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Mar 8, 2016 4:39 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Shiraishi continues being best girl!

I can understand why Yamada didn't notice that rubber lol
Mar 8, 2016 4:48 PM
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Meh this chapter was a bore, barely anything happened although I'm glad that Shiraishi is happy with what she has right now.
Mar 8, 2016 8:12 PM
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I really like the cover for this chapter. Maybe, the mangaka should work on a fantasy story next. Although, I don't mind reading another school-life manga.

I've always liked Shiraishi since the early chapters of this manga. Even though I like Nene more, I still like Shiraishi. But, lately I couldn't help but think that her character is too good to be true. I mean, in the past, she just seems like a cool and kind, but also cute socially awkward girl that really loves studying. Her "ignorance" or "innocence" (I'm using the quotation marks because I'm not sure how to describe it lol) about many things are really funny. Maybe, it's a bit overused. But now, I really couldn't understand her anymore, she's very very kind, really unselfish, and yet after all this time, she also still has this "ignorance" and "innocence" to her. That's why I couldn't help but think that maybe she's hiding something from us (I know, it's a bit of a stretch lol, but I couldn't help it). Meh.. maybe that's just why so many people love her and my taste is just on the opposite side. Nene for life!

Anyway, in the end, Shiraishi didn't even answer Yamada about when she wrote that "body-swap" note on her journal. Yeah yeah, the answer is easy probably she realized it earlier and wrote it immediately or maybe she already got some intels from Takuma or maybe she just had an intuition or predicted it.

That is a Light Yagami level of internal dialogue by Yamada lol. Perhaps, Yamada is secretly bright. This chapter, we could see that Yamada's really good on sports. I dunno why he & Ushio were being a loner prior to the incident with Nancy. They could've just joined a sports club..

Please ignore me, I just overthinked too much lol. By the way, another school trip is coming soon.
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Mar 9, 2016 12:52 AM
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Dat monologue with Yamada though LOL.
Mar 9, 2016 6:08 AM
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Pretty boring chapter.

So...We're just going to leave what Alex did to Nene in the last chapter ambiguous?
Mar 9, 2016 6:26 AM
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Again nice cover. I like these fantasy covers.
As for the chapter, is was ok but filler no less.
Mar 9, 2016 11:58 AM
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Shiraishi is the best girl in the series but I do believe she is infact hiding something. It was mentioned in a previous chapter forever ago by the guy with the cane that she has not told him something yet. Moreover the chapters that had her at Yamada's house may have been her trying to find the courage to tell him her secret (or she just wanted to spend some time with him). I think it has something to do with how to re-obtain his lost memories but she may be holding back for Himekawa's sake. The lost memories need to be revealed soon since this arc is taking so many detours. Yamada was shown heading to the teachers office and probably meeting Shiraishi is the past. Himekawa was shown expressing that she felt that Yamada was in love with someone else (which is clearly Shiarishi). As with Nene still loving Yamada even before and after memory loss. Yamada and Shiraishi are still drawn to each other in both past and present. Yamada's fling with Himekawa was sincere but we will have to wait and see what the truth is. I would not mind Shiraishi showing a little selfishness now and again as she did when she was sulking alone at home when he looked into her past. Its clear she loves and trusts Yamada but sometimes can't help but to act a little selfish now and again. I liked this chapter but it confuses me on shiraishi's intentions even more. I do not want all the memories beforehand (first books of the manga) to be left forgotten by everyone. I think Yoshikawa is filling us with a lot of filler while trying to think about how to get around a memory plot hole.
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finestseeker17 said:
I really like the cover for this chapter. Maybe, the mangaka should work on a fantasy story next. Although, I don't mind reading another school-life manga.

I've always liked Shiraishi since the early chapters of this manga. Even though I like Nene more, I still like Shiraishi. But, lately I couldn't help but think that her character is too good to be true. I mean, in the past, she just seems like a cool and kind, but also cute socially awkward girl that really loves studying. Her "ignorance" or "innocence" (I'm using the quotation marks because I'm not sure how to describe it lol) about many things are really funny. Maybe, it's a bit overused. But now, I really couldn't understand her anymore, she's very very kind, really unselfish, and yet after all this time, she also still has this "ignorance" and "innocence" to her. That's why I couldn't help but think that maybe she's hiding something from us (I know, it's a bit of a stretch lol, but I couldn't help it). Meh.. maybe that's just why so many people love her and my taste is just on the opposite side. Nene for life!

