonenleben said: A dumb onliner that misses the point. How surprising. You are the one being stupid, don't drag me down to your level just for educating you. The irony is, you're willingly being dragged down to 'his level' by responding to low quality bait. So if anyone is stupid, it is not him for baiting you, it is you for falling for the bait. |
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1idd0kun said: More like a Collaboration between the two and you can see symbolism from Trigger seeping in the show. And A-1 has people in their staff that are ex-Gainax employees.PolarCyrus97 said: Probably people that are new to Trigger/Gainax works/style and they don't understand it lol. This is mostly an A-1 show. Trigger is just helping out. |
| The Anime Binge Is Life -PolarCyrus97 2k17- |
| Don't know about you but this feel like a mixed bag to me: 1. The premise of NGE (a lonely boy with a sense of unfulfillment) 2. The mech design of TTGL 3. The suit design from Kill-La-Kill 4. The female "riding" posture from Code Geass |
| We're still in episode 2 out of 24 So let's wait for Hiro's development (But I agree MC is pretty bland so far) |
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darklordwendt said: Many people have probably noticed already that the parasites are pretty much stock anime characters. Ichigo shows traits of childhood friend, Gorou is the glasses guy, etc. Then Hiro is total edgy anime protagonist, no special features other than a drive to be useful pretty much. But I think this is purposefully done, considering Trigger’s tendency to subvert troups. We see that with Zero Two being a total eccentric. We don’t know how things will, but they WILL change. Also the whole city is fishy; leader called father, NERV secret council, and the fact that the parasites don’t know what a kiss is. Shit’s gonna rain down from the roof! Out of curiousity, what makes the main character edgy? The only thing I can think of is that he said the whole connection by the riders needing to be two people was pathetic(or something of that sort), but is that really enough to get put in the edgy territory? It isn't like he dresses in all black or that the world is all darkness. |
| Jaywalker. |
Kerozinn said: the mecha designs are super lame! i expected this show to be about mechs and action but instead its about oversexualized position in mechs and asses and kissing. If this is what this show really is about then i rather drop this garbage right now. The Pleb filter is working perfectly. Nice episode, although predictable. I didn't expect the kiss from Cocona though. Edit: why do people think Hiro is a pussy? he got some balls trying that mock battle? He also fought with that asshole kid. |
forexjammerJan 20, 2018 6:53 PM
Demyx_IX said: A dumb onliner that misses the point. How surprising. You are the one being stupid, don't drag me down to your level just for educating you. The irony is, you're willingly being dragged down to 'his level' by responding to low quality bait. So if anyone is stupid, it is not him for baiting you, it is you for falling for the bait.  Solid logic there. |
"Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt." - Faust I, Vers 317 |
darklordwendt said: Well, I just used the term cause I couldn’t think of the correct one. Pretty much a bland MC with a simple objective of proving he’s more than a failure. He wants to get in the Franxx with Zero two again to prove that because he does not remember. It’s just him kinda being gloomy all the time, and getting into the fight with Zorome made me see him in that light. Forgive me if my choice of words aren’t on point. Of course I’m going to keep an open mind on his character and the rest of the show, like I said things getting subverted will be inevitable........I think Ah I see, yeah I can see he is a tad gloomy. I'm not sure how unbland he'll get though, story writers like to make characters bland/average so that people watching can self insert into them so I think that's why so many MCs are similar, probably why MCs are rarely my fav. Usually the story and action drives the anime for me. |
| Jaywalker. |
Epicenter said: As for enforced gender roles, I would assume both feminists and agents of the patriarchy would have lots to complain about [...]. [...] The women are being treated as objects [...], but [...] the leader of the entire team is a female. Not only is the leader a female, but her male partner [...] doesn't do anything while his partner attempts to pair up with another man...like a total beta male. In fact, [...] all the males are either antagonist [...], betas [...], and then the mc who is useless without pink haired heroine. Yeah. This is spot on. I'd say that this is way too early in the show to even figure out whether there *is* a "preferred outlook" on gender roles implicit in the narrative. Same for the earlier comment about the psychoanalytic description of romantic and sexual relationships and coming of age. This show could turn out to be amazing or it could devolve into shitty gratuitous fanservice, but we have no way to know right now. We need more data, like, probably 5 more episodes worth of data. |
| Yet these hands will never hold anything. Thus I pray, Unlimited Waifu Works!  |
