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Apr 2, 2016 3:22 PM
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I am just stopping by to see Arima killing stuffs
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PalpableDespair5 said:
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Houji vs Tatara and Akira vs Seidou are my most hyped fights, hopefully Ishida delivers.

They'll definitely be great fights so long as they're not filled with too many flashbacks :/


It seems ishida is repeating events in the first manga the ccg were fighting in the 13th ward and won when the ghouls fled but lost cochlea temporarily In the first with a series of events like the ones now (rescue mission to save someone held captive, kirishima flashbacks, ken saving a member of the kirishima family at the last second). It could be likely after the prison they will get a report saying the ccg has lost at rue island send help like what happened in the 13th ward in the first round.
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Why is Arima suddenly incapable of atually killing a ghoul? Or does he just feel bad for the :re gang for getting so little screentime and decided they deserved to live?
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If only the drawing were more clear. Not much happened in this chapter except for more Yomo death flags.

4/5
Apr 2, 2016 5:33 PM
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Touka and Kaneki reunion y'aaaallll <3
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Kvothe51 said:
Why is Arima suddenly incapable of atually killing a ghoul? Or does he just feel bad for the :re gang for getting so little screentime and decided they deserved to live?

Arima is clearly a bleeding heart.
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Apr 2, 2016 6:44 PM

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The art... sometimes it looks like Sui Ishida just dips his dick in ink, takes a viagra and then starts trying to draw with it. Voila~ ARuT0!
Apr 2, 2016 8:10 PM
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Did Yomo just send thunderballs to Arima ? If so, with the 'Sis', we can conclude that Narukami is clearly Hikari's kagune.

Moreover, who do you think will be half-killed ? :D
Apr 2, 2016 8:22 PM

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DAIO said:
The art... sometimes it looks like Sui Ishida just dips his dick in ink, takes a viagra and then starts trying to draw with it. Voila~ ARuT0!


It's the low quality scans. LOL. The raws and HQ scans that get released later are crisp.
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Can someone tell, me what exactly happened in this last page ? Was Yomo saved by Kaneki or what ?


Someone said that it was Arata and not Kaneki..


It was definitely Kaneki, had his glove and everything.
Apr 3, 2016 1:00 AM

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I don't think I've ever marked out for a Kaneki appearance than I have seeing that last page.
Apr 3, 2016 1:52 AM

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Kaneki <3

I guess Arima might be using Yomo's sister's kagune...
Apr 3, 2016 1:53 AM
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Yo! Yomo with that thunderbolt attack! I dont see any problems with the flashbackS, although i admit the Yomo, Kirishima family stole the spot light a bit this arc was supposed to be about the best girl rescue operation. But its not that bad i mean really dont give a shit about the Rue island and Mutsuki. And Renji Yomo is one of the oldest character in TG but hes been always so mysterious so its nice to know his story. And Damn! Im really hating Arima now. After killing hikari no Hes trying to kill the Kirishima siblings using their own mother and Yomo's beloved onee-chan thats just evil but thank Ishida Yomo has been spared for now with Kaneki jumping in like a badass and using his Kagune to shield Yomo. I cant wait to see the showdown between the Reapers of CCG next chapter hopefully Touka wont beat the shit out of Kaneki this time and waut till the arc is over to beat soee sense into him and Hinami.
Apr 3, 2016 3:05 AM

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Arima vs Kaneki is real *_*
Apr 3, 2016 3:31 AM

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Good Chapter.
Next time: Kaneki VS Arima
Super Awesome !!
Apr 3, 2016 6:17 AM
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can some1 tell me if kaneki used the kakuja at the end ? and if so, we all know Eto gave it to him, so is eto now without her powers because all of her rc cells transferd to kaneki ?
Apr 3, 2016 6:34 AM

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Arima is too op and i feel like he should die(no offense to arima fans)cuz hes just cockblocking everything. Either that or Kaneki will die trying to save these guys once again falling to arima.

o.o
Apr 3, 2016 8:57 AM

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GODJAZZAR said:
can some1 tell me if kaneki used the kakuja at the end ? and if so, we all know Eto gave it to him, so is eto now without her powers because all of her rc cells transferd to kaneki ?


I dont think that was a kagune I think its the shield quinque belonging to one of the members of squad 0 ayato killed last chapter (likely lying on the floor). im only basing this on the shape and the fact no kagune is coming out of kens back so It might be a quinque dual between arima and kaneki next chapter.
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AleksXPO said:
NeverStrikes said:
Can someone tell, me what exactly happened in this last page ? Was Yomo saved by Kaneki or what ?


