Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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smoct_ai said: Jagd84 said: @smoct_ai as Fappa said back a page ago: "Missing" works in this context too because it's essentially saying the same thing in a more subtle or roundabout way. It fits more within the setting in terms of flavor test. Yes, huzai 不在(translated into missing in English Sub) also works in a somewhat similar way in this context. But I did not mention it because 御隠れ is an even more explicit expression than missing, as a Japanese dictionary entry of the word shows it. 不在: 本来いるべき場所にいないこと (not to be present in a place where it belongs naturally/legally/essentially) Yeah I just don't think really matters since translators localizing text here and there while retaining the original meaning is pretty common. It's also not out of place for Roswaal to say something that considering he's both a noble and politician. So in this case it's more of a minor nitpick at best. LeHman93 said: Btw in last ep in previos loop did beatrice actualy beat roswall or just delay him and then go to subaru(for those who read and shiet) It's left ambiguous, but was most likely a stalemate and Beako's main goal was to buy Subaru time, not to defeat Roswaal. |
| Well, the lap pillow was a nice scene, or rather was meant to be a nice scene but knowing that their relationship up until this point was completely destroyed and is now barely existing, I honestly gotta wonder what Subaru actually did to earn such intimacy. Doesn't really add up. Otherwise, the episode was a bit dull, and Subaru was absolutely unbearable, even though the show acknowledges his behaviour. The hints at him starting to break down were neat, though. We need moar of this. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Well, he works really hard in the mansion. Not mention he saved her ass and got the insignia back for her. How is their relationship "destroyed" when everything was reset? |
| Down on the West Coast They got a sayin' |
crx07 said: Fai said: I am speaking about Subaru being summoned to the fantasy world. I'm not speaking about the curse. And I believe those are separate issues. We all think that Satella is the one who put the curse to Subaru but we still don't have significant clues on who summoned Subaru to the fantasy world aside from the first minutes of episode 1a. Satella cursing Subaru does not mean Satella summoning Subaru to the isekai. But it's just my conjecture, so anybody can argue about it. I actually lean toward your conjecture about Emilia cursing.Na, that's the scene of Subaru dying and grabbing Emilia's bloody hand front he en of the episode 1B. Which is why people think that the whole"rewind" curse was activated that moment. @smoct_ai @Fai We are derailing the discussion thread here. Yes I know the scene you are speaking of, THe flashes you see there are from the moment Subaru dies in the end of 1B. |
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crx07 said: I'm still a bit skeptical about it because of lack of decisive info but with the available info shown by the anime, I believe Subaru got cursed by holding Emilia. So the question on how did Subaru get to the fantasy world is now again a big mystery, and the only suspect I can think of is Satella. She's the only powerful person I know in this anime. How did he get there and why he is chosen is a big question. I would not be surprised if it is a circular time travel paradox logic: - Subaru got transported and cursed because he held Emilia's bloody hand in that moment, which happened because he got transported to that world. |
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crx07 said: About that, I think Subaru is either the Dragon himself or summoned by the Dragon. ( remember how Rem said that the Dragon is the protector of the Royal family in episode 6? ) So the question on how did Subaru get to the fantasy world is now again a big mystery, and the only suspect I can think of is Satella. She's the only powerful person I know in this anime. How did he get there and why he is chosen is a big question. And I also think Subaru strangely resembles the Dragon shown in the story book |
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Fai said: which is a problem if it leaves the status of the King uncertain for the audience when it shouldn't be.In english subs no he did not and that's what matters. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| That was a nice episode However i'm really worried after so many said that the anime will stop being happy and stuff i mean whyyy :'( damn i'm trying to be optimistic but I can't .. ep8 was too peaceful for a typical Re:Zero episode .. and ep9 looks like is gonna compensate |
crx07 said: I don't know, I don't remember Bea making theories about the King nor which episode it was?Sapewloth said: Straight to the point, is Beako saying that the king is dead according to raw Japanese in the anime? Because I personally assume that people (like Beako) think that the king is dead but he may be alive. If he's alive, then it's a nice twist point.which is a problem if it leaves the status of the King uncertain for the audience when it shouldn't be. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
