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DoctorWasabi said: LordPerucho said: TBH Pierrot with that Tokyo Ghoul level of budget would make Berserk around Hunter x Hunter level. Is no one bothered with Guts voice? He sounds BORING, probably the worst voice of 2016 along with Dekus voice from BNHA. Pierrot would make it look nice, but they would butcher the story. But honestly at least it would at least look nice, than seeing this Pierrot did Yu Yu Hakusho in the 90s, one of the best anime-from-manga adaptions in my opinion. (Japanese language version only, obviously). |
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| Tokyo Ghoul was high budget?? A 5 year old could draw better frames in some RE: fight scenes..though I still really liked the 1st season..season 2 was just bad even as a standalone without comparing it to the manga The entire production of berserk is baffling though..the production cast had pretty much unknown people even the studio is pretty much unknown..which is weird as hell given how popular berserk is. |
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Uberspyguy said: Get ready for a metric ton of people who either hate this show because of: A.) The CG B.) Because it doesn't adapt the manga perfectly panel by panel I think people need to realize that CG is going to become the norm in anime because it's much more efficient in terms of production than traditional 2d hand drawn animation and in terms of an adaptation do people not get the fact that anime and manga are two completely separate entities? They exist in parallel to each other. An anime doesn't have to adhere to the manga at all if the producers want to take it in a new direction. As someone who reads Berserk this first episode already shows that they are doing things differently than the source material but for all that is unholy can we not relish in the fact that we get to see Guts kill shit again? You have to admit the CG was horrible. It seemed like I was watching a laggging anime. |
RealCW said: I thought Puck's role was, apart from other things, to prevent Guts from completely descending into a pure monster, before the rest of his new team joins. Rickert even says so in volume 20ish too. Well yea he kinda does serve as a reminded to Guts, that not everything in the world is corrup and evil. Still I think the real reason he was put there in the first place, is that they have an excuse as to why Guts can get completely destroyed in a fight and get up the next day lol. Like without Puck, Guts would be out of commission for weeks/months after every major battle. Assuming he would survive with all the damage he takes. |
| Sad that they skipped the lost children stuff and the CGI is painfully bad at times but at least the music is pretty good. Not too impressed with the preview. |
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| People told me not to watch this and to read the manga instead. I should of listened. |
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| I cannot watch this for a few weeks yet, and by then there will be more, but I can still add to the conversation as a huge Berserk fan myself and adequately judge what's been said or not. I'm now wondering why Isidro had to be introduced here in episode 1, like, at all. If the whole point of this anime was just to do the Conviction arc, Isidro IS introduced properly in the manga inside this same arc. Why couldn't they just wait to add him at that same scene with the Kushan warriors/Salat? And, pretty sure I read that Shiereke is there as well. That blows my mind; I can't even fathom how or what they'll even do with her, or were they prematurely setting her up for a sequel or what? Man, I feel very reluctant to start this series; the only thing that can save it would be if they stayed as faithful as possible until the end now that the awkward beginning is over with. I don't have blind loyalty to brand names. My love of the manga is wholly unaffected by a lame adaptation and my open dislike for it. I don't have to watch it if it won't improve. |
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| beyond disappointed with this anime. I was so immersed with the '97 version, and to not be able to last 30 seconds with this one is really sad. |
| Certainly not the worst I've seen, and definitely not the best... |
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| I didn't read the manga or watched the previous series, so, can someone tell me, is this is a reboot or a sequel? (Sorry for the bad english) |
| Did they hire a female seiyuu for Puck? If so, why? Remembering the manga, it was made pretty clear that Puck is a male. I exspected some manlier voice (not too deep of course). The voice just doesn't fit. I'm still looking forward to Puck's antics. |