| Well, it's clear that this series attempts to at least allude to sexual themes: "kissing" being used to describe physical connections (between cities), the use of "pistil/stamen" as designated terms, pistil bending over in front of stamen, and stamen's control mechanism being connected directly to...the pistil's butt. Hell, they even show the girls saying "it's coming" with a groan. Does that warrant dropping the series? That depends on one's taste and I'm puzzled by why people care whether others are dropping this. I personally think I won't because I think all this stands for something. There's a much greater plot lurking behind: how can 002 be part-kyouryuu when kyouryuus clearly can't do the deed with humans? Why are children such under control, to the point where they have no clue what basic intimacy means? Why do kyouryuu attack human beings to begin with? Who designed this partner system and with what in mind? I can't speak for others, but I'm pretty interested in how plot goes and the silly amounts of fan service come with just about any anime anyway. Kind of interesting how Ichigo was crying after Hiro said "sorry" and muttered (I assume talking about Hiro) "what a terrible person" (or something along those lines). I'm guessing she hated not being of help to Hiro, but more importantly, she realized that she simply doesn't share the same kind of bond Hiro shares with 02. EDIT: Those of you who're crapping on Ichigo are pretty laughable. Ichigo and Gorou are partners by compatibility, not love. Hiro couldn't participate in the test with 02, so he had to partner with a girl on the team. Ichigo has the right to like Hiro and volunteer to be Hiro's partner for this once. It's not as if Ichigo is telling Gorou "hey I'm going to be Hiro's partner forever" (even though that really might be what she wants). Gorou sure is a bro, but he's not being a bro to Hiro by "letting" Ichigo partner with Hiro because it's not like he had a right to object in this instance. |
zannettJan 20, 2018 7:34 PM
Aeonenleben said: Demyx_IX said: The irony is, you're willingly being dragged down to 'his level' by responding to low quality bait. So if anyone is stupid, it is not him for baiting you, it is you for falling for the bait. Solid logic there. It is pretty solid when you get mad that someone, in your words 'posted a pointless reply'. Got increasingly agitated when he responded to your reply, by calling him a 'dumb onliner' and told him that he was being stupid and not to drag you down to his level. I'll let your snarky response to me slide as continued agitation towards the original comment you responded to and subsequent responses with. In the off chance that it isn't the case, you're just reaffirming what I've said that you're the one that's being stupid by getting pissed at the guy pointing it out. |
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| The OP was awesome! That was a pretty refreshing ending, didn't expect Ichigo to react to that extent. The overall character development and strong emphasis on being partners is a nice take on the mecha genre. Is it going to be as groundbreaking as Eva or Gundam, probably not but I honestly don't care. 9/10 |
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zannett said: Kind of interesting how Ichigo was crying after Hiro said "sorry" and muttered (I assume talking about Hiro) "what a terrible person" (or something along those lines). I'm guessing she hated not being of help to Hiro, but more importantly, she realized that she simply doesn't share the same kind of bond Hiro shares with 02.. You might be spot on about Ichigo calling Hiro terrible, it remains to be seen as to what she means by that, if he's terrible at kissing, which admittedly wouldn't make sense since she has no experience and didn't even know what kissing was until that moment, or as you alluded to with the bond between Hiro and Ichigo vs the bond between Hiro and 02. |
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| As usual i cant get to like the main characters, i dont know why it always happen to me, im ok with everyone else except those two, the mongoloid and the hoe. I bet the others characters wont get shit, like the fat guy, its always like this, all the females want the mongoloid mc for whatever reason while the actual cool characters dont get shit. And jeez the fan service is strong on this one lol. |
Demyx_IX said: It is pretty solid when you get mad that someone, in your words 'posted a pointless reply'. Got increasingly agitated when he responded to your reply, by calling him a 'dumb onliner' and told him that he was being stupid and not to drag you down to his level. I'll let your snarky response to me slide as continued agitation towards the original comment you responded to and subsequent responses with. In the off chance that it isn't the case, you're just reaffirming what I've said that you're the one that's being stupid by getting pissed at the guy pointing it out. Interesting how you actually think to be so very well informed about my emotional state of mind. I dislike people that write utterly pointless replies and i thought i would point out his hypocrisy. Thats all there is to it. The picture of someone being mad and drooling with rage is just in your head. I also dislike people like you. You clearly think very highly of yourself but your comments prove that you lack maturity. You think i am all angry and don't even doubt this rather silly assumption for a second. You are likely younger then 20 with some self-confidence issues. I guess thats why you overact it like this by playing the role of what you consider to be an intellectual. Why else would you try to school basically everyone in this thread whilst having no credibility at all? You just look silly. Please stop playing online-psychiatrist. It's rather pathetic. Since i wasted enough time with this utterly pointless off-topic banter, i'd rather not fill this thread with even more pointless posts. If you want to prove yourself so desperatly write me a comment on my profile or even better a private message. I think we wasted enough of everyones time in this thread. |
"Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt." - Faust I, Vers 317 |
| I might give this anime a 10/10 rating just because of that cockpit position. |
Demyx_IX said: zannett said: Kind of interesting how Ichigo was crying after Hiro said "sorry" and muttered (I assume talking about Hiro) "what a terrible person" (or something along those lines). I'm guessing she hated not being of help to Hiro, but more importantly, she realized that she simply doesn't share the same kind of bond Hiro shares with 02.. You might be spot on about Ichigo calling Hiro terrible, it remains to be seen as to what she means by that, if he's terrible at kissing, which admittedly wouldn't make sense since she has no experience and didn't even know what kissing was until that moment, or as you alluded to with the bond between Hiro and Ichigo vs the bond between Hiro and 02. Yeah this is definitely another loss for the "childhood friend" character. I don't think 02 was lying when she said Hiro did great as a pilot. We'll have to see just how Hiro pilots with 02, but it's quite possible that 02 and Hiro don't operate in the same manner as other pistil/stamen which is why Hiro doesn't perform well as a stamen. That might be the real kicker here: the best fighting duo in this series (Hiro and 02) may not operate in the sort of male-dominant fashion with other people. My guess is there'll be a surprise attack of some sort by kyouryuu that forces Hiro to partner with 02 again (others will get wrecked because no combat experience) next episode. They can't possibly give us this "Hiro being useless" bit forever. |
| haha MAL community, when u got cliche characters u guys complain the heck out of it. Now we have a non cliche personality character like Zero Two and ppl also hate her for her unique personality. At least she is WAYYY better than some submissive or genki heroine that is being use a lot in anime now days. I need more heroine like Zero two and CC from code geass that have their own strong personality. And also this anime have like 24 episodes so the characters have a lot of time to develop. Take my word if MAL community make an anime it will last for 5 mins since you all want the development and info dump as fast as possible Another one for those who keep complaining about sexual undertones, where have u been all this time? Popular show like Aquarion have a lot of sexual tones, and no one seems to care about it, owh wait because it's a long known franchise ppl are used to it so they forgot to brought it up. Stop being double standard already, and if the sexual part is the only thing you can see and think in the whole episode, you definitely need some help |
amc9988Jan 20, 2018 8:22 PM
| hmmm i really want to like this because the world is pretty cool to me but i can't get behind the sexual undertones yet so far it's come off more as lewd fan service than actual important plot reasoning besides the kissing with 02, i mean it's not like this hasn't been done before in other stuff like Aquarion Evol or Buddy Complex i just hope it's handled better here or ya know it could just go full on Trigger so that's fine i guess lol regardless some people might get triggered by it. OP really grew on me the past week was curious to what it would look like since the early release |
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| Damn it, another childhood friend with no chance of winning. Poor Ichigo :'( The sexual connotations are so weird to the point of becoming ridiculous. I must say, I laughed a lot. xD I don't especially like Hiro but i don't hate him either. Then we have that annoying brat, please, somebody needs to beat the shit out of him and shut his mouth! |
SkyLETVJan 20, 2018 8:26 PM
| LOL! Even the training mech has a booty control. |
| Hate Keeps me warm |
| HO BOY DO WE HAVE AN INTERNET TOUGH GUY HERE EVERYONE, WATCH WHAT YOUR SAY OR HE MIGHT GET MAD AT YOU AND ATTACK YOU NEXT. Aeonenleben said: The state of your mind is quite clear when you go after people without provocation, as seen in your first reply to the first guy, but your subsequent responses that grow increasingly hostile with each post. So no, the 'picture of someone being mad and drooling with rage' is not in my head. It is being painted by yourself with the wording of your posts.Interesting how you actually think to be so very well informed about my emotional state of mind. I dislike people that write utterly pointless replies and i thought i would point out his hypocrisy. Thats all there is to it. The picture of someone being mad and drooling with rage is just in your head. Aeonenleben said: I also dislike people like you. You clearly think very highly of yourself but your comments prove that you lack maturity. You think i am all angry and don't even doubt this rather silly assumption for a second. You are likely younger then 20 with some self-confidence issues. I guess thats why you overact it like this by playing