Anyway, in the end, Shiraishi didn't even answer Yamada about when she wrote that "body-swap" note on her journal. Yeah yeah, the answer is easy probably she realized it earlier and wrote it immediately or maybe she already got some intels from Takuma or maybe she just had an intuition or predicted it.

That is a Light Yagami level of internal dialogue by Yamada lol. Perhaps, Yamada is secretly bright. This chapter, we could see that Yamada's really good on sports. I dunno why he & Ushio were being a loner prior to the incident with Nancy. They could've just joined a sports club..

Please ignore me, I just overthinked too much lol. By the way, another school trip is coming soon.


Wow, this chapter was boring as hell. Nothing of "importance" really happened, nothing.

Well, it seems i'm not the only one who noticed that. Yes, shiraishi's character seems suspicious now. The final words of takuma after telling yamada that he had to wait to hold the ceremony to get back everyone's memories of what happened made me think that perhaps Shiraishi did something bad in the past. It is just a thought, but for all we know Yamazaki's predecessor wanted to keep the existence of the witches/wicth killers as a secret, right? We also know that Rika was the one who took care of Yamazaki's group and that someone else (whose identity is still unknown) had to make sure that Yamada's group do not hold the ceremony. Well, at first i thought that person might be Asuka (and it is still possible that it was her), but how about that person was Shiraishi. Just think about it: Himekawa was innocent and too dumb to have come up with the idea of erasing everyone's memories (she's as dumb as yamada), someone must have told her that doing so would fix things (Shiraishi).
Sigh... but we will have to wait a bit more to see what really happened (just one warlock left to track down)...
Mar 9, 2016 12:59 PM
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Not a whole lot happened, but I enjoyed the chapter plenty because it was Shiraishi focused. Body swap shenanigans with Miyamura's interactions always are gold.
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Shiraishi is the best girl in the series but I do believe she is infact hiding something. It was mentioned in a previous chapter forever ago by the guy with the cane that she has not told him something yet. Moreover the chapters that had her at Yamada's house may have been her trying to find the courage to tell him her secret (or she just wanted to spend some time with him). I think it has something to do with how to re-obtain his lost memories but she may be holding back for Himekawa's sake. The lost memories need to be revealed soon since this arc is taking so many detours. Yamada was shown heading to the teachers office and probably meeting Shiraishi is the past. Himekawa was shown expressing that she felt that Yamada was in love with someone else (which is clearly Shiarishi). As with Nene still loving Yamada even before and after memory loss. Yamada and Shiraishi are still drawn to each other in both past and present. Yamada's fling with Himekawa was sincere but we will have to wait and see what the truth is. I would not mind Shiraishi showing a little selfishness now and again as she did when she was sulking alone at home when he looked into her past. Its clear she loves and trusts Yamada but sometimes can't help but to act a little selfish now and again. I liked this chapter but it confuses me on shiraishi's intentions even more. I do not want all the memories beforehand (first books of the manga) to be left forgotten by everyone. I think Yoshikawa is filling us with a lot of filler while trying to think about how to get around a memory plot hole.


well, something doesn't make much sense here. First, himekawa and shiraishi were complete strangers to each other, so hiemkawa finding out about yamada liking a girl who she's never seen before wouldn't have caused her to cry (at most, she would be sad, but crying like that?it must have been somehting that really caused he feel awfu, somehting that ironically she says on the chapter when yamada tells her his plan of getting back everyone's memoriesl). Since Himekawa says that she isn't the one Yamada is in love with (not making it up, this is said on chapter 168) and that due to Nancy's duty as the seventh witch her being that girl is unlikely, the only person left is Nene. This would cause a ot of trouble because Ushio and Yamada are best friends. Ushio likes Nene, but Nene has been in love with yamada since freshman year so Ushio finding out would cause the handicraft club to disband and everyone would be on their own. If you read some previous chapters, you will see that Yamada had an awful school life, he had nothing in common with the rest of the students and ever since the incident with the thugs, everyone saw him as a troublemaker. He felt so bad that he was planning to drop out of school (but Nancy and Himekawa persuaded not to). This situation would make himekawa's reaction to make more sense (she was worried about yamada being alone once more and destroying yamada and ushio's friendship). Also, there's a hint on chapter 152 or 153 (i don't remember which one) where Yamada shows how good he's at sewing stuff animals (a cute stuff bunny). Someone must have taught him how to sew, and since himekawa is really bad at it (just take a look at the stuff animals she makes, they look terrible), she couldn't have been that girl (remember the picture of yamada that Nene found in a sewing box she found in his bedroom). Because of these details and takuma's monologue in which he says that shiraishi's aware that Yamada will fall in love with the girl from the past again, makes shiraishi look suspicious. Perhaps she did something bad in that past (we know that yamazaki's predecessor wanted to keep the existence of the witches secret, and that she, as president, had many people working for her, maybe shiraishi was one of them, it is a possibility)...we'll have to wait a bit more, just one warlock left to go (i hope)...
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I thought we still need 2 more witches, or am I wrong? Let's see: Masamune, Yuri, Takuma, Hikaru, and Alex. Did I miss someone?