G_Spark233 said: Sad that they skipped the lost children stuff and the CGI is painfully bad at times but at least the music is pretty good. Not too impressed with the preview. Yea it's gonna really suck, if they skip it completely. It's actually one of my fav arcs and easily best of the "Guts hunts apostles" arcs It makes me really sad that I won't get to see the fight between Guts and "elf queen" animated. 'cus there's few things more terrifying and badass as pissed off Guts. One of those things is pissed off Guts ON FIRE |
HSoler said: I didn't read the manga or watched the previous series, so, can someone tell me, is this is a reboot or a sequel? (Sorry for the bad english) Berserk is a manga series running since 1989 and still to this day, 37 volumes so far in length. In the mid-90s, an anime adaptation was done that roughly encapsulated the first chronological arc, with skimping in both the beginning and ending, leaving it incomplete. In 2013, a trilogy of films was announced to, again, adapt the first arc that the original anime covered. This time it was far more cut down with even worse CG animation, and in my opinion, far worse writing as well. And now, while the same company as the films are not working on it, this can be looked at as a supposed 'sequel' to the film series, if only that it's trying to resume its place right after the arc flashback in the original manga. I think it has more in common with the film trilogy than the original anime, but it could be looked at as a sequel to either of them; the continuity is so loose it almost doesn't matter. Only avid fans of the manga really understand how it's supposed to fit. For a newcomer, it's very difficult. Hope that helps. |
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| Lmao, it's the studio who made fucking Teekyuu xD I'm not even a fan of Berserk, I only came here to see the salt of the comments, but this totally made my day xD |
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Helenus said: Did they hire a female seiyuu for Puck? If so, why? Remembering the manga, it was made pretty clear that Puck is a male. I exspected some manlier voice (not too deep of course). The voice just doesn't fit. I'm still looking forward to Puck's antics. You can have a female voice in anime and still be male. I recall Puck's voice from the PS2 game and thinking "That's exactly how I thought he sounded", and a few other of my friends agreed when they read it. If they took that same route here, I'm glad. Nothing is worse to me than that "Stu the Happy Elf" voice the english version of the other PS2 game gave him. I had to try to scrub my brain of that voice before I could read the manga again. |
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RealCW said: Only avid fans of the manga really understand how it's supposed to fit. For a newcomer, it's very difficult. Hope that helps. More like only fans of the manga can understand how everything doesn't fit. I mean I have no clue how or why the things are happening in the order they are, much less why events like the carriage scene and the sacrifice tree are tied together. |
| @RealCW thanks man, really helped me. Well, so it's better to me read the manga first, because i didn't understand this episode and i didn't like it, but the manga is the top 1 in MAL, so, i probably shoud read it |
_Peksi said: RealCW said: Only avid fans of the manga really understand how it's supposed to fit. For a newcomer, it's very difficult. Hope that helps. More like only fans of the manga can understand how everything doesn't fit. I mean I have no clue how or why the things are happening in the order they are, much less why events like the carriage scene and the sacrifice tree are tied together. Or why Isidro had to be introduced, or even Shierke (?) as well. I don't disagree with you, just saying, a newcomer will have no idea how any of this will tie together if they watch ANY anime version beforehand. Obviously the director tried some sort of fanservice for those, like, "Well, we can't do the Lost Children arc... but here's A PART OF IT. BETTER THAN NOTHING, RIGHT??" (<--- Getting so sick of this crutch) HSoler said: @RealCW thanks man, really helped me. Well, so it's better to me read the manga first, because i didn't understand this episode and i didn't like it, but the manga is the top 1 in MAL, so, i probably shoud read it You got it. :) I hope you get into it like the rest of us have. |
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RealCW said: Helenus said: Did they hire a female seiyuu for Puck? If so, why? Remembering the manga, it was made pretty clear that Puck is a male. I exspected some manlier voice (not too deep of course). The voice just doesn't fit. I'm still looking forward to Puck's antics. You can have a female voice in anime and still be male. I recall Puck's voice from the PS2 game and thinking "That's exactly how I thought he sounded", and a few other of my friends agreed when they read it. If they took that same route here, I'm glad. Nothing is worse to me than that "Stu the Happy Elf" voice the english version of the other PS2 game gave him. I had to try to scrub my brain of that voice before I could read the manga again. Of course. There are a lot of very talented female seiyuu, who voice (young) male characters. This wasn't meant as an offense to female voice actors. But in the case of Anime Puck 2016 the voice doesn't fit in my opinion. It is way too high pitched and effeminate. |