Someone said that it was Arata and not Kaneki..


Well, no. It was Kaneki that jumped in front of Yomo to prevent Arima's attack. How the hell does Arata come up in all of this?

Arata is either being farmed or he's dead.
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I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with the flashbacks in this chapter. What other chapter would they fit in? Note that this chapter parallels to Chapter 71 of TG from Ayato's/Touka's POV.

Arima is just too OP to be human. Ishida better have an explanation to support this because his cockblockery is ridiculous.

I'm anticipating the following fights:
1) Kaneki vs Arima (as if it isn't obvious enough)
2) Hoji vs Tatara
3) Hinami vs Akira
4) Akira vs Seidou
5) The Qs vs Torso
Apr 3, 2016 9:54 AM

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Arima is too op and i feel like he should die(no offense to arima fans)cuz hes just cockblocking everything. Either that or Kaneki will die trying to save these guys once again falling to arima.

o.o


Kaneki is planning to die by Arima's hand because only this way can he die in style (so he believes). Hopefully his will will change and Kaneki doesn't dive head first into suicide.
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Exhalant said:
GreenKouhai said:
Arima is too op and i feel like he should die(no offense to arima fans)cuz hes just cockblocking everything. Either that or Kaneki will die trying to save these guys once again falling to arima.

o.o


Kaneki is planning to die by Arima's hand because only this way can he die in style (so he believes). Hopefully his will will change and Kaneki doesn't dive head first into suicide.


I believe so too, Kaneki's planning to sacrifice himself to protect the others but i don't think the author will kill kaneki off right here. This isnt akame ga kiru or anything like that. Unless y'know kaneki gets that plot armor and starts turning supersaiyan 5 to become super strong. (but arima too op anyways that wouldn't even matter. whats plot armor to arima)
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GreenKouhai said:
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Kaneki is planning to die by Arima's hand because only this way can he die in style (so he believes). Hopefully his will will change and Kaneki doesn't dive head first into suicide.


I believe so too, Kaneki's planning to sacrifice himself to protect the others but i don't think the author will kill kaneki off right here. This isnt akame ga kiru or anything like that. Unless y'know kaneki gets that plot armor and starts turning supersaiyan 5 to become super strong. (but arima too op anyways that wouldn't even matter. whats plot armor to arima)

Well the problem with Arima is as you said-too OP. So no matter how Arima gets taken out it's going to seem unbelievable, so it's a bit reminiscent of Madara from Naruto.
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The face Furuta makes is priceless, but the chapter quickly changed from funny to sad. Damn cant somebody just kill that bastard Arima?

The only thing that can (and will) kill Arima is a desease.

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As i really don't care about Touka, Ayato and Yomo i really can't say i loved this chapter, but if i have to be honest i think it was a good one. Yomo backstory is sad, but it seems that he will find his peace soon. As i (and everyone) predicted Kaneki came to save the crew just in time, i can't wait to see next chapter's figth between Kaneki and Arima. And maybe flashback about them or Furuta doing something Furuta like.


P.S: Man, that Arata was balls crazy
Apr 3, 2016 5:04 PM

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Thought it was ayato making the save at first but it's hard to tell really from what I seen anyway. The glove just looks like a shaded hand. Can't imagine Kaneki getting there so soon after fighting Furuta.
As for the flash backs they were cool. Arata seemed to parallel kaneki quite a bit. Went a bit mad after losing someone he loved and so started cannibalising to get stronger to protect those who remained and got taken down by the CCG as a result.
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Everything's set up so nicely for Kaneki to win:
Arima going blind, Narukami breaking, Eto foreshadowing it, a bunch of strong ghouls backing him up...
I just hope Arima and Furuta don't kill anyone before he finishes the job.
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I am hyped about the Kaneki vs Arima fight, but I totally saw it coming. If you go back and read chapter 71 from the first series, then you realize that it parallels this chapter. So I knew Kaneki was going to save someone this chapter. In the first series it was a Touka vs Ayato fight, then flashbacks, then Kaneki saving Touka. This time around it was Touka, Ayato, and Yomo vs Arima, then flashbacks, then Kaneki saving Yomo. He really saved all of them because they were all about to be killed by Arima.
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Thought it was ayato making the save at first but it's hard to tell really from what I seen anyway. The glove just looks like a shaded hand. Can't imagine Kaneki getting there so soon after fighting Furuta.
As for the flash backs they were cool. Arata seemed to parallel kaneki quite a bit. Went a bit mad after losing someone he loved and so started cannibalising to get stronger to protect those who remained and got taken down by the CCG as a result.


