Victim of Cyberbullying Pornstar August Ames Commits Suicide After Being Accused of Being Homophobic
| Meanwhile I was doing the math- 290 videos by 23? That is a fuckton of dicks. In other news, yay for SJWs. They totally gave her a fair punishment. |
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Nyu said: Bernrika said: There is something quite hilarious about conservatives complaining about harassment, given how much you spend arguing gays are "not normal" and other awful stuff on the Internet and outside of it. Then when people point out what you do can be harmful to some LGBT, you go on about "my free speech". There is a difference between discussing a topic on a thread, and what progressives did to this woman, they harassed her. Do you also care about the thousand of LGBT harassed every day around the world, out of curiosity? Do you and people like you care that your words may hurt someone every time you spit venom toward them in various topics on mal? I find interesting that suddenly you care care about minorities and people's mental health based on what they read on the Internet. Note: I'm not defending what was done to this woman. I'm merely pointing out your hypocrisy. |
BernrikaDec 10, 2017 2:15 PM
Bernrika said: Nyu said: There is a difference between discussing a topic on a thread, and what progressives did to this woman, they harassed her. Do you also care about the thousand of LGBT harassed every day around the world, out of curiosity? Do you and people like you care that your words may hurt someone every time you spit venom toward them in various topics on mal? I find interesting that suddenly you care care about minorities and people's mental health based on what they read on the Internet. Note: I'm not defending what was done to this woman. I'm merely pointing out your hypocrisy. When people are having an intelligent and thoughtful discussion, I don't see that as venom. However, when people harass other people, I see that as wrong. I don't know why you mentioned minorities, demographics change all the time, and no one seems to care about majorities that are being dispossessed. |
| @CovfefeDrink3r I'm assuming you didn't read my original post on this thread, because if you did, you wouldn't have spouted your bs. Why would I ever excuse the people who harassed her and pushed her over the edge? Like I said before, the pro-LGBT users that attacked her aren't in any position to criticize or bully anyone else because of their standing beliefs. Whether she was homophobic or not, I never said it was an excuse for her to be harassed. In fact, no one should have to go through her ordeal because they might be homophobic, or racist, or whatever. I'm not defending her attackers, so don't pull shit out of your ass smh. |
Nyu said: Bernrika said: Do you also care about the thousand of LGBT harassed every day around the world, out of curiosity? Do you and people like you care that your words may hurt someone every time you spit venom toward them in various topics on mal? I find interesting that suddenly you care care about minorities and people's mental health based on what they read on the Internet. Note: I'm not defending what was done to this woman. I'm merely pointing out your hypocrisy. When people are having an intelligent and thoughtful discussion, I don't see that as venom. However, when people harass other people, I see that as wrong. Oh? So when you and people like you argue homosexuals are not normal, they are unnatural and all kind of nasty things here on MAL that's OK? And you are not spitting venom? Because that may cause the people who are reading you psychological harm, you know. What would you do if you find out someone's mental health was damaged because you essentially called people like him or her unnatural? It's funny how you are so suddenly concerned about people's mental health. It's almost like you are... how was the word... Virtue signalling? I don't know why you mentioned minorities, demographics change all the time, and no one seems to care about majorities that are being dispossessed. Because we were discussing LGBT, a group that has been historically abused, this is not about your victim complex. |
BernrikaDec 10, 2017 4:56 PM
Bernrika said: Nyu said: When people are having an intelligent and thoughtful discussion, I don't see that as venom. However, when people harass other people, I see that as wrong. Oh? So when you and people like you argue homosexuals are not normal, they are unnatural and all kind of nasty things here on MAL that's OK? And you are not spitting venom? Because that may cause the people who are reading you psychological harm, you know. What would you do if you find out someone's mental health was damaged because you essentially called people like him or her unnatural? It's funny how you are so suddenly concerned about people's mental health. It's almost like you are... how was the word... Virtue signalling? I don't know why you mentioned minorities, demographics change all the time, and no one seems to care about majorities that are being dispossessed. Because we were discussing LGBT, a group that has been historically abused, this is not about your victim complex. When we Sa they are unnatural, we don't mean it to be mean or venom, we mean it to be a fact, like how having 12 fingers isn't natural. We care about people mental health, but don't think its right to deny fact. |
