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Jul 4, 2016 7:22 PM
#801
BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it. I'm not a big fan of CG but I don't outright hate it, especially if the anime itself is good. I'm not really impressed so far but I'll give it another episode or two before I consider dropping. This anime was made specifically for those who are either fans of the series or have watched the recent movie trilogy. I have a hard time expecting a newcomer to find this anime appealing or satisfying as Berserk, as a whole, is a series that has tons of substance. This series by itself will not do it justice. |
Jul 4, 2016 7:25 PM
#802
Fiji said: CGI or what not, will be watching this for Schierke. >.< I guess everybody really hates CGI eh? Y'know, there are complaints about practically everything else about this episode that don't badmouth the CGI itself. BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it. I'm not a big fan of CG but I don't outright hate it, especially if the anime itself is good. I'm not really impressed so far but I'll give it another episode or two before I consider dropping. I think you're going to be rather unimpressed if you don't have any background knowledge of the story while watching this. The thing about the Black Swordsman arc is that Guts is a dick, it really is an over-the-top gore and action fest without much substance to it - but that leads into the Golden Age arc, which is a multi-volume flashback that explains Guts' origin and how he became the dick that he is now, so you have a bit more context beyond "Edgy McEdgelord appealing to the legion of emo kids". The Conviction arc (which this season will also show) is about Guts still being a dick, but slowly being less of one as he comes to some realizations through his travels. The problem is it looks like this anime is mixing the Black Swordsman arc with the Conviction arc, so without the context of the Golden Age arc you're probably going to feel like this is "Edgy McEdgelord appealing to the legion of emo kids, but getting better through the Power of Friendship". |
Jul 4, 2016 7:29 PM
#803
Duncaccino said: BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it. I'm not a big fan of CG but I don't outright hate it, especially if the anime itself is good. I'm not really impressed so far but I'll give it another episode or two before I consider dropping. This anime was made specifically for those who are either fans of the series or have watched the recent movie trilogy. I have a hard time expecting a newcomer to find this anime appealing or satisfying as Berserk, as a whole, is a series that has tons of substance. This series by itself will not do it justice. MysteriousBanana said: Fiji said: CGI or what not, will be watching this for Schierke. >.< I guess everybody really hates CGI eh? Y'know, there are complaints about practically everything else about this episode that don't badmouth the CGI itself. BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it. I'm not a big fan of CG but I don't outright hate it, especially if the anime itself is good. I'm not really impressed so far but I'll give it another episode or two before I consider dropping. I think you're going to be rather unimpressed if you don't have any background knowledge of the story while watching this. The thing about the Black Swordsman arc is that Guts is a dick, it really is an over-the-top gore and action fest without much substance to it - but that leads into the Golden Age arc, which is a multi-volume flashback that explains Guts' origin and how he became the dick that he is now, so you have a bit more context beyond "Edgy McEdgelord appealing to the legion of emo kids". The Conviction arc (which this season will also show) is about Guts still being a dick, but slowly being less of one as he comes to some realizations through his travels. The problem is it looks like this anime is mixing the Black Swordsman arc with the Conviction arc, so without the context of the Golden Age arc you're probably going to feel like this is "Edgy McEdgelord appealing to the legion of emo kids, but getting better through the Power of Friendship". Hmmm thanks for the feedback. You've piqued my interest so I might go back and watch the original Berserk series. |
Jul 4, 2016 7:42 PM
#804
BrianMX34 said: You've piqued my interest so I might go back and watch the original Berserk series. You should be fine watching either the recent trilogy or the 1997 anime which is quite good iteration of the Golden Age arc (just pretend that the opening theme song never existed in the first place) |
Jul 4, 2016 11:29 PM
#805
LMAO this is why I'm sticking to the manga |
Jul 5, 2016 12:21 AM
#806
gregoriozubiri said: xull said: daAmazinFatB0y said: xull said: daAmazinFatB0y said: xull said: Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this. You may get confused though since it is a sequel. I highly recomend you watch the original anime first, skip the movies as there not needed. This was a sequel? Oh, I'll watch the first show. Thanks. Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before. Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show. Yes, the manga begins like this new serie and then he "remember his past" which is this old serie that people are telling you to watch. It's worth watching, really dark serie. So do you recommend the movies or the show? On_the_Lam said: xull said: Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this. How the fuck can you know what's going on and understand the characters' behavior and motivations when you don't know their backstories... Chill I thought this was a new series, but some guys here told me it was not! |