Arata and Kaneki parallel each other quite a bit. First off, they look very very similar and there is the fact they act the same. He perfectly resembles Touka's father, no wonder she likes him. Touka also perfectly resembles her mother, so they pretty much look and act the same as Arata and Hikari. Also this panel really symbolizes a lot.
http://40.media.tumblr.com/8be5cdd40b38102443ce297dbcc0d140/tumblr_inline_nmcg9o1F3g1tre0n0_500.png
"Both father and insects are weak." Well Arata's kakuja looked kind of like an insect and Kaneki was a centipede (insect). Both of them were viewed as weak and cannibalized to get stronger and protect loved ones.
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lol do you guys really think that Arima will die against these dudes?
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Danggit kaneki yomo was ready to go! You broke his resolve!
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lol do you guys really think that Arima will die against these dudes?

Not sure if he'll die, but he should at least be defeated... if he doesn't the plot won't move forward.
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lol do you guys really think that Arima will die against these dudes?

Not sure if he'll die, but he should at least be defeated... if he doesn't the plot won't move forward.

I can't see Arima losing, I can't even imagine the scene.

He'll just be ordered to retire by V.
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Kvothe51 said:
Why is Arima suddenly incapable of atually killing a ghoul? Or does he just feel bad for the :re gang for getting so little screentime and decided they deserved to live?

Yeah, the way he handled Shachi much faster and easier does raise an eyebrow. Sure, there are multiple ghouls with decent strength around now, but still, it is odd.
uh oh!
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mertsi said:
Kvothe51 said:
Why is Arima suddenly incapable of atually killing a ghoul? Or does he just feel bad for the :re gang for getting so little screentime and decided they deserved to live?

Yeah, the way he handled Shachi much faster and easier does raise an eyebrow. Sure, there are multiple ghouls with decent strength around now, but still, it is odd.

Shachi lost because he forgot to wear his plot armor unlike the kirishima siblings.
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Had fun reading those complains about the pace. Ishida is making these people so mad.
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Shachi lost because he forgot to wear his plot armor unlike the kirishima siblings.

I wouldn't call it plot armor just yet. Arima could be holding back for a reason.
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I am also confused with ending of this chapter .
It looks like Kankei but it looks like Arata.
Plus the ending discription says " against the reaper" meaning one
Not saying "a fight versus the reapers"
Don't know it f it's a translation error .
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Had fun reading those complains about the pace. Ishida is making these people so mad.


I think the pacing is good .
I get more suspense with the cliffhangers.
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Wait so if Yomo has a thunder like kagune, then why do I remember him having a kagune like Touka and Ayato's? Is he a hydrid like Hinami?
                                                     
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Wait so if Yomo has a thunder like kagune, then why do I remember him having a kagune like Touka and Ayato's? Is he a hydrid like Hinami?

He's not a hybrid. The lightning bolts are created by his Ukaku kagune(the "wings").
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Shachi lost because he forgot to wear his plot armor unlike the kirishima siblings.

I wouldn't call it plot armor just yet. Arima could be holding back for a reason.


I agree with z4K. It is blatant plot armor, and it's nauseating. There are only so many shameless asspulls I can take before I have to call BS. We already know Ishida has no (apparent) plans of killing off the Kirishimas, so forcing them into the plot with their family drama against Arima is beyond stupid. They should be dead. All three of them.

Wasn't it lovely how Touka (her and Yomo's out of the blue presence here is contrived enough as it is) managed to pull Ayato away from Narukami's lightning seconds before he was fried?

Wasn't it awesome how just before Ayato was about to sliced to death with Narukami, Yomo used Shunpo and jumped in front of the attack despite being nowhere in the general fucking area on a straight narrow platform? Wasn't it amazing how his arms sustained zero damage when Eto's kakuja arm was cut instantly?

Wasn't the "Gate 3 is opened" timing impeccable, just so they can all escape certain death from Arima?

Wasn't it incredible how Touka cannot even sacrifice herself correctly?

Wasn't it awe-inspiring when just before Arima was going to deliver the deathblow to Yomo, literally fucking centimeters above his head - Ayato magically appears in between him and the attack to block it?