the role of what you consider to be an intellectual. You must really dislike yourself then, because, you by far and a way have shown less maturity than I have shown. If anything, I'm the one being mature as I've yet to make this personal as you just have. And it's cute that you're trying to act like a psychologist and inaccurately describing me, I'm 28 at for the record, and myself confidence, or lack of it, has zero relevance in the topic at hand. If I were to stoop to your level and try to 'analyze' you, I'd say that you're trying to imprint your own issues onto myself in an attempt to make yourself feel better by taking it out on a stranger online. I recommend going to a psychologist to work these issues out as this, what you're doing, is not healthy. Aeonenleben said: Why else would you try to school basically everyone in this thread whilst having no credibility at all? You just look silly. Please stop playing online-psychiatrist. It's rather pathetic. Since i wasted enough time with this utterly pointless off-topic banter, i'd rather not fill this thread with even more pointless posts. If you want to prove yourself so desperatly write me a comment on my profile or even better a private message. I think we wasted enough of everyones time in this thread. I'd rather play 'online-psychiatrist' that helps someone work out whatever issues they are having, than 'online bully' that takes their anger out on just about everyone to make themselves feel better while forgetting about how bad their life is. And sorry, but you don't get to have the last word in falsely saying things about me and then pretending to be the bigger man by saying to take it to PM. You want to continue this in private? You message me. Also I'm not 'desperately' trying to prove myself, I was just pointing out how you had been baited by the original guy. And YOU got triggered by that. So if anyone is 'desperate' it'd be you. Whether you respond to me in here or in private, I don't care. It won't affect my state of mind when I go to bed or wake up in the morning to go to work. |
Demyx_IXJan 20, 2018 8:39 PM
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| Too many SJWs and hen-pecked males complaining and getting offended by everything. What a miserable sight. As someone has already mentioned on reddit, the quality of this show is astonishingly good. Can't wait to see more, it has a lot of potential.  |
firemagnet said: I like you already. You're, what, only the third or fourth person--out of some twenty-odd posters in this thread--who correctly identified what this show is actually about, other than myself and @lax_caux ? The lack of critical thinking on display by the majority of the posters here is just depressing. It must feel nice to blow yourself if you're doing it this hard. |
Leprechaun08 said: I am still wondering, did -that SLUT- Zero Two kiss all of her previous partner? I mean is the kiss necessary for the initiation or something? I mean, like she probably had more than 1000 partners right? That -dirty- lips must have had touch other guy's lips before Hiro. This has to be parody right? Has the average anime watcher fallen so far into degeneracy that the thought of any girl having any prior contact with another guy makes them screech like this monkey? |
| People should read the voice actor/actress interview more. Anyway, this is the comment from Haruka Tomatsu (Zero Two's seiyuu) 本当にいろんな表情を持ってるし、心の傷や、苦しい過去を持っている女の子なんだけど、ヒロと出会って心境の変化があったり、心の波がすごく激しいので、演じてて楽しいですね。あとフランクスに乗ると人格が変わって、ヒロより男前になるので、ヒロがヒロインみたいな感じになるんですよ(笑)。 Actually, Zero-Two is a character with many different faces. She is a girl with manyscars on her heart and a painful past. However, thanks to meeting Hiro her heart starts to change and she starts opening up. Also, her personality changes when she pilots a Franxx. She is very gallant and manly so Hiro is like the heroine. |
| I admire their dedication to make piloting a robot a metaphor for having sex. 11/10 Now i understand why it is called cockpit |
dragonshadeJan 20, 2018 11:10 PM
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 Does this anime come packed with an army of tryhards because Trigger's in the production? |
firemagnet said: Faederwulf said: This series is nonsense, the sex metaphors mean the girls who had more than one partner are effectively sluts (since the co-piloting thing seems akin to sex). Characters are unbearable, mechs look stupid, drama is dumb. Dropped.  Looks like we've hit peak 2018 already, ladies and gentlemen. If this is what passes for serious argument or opinion-postulating, then we truly are doomed. Says the guy who simply made a statement disagreeing with what I said without addressing any of the points? |
| The butt controls were fucking hilarious, that is awesome! The service in this show is quality. And it looks like the love triangle crashed and burned in one episode, make way for Zero Two! And I’m still looking forward to what the future has ahead, I’m probably looking forward to this show the most week to week (then again, I’m not watching Violet or Sins until they come on Netflix so that may be why). And the sexual symbolism in this show is strong. Tokoya said: (I laughed at how the girls moaned when they first got in lol - I really appreciated all of the ass shots in this ep too huehuehue) A man of great taste, I approve. |