Jul 5, 2016 12:25 AM
#807
ziggy_Z said: xull said: daAmazinFatB0y said: xull said: daAmazinFatB0y said: xull said: Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this. You may get confused though since it is a sequel. I highly recomend you watch the original anime first, skip the movies as there not needed. This was a sequel? Oh, I'll watch the first show. Thanks. Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before. Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show. How come you didn't continue reading the manga I don't know lol, I forgot to maybe |
Jul 5, 2016 1:01 AM
#808
| I've seen that some people are pissed that the Lost Children Arc has been cut from the anime. I've been binge-reading the manga and just finished volume 15, and if you really thought they were going to animate that shit, you're crazy. I've been pretty okay with the gore in the manga, but the last few chapters of the volume are gruesome, especially the Misty Valley (2) chapter. Here's some images of the "War Games" to prove my point. Would an anime company really want to animate this? No. No they wouldn't. I mean, there's gore, and then there's mutilated kids. You have to draw a line at that. I agree that the animation is pretty shitty and that weird sword noise is off-putting, but I was able to get through Ajin's shitty animation. I can get through this. |
Jul 5, 2016 1:05 AM
#809
| Really loved it! Even if the CGI sucked at many points, the great thing is that it's still faithful to the manga! Hope they also retell parts from "The guardian angel of desire" story. |
Jul 5, 2016 2:20 AM
#811
jaw1811 said: I've seen that some people are pissed that the Lost Children Arc has been cut from the anime. I've been binge-reading the manga and just finished volume 15, and if you really thought they were going to animate that shit, you're crazy. I've been pretty okay with the gore in the manga, but the last few chapters of the volume are gruesome, especially the Misty Valley (2) chapter. Here's some images of the "War Games" to prove my point. Would an anime company really want to animate this? No. No they wouldn't. I mean, there's gore, and then there's mutilated kids. You have to draw a line at that. I agree that the animation is pretty shitty and that weird sword noise is off-putting, but I was able to get through Ajin's shitty animation. I can get through this. An animation studio would go that far...just watch hellsing: ultimate |
Jul 5, 2016 2:26 AM
#812
| Non-manga reader and original series watcher here, and frankly I thought this was awesome. CG was a bit derpy, yeah, but I think that helps with the more uncanny-valley parts of the series, and the art and direction was pretty cool. The story is really promising and I thought they nailed Gutts' character with minimal in-episode exposition, which was neat. Honestly I'm just excited to finally see the continuation of the story. (And regarding the animation, it's not as if the original series looked that great either. :I Even for the time period.) |
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Jul 5, 2016 2:40 AM
#813
jaw1811 said: I've seen that some people are pissed that the Lost Children Arc has been cut from the anime. I've been binge-reading the manga and just finished volume 15, and if you really thought they were going to animate that shit, you're crazy. I've been pretty okay with the gore in the manga, but the last few chapters of the volume are gruesome, especially the Misty Valley (2) chapter. Here's some images of the "War Games" to prove my point. Would an anime company really want to animate this? No. No they wouldn't. I mean, there's gore, and then there's mutilated kids. You have to draw a line at that. I agree that the animation is pretty shitty and that weird sword noise is off-putting, but I was able to get through Ajin's shitty animation. I can get through this. I don't see anything wrong with those manga panels... |
Jul 5, 2016 2:45 AM
#814
xull said: gregoriozubiri said: xull said: daAmazinFatB0y said: xull said: daAmazinFatB0y said: xull said: Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this. You may get confused though since it is a sequel. I highly recomend you watch the original anime first, skip the movies as there not needed. This was a sequel? Oh, I'll watch the first show. Thanks. Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before. Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show. Yes, the manga begins like this new serie and then he "remember his past" which is this old serie that people are telling you to watch. It's worth watching, really dark serie. So do you recommend the movies or the show? If you can stand shitty unneeded CGI and shit, almost non-existent music (from a few scenes I've seen on youtube, at least), then watch the films, since I've heard it's got better closure. They're also quicker to finish. If you can stand 90s animation but want more fleshed out characters and better pace and incredible music, then watch the original. I've personally only watched the 1997 version. Neither are perfect, 100% loyal to the source material, but they do the job I guess. HawkInAJazzyHat said: Non-manga reader and original series watcher here, and frankly I thought this was awesome. CG was a bit derpy, yeah, but I think that helps with the more uncanny-valley parts of the series, and the art and direction was pretty cool. The story is really promising and I thought they nailed Gutts' character with minimal in-episode exposition, which was neat. Honestly I'm just excited to finally see the continuation of the story. (And regarding the animation, it's not as if the original series looked that great either. :I Even for the time period.) The original series' animation can be justified by the fact that it's almost 20 years old. There's no excuse for this Berserk to use CGI. If they didn't have a proper budget, then why even bother adapting it at all? I have only read a few chapters from the manga myself, but it's apparent that this series does a fucking horrible job in almost everything. Not only does it feel rushed/confusing, but it's unintentionally funny and ridiculous as well. |
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Jul 5, 2016 3:07 AM
#815
Benevolance said: On_the_Lam said: RealCW said: I just, this weekend, found about Madhouse's treatment of reviving HunterxHunter in 2011. Maybe in a couple years when Berserk is actually done, it'll get that same treatment. If any anime is deserving of it, it's Berserk. Just follow the comic, page 1 to the end. Simple, no? Considering the fact that Madhouse is one of the few anime studios left to take big risks, I seriously don't understand why they haven't adapted Berserk yet. And it's not like you need to take risks for something like Berserk either... RIGHT!? Making a good Berserk anime is not a risk. If they adapt the story correctly with good animation it's like a GUARENTEED success... Berserk is like the greatest manga ever An OVA series would be preferred. Better animation, less censoring and most likely more effort put to it. COME ON, MADHOUSE. |
Jul 5, 2016 3:07 AM
#816
xull said: gregoriozubiri said: xull said: daAmazinFatB0y said: xull said: daAmazinFatB0y said: xull said: Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this. You may get confused though since it is a sequel. I highly recomend you watch the original anime first, skip the movies as there not needed. This was a sequel? Oh, I'll watch the first show. Thanks. Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before. Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show. Yes, the manga begins like this new serie and then he "remember his past" which is this old serie that people are telling you to watch. It's worth watching, really dark serie. So do you recommend the movies or the show? Well, i recommend you the series, but the movies are enough to understand the situation. Again i would say the serie. |
Jul 5, 2016 4:12 AM
#817
| All of those talking about taking risks and other animation studios have to open their small minds and realise that in Japan BERSERK IS NOT POPULAR so it will never receive the funds that shows like attack on Titan ect so they are doing what they can with what they have. Obviously I would prefer straight up 2d but I'm not gonna hate the show based on ten minutes and a little cgi. |
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Jul 5, 2016 4:52 AM
#818
| This animation gave me eye cancer -.- Well it is fine I can still read the manga.... Ah wait... I forgot he releases 1 chapter every 3 months -.- |
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Jul 5, 2016 5:12 AM
#819
Smooki said: With eye cancer you won't be able to see.This animation gave me eye cancer -.- Well it is fine I can still read the manga.... Ah wait... I forgot he releases 1 chapter every 3 months -.- |
Jul 5, 2016 5:14 AM
#820
johnyjohny said: Smooki said: With eye cancer you won't be able to see.This animation gave me eye cancer -.- Well it is fine I can still read the manga.... Ah wait... I forgot he releases 1 chapter every 3 months -.- I guess ^^ But I am afraid that I will still notice that they mix arcs and jump over some story points.... |
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Jul 5, 2016 5:15 AM
#821
johnyjohny said: Well its safe to assume his eyesight is forever lost nowSmooki said: With eye cancer you won't be able to see.This animation gave me eye cancer -.- Well it is fine I can still read the manga.... Ah wait... I forgot he releases 1 chapter every 3 months -.- |
Jul 5, 2016 6:06 AM
#822
BrianMX34 said: From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it. Wow, you couldn't be more wrong in your first impression, at least in regards to what Berserk is supposed to be. If you're thinking this some sort of Resident Evil idiocy that's just gore without purpose, I can reiterate enough that in actuality, it's a total 180 of that. Berserk is probably the best example of gore used to enhance storytelling and tone. It wouldn't hold the same weight without that level of intensity. It's not there just to have it. It's a very, very dark story and it knows that. Gotta recommend the manga to you. |
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Jul 5, 2016 6:28 AM
#823
BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it.. Hence you should read the manga. |
Jul 5, 2016 6:37 AM