No, you have a dislike of homosexuals and get a moral kick from calling them unnatural, no matter what are the consequences of your words. Because calling a segment of people "unnatural" is completely demoralizing and inhumane (Over and over, in many threads, across the years), but you do it anyway and hide behind "facts" despite the fact it may cause emotional pain to LGBT reading MAL. You and the other alt rights are no different from those people who bullied her. Guess what? They too could claim that her being "homophobic" is a "fact" so they had all the rights to call her that, but they still would be dicks for bulling her. |
Bernrika said: No, you have a dislike of homosexuals and get a moral kick from calling them unnatural, no matter what are the consequences of your words. Because calling a segment of people "unnatural" is completely demoralizing and inhumane (Over and over, in many threads, across the years), but you do it anyway and hide behind "facts" despite the fact it may cause emotional pain to LGBT reading MAL. You and the other alt rights are no different from those people who bullied her. Guess what? They too could claim that her being "homophobic" is a "fact" so they had all the rights to call her that, but they still would be dicks for bulling her. I don't dislike any group, and we are just stating fact, having 12 fingers isn't natural either, that doesn't mean we dislike them because they are unnatural. There is a difference between having a debate, and the harassment those people did. |
Bernrika said: No, you have a dislike of homosexuals and get a moral kick from calling them unnatura finding something not normal != hate Because calling a segment of people "unnatural" is completely demoralizing and inhumane Doesn't matter. If you have 12 fingers, you are not normal. Doesn't mean we hate you. |
Bernrika said: No, you have a dislike of homosexuals and get a moral kick from calling them unnatural, no matter what are the consequences of your words. Because calling a segment of people "unnatural" is completely demoralizing and inhumane (Over and over, in many threads, across the years), but you do it anyway and hide behind "facts" despite the fact it may cause emotional pain to LGBT reading MAL. You and the other alt rights are no different from those people who bullied her. Guess what? They too could claim that her being "homophobic" is a "fact" so they had all the rights to call her that, but they still would be dicks for bulling her. I don't know what your dispute is but first her denial alone isn't a sign of homophobia at all because there other obvious logical reasons for her denial and second being gay is unnatural so wtf are you even talking about? Is not dismissing or inhumane to gays to state a simple thing like that. Is quite obvious that being a homosexual is not the normal natural state of the human species so getting offended over that seems ludicrous. Why is a simple reality suddenly controversial with people like you is beyond logic. Is you that has the issue for deciding that such a simple reality is suddenly an evil anathema being said. Just because you decided is inhumane and demoralizing doesn't make it so. Is this similar to the stupid feminist logic of getting angry and offended when simply stated that women have less muscle power and ability related to that when it is nothing but a simple natural reality? |
MonadDec 10, 2017 6:09 PM
Monad said: Bernrika said: No, you have a dislike of homosexuals and get a moral kick from calling them unnatural, no matter what are the consequences of your words. Because calling a segment of people "unnatural" is completely demoralizing and inhumane (Over and over, in many threads, across the years), but you do it anyway and hide behind "facts" despite the fact it may cause emotional pain to LGBT reading MAL. You and the other alt rights are no different from those people who bullied her. Guess what? They too could claim that her being "homophobic" is a "fact" so they had all the rights to call her that, but they still would be dicks for bulling her. I don't know what your dispute is but first her denial alone isn't a sign of homophobia at all because there other obvious logical reasons for her denial and second being gay is unnatural so wtf are you even talking about? Is not dismissing to gays to state a simple thing like that. Is quite obvious that being a homosexual is not the normal natural state of the human species so getting offended over that seems ludicrous. Why is a simple reality suddenly controversial with people like you is beyond logic. Unnatural means not occuring in nature. It occurs in nature so it's natural. |
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traed said: Monad said: I don't know what your dispute is but first her denial alone isn't a sign of homophobia at all because there other obvious logical reasons for her denial and second being gay is unnatural so wtf are you even talking about? Is not dismissing to gays to state a simple thing like that. Is quite obvious that being a homosexual is not the normal natural state of the human species so getting offended over that seems ludicrous. Why is a simple reality suddenly controversial with people like you is beyond logic. Unnatural means not occuring in nature. It occurs in nature so it's natural. So I guess having 12 fingers is natural as well. |
