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Apr 8, 2017 12:15 AM

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NihilLoli_Gasan said:
Doesn't being a "perv" require one having abnormal sexual interests? Most definitions of "pervert" that I've seen include descriptions of "leading someone/something away from what is considered natural or acceptable" or "a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable". With the exception of a few specific fetishes, it seems that most of the sexualized characters/objects in anime conform to sexual interests already held by the general public. Ergo, I don't think that liking a lot of fanservice/having a strong libido qualifies one as a pervert.


I think anime does tend to show fringe sexuality, but it rarely goes to places that are actually crime - like necrophilia. Remember 'pervert' is a word used to categorize a weird person as dangerous in order to control them.
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Apr 8, 2017 12:18 AM

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Are we not all pervs in our own unique way? Just because I like the oppai

Apr 8, 2017 12:37 AM

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Anonymity helps people release their inner perversion.
Apr 8, 2017 12:50 AM

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Everyone is a pervert. Some people afe more open about it and others are just in denial.
Apr 8, 2017 1:33 AM
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IJN_Musashi92 said:
Sorry I'm more Lesbian and have to agree with some pervy guys that we would want to fuck the hell out of some of them Girls and idols all night long.


Haha I admit I didn't expect this when opening this thread. You made my day IJN_Musashi92.

OT: While there are a lot of people who are against fanservice or pervs in the anime fandom there are just as many that embrace it and because of that people don't feel ashamed to be perverts.

Just as it should be.

Apr 9, 2017 5:52 AM
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You ladies aint safe either, lets not pretend the only reason you guys love Free and Yuri! on Ice is cause they're great sports shows.

I didn't like the fanservice, but to be honest, it wasn't about the sports for me either. I'm always more interested in characters and relationship dynamics than the setting, even if I really like it. And especially Yuri's and Victor's relationship was just a wonderful fluffy and heartwarming thing. XD

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On the one hand, I got to know more perverts in the community than "outside" and I really try to avoid some people.
On the other hand, there are plenty of decent, nice men in the background, but you're gonna notice the weird ones first.
Of course my male friend don't act and think that way.

And srsly, the main anime audience is between 15 and 30 y/o imo, so it's very easy to pander teenage boys and young men with fanservice.

It's as easy as pandering me with a sad or fluffy and heartwarming relationship. XD I call this emotional fanservice.
Apr 9, 2017 2:51 PM

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Maneki-Mew said:
You ladies aint safe either, lets not pretend the only reason you guys love Free and Yuri! on Ice is cause they're great sports shows.

I didn't like the fanservice, but to be honest, it wasn't about the sports for me either. I'm always more interested in characters and relationship dynamics than the setting, even if I really like it. And especially Yuri's and Victor's relationship was just a wonderful fluffy and heartwarming thing. XD

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On the one hand, I got to know more perverts in the community than "outside" and I really try to avoid some people.
On the other hand, there are plenty of decent, nice men in the background, but you're gonna notice the weird ones first.
Of course my male friend don't act and think that way.

And srsly, the main anime audience is between 15 and 30 y/o imo, so it's very easy to pander teenage boys and young men with fanservice.

It's as easy as pandering me with a sad or fluffy and heartwarming relationship. XD I call this emotional fanservice.


What's the difference between the weird and the nice men?
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Apr 9, 2017 3:29 PM
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LoneWolf said:
Perhaps it's due to a repressed society in Japan, but let's face it most anime are full of fanservice. It is difficult to say the least to find shows that are not filled with fanservice. To be into anime to some degree usually takes at least some tolerance if not straight up being into the fanservice.

I'm not gonna pretend to be above this, I'm a perv and enjoy my fair bit of fanservice now and then, but I feel like a lot of people here are in denial. Watching shows about little girls in their fetishy sailor outfits and idol dresses and shit, thats pretty pervy. You ladies aint safe either, lets not pretend the only reason you guys love Free and Yuri! on Ice is cause they're great sports shows. Especially the elitist folks that take anime way too seriously, your favorite shows likely have some weird pervy elements to them.

So yeah why do you think the anime community is full of pervs and why is the community so in denial about this?


So apparently being a guy makes me a perv? Well, excuse me for having a Y chromosome. :P
Apr 9, 2017 3:45 PM
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TheBrainintheJar said:
Maneki-Mew said:

I didn't like the fanservice, but to be honest, it wasn't about the sports for me either. I'm always more interested in characters and relationship dynamics than the setting, even if I really like it. And especially Yuri's and Victor's relationship was just a wonderful fluffy and heartwarming thing. XD

---

On the one hand, I got to know more perverts in the community than "outside" and I really try to avoid some people.
On the other hand, there are plenty of decent, nice men in the background, but you're gonna notice the weird ones first.
Of course my male friend don't act and think that way.

And srsly, the main anime audience is between 15 and 30 y/o imo, so it's very easy to pander teenage boys and young men with fanservice.