Wasn't it cool that as soon as Arima effortlessly knocked Touka and Ayato the floor, moments from being finished off, Yomo gets a shounen-tier power boost because "muh hope", "muh sista", "muh blood", and manages to distract Arima? Whoopey!

And wasn't it mindblowing when Kaneki appeared via instant transmission and blocked Arima's attack from killing Yomo, when the lightning was literally breathing on his face just a page before?

Is Ishida getting writing advice from Kubo? There have been more asspulled last minute saves in the last 3 chapters than the entirety of part 1. The only way Ishida can "fix" this for me is if the Kirishimas fuck off with Hinami after their little forced reunion so I can enjoy the Kaneki vs Arima rematch in peace. Their presence is seriously ruining this for me.
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Is Ishida getting writing advice from Kubo? There have been more asspulled last minute saves in the last 3 chapters than the entirety of part 1. The only way Ishida can "fix" this for me is if the Kirishimas fuck off with Hinami after their little forced reunion so I can enjoy the Kaneki vs Arima rematch in peace. Their presence is seriously ruining this for me.

But wise old Touka's not done with "slapping" some sense into Kaneki yet. :^)

Jokes aside I guess the reason Ishida shoehorned them were for the sake of "muh parallel", a way to make sure Hinami escapes safely and to weaken Arima by damaging Narukami. The last bit annoys me a lot since I didn't want Arima to be handicapped before his fight with Kaneki.
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But wise old Touka's not done with "slapping" some sense into Kaneki yet. :^)


There is little to nothing Ishida can do that would make me ever consider dropping this manga; I am too deep into this and there is no swimming out. But this would deal a traumatic blow towards my passion for the series. I refuse to believe a random ghoul chick he knew for 1 month and 3 days about 3-4 years ago can save him with a "slap": especially after the catastrophic failure of her last attempt. It also proves she has not developed since part 1 if this is still her approach. "Hitting" Kaneki is not the correct way to "save" him: it is the reason he is suicidal in the first place.

You have no idea how happy it made me that Hinami slapped Kaneki that very chapter and Kaneki proceeded to immediately think about Arima killing him. No effect. There was no way this wasn't intentional on Ishida's part and I hope he follows through with not going this abject terrible route. If anyone singlehandedly brings Kaneki to his senses that is not Hide, I will definitely lose some respect for Ishida as a writer.

The last bit annoys me a lot since I didn't want Arima to be handicapped before his fight with Kaneki.


I was complaining about this over the weekend too, actually. If Kaneki cannot defeat Arima without a handicap, then what is the point? Honestly, this forced Kirishima drama is somehow desecrating my most anticipated battle ever in the series. Luckily Narukami is still functional, but if Kaneki keeps up the pressure, it is bound to shatter. I sincerely hope Ishida does not do anything else questionable during this battle. Hopefully Kaneki's desire to die by Arima's hand balances it out. Even so, I feel there is a great chance Arima is going to hold back and be highly hesitant to kill him.
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Ishida should seriously consider 'fixing' the manga for whiners who virtually contributes zero cent to his revenue.
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ma103 said:
Ishida should seriously consider 'fixing' the manga for whiners who virtually contributes zero cent to his revenue.


To be fair, you can't be sure whether or not the ''whiners'' have actually purchased any volumes or the calendar. I'll admit though that the amount of people who are complaining are probably the vocal minority, considering that for some reason a lot of people actually like Touka.
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I buy all the volumes and I'm serious.
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Ishida should seriously consider 'fixing' the manga for whiners who virtually contributes zero cent to his revenue.


To be fair, you can't be sure whether or not the ''whiners'' have actually purchased any volumes or the calendar. I'll admit though that the amount of people who are complaining are probably the vocal minority, considering that for some reason a lot of people actually like Touka.


Sorry my wording was bad. Just a little confused why the reception for the pace is either too fast or too slow. There is no perfect pacing to leave everyone satisfied. Not sure if their dislike for Touka is the main reason. Maybe chapter sure feel slow if your hated character is making appearances throughout the whole chapter? Why not just skip the pages she's in. Touka and co won't last long against Arima anyway, not even with the Kaneki's help unless somehow they solved the RC suppressant gas issue.
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You have no idea how happy it made me that Hinami slapped Kaneki that very chapter and Kaneki proceeded to immediately think about Arima killing him. No effect. There was no way this wasn't intentional on Ishida's part and I hope he follows through with not going this abject terrible route. If anyone singlehandedly brings Kaneki to his senses that is not Hide, I will definitely lose some respect for Ishida as a writer.