#824
ziggy_Z said: BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it.. Hence you should read the manga. Not everyone wants to go read the manga for every anime they watch. It looked interesting so I decided to give it a try, I'm not that curious or invested enough to go catch up on an entire manga. If this adaptation is poor, which the consensus seems to think, then I'll just move on to something else. |
Jul 5, 2016 6:49 AM
#825
| Overall, really bad direction. Bad pacing, inconsistent art direction, confused musical direction. I'm still watching all episodes of this because it's Berserk, because I need something else to despise about Berserk, because I've got a bit of free time and there isn't anything else in the anime lists I'd like to watch. It's still bad though... wonder how far off it's going to fall. Now that's an exciting thing to look forward to. |
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Jul 5, 2016 7:41 AM
#826
Jul 5, 2016 10:06 AM
#827
| Fuck. My monologue got eaten by my phone. An hour down the toilet. The music is garbage. Watch series 1, and know that Hirasawa was what Miura listened to while creating Berserk. That's why it fit so well, even into the movies over decade later. Berserk is not "slow," nor does it suffer from pacing issues. It's deliberate. Guts isn't particularly sharp, but he is perceptive and introspective. This music does not reflect that. this could be good, but they'll need to let the characters breathe instead making it a formulaic action title. That's not what Berserk is, in the big picture. |
Jul 5, 2016 10:07 AM
#828
gregoriozubiri said: I think this TH is to talk about this chapter, you can't say "The serie is going to be garbage" becouse you don't know! people, you just saw the first episode dont say this "berserk is never going to have a good adaptation" becouse maybe this will be a good one, we still don't know. I agree with most of you that the CGI is kind unconfortable for us but it can get better, WE DON'T KNOW. I recommend you people still watching the serie until at least chapter 3 or 4 and then i will hear every "This is garbage" or "berserk is never going to be good as an anime" and stuff. Thanks for reading. ......This is one of those time...where you know...you just know. This is a horrible adaption and it was VERY clear since this episode aired, no, since it was announced what studio was takin it on. Its a shit studio eith shit cast. The entire episode was just a bunch o random scenes pieced together along with that disgusting cgi. theo oriinal series aired in 1997 and right off the bat, you could tell work had been put into, REAL work and that you were in for something amazing. What does this tell me? That I'm in for a headache and some sickness. Thats not good for my health and many others agree. watch once its finished coz its score is gonna stay in the 6's if not 5's. |
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Jul 5, 2016 10:15 AM
#829
BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it. I'm not a big fan of CG but I don't outright hate it, especially if the anime itself is good. I'm not really impressed so far but I'll give it another episode or two before I consider dropping. I agree, its disgusting. Watch the original 1997 series and then read the manga from the beginning. The anime phenomenal and the manga ia apparently even better (I haven't read it). Your not gonna get gore with no sense or reason with it. Your going to get a story with diverse characters with major depth to em. |
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Jul 5, 2016 10:26 AM
#830
daAmazinFatB0y said: gregoriozubiri said: I think this TH is to talk about this chapter, you can't say "The serie is going to be garbage" becouse you don't know! people, you just saw the first episode dont say this "berserk is never going to have a good adaptation" becouse maybe this will be a good one, we still don't know. I agree with most of you that the CGI is kind unconfortable for us but it can get better, WE DON'T KNOW. I recommend you people still watching the serie until at least chapter 3 or 4 and then i will hear every "This is garbage" or "berserk is never going to be good as an anime" and stuff. Thanks for reading. ......This is one of those time...where you know...you just know. This is a horrible adaption and it was VERY clear since this episode aired, no, since it was announced what studio was takin it on. Its a shit studio eith shit cast. The entire episode was just a bunch o random scenes pieced together along with that disgusting cgi. theo oriinal series aired in 1997 and right off the bat, you could tell work had been put into, REAL work and that you were in for something amazing. What does this tell me? That I'm in for a headache and some sickness. Thats good for my health and many others agree. watch once its finished coz its score is gonna stay in the 6's if not 5's. Oh gad i just discover that Millepensee was the studio making Bersek, i mean, why? why this studio!? If someone dont know the studio here you have it http://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1237/Millepensee |
Jul 5, 2016 10:44 AM
#831
| It's kind of funny to see so many seems to be surprised it looks like trash. I thought it was obvious from the very first pv... |
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Jul 5, 2016 11:16 AM
