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Mar 26, 2016 11:23 PM
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Meh

On to chapter 71 woooooooooooo
Mar 27, 2016 12:35 AM
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You know what would be the most annoying thing for Kaneki.

He fights Arima thinking he'd lose to him.
Instead, Kaneki beats him.

I'm thinking it's a possibility due to the fight happening against Arima now and the fact that they are possibly weakening him.
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I think it's also possible Kaneki will go to face Arima and instead will try to save Touka and the others and the only way to do this is to kill Arima!

Either way, it's very unlikely everything will go the way Kaneki wants.
Mar 27, 2016 12:58 AM

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I think Yomo is strong enough to hold Arima back.
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Gilzy said:
I think Yomo is strong enough to hold Arima back.

Not even Eto, the strongest Ghoul so far alongside Yoshimura, was enough to hold him back js

Still, I want Yomo to live, someone rescue him.
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Furuta basically trolled throughout the fight, i do not understand how anyone could hate a character like ( the tooth scene is amazing LOL) . I think that he did it only to make pass kaneki while not losing the coverage with the CCG and maybe with V. Yomo certainly will not die like that and if he does continue the figth it's either a total massacre or a chance for Kaneki to save everyone. Poor Ayato, he fougth with investigator who used his parents as a quinque. I wonder when we're gonna switch off to Rue Island, i want to see Ui and Juuzou!

P.S: SOMEONE, ANYBODY MAKES A SCREENSHOT OF FURUTA TAKING BACK HIS TOOTH
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Too bad Furuta didn't die. The fight was fun but i finally wanted to see Kaneki starting to kill the shit out of one of the clowns. Oh well, i can wait a lil more for that.

Really hope that Yomo can get out of that situation. I was waiting to get more info about his interesting character and don't it to end yet.
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But i dont understand, if Ayato is older than Touka, why did Touka born first? maybe Ayato and Touka are only brothers by his father.
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But i dont understand, if Ayato is older than Touka, why did Touka born first? maybe Ayato and Touka are only brothers by his father.


Ayato isn't older than Touka.
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But i dont understand, if Ayato is older than Touka, why did Touka born first? maybe Ayato and Touka are only brothers by his father.


Ayato isn't older than Touka.


oh my god rly?
All this years cheated.
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Mar 27, 2016 4:43 AM
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Has been stated that Touka and Ayato knew about their relationship with Yomo? It will be real tragedy if the man died without being acknowledged.
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Loved the part where Hinami put Furata down :)

Yomo being revealed as Touka's uncle... can't believe I didn't figure it out. Please Ishida don't kill of Yomo like this.
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I can't believe Furuta would pull out his ultimate move and then be cheated out of his win like that. Kaneki got lucky this time around.
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Yomo is probably not dead. We've already established that Ghouls can take a Quinque to the face and be fine afterwards

Besides that, the flashback in this chapter is some real lazy-ass character development.
It's like "Oh hey, here's this character we've literally done nothing with. How do we make readers sympathize with him? I know, make him her fucking uncle, that'll work."
It's about as stupid a plot point as Kaneki's mom having abused him.
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Furuta only fight Kaneki because he is an investigator, he most likely don't care if Kaneki get through but there are cameras so he need to pretend to do his job.

I have a feeling though that Furuta gonna back pay Hinami for that attack. Thumb attack!
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Evangeliman said:
Yomo is probably not dead. We've already established that Ghouls can take a Quinque to the face and be fine afterwards

Besides that, the flashback in this chapter is some real lazy-ass character development.
It's like "Oh hey, here's this character we've literally done nothing with. How do we make readers sympathize with him? I know, make him her fucking uncle, that'll work."
It's about as stupid a plot point as Kaneki's mom having abused him.


Ahhh ... hmmm ... Ishida already hinted that Yomo was Touka and Ayato's uncle:
(Man, the first page of the topic is full of these images)
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haunter_ex said:
Evangeliman said:
Yomo is probably not dead. We've already established that Ghouls can take a Quinque to the face and be fine afterwards

Besides that, the flashback in this chapter is some real lazy-ass character development.
It's like "Oh hey, here's this character we've literally done nothing with. How do we make readers sympathize with him? I know, make him her fucking uncle, that'll work."
It's about as stupid a plot point as Kaneki's mom having abused him.


Ahhh ... hmmm ... Ishida already hinted that Yomo was Touka and Ayato's uncle:
(Man, the first page of the topic is full of these images)


All that tell us is that Arima killed his sister. It doesn't hint at all that he is Touka's uncle.
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Evangeliman said:
haunter_ex said:


Ahhh ... hmmm ... Ishida already hinted that Yomo was Touka and Ayato's uncle:
(Man, the first page of the topic is full of these images)


All that tell us is that Arima killed his sister. It doesn't hint at all that he is Touka's uncle.


Hmmm... let's go:
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haunter_ex said:
Evangeliman said:


All that tell us is that Arima killed his sister. It doesn't hint at all that he is Touka's uncle.


Hmmm... let's go:


That's literally the scene, from this chapter, that I was just criticizing. It's poorly timed, lazy exposition
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Evangeliman said:
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Hmmm... let's go:


That's literally the scene, from this chapter, that I was just criticizing. It's poorly timed, lazy exposition


Well, if you can not join tips or not to see the obvious it is because you do not want ...
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Evangeliman said:
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Hmmm... let's go:


That's literally the scene, from this chapter, that I was just criticizing. It's poorly timed, lazy exposition

I won't post every chapter pic to prove that, I'll just say this:

You can see Touka and Ayato's mom in Chapter 71 while Yomo's sister in 112.
Both Touka and Ayato's sister used to scare their brothers (Ayato and Yomo) with bugs, Arata also says to Touka that she's identical to her mom (after the bugs scene) - all this in Chapter 70 -

In Chapter 113 we can see Yomo's "Kagune Storm" while in 72 Ayato's one and they are the same.




Eto states how Ayato likes High Places (don't remember the Chapter though), Uta did the same with Yomo in Chapter 111.



1. I forgot some hints for sure but this is enough.
2. Stop discussing about this, it's pretty clear that this isn't a last-minute plot twist.
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Mar 27, 2016 9:46 AM

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All you have to do is look back at the conversations, panels, family structures, and the consistency of the chronological order between the panels to learn that Yomo is Touka's uncle.
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Any explanation for the chapter's title? "Thunder Rabbit"?? I thought Ayato was going wild.
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The face Furuta makes is priceless, but the chapter quickly changed from funny to sad. Damn cant somebody just kill that bastard Arima?
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The face Furuta makes is priceless, but the chapter quickly changed from funny to sad. Damn cant somebody just kill that bastard Arima?

The only thing that can (and will) kill Arima is a desease.
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Any explanation for the chapter's title? "Thunder Rabbit"?? I thought Ayato was going wild.


It's because there was a storm outside. We saw it on the roof of Cochlea. And in the clouds, the thunder formed a rabbit.
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Evangeliman said:


That's literally the scene, from this chapter, that I was just criticizing. It's poorly timed, lazy exposition

I won't post every chapter pic to prove that, I'll just say this:

You can see Touka and Ayato's mom in Chapter 71 while Yomo's sister in 112.
Both Touka and Ayato's sister used to scare their brothers (Ayato and Yomo) with bugs, Arata also says to Touka that she's identical to her mom (after the bugs scene) - all this in Chapter 70 -

In Chapter 113 we can see Yomo's "Kagune Storm" while in 72 Ayato's one and they are the same.




Eto states how Ayato likes High Places (don't remember the Chapter though), Uta did the same with Yomo in Chapter 111.



1. I forgot some hints for sure but this is enough.
2. Stop discussing about this, it's pretty clear that this isn't a last-minute plot twist.


1. It's not really evidence that 2 characters with the same kagune, doing the same attack, drawn by the same artist would look similar

2. Because 2 people like high places they must be related? That's fucking stupid

3. Bugs are a very consistent symbol throughout the series. Their appearance suggests literally nothing.

4. Arata saying Touka is like her mom suggest literally nothing except HE KNEW HER MOM.

It's clearly a very last minute plot twist, and a very poorly implemented one at that.
Have fun grasping at those straws m8
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haunter_ex said:
Evangeliman said:


That's literally the scene, from this chapter, that I was just criticizing. It's poorly timed, lazy exposition


Well, if you can not join tips or not to see the obvious it is because you do not want ...


I am not the one who thinks that the panel you posted, which literally only talks about his sister being killed, somehow points to him being Touka's uncle. Please, enlighten me, if such a connection exists.
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She also calls him uncle, check the chapter when Sasaki went to :re for the first time, when Yomo sat at his table.

Also, not many people saw the calendar, but Yomo adresses Touka as his niece and she adresses him as her uncle. Not to mention what was already said above.
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She also calls him uncle, check the chapter when Sasaki went to :re for the first time, when Yomo sat at his table.

Also, not many people saw the calendar, but Yomo adresses Touka as his niece and she adresses him as her uncle. Not to mention what was already said above.


That is not the first time they go to ;re. That would be chapter 9, in which the exact line of dialogue is "How many times do I have to tell you to greet our customers?"


Then, in chapter 10, Touka says "Brother, what did you do? The customers will run away!"


In short, you're full of bullshit.
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All you have to do is look back at the conversations, panels, family structures, and the consistency of the chronological order between the panels to learn that Yomo is Touka's uncle.


Since when the fuck does 2 characters from Takatsuki Sen's novels being Uncle and Nephew have ANYTHING to do with Kirishima family relationships?
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Kaneki looking on like a proud big brother after Hinami helped out. She's certainly all grown up.
Hope Yomo isn't dead. We need to see him in a good fight first before he dies. I feel like there is such an aura about him and people have built him up in our minds that he needs to at least dent the Arima armour.
Furuta?... No chance, not that easily disposed anyway.
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Look ishida, this is what happen when you don't spoon feed. Just get Touka to properly address her uncle right from the start next time. Screw symbolism and foreshadowing.
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Look ishida, this is what happen when you don't spoon feed. Just get Touka to properly address her uncle right from the start next time. Screw symbolism and foreshadowing.


Ya mind pointin some of that out, or ya just gonna assume it's there?
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Gilzy said:
I think Yomo is strong enough to hold Arima back.

Not even Eto, the strongest Ghoul so far alongside Yoshimura, was enough to hold him back js

Still, I want Yomo to live, someone rescue him.


Hold him back for the siblings to escape, I think Yomo is strong enough to do that.

Please don't quote me next week when we see Yomo's head on the floor
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How can it be a plot twist when there were so many theories that Touka's mom was Yomo's sister...

@Evangeliman chapter 70/71 then read the yomo flashback. You can clearly see that the person from chapter 71 page 21 looks exactly like yomo's sister. + the whole insect things that somehow you think it was put in the manga for fun and not for a reason. You're adorable tho.
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Gilzy said:
Sleigh2Bells said:

Not even Eto, the strongest Ghoul so far alongside Yoshimura, was enough to hold him back js

Still, I want Yomo to live, someone rescue him.


Hold him back for the siblings to escape, I think Yomo is strong enough to do that.

Please don't quote me next week when we see Yomo's head on the floor

I hope it won't be necessary.
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I like Furuta. He kind of brings back Shuu's charisma before :re.

I hope Yomo is OK. It is kind of cute how she tried to protect him and he protected her.
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I am not the one who thinks that the panel you posted, which literally only talks about his sister being killed, somehow points to him being Touka's uncle. Please, enlighten me, if such a connection exists.

Here you go mach 20 speedreader. Thankfully someone compiled most of the panels together, which shows the similarities between Yomo, his sister and the Kirishima siblings, for those who are incapable of connecting the dots.



You should also note how Arata points out that Touka looks exactly like her mother in the prequel.



Then we see Hikari in Touka's flashback in chapter 71



Who looks pretty much the same as Yomo's sister in his flashback


Arata was Koukaku type ghoul which means Touka and Ayato's mother must have been an Ukaku since ghouls inherit similar type kagune from their parents. If that's the case then Yomo is definitely related to them since his kagune closely resembles Ayato's and because her sister was an Ukaku type ghoul.

For comparison's sake, here's Ayato's kagune.



And here's Yomo's kagune.



Oh and let's not forget some of the other parallels such as Uta and Eto pointing out how both Yomo and Ayato likes high places which further hints at the idea that Yomo might possibly have a connection with the Kirishima siblings.





^ I'm sure all the things above are enough to make you realize how incompetent your reading comprehension