traed said: Monad said: I don't know what your dispute is but first her denial alone isn't a sign of homophobia at all because there other obvious logical reasons for her denial and second being gay is unnatural so wtf are you even talking about? Is not dismissing to gays to state a simple thing like that. Is quite obvious that being a homosexual is not the normal natural state of the human species so getting offended over that seems ludicrous. Why is a simple reality suddenly controversial with people like you is beyond logic. Unnatural means not occuring in nature. It occurs in nature so it's natural. No that is not how we view the word unnatural. That is a very over-literal technical view that makes pretty much everything natural since very few things don't occur at least once in nature. From people with two heads, to cyclops people etc. When we talk about natural condition then we talk about the condition when everything works as normal. Is quite obvious that the homosexual condition is not the normal condition since if we were all homosexuals then our species will die while if we were all straight even the ones that are now homosexuals then the human species will really not be having any issues or need for them to become homosexuals. So obviously for our species, homosexuality is a condition of things not going as they should which we consider unnatural. |
Because you don't operate by logic, you want to spew "facts" based on your own feelings. Just look at this fucking conversation, you are convinced it's logical to call unnatural an entire segment of people based on your own feelings, while you claim they shouldn't get offended and this shouldn't cause them pain. They should totally be OK with it (And the other nasty things you tend to say). At the time, we have someone who killed herself for being called homophobic on the Internet. If you had any common sense you would understand being demonized for no reason is a very bad thing. Since you love "facts" so much, go read about how a lot of gay individuals struggle with self hate. Valaskjalf said: Bernrika said: No, you have a dislike of homosexuals and get a moral kick from calling them unnatura finding something not normal != hate Because calling a segment of people "unnatural" is completely demoralizing and inhumane Doesn't matter. If you have 12 fingers, you are not normal. Doesn't mean we hate you. Ah, yes, and here we have someone who refereed to homosexuals as mentally ill over and over. The alt right brigade is amazing in the way they love to play the victim while being completely nasty. |
BernrikaDec 10, 2017 6:36 PM
| @Monad And if all people were men humanity would die. |
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Of course. that is why is also unnatural for the human species to only have one gender. We are a species that needs both male and female condition. Very much related to how we need to fuck the other gender instead of our own and how homosexuality is unnatural since we developed like that were we need females and males to survive as a species. Thank you for understanding my point. Bernrika said: Because you don't operate by logic, you want spew "facts" based on your own feelings. Just look at this fucking conversation, you are convinced iit s logical to call unnatural an entire segment of people based on your own feelings, while you claim they shouldn't get offended and this shouldn't cause them pain. They should totally be OK with it (And the other nasty things you tend to say). At the time, we have someone who killed herself for being called homophobic on the Internet. If you had any common sense you would understand being demonized for no reason is a very bad thing. Since you love "facts" so much, go read about how a lot of gay individuals struggle with self hate. But is not based on my feelings at all. You are the only sentimental one here that sees it as bad because you feel like it no matter how real it is or not. the fact that you reference self-hate etc shows that your interest is about your feelings. You are taking a sentimental stance. You are also talking with a "us vs them" mentality like you are some gay defender fighting gay haters because your sentimentality has blinded you that you are fighting a war against people that aren't even shooting. To me and others simply saying that homosexuality is not the natural condition has nothing to with any war against gays and nether is nasty or anything of the matter. You just view it like that because you have lost sensible control of your sentimental condition and you can't even view the thinking we use in such statement but only your feelings and ways of deciding to view things. |
MonadDec 10, 2017 6:52 PM
Monad said: Of course. that is why is also unnatural for the human species to only have one gender. We are a species that needs both male and female condition. And maybe it needs straight and gay people. They cant have their own kids so they can take care of others. This has been theorised as why gay people persist in existing was that in the past they helped raise children. |