| 2nd episode and ppl are dropping because of ass controls... ok then. I don't give a fuck if u hate tiddies or ass, just like how i don't give a fuck if you crossfit 3 times a day or if you're a LGBT vegan. Stop rubbing your SJW shit on us. Ya'll people hella TRIGGERd. SJWs should go back to teletubbies for all i care |
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BigBlueBashJan 21, 2018 12:41 AM
Sweanime said: It´s fun how everybody is so butt hurt by the piloting and your views on sexism. (flowers and sex) And you can not even be happy or say anything that the best character for this "sexist show" and for a long time against other show. Is a strong FEMALE lead and the main guy is a wimp. You have a cool strong girl that takes what she wants, kicks ass and dominate a guy more or less with a fun personality. Even when there are strong women you find something else to cry about. :P People need to laugh more at FICTION in life. Or you can die crying and become sad people over a fiction cartoon.  Well said! Definitely agree. |
Faederwulf said: firemagnet said: Looks like we've hit peak 2018 already, ladies and gentlemen. If this is what passes for serious argument or opinion-postulating, then we truly are doomed. Says the guy who simply made a statement disagreeing with what I said without addressing any of the points? Or you could go back a few pages and look at what I posted in response to more substantive criticism and opinion giving, like this: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1699186&show=400#msg53770264 As is, the onus here is upon you to explain precisely how you see these characters as sluts. Remember: most of the characters were never taught about sex, sexuality, or relationships in the first place. "Slut" implies that the characters are either a) conscious of infidelity or b) that term is an outside judgement made by a viewer--in this case, you. Now, as for your, uh, "argument": This series is nonsense Why? the sex metaphors mean the girls who had more than one partner are effectively sluts (since the co-piloting thing seems akin to sex). No, it doesn't. Here's why: the symbolism within this show that deals with relationships and sexuality treats the union as a completion of an individual. It takes up the position, through the parable of the Jian, that each half provides a more complete whole. In order to do this, they must accept each other mentally and emotionally, and place their trust in each other. Each time the subject has been brought up, it has been expressed in terms of mutual trust and how well the characters accept one-another. Nowhere is it suggested that siding with another partner is by any means infidelity. Moreover, it's actually encouraged for the sake of "testing," meaning that there is no negative stigma attached. Regardless, when Hiro says that he can't accept Ichigo, the way he expresses it is in mental and emotional terms, not sexual terms. Therefore, the branding of the characters as "sluts" is both a complete misreading of the themes of this story, and more properly reflects your judgement based upon how the characters have been sexualized, without any logical evidence to back it up. Characters are unbearable why? mechs look stupid why? drama is dumb It's only dumb because you refuse to look and properly understand. Reasons for why there is drama, namely that being a "parasite" is the ultimate purpose of their lives for most of the characters here, are explained within the show. It is made eminently clear that the ability to pilot and have a partner forms the core of the self-worth of almost all of the main characters we've seen in this past two episodes. |
Monsundo said: -Stray said: And now we got the typical "bratty character whose full of himself" only to get disgraced when MC gets his shit together... oh boy... the cliches are so.... bad... not that Im saying being cliche is over all bad but it depends on how its handled, and this show aint handling it very well. But he didn't, did he? The only reason the mech could even move is because the girl did it by herself, he didn't do anything... At least try and understand what I said before quoting me... this is embarrassing. |
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| Lmao, too much sexual innuendos thrown. I don't know how I really feel about the fact that it's gonna be revolving around that for the next two cours... |
T27 said: 1.) Who describes a grown man as a boy? 2.) It's clear the age group is 13-16 and short of you being alive in the 750s no one would describe that age demographic as "young adults". 3.)I'm sorry that I need to be the first person to tell you this but that is weird. 1. I didn't, but i don't describe young adults as "grown men" either but rather as boys. 2. Yep, i and pretty much anyone i know would describe someone from the age 15-25 as young adults. Even our ministry of education does this, so yeah. 3. Nah, it's ok. Keep the stick up your butt if you like it so much. I'm perfectly fine with romantic and sexual liberty for people of at least 15-16. You can whine about it as much as you want, though, that's also your liberty. Faederwulf said: This series is nonsense, the sex metaphors mean the girls who had more than one partner are effectively sluts (since the co-piloting thing seems akin to sex). Characters are unbearable, mechs look stupid, drama is dumb. Dropped. So you're saying a girl that has or had a lot of different sexual partners is a slut? Wow, way to go.... |
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