Anyway, they couldn't do a ceremony with the same set of witches, right? So, if they change any of the members, they could do it several times. Or am I wrong? I recall Nene said that she and the witches from 1st part of this series + an ugly-looking senior lol were called for a meeting in the altar room. So, I assume they were gathered there to do a ceremony with Yamazaki. And yet later, they could still hold a ceremony with Yamada, but without the ugly-looking senior lol.

If I'm right, then the male witches (warlocks) aren't just a gimmick lol. You could do it with different witches, but you couldn't do it if it's a mix between witches and warlocks XD. If I'm wrong, then they could just hold a ceremony right now with the mix between Takuma's and Nancy's witches.

By the way, the story aren't really going anywhere since that chapter where we saw Himekawa's crying and said that Yamada's crush was not her. It's the same as always. This manga is hanging by a thread in my mind. It's still about whether that girl was Urara or not! If it was Urara, without a good explanation on why Nene's so in love with Yamada, then I'll review my score on this series for sure.
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I thought we still need 2 more witches, or am I wrong? Let's see: Masamune, Yuri, Takuma, Hikaru, and Alex. Did I miss someone?

Anyway, they couldn't do a ceremony with the same set of witches, right? So, if they change any of the members, they could do it several times. Or am I wrong? I recall Nene said that she and the witches from 1st part of this series + an ugly-looking senior lol were called for a meeting in the altar room. So, I assume they were gathered there to do a ceremony with Yamazaki. And yet later, they could still hold a ceremony with Yamada, but without the ugly-looking senior lol.

If I'm right, then the male witches (warlocks) aren't just a gimmick lol. You could do it with different witches, but you couldn't do it if it's a mix between witches and warlocks XD. If I'm wrong, then they could just hold a ceremony right now with the mix between Takuma's and Nancy's witches.

By the way, the story aren't really going anywhere since that chapter where we saw Himekawa's crying and said that Yamada's crush was not her. It's the same as always. This manga is hanging by a thread in my mind. It's still about whether that girl was Urara or not! If it was Urara, without a good explanation on why Nene's so in love with Yamada, then I'll review my score on this series for sure.


mmmmmmmmm yes my friend, you're forgetting Kurosaki Jin lol... only one warlock left to track down. So, another yankee-kun ending, simply epic ROFL XD....

Mmmm i don't think yamada can hold a ceremony using witches from different groups (but since this author seems to want to drag this thing on even further, who knows lol ). Like i said some chapter ago, if it is the Urara, then all this has been a walking in circles; if it isn't her..mmm....well...mmmm
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mmmmmmmmm yes my friend, you're forgetting Kurosaki Jin lol... only one warlock left to track down. So, another yankee-kun ending, simply epic ROFL XD....

Oooh right! Thank you! I totally forgot about him LOL! Ooh, so this filler-ish and boring chapter makes sense now. It's almost time for the revelation.