#832
| I liked it. I know it was bad... and I still enjoyed it. That's how much I love Berserk. I'll take Guts killing things in almost any animated form. I had fun watching it like I do watching a MST3K episode. Breath and just relax. Tongue in cheek at all times. Had no clue what kind of company Millepensee was or what they did until I started reading some of these posts. Wow! Hahaha, why them?! Either they are reeeeally looking to branch out creatively with their material and try something different or Miura owed someone a favor. Or perhaps he lost a bet. Then again, who the %$^& is GEMBA? What have they done? Nothing! ROFL. How did this happen? This is going to be a week to week eye gouging and it's going to take a lot of beer but I will get through it. |
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Jul 5, 2016 12:33 PM
#833
BrianMX34 said: ziggy_Z said: BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it.. Hence you should read the manga. Not everyone wants to go read the manga for every anime they watch. It looked interesting so I decided to give it a try, I'm not that curious or invested enough to go catch up on an entire manga. If this adaptation is poor, which the consensus seems to think, then I'll just move on to something else. I think the important point should remain: Don't let a bad adaptation set your perception on the series as a whole. Whether you decide to read the manga or not. |
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Jul 5, 2016 12:35 PM
#834
Virjunior said: Fuck. My monologue got eaten by my phone. An hour down the toilet. The music is garbage. Watch series 1, and know that Hirasawa was what Miura listened to while creating Berserk. That's why it fit so well, even into the movies over decade later. Berserk is not "slow," nor does it suffer from pacing issues. It's deliberate. Guts isn't particularly sharp, but he is perceptive and introspective. This music does not reflect that. this could be good, but they'll need to let the characters breathe instead making it a formulaic action title. That's not what Berserk is, in the big picture. Guts is sharp, astute and quick-witted. He's no social butterfly, and definitely introverted, but you cannot survive what he has and not be sharp and perceptive. |
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Jul 5, 2016 12:37 PM
#835
RealCW said: BrianMX34 said: ziggy_Z said: BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it.. Hence you should read the manga. Not everyone wants to go read the manga for every anime they watch. It looked interesting so I decided to give it a try, I'm not that curious or invested enough to go catch up on an entire manga. If this adaptation is poor, which the consensus seems to think, then I'll just move on to something else. I think the important point should remain: Don't let a bad adaptation set your perception on the series as a whole. Whether you decide to read the manga or not. Oh of course. I'm not saying Bersek as a series is bad. My judgement, so far, is only on this adaption in particular. I've heard enough about the original and the manga to know they're probably good. |
Jul 5, 2016 1:45 PM
#836
mickyw33 said: I liked it. I know it was bad... and I still enjoyed it. That's how much I love Berserk. I'll take Guts killing things in almost any animated form. I had fun watching it like I do watching a MST3K episode. Breath and just relax. Tongue in cheek at all times. Had no clue what kind of company Millepensee was or what they did until I started reading some of these posts. Wow! Hahaha, why them?! Either they are reeeeally looking to branch out creatively with their material and try something different or Miura owed someone a favor. Or perhaps he lost a bet. Then again, who the %$^& is GEMBA? What have they done? Nothing! ROFL. How did this happen? This is going to be a week to week eye gouging and it's going to take a lot of beer but I will get through it. I'm right there with you. I liked this episode even with all it's flaws. Must just be because I have wanted more for so long |
Jul 5, 2016 3:16 PM
#837
| Personally speaking, while watching Guts kill shit is nice that is definitely not the main selling point to me. It's the storytelling and characterization that's put into these battles that pushes the 97 anime and manga over the top. Also, the manga does an incredible job of showing Guts just come unhinged at certain points, I guess to a point this episode tried to show that but I kind of doubt it's effectiveness. |
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Jul 5, 2016 4:24 PM
#838
| There are many mixed feelings about the show just look at the stats, I can't wait to watch it myself. |
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Jul 5, 2016 5:54 PM
#839
| After the previews my fears have become true, I was hoping to be wrong. I liked the art style, the hatching on the models was a conscious effort to adapt Miura's style... And that's about it. If you're going CGI and don't have fluid animation, why bother then?? We're in the era of 60 fps, anything that remotely resembles video game frameskipping will be a letdown. I don't get why Madhouse or WIT didn't get their hands on this series before (as in before the movies), I'd certainly trust madhouse or allow Wit studio to at least give it a shot more than any CG studio. Also it seems I'm the only one who thinks the music is mostly unfitting for this series. I liked Gut's and Puck's seiyuu though. Looks like nothing will fill my GoT craving for the rest of the year. |