| Alright so looks like we're heading past the prequel story, took you long enough guys! I'm really liking the mix of old style 97' with the CG, but at times the CG can be a little bit overwhelming, understandable. I really hope they switch to using non-CG during fighting scenes to prevent a loss of frames and keep it in instances like the screencap above. They'd do so well regarding their budget and their target audience would keep coming back for more. Regardless, I'm hooked, unbiased, and ready for a dark gore-fest. |
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| Uh can someone tell me if the scene with the old man and the girl was adapted in that way in the manga? One or two years passed since I've read that passage so I don't remember it that much. Wasn't Rickert traveling with them first? And I don't remember the girl dying and attacking Guts ... |
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| fucking hell. i hope it will be 12 ep max |
Helenus said: Did they hire a female seiyuu for Puck? If so, why? Remembering the manga, it was made pretty clear that Puck is a male. I exspected some manlier voice (not too deep of course). / plenty male characters have female seiyuus naruto, kenshin, luffy, allen walker, elric brothers etc besides I don't see how a fairy could ever have a manly voice but not quite sure either if pucks voice fits with the seiyuu atm |
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RealCW said: Or why Isidro had to be introduced, or even Shierke (?) as well. I don't disagree with you, just saying, a newcomer will have no idea how any of this will tie together if they watch ANY anime version beforehand. Obviously the director tried some sort of fanservice for those, like, "Well, we can't do the Lost Children arc... but here's A PART OF IT. BETTER THAN NOTHING, RIGHT??" (<--- Getting so sick of this crutch) Yea it's just why? Why would the be introduced now. It just feels so wrong on so many levels. True dat, it's confusing enough for the people who actually know how things are supposed to go. Meaning it's just that much worse for newcomers. Yea that was probably the idea and it failed completely. Like I would have been fine with a random new tree monster and random bandits, but noooo. They just had to take something from the canon and forcibly slap it into the wrong place(kinda like forcing a triangle piece through circle shaped hole) If anything it felt like slap in the face for a fan like me. Not to mention the sacrifce tree scene was WAY better in the manga anyway. I mean it had some actual build up and served a purpose. Here's it's "oh hey random tree monster appears and Guts kills it" |
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Arse said: Trollsenpai said: This episode screamed only one line :"It's berserk and you're gonna watch it anyway" LMFAO This is so true I feel like an extremy religious parent with a Gay Son... I feel bad about it, but I love him anyway. (JK) The animation and direction suck tho |
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Cav3mon64 said: Do as you please, my dear mate ^_^Illyricus said: I can only hate you for you laughing at our misery but that might be because I probably would've done the same if I were in your position, now if you will excuse me would you like for me to sing my sorrows for you in auto-tune for your amusement? Auto-tune is technologically advanced yeah? so by their logic it will achieve fantastic results.Lmao, it's the studio who made fucking Teekyuu xD I'm not even a fan of Berserk, I only came here to see the salt of the comments, but this totally made my day xD She looks like an older Suruga Kanbaru, tbh. |
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Warghost said: Uh can someone tell me if the scene with the old man and the girl was adapted in that way in the manga? One or two years passed since I've read that passage so I don't remember it that much. Wasn't Rickert traveling with them first? And I don't remember the girl dying and attacking Guts ... It was actually accurate as far as I remember, until the bandits and tree showed up that is. Nah Rickert met with Puck before that, IIRC before the Eclipse. The girl does die in the manga and kills her father before attacking Guts |