Yup, it could be Yankee-kun all over again! LOL. I hope the mangaka reads our discussions here. Better be prepared, Yoshikawa-san! XD

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Mmmm i don't think yamada can hold a ceremony using witches from different groups (but since this author seems to want to drag this thing on even further, who knows lol ). Like i said some chapter ago, if it is the Urara, then all this has been a walking in circles; if it isn't her..mmm....well...mmmm

Exactly! Even if it'll end with the "bad" ending *cough* Urara *cough*, I'll still rate this better than Nisekoi tho..
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Yup, it could be Yankee-kun all over again! LOL. I hope the mangaka reads our discussions here. Better be prepared, Yoshikawa-san! XD[/quote]

sheeeeeiitttttttt man!!!!!!! another awful ending lol

"yoshikawa reading discussions" : muhahahaha, i got them to like my story, now it's time to screw the manga (actually, it lready is, but it'd be the cherry on the cake, the grand finale) and laughing at them.... XD.


"Exactly! Even if it'll end with the "bad" ending *cough* Urara *cough*, I'll still rate this better than Nisekoi tho.."

man, anything is better than Nisekoi..
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sheeeeeiitttttttt man!!!!!!! another awful ending lol

"yoshikawa reading discussions" : muhahahaha, i got them to like my story, now it's time to screw the manga (actually, it lready is, but it'd be the cherry on the cake, the grand finale) and laughing at them.... XD.

Lol I hope she won't troll us. For me, it's still debateable whether this series is already ruined or not. Yeah, maybe those detours and fillers are a bit annoying. But, for me overall it's still good. It's hanging by a thread, but for now, it's still good lol.

ludokresh said:
man, anything is better than Nisekoi..

There was a time brother.. when Nisekoi was good. Currently, I rate it 6, but I always a have feeling that I'll rate it 4 when it's over lol.
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Finally a chapter just about Yamada x Shiraishi!
Was nice to have a chapter about their romance after all the stuff happened.
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ludokresh said:
sheeeeeiitttttttt man!!!!!!! another awful ending lol

"yoshikawa reading discussions" : muhahahaha, i got them to like my story, now it's time to screw the manga (actually, it lready is, but it'd be the cherry on the cake, the grand finale) and laughing at them.... XD.

Lol I hope she won't troll us. For me, it's still debateable whether this series is already ruined or not. Yeah, maybe those detours and fillers are a bit annoying. But, for me overall it's still good. It's hanging by a thread, but for now, it's still good lol.

ludokresh said:
man, anything is better than Nisekoi..

There was a time brother.. when Nisekoi was good. Currently, I rate it 6, but I always a have feeling that I'll rate it 4 when it's over lol.


for me, when yamada kun started until chapter 90-91 it was good, it's been all.downhill from there.
First arc: 1-90 very good----i rate it 9
second arc: 90-180----- rate it 6
current arc: rate it 4 or maybe 5

i keep reading it because i've passed the point of no return, i've read over 180 chapters and no matter how shitty it gets (something tells me it will get even shittier, a disturbance in the Force if you will), i must see that awful ending XD LOL
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for me, when yamada kun started until chapter 90-91 it was good, it's been all.downhill from there.
First arc: 1-90 very good----i rate it 9
second arc: 90-180----- rate it 6
current arc: rate it 4 or maybe 5

i keep reading it because i've passed the point of no return, i've read over 180 chapters and no matter how shitty it gets (something tells me it will get even shittier, a disturbance in the Force if you will), i must see that awful ending XD LOL

Lol I do that too with several manga in the past.

I could accept your score, because if I just see the big picture of this story after chapter 90, the plot is pretty much all over the place. Put a detour here, put a filler there, let's explore new characters and ditch the old ones lol, let's put Yamada & Miyamura back to the Supernatural Studies Club so we could focus on the club members, too much drama here then let's put some Yamada & Shiraishi moments, and etc etc.

I could tolerate all of that just because the author puts borderline reasons behind all that stuff. I call it borderline because it's really in the middle between acceptable and not lol. Pretty much my view on this series as whole.

If it wasn't for that mystery girl of Yamada and if it wasn't for Nene (she's my current anime/manga crush, replacing Elsie from TWGOK, finally I can get over her cuteness), I'm sure I already make a rant in each discussion threads of this series XD

If it's gonna be Shiraishi end and without good explanation about Nene, then I'll have a hard time scoring this series lol. Probably 6 or 7, because I can't say that it's bad as a whole, I can't forget the enjoyment of past chapters, plus I have my anime/manga crush here, so I definitely won't rate it 4 as a whole. And, it's totally not average because I'm totally hooked with this manga. So yeah, maybe between 6 or 7. The only way I'll rate this series below 6 is if Miki Yoshikawa surprises us with even more troll ending this time lol.
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Mangaka bruh, pls stop this manga already cuz iz so boring and death shet now LOL

This chapter was boring as hell even if u put all these loveflags.