Sapewloth said: Fai said: which is a problem if it leaves the status of the King uncertain for the audience when it shouldn't be.In english subs no he did not and that's what matters. THe show has not been spoonfeedy in a lot of cases, why start now? Those who paid attention, understood the implication. And those who did not had them confirmed few episodes latter by Subaru |
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crx07 said: EDIT: I have a question. Is there a paradox logic in Re:Zero? EDIT2: My goodness curiosity kills a cat EDIT3: The question now is that how transporting a person from one world to another can be possible. |
FappaMay 24, 2016 10:58 AM
| I just wanna ask if its possible to already deduce who is Satella from the clues given by Betty |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
Fai said: there's a difference between not spoonfeeding the audience and being needlessly ambiguous for the hell of it.Sapewloth said: which is a problem if it leaves the status of the King uncertain for the audience when it shouldn't be. THe show has not been spoonfeedy in a lot of cases, why start now? Those who paid attention, understood the implication. And those who did not had them confirmed few episodes latter by Subaru Though that's the show's director/script writer/w/e who made the choice to do the latter, so I don't really have much to say on this (as I don't follow the source material). |
SapewlothMay 25, 2016 4:46 PM
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
kidlat020 said: I just wanna ask if its possible to already deduce who is Satella from the clues given by Betty No. You only know what Betty has told you so far and this isn't nearly enough to know even an ounce about Satella. We will need more episodes to clarify that :) |
I'm assuming this person shows up soon? |
| I haven't read the whole thing yet so sorry if this has already been discussed. Does anyone else think that Roswell is the shaman? I could also think that he is the one who hired Elsa to get the insignia for him. Also, the night of the second death by curse we hear chains http://prntscr.com/b81bbl and Subaru worked as a servant so there was no reason for Rem (blue haired twin i think) to kill him (her weapon had chains too) Motive: he wants to become king He hired Elsa to get the insignia for him so he could have a shot to being king, 20 holy coins or whatever seem like a lot of money (from the expressions of the old guy and the thief girl, but then again, they were rather poor, so it could be like showing a 50 eur bill to some poor bastard for a mere pin or something) and he certainly is well off in that aspect, but unfortunately Subaru interfered and not only that, but became his guest. As to why hiring someone instead of doing it himself, (he clearly didn't care if emilia lived or not, since she died in the first attack and was attacked in the last one by elsa too) maybe he just didn't want emilia dead anywhere near him so no one would suspect him of murder for the insignia. (they said that the carrier of the insignia can become king, not that an insignia can only have one owner). Buts: if there's one thing I've learned after scooby doo and 700+ eps of detective conan is that the most obvious person is probably innocent, but i feel like he just fits too well (unless im forgetting stuff/details, which is VERY likely). Also, i don't recall roswell touching subaru at any time, and although many people seem to think it must be someone from the village because rem died, it could just mean that since subaru spent the whole 4 (or whatever many) days inside the library and didnt touch anyone. Thoughts? |
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| So far this is the only episode that I disliked, mostly because of the way Subaru acted throughout it. |
FreshPrinceofMAL said: So far this is the only episode that I disliked, mostly because of the way Subaru acted throughout it. What do you mean exactly? |
"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."  |
Tony_SansNom said: FreshPrinceofMAL said: So far this is the only episode that I disliked, mostly because of the way Subaru acted throughout it. What do you mean exactly? His overly forced acting was irritating and it feels like he learned nothing from his previous deaths as far as how he should conduct himself. |
Yep he is in arc 3 and should appear at around episode 12/13 :) |
Can you tell me his name pls? |
FreshPrinceofMAL said: His overly forced acting was irritating and it feels like he learned nothing from his previous deaths as far as how he should conduct himself. Oh it's true, it was very forced. It was kind of pathetic. I liked the fact he got a try at magic though. If you do, please hide it with a spoiler tag. |
| "Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences." |
Of course, I don't want to ruin the experience for anyone :)! |
FappaMay 24, 2016 5:31 PM
Thank you so much! |