kchorrex2012Jul 5, 2016 6:57 PM
Jul 5, 2016 7:47 PM
#840
kchorrex2012 said: After the previews my fears have become true, I was hoping to be wrong. I liked the art style, the hatching on the models was a conscious effort to adapt Miura's style... And that's about it. If you're going CGI and don't have fluid animation, why bother then?? We're in the era of 60 fps, anything that remotely resembles video game frameskipping will be a letdown. I don't get why Madhouse or WIT didn't get their hands on this series before (as in before the movies), I'd certainly trust madhouse or allow Wit studio to at least give it a shot more than any CG studio. Also it seems I'm the only one who thinks the music is mostly unfitting for this series. I liked Gut's and Puck's seiyuu though. Looks like nothing will fill my GoT craving for the rest of the year. An adaptation from Wit Studio and Hiroyuki Sawano (this guy works alot with this studio) collaborating with Susumu for the soundtrack would be pretty sweet, but oh well, that's just a vague dream. |
Jul 5, 2016 8:08 PM
#841
| Well the cgi is kinda meh, but cutting the two first arcs is a good thing imo. They don't contribute anything for the plot going forward. And if you think as a sequel from the movies, you have all the background you need for the rest of the show, hell the preview for episode 2 already had the holy knights, so the plot can move forward with relevant plot. |
Jul 5, 2016 8:17 PM
#842
| yeah, the CGI was bad like everyone here has already said and we already knew. but even beyond that the episode was pretty slow and uninteresting. I'm not a die-hard Berserk fan, I've only read some of the manga and I only know the Golden Age, but its hard for me to get into this series with all the shitty anime adaptions of it when I usually prefer to watch anime over reading manga (I know, I'm such a pleb) I don't know if I'll continue watching. |
Jul 5, 2016 10:01 PM
#843
SaYOYaS said: Die CG, it's ugly and really awkward to watch :( You'd rather watch 2-dimensional drawings that are jerky, low detail and change proportions every scene? Uh, nope. I'll take consistency, accuracy, fluidity and detail any day. CG in this is fine, it looks WAY better than almost everything else this cour. Haven't read the manga, but even if I had, guess what, this isn't the manga. It doesn't have to follow it. In fact it's better if it doesn't, I'd rather have more story than just seeing what I'd already read again. Pretty dumb to hate on this. It's one of the best shows of the season and not by a little. |
Jul 6, 2016 12:32 AM
#844
| I loved the first half of the OP. There were alot of great 2D artwork in there. Every Golden age screenshot in that OP moved at 30 fps and it was beautiful. But then its like they realized it cost too much money halfway through the OP and switched to crappy CGI instead. As if they fired the old team and switched to this CGI stuff. Disappointing. |
Jul 6, 2016 1:05 AM
#845
| I was really hyped to see more arcs of berserk animated, but when they rushed in one chapter to the events of the conviction arc... Well... I was disappointed in a certain way. And the animation... It's a matter of taste, but, despite I liked this kind of animation in Sidonia no Kishi and Ajin, here it felt strange. |
Jul 6, 2016 1:34 AM
#846
BrianMX34 said: ziggy_Z said: BrianMX34 said: I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk. From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it.. Hence you should read the manga. Not everyone wants to go read the manga for every anime they watch. It looked interesting so I decided to give it a try, I'm not that curious or invested enough to go catch up on an entire manga. If this adaptation is poor, which the consensus seems to think, then I'll just move on to something else. Why people ate telling you to read manga isn't just because it's a "better Berserk." It's because the manga's been running for for 27 years, and STILL gets referenced and talked about. It's a damned masterpiece. THAT'S why you should read it. The reason the original was made was basically because it was a great series, but so dark, it could only be published in an "adult" magazine. Point being, you're judging interest based on the new show, when you may skip it altogether, and just make time for one of the most dense and beautifully drawn/written manga ever made. |
Jul 6, 2016 1:50 AM
#847
| While the art/CGI is certainly underwhelming and the story seems to borrow bits from several arcs, it's still Berserk. The source material is so good that some of the goodness still shines through even in this botched adaptation. |
Jul 6, 2016 2:14 AM
#848
Jul 6, 2016 3:50 AM
#849
| The CGI... is killing me... why can't it be a normal anime like any other T^T |
Jul 6, 2016 5:16 AM
#850
gregoriozubiri said: Oh gad i just discover that Millepensee was the studio making Bersek, i mean, why? why this studio!? If someone dont know the studio here you have it http://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1237/Millepensee ... How this studio ended up doing a Berserk adaptation is beyond my comprehension. |
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