It gonna end like YanMegane with the editor get bored of ur shit again and give us a bad shitty fast ending.

if was not for Nene who here will still reading this manga?? lol
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if was not for Nene who here will still reading this manga?? lol

Lol.. don't start it, bruh! Shiraishi's fanboys are as many as we are. Currently, they're just lurking underground and don't post as much. I bet if the mangaka gives us a Nene end *cough*best end*cough*, there will be a riot in the final chapter's discussion thread lol. I don't mind it tho... :p This manga is pretty popular, almost 39000 users. So, it'll be fun to see the reactions.
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Yay, finally there are somemore Yamada x Shiraishi moments :DD
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damnshettodesu said:
if was not for Nene who here will still reading this manga?? lol

Lol.. don't start it, bruh! Shiraishi's fanboys are as many as we are. Currently, they're just lurking underground and don't post as much. I bet if the mangaka gives us a Nene end *cough*best end*cough*, there will be a riot in the final chapter's discussion thread lol. I don't mind it tho... :p This manga is pretty popular, almost 39000 users. So, it'll be fun to see the reactions.


Bruh, bring em to Nene team is ez



mangaka-kunt draw dis just for Nene~
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It gonna end like YanMegane with the editor get bored of ur shit again and give us a bad shitty fast ending.

if was not for Nene who here will still reading this manga?? lol


Precisely. one of the two reaosns why i keep reading it

I still hope this thing will not end as Yankee-kun did (cough* cough* who the hell am i kidding cough* cough*). The trolling is strong with this one (yoshikawa)
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Bruh, bring em to Nene team is ez



mangaka-kunt draw dis just for Nene~

If only it was that easy my brother. Anyway, you picked an awesome pic there. That is perfect! Lol.

But, seriously, it's either gonna end with a troll and weird ending or it's gonna be Shiraishi ending. But, there's still a possibility for Nene. Let's hang on to that!
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damnshettodesu said:
Bruh, bring em to Nene team is ez



mangaka-kunt draw dis just for Nene~

If only it was that easy my brother. Anyway, you picked an awesome pic there. That is perfect! Lol.

But, seriously, it's either gonna end with a troll and weird ending or it's gonna be Shiraishi ending. But, there's still a possibility for Nene. Let's hang on to that!


yeah, like yamada waking up in the school infirmary and realizing that everything was just a dream:

yamada: where's shiraishi
nurse: oh, you're wake, you mean the blonde girl?
yamada: yeah:
nurse: let's just say that she didn't end up well after that fall
---then roll the credits...

seriously though, i hope Nene wins.. she's da best XD <3 <3
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yeah, like yamada waking up in the school infirmary and realizing that everything was just a dream:

yamada: where's shiraishi
nurse: oh, you're wake, you mean the blonde girl?
yamada: yeah:
nurse: let's just say that she didn't end up well after that fall
---then roll the credits...

seriously though, i hope Nene wins.. she's da best XD <3 <3

Lol! That is a perfect troll ending. If she really dares to put that kind of ending and the editors give her a green light, then I'll be totally impressed by them. That is so annoying and yet so hilarious at the same time XD

Yup, let's just hope and enjoy the ride for now. The ceremony is coming near. I don't mind a few fillers, but I'll definitely hate her if she put another detour like some drama or memory erasing come out of nowhere.
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It's really meh chapter. Pretty much what we've already seen in the first few chapters of this series. Like the first time they switched bodies.

Well I suppose the author needs to make a filler like this to keep Shiraishi lovers content.

What I need now is more Nene. And don't give me that Alex route crap dear author.

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finestseeker17 said:
damnshettodesu said:
if was not for Nene who here will still reading this manga?? lol

Lol.. don't start it, bruh! Shiraishi's fanboys are as many as we are. Currently, they're just lurking underground and don't post as much. I bet if the mangaka gives us a Nene end *cough*best end*cough*, there will be a riot in the final chapter's discussion thread lol. I don't mind it tho... :p This manga is pretty popular, almost 39000 users. So, it'll be fun to see the reactions.


Nene end or else riot. I will give it a score of 3 then. :P
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Shiriashi is too damn cute. <3

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