smoct_ai said: And I have an impression that many anime-only viewers think Re:zero is strong at mystery. I'd say it's a wrong assumption. The mystery aspect of the work is weak and disappointing. Its main emphasis is on depicting Subaru's endless, unlimited mental, emotional, physical pain, sufferings and mental break, and its resolution or salvation. See how many of the viewers got so impressed by the so-called lap scene in this episode? In my view, that's the kind of response the author wanted to get from the audience. Anyway, that's not the kind of response you can see from a well-made mystery genre work. Except it is a mystery because that how this arc has been paced and setup and has been pretty competent about it. Yes there other aspects to such exploration of physiological effects of Subaru's rewinding ties in his characterization but hat is only one aspect among others, like that the various worlding building elements and foundations are being laid down for future arcs and as well as expansion and later development of a few characters. In the end however that all ties into central mystery. Having a strong dramatic elements are often very much a part of mystery look at Kara no Shoujo for one example. And don't tell others what kind of response should get from any genre. You seem to have big problem of pushing your bias down on others. Really it's perfectly fine for you not to like something or to have your preferences, but doesn't make you the authority on what anyone should perceive or do any given work. Nobody likes elitists. |
Iron_MawMay 24, 2016 8:15 PM
| At any rate its a mystery for Subaru himself. Now lets stop trying to forcefeed the genre into the memes or one's expectations. A 'well written' literary work is all subjective after all. |
Keldaron said: Well, you are quite wrong about Rem. She did it and I wrote in episode 7 discussion thread why she did it.I haven't read the whole thing yet so sorry if this has already been discussed. Does anyone else think that Roswell is the shaman? I could also think that he is the one who hired Elsa to get the insignia for him. Also, the night of the second death by curse we hear chains http://prntscr.com/b81bbl and Subaru worked as a servant so there was no reason for Rem (blue haired twin i think) to kill him (her weapon had chains too) Motive: he wants to become king He hired Elsa to get the insignia for him so he could have a shot to being king, 20 holy coins or whatever seem like a lot of money (from the expressions of the old guy and the thief girl, but then again, they were rather poor, so it could be like showing a 50 eur bill to some poor bastard for a mere pin or something) and he certainly is well off in that aspect, but unfortunately Subaru interfered and not only that, but became his guest. As to why hiring someone instead of doing it himself, (he clearly didn't care if emilia lived or not, since she died in the first attack and was attacked in the last one by elsa too) maybe he just didn't want emilia dead anywhere near him so no one would suspect him of murder for the insignia. (they said that the carrier of the insignia can become king, not that an insignia can only have one owner). Buts: if there's one thing I've learned after scooby doo and 700+ eps of detective conan is that the most obvious person is probably innocent, but i feel like he just fits too well (unless im forgetting stuff/details, which is VERY likely). Also, i don't recall roswell touching subaru at any time, and although many people seem to think it must be someone from the village because rem died, it could just mean that since subaru spent the whole 4 (or whatever many) days inside the library and didnt touch anyone. Thoughts? As for Roswaal wanting to be the next king himself, I don't think it's the case. Having the insignia is not enough to be a candidate for the next ruler. As it was explained in episode 4, the insignia is a touchstone to determine if one is worthy of being the next king (it is assumed it must make some kind of magical reaction when one worthy is holding the stone). Besides, if he really wants to be the king he could simply marry Emilia once she is elected as the queen. Why would he use such extreme methods? |
mozgowMay 25, 2016 2:05 AM
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hailanth said: At any rate its a mystery for Subaru himself. Now lets stop trying to forcefeed the genre into the memes or one's expectations. A 'well written' literary work is all subjective after all. Well said, though in part that was what I trying to get at. Still mystery also engages the viewer since we only know as much as Subaru about what's going on for most part. |
hailanth said: At any rate its a mystery for Subaru himself. You could argue that it's mystery for us too as we follow Subaru and know what he knows... mostly... But this genre game is becoming too close to oppresion games :/ |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Xenocrisi said: Why is this anime so good? I am here to ask the same question. Crying? No, I'm not crying. Who is crying? *sniffle* |
| God this show is so fucking goodddddd! This is quickly becoming one of my all time favorites, its funny, solid story leaves you wondering every episode, great characters like every single one, its emotional! I'm in love<3 |
LN3000 said: Xenocrisi said: Why is this anime so good? I am here to ask the same question. Crying? No, I'm not crying. Who is crying? *sniffle* God your poor soul isn't ready for arc 3 :( |
| Not much happened and I can't stand Subarus behaviour anymore. He is one of the worst main chars ever. (Why can't he just behave normally at least a little bit?) So I decided to drop the anime at this point. 5/10 only. Could have been 7/10 (I actually like the fantasy setting even though there isn't much interesting plot and the pacing is bad) but this main char is worth -2. |
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