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Yeah, no. Look at your previous post: I don't know what your dispute is but first her denial alone isn't a sign of homophobia at all because there other obvious logical reasons The people who called her an homophobe are like you, they also claim her being an homophobe is a "fact". Who's right between you and them? They both claim to act on "facts", you know. People like you are particularly famous for hiding their feelings behind "facts", but you are the one driven the most by emotions. You are taking a sentimental stance. You may want to read the title of the discussion as well follow the discussion. I don't think you understand what the discussion is about. To me and others simply saying that homosexuality is not the natural condition has nothing But it's natural, after all it exists in nature, it's observed in dozen of animal species (This is a fact, not the stuff you spew:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals ) and it's not artificial. How else do you want to call it? There is no reason to go ranting about how a segment of people is "unnatural" when they are not unless you are driven by feelings and emotions. Who does that? |
BernrikaDec 10, 2017 7:03 PM
| @nyu @Valaskjalf. Having extra fingers is natural, it's just considered not normal. Genetically, sometimes having more fingers is considered the dominant trait while having 5 is the recessive trait. 5 is just considered normal because it's the most common trait. Like how being brown-haired is considered normal/average while red-hair is different. |
AnimeAdamOP said: @nyu @Valaskjalf. Having extra fingers is natural, it's just considered not normal. Genetically, sometimes having more fingers is considered the dominant trait while having 5 is the recessive trait. 5 is just considered normal because it's the most common trait. Like how being brown-haired is considered normal/average while red-hair is different. Having 12 fingers is like having only 1 eye, and that's what we meant it as. Anyway, don't make false equivalences, different hair colours is very different than having the right amount of fingers. |
Nyu said: AnimeAdamOP said: @nyu @Valaskjalf. Having extra fingers is natural, it's just considered not normal. Genetically, sometimes having more fingers is considered the dominant trait while having 5 is the recessive trait. 5 is just considered normal because it's the most common trait. Like how being brown-haired is considered normal/average while red-hair is different. Having 12 fingers is like having only 1 eye, and that's what we meant it as. Anyway, don't make false equivalences, different hair colours is very different than having the right amount of fingers. No, actually, it's not, 12 fingers can be a dominant trait. Just like how cleft chin or widow's peak is decided upon birth, so is 12 fingers (sometimes). You just consider it not to be normal because most people don't have 12 fingers. It's you who should pick a better example of trying to pick what is unnatural/not normal. |
AnimeAdamOP said: Nyu said: Having 12 fingers is like having only 1 eye, and that's what we meant it as. Anyway, don't make false equivalences, different hair colours is very different than having the right amount of fingers. No, actually, it's not, 12 fingers can be a dominant trait. Just like how cleft chin or widow's peak is decided upon birth, so is 12 fingers (sometimes). You just consider it not to be normal because most people don't have 12 fingers. It's you who should pick a better example of trying to pick what is unnatural/not normal. So you weren't countering my argument, just being technical. |
Nyu said: AnimeAdamOP said: No, actually, it's not, 12 fingers can be a dominant trait. Just like how cleft chin or widow's peak is decided upon birth, so is 12 fingers (sometimes). You just consider it not to be normal because most people don't have 12 fingers. It's you who should pick a better example of trying to pick what is unnatural/not normal. So you weren't countering my argument, just being technical. I'm mostly saying your unnatural/normal argument is wrong. Edit: For all we know, being bisexual could become the new natural/normal in the next 100 years. |
AnimeAdamOPDec 11, 2017 7:05 AM
Monad said: No that is not how we view the word unnatural. That is a very over-literal technical view that makes pretty much everything natural since very few things don't occur at least once in nature. From people with two heads, to cyclops people etc. When we talk about natural condition then we talk about the condition when everything works as normal. Is quite obvious that the homosexual condition is not the normal condition since if we were all homosexuals then our species will die while if we were all straight even the ones that are now homosexuals then the human species will really not be having any issues or need for them to become homosexuals. So obviously for our species, homosexuality is a condition of things not going as they should which we consider unnatural. That's not how it works at all. Something can be natural but be rarer than something else. |
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