But how can Hide save Kaneki when Hide had the greatest impact for him wanting to kill himself more than anyone else? Touka tired and it did nothing but made him admit that he was wrong, Hinami tried and it did nothing, Hide tried to show him he was worth something and it did not work, nothing work. The exact opposite of what Hide wanted to happen instead is what took place. All it did was make him want to be like Hide and off himself even more.

Hide ”Let me show you that you are worth saving”

Kaneki “Ok then! I should just kill myself when I get the chance so I can be cool just like you “

If you ask me all these characters are wasting their time with him, they all should just leave him to die.

But he has the biggest anti-death flag so far…

What would you propose anyone else do to make Kaneki realize he is worth something?

And if I came off as aggressive that was not my intent, just curious…
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Ishida should seriously consider 'fixing' the manga for whiners who virtually contributes zero cent to his revenue.


Yes. Valid criticisms of egregious plot armor and asspull last minute rescues is "whining." Unlike you, I hold Tokyo Ghoul to a higher standard than a battle shounen.

>zero cents cents to Ishida's earnings.
Just for you, wise ass :^)



But if we are to subscribe to your sophistry, that being the criticism of a reader who contributes to Ishida's earnings is more valid than one who does not: show me your contribution so that I can discern whether or not your opinion supersedes mine in importance. I'll wait :)

There is no perfect pacing to leave everyone satisfied. Not sure if their dislike for Touka is the main reason. Maybe chapter sure feel slow if your hated character is making appearances throughout the whole chapter?


"MUH TOUKA!!!" Will you please stop being a triggered waifufag? Why are you only fixated on Touka when I explicitly argued all three of them, including Yomo and Ayato, should be dead? If not dead, then the loss of a limb or being dangerously close the verge of death due to mortal injures would have sufficed. We do not even get that. Arima all of a sudden just seems he cannot properly exterminate ghouls due to their newfound teleportation powers. I have to suspend my disbelief. I would have given it a pass if they were pit up against any other Special Class not named Arima Kishou. They have literally survived longer Kaneki, Eto, and Shachi. Their plot armor is that just that brazen. And why would I "skip pages" of the story because a character I allegedly "hate" appears? Do you have any idea how ludicrous this is? I do not "hate" Touka; I loathe the fact she and Yomo were arbitrarily forced into this raid with zero foreshadowing and their family drama is hijacking the prison break after 100+ chapters of irrelevance. And what is worse, they are fighting someone who should be able to kill them in seconds, but they cannot even be injured properly because plot armor. Right now, I want all three of them, not just your precious waifu: gone.

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And if I came off as aggressive that was not my intent, just curious…


No, you were quite respectful. No worries. :p

I have disagree with Hide having "greatest impact for him wanting to kill himself more than anyone else." His mother is the catalyst for that. If you read carefully, Kaneki is perverting the reasoning for Hide's sacrifice and tailoring it to fit his suicidal ideology. It is more obvious in the raws, but Ishida overlaps the "For someone else" over ("in a cool way") - which is in smaller text and overlaps "I want to risk my life" over ("I want to die."): verbatim ch. 53. It is true he wants to sacrifice himself, but he is not doing it for the same reasons as Hide: it is nothing more than a childish self serving desire at the expense of everyone who cares for him.

That said, I also believe Hide's "death" is playing a large contribution to his present mindset.



Having lost the only long lasting "emotional support" in his life, even if Hide wanted him to live, I think it's quite natural this would make the idea of dying far more appealing to Kaneki.

I do not know exactly what it would take for Kaneki to come to his senses. But his best friend who he has known for most of his life and was his true only support - is the only person who can save him singlehandedly in the context of good writing. Touka's slap and "muh wisdom" is the absolutely worst thing Ishida can possibly do. I don't really care if Touka plays a role in saving him; Kaneki needs support from virtually everyone. But I draw a line at her being some one of a kind magic cure despite barely knowing him. I also argue Kaneki requires additional life experience and introspection before he can properly develop; like when he realized seeking power singlemindedly was a danger to him and those important to him in the Kanou lab raid. We will have to wait and see, but I will hold up faith Ishida executes in a believable way consistent with his past writing: barring the last handful of plot armor chapters.
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