| Honestly, as a manga fan, people made this sound incredibly bad, when in reality I actually enjoyed it a lot. First, I think the hate circle jerk is in full motion, it's too late to stop it now and it's definitely the cool thing to hate on this and CG anime as a whole. Which I feel is very unfortunate and unfair to this episode. First the CG, it actually looked really good to me. It looked about on par if not better than things like Ajin or Knights of Sidonia. People are complaining about "frames" but I don't think they realize if this was 2D there would be about as many frames if not less way more often, people mostly just don't want focus on it with most anime. I think the hatched shading was a super awesome style to make the CG look much less stale, and there were plenty of incredibly fluid moments and times where if you pause it the show looks indistinguishable from 2D. However, I won't say the CG was perfect, the bandits looked awful, and the tree looked pretty bad, but not as bad as the bandits. However, these were also very minor side characters with little screen time so I can understand the lack of effort they'd probably put into them. It was distracting, but not damning of the show overall. Now the pacing, I understand how much it had skipped and the weird order they had things in, but I feel like this might suit it better in the long run similar to an FMA Brotherhood type deal, once the conviction arc is in full force I feel it'll be much more faithful. For what it was it was still really damn cool though and conveyed the tone well. Lastly the music and sound effects were stellar, the noise it made when he hit things with his sword was incredibly impactful and the music really got my blood pumping during those action scenes. The episode wasn't perfect by any means, but goddammit people it wasn't terrible or as horrid as most people seem to be making it out to be. I'm really excited for more. |
| Pretty disappointing. Not only were the aesthetics really ugly but the direction was also very subpar. The transitions between each scene felt awkward and I felt completely lost on why all these things were happening. There were too many close ups and cuts during the fights which made these scenes feel frantic, and not in a good way. I won't be watching the rest and might pick the manga instead although I dislike starting something that might not end anytime soon. |
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Aredros said: I feel like an extremy religious parent with a Gay Son... I feel bad about it, but I love him anyway. (JK) *slams hand on table* that's it you described how I felt! |
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| @Zutrax: Exactly my point. Manga purists should just drop it and move on, because this is not the adaptation they were looking for. But once the circle jerk hate begins it's hard to stop it. I read the manga as well and dived in with low expectations. I will always have the manga there waiting to be reread, but seeing who was tasked to take care of BERSERK of all mangas is some barely known studio I kinda expected some butchering and cut content to occur. I'm still happy I get to see SOME of the arcs beyond Golden Age animated even if it's CGI and I'll enjoy the ride through to it's conclusion. |
Rei366 said: Nope, we're past the Golden Age arc, which is the second arc in the manga and the only one the 1997 anime and the 2012 movies adapted. The chronology is all over the place in Berserk; the first arc, the Black Swordsman, where Guts meets Puck for the first time, is immediatly followed by the extremely long flashback arc that is the Golden Age. Stark700 said: So in essence, the show assumes the viewers are pretty familiar with the franchise already. What? Wasn't this series supposed to tell the beginning of the manga who follow chronologically the flashback chapters who were anmated twice? I was almost certain the first book introduced the "fairy" like this episode did. It makes the whole work pretty hard to translate into animation, especially when you plan on cutting out entire arcs like the 2016 does (the Lost Children arc, which is supposed to be the first post Golden Age arc in the manga, won't be adapted). The first episode is actually weird combination of iconic scenes from the first arc and from the end of the Golden Age arc (after the Eclipse) as well as a couple of cameos and early inroductions thrown into the mix, but you definitely need to have either read the manga or watched the anime adaptations to know what's going on. |
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| That was some of the most janky animation I have ever seen. Everything just looks stilted and creepy. I developed a splitting headache after a mere 10 minutes. |
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Illyricus said: Cav3mon64 said: Do as you please, my dear mate ^_^I can only hate you for you laughing at our misery but that might be because I probably would've done the same if I were in your position, now if you will excuse me would you like for me to sing my sorrows for you in auto-tune for your amusement? Auto-tune is technologically advanced yeah? so by their logic it will achieve fantastic results. She looks like an older Suruga Kanbaru, tbh. OH TELLLL MEEEEEE HOWWWWWW AM I SUPPOOOOSSSSSED TO LIVE WITHOOOOOOOUUUUUUTTTTT YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUU :'( |
| My only question is where was Miura when this was being discussed and done put into production. How could he let this be? Did he really sell us out and didn't attend the meeting cause of freaking Idolmaster? |
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