It's as easy as pandering me with a sad or fluffy and heartwarming relationship. XD I call this emotional fanservice.


What's the difference between the weird and the nice men?

They look at you and treat you as an actual human being and can behave themselves / have manners? ^^"
Apr 9, 2017 4:46 PM
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We human have desires.... and anime is one of the medium to channels it. I mean, just look at the content of a lot of animes. Also it depends on the person whether to act upon it or not.
Apr 9, 2017 4:53 PM

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BillyShears said:
They're not pervs OP, they're enlightened. They know that 2D > 3D.

I could get laid all I wanted, but girls irl can never match my waifu.

this is the best thing I've read all day
Apr 9, 2017 4:54 PM

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Maneki-Mew said:
You ladies aint safe either, lets not pretend the only reason you guys love Free and Yuri! on Ice is cause they're great sports shows.

I didn't like the fanservice, but to be honest, it wasn't about the sports for me either. I'm always more interested in characters and relationship dynamics than the setting, even if I really like it. And especially Yuri's and Victor's relationship was just a wonderful fluffy and heartwarming thing. XD

---

On the one hand, I got to know more perverts in the community than "outside" and I really try to avoid some people.
On the other hand, there are plenty of decent, nice men in the background, but you're gonna notice the weird ones first.
Of course my male friend don't act and think that way.

And srsly, the main anime audience is between 15 and 30 y/o imo, so it's very easy to pander teenage boys and young men with fanservice.

It's as easy as pandering me with a sad or fluffy and heartwarming relationship. XD I call this emotional fanservice.
Of course my male friend don't act and think that way.
HAHAHAHAHAHA good luck thinking that way.One advice to you just don't be too optimistic in coming future.
Apr 9, 2017 5:26 PM
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ultravigo said:
Maneki-Mew said:

I didn't like the fanservice, but to be honest, it wasn't about the sports for me either. I'm always more interested in characters and relationship dynamics than the setting, even if I really like it. And especially Yuri's and Victor's relationship was just a wonderful fluffy and heartwarming thing. XD

---

On the one hand, I got to know more perverts in the community than "outside" and I really try to avoid some people.
On the other hand, there are plenty of decent, nice men in the background, but you're gonna notice the weird ones first.
Of course my male friend don't act and think that way.

And srsly, the main anime audience is between 15 and 30 y/o imo, so it's very easy to pander teenage boys and young men with fanservice.

It's as easy as pandering me with a sad or fluffy and heartwarming relationship. XD I call this emotional fanservice.
Of course my male friend don't act and think that way.
HAHAHAHAHAHA good luck thinking that way.One advice to you just don't be too optimistic in coming future.

Uh, most of them have a girlfriend (one I know is gay) and they don't need to lust after every woman they see. ^^'?"
I don't think I'm too optimistic and just know some great guys, I guess. Yes, in "the community" as well and yes most of them are straight and have a girlfriend.
I also made a few bad and weird experiences, but who doesn't.
And don't worry, I tend to prefer women over guys, I think. XD
Apr 9, 2017 5:56 PM
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Most things in modern society end up sexualized in one way or another. And I'm fine with that, it is what is, I don't have to like it I just have to accept it.

And that obviously extends to anime. But what I honestly don't understand, is the borderline pedophilic content that gets shoved into most of the shows I watch (I watch a lot of moe shit).
Not only do I fail to see the appeal, I also can't grasp this obsession with painting little girls as sex toys. Is it a cultural thing? Is it because of "otaku" pandering? Do studios need to do this to stay afloat?

The sad part is that I've been exposed to it so much that I've built a certain tolerance for it. I still question it, but I'm not even phased by it. Just sad...
Apr 9, 2017 6:04 PM
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media made in a country with very little influence from Western malignancies like progressivism, feminism, identity politics, etc -> lots of unchecked male power fantasy

In theory I think that's a good thing but if male power fantasy goes unchecked too long, you start getting diminishing returns, and the fanbase starts getting pretty fetid.

(There are female perverts into anime too, sure, but it's not much different than here in the US because our media here is already unchecked female power fantasy.)
Apr 10, 2017 12:03 AM

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_Lightsbane said:
Most things in modern society end up sexualized in one way or another. And I'm fine with that, it is what is, I don't have to like it I just have to accept it.

And that obviously extends to anime. But what I honestly don't understand, is the borderline pedophilic content that gets shoved into most of the shows I watch (I watch a lot of moe shit).
Not only do I fail to see the appeal, I also can't grasp this obsession with painting little girls as sex toys. Is it a cultural thing? Is it because of "otaku" pandering? Do studios need to do this to stay afloat?

The sad part is that I've been exposed to it so much that I've built a certain tolerance for it. I still question it, but I'm not even phased by it. Just sad...

0) Note that I'm talking about "loli" level young girls. Teenage girls are well within a normal adult man's strike zone, and people who complain about them are just buying into "18 as the age of majority" propaganda. There is no magic happening in 18, but puberty exists.

1) Some viewers like anime little girls just because they're cute. Attempting to do adult stuff, like seducing your teacher for fun and profit, is cute too.
See how it works in Hanamaru Youchien, where they obviously have no chance of success.

2) Supposedly, some people really do lust after anime little girls. There is no proof they are all pedophiles, but either way, a man lusting after 2D girls isn't doing anything bad to real children, right?
And yes, these people seem to provide some measure of profit.

3) The contrast between a little girl and adult behavior, like seducing men or killing people, can be easily played for comedy or drama. It's no wonder authors do just that.
Apr 10, 2017 12:28 AM

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Well watching a lot of Ecchi and hentai shows fucks up the mind or brain chemistry. Projecting women as some object and not as a human being. They think that it's a standard behavior, action/reaction in human interaction. It's similar to porn. Maybe that's why there are anti-ecchi groups because they're fully aware or they feel its bad for them in real life or plot-wise.
Apr 10, 2017 12:30 AM

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wont someone please think of the children !!
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Because people are perverts.

I'm a pervert, you are a pervert, everyone is a pervert
I bet your parents where perverts too at some point
If you're an anime fan, I'll immediately assume you're a pervert, don't even try to hide it. Perverts are people whose sexual behavior is considered abnormal, fapping to drawings is pretty abnormal. Is it wrong? Hell no, all people have weird fetishes. I'd rather have people fap to loli's than actual children. We anime fans are just more open about our abnormal sexual behavior because we are a community, I bet none of you go tell your non-anime fan friends about this great hentai you just watched :p

People just like sexual content, and nothing wrong with that. I love myself some fan service, if I smell manservice in an anime there's a chance of 100% I'll watch it. YOI is indeed a perfect example by OP, I think it's a great show with a good story and amazing ost but it would never be the same without a hot naked Russian man in the onsen and it probably wouldn't have reached my #1 spot if it didn't include some nice sappy yaoi moments
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Animu is not animu without the ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). Animu is all about the ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
And you can't not ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) when watchin animu. So animu fans all ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). Animu also ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) cuz animu fans ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). It's all about the ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). Simple, right?


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I'm pretty sure that all males are pervert, but I just feel like that many of the female anime fans are more perverted than females that don't watch anime. It's just my feeling though, no offense.
Apr 10, 2017 1:14 AM

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Maneki-Mew said:
TheBrainintheJar said:


What's the difference between the weird and the nice men?

They look at you and treat you as an actual human being and can behave themselves / have manners? ^^"


That's very vague and sometimes unclear. I know a lot of women who fell in love with guys who treated them as means instead of ends. It's not a 'women likes jerks' things, but rather I'm trying to understand how you decide who's who in such a chaotic world.
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Apr 10, 2017 1:33 AM

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WannabeMellow said:
People are in denial about it because they want to pretend they don't watch shows like Kill La Kill and Re: Zero for "waifus" and pervy scenes and say they watch it for something else, hence the whole "I watch it for the plot" joke. It's just a general denial most people have about sexual stuff, not just anime. No would admit that they watch porn if you asked them even though they probably do.

In my opinion, it doesn't really matter, let people be delusional about their motives to watch shows. it doesn't affect me.

>bashes Kill la Kill because of nudity
>has a Redline avatar

Aside from completely missing the point of Kill la Kill, where you sleeping when bimbos rubbed their bodies all over that shiny car for no other reason than Tits&Cars? Or in every scene with Sonoshee? :^)
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Apr 10, 2017 1:43 AM

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The world is full of pervs, anime just shows it more openly than most other mediums.
Apr 10, 2017 2:35 AM

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SolidWoIf said:
wont someone please think of the children !!

People who say these words tend to forget what it's like to be a child. No, girls' breasts or panties don't hurt you. But characters' suffering and horror do hurt.
Yet the ratings and censorship and warnings are all about sexy things, not scary things. It's as if they put ratings to advertise to adults!

IcecreamDrew said:
Well watching a lot of Ecchi and hentai shows fucks up the mind or brain chemistry. Projecting women as some object and not as a human being. They think that it's a standard behavior, action/reaction in human interaction. It's similar to porn. Maybe that's why there are anti-ecchi groups because they're fully aware or they feel its bad for them in real life or plot-wise.

1) In short, all of your statements are not proven enough.
I prefer the "substitution" model of entertainment versus the "propaganda" one.

2) Anything that helps men deal with alien horror that is a woman's mind is a good thing. [/joke]
Seriously, it's hard to make sense of the way women think, and they expect us to understand them without ever being told. To make things worse, they are all different, so any understanding of one woman cannot be generalized to all others.
No, just banning exploitative media isn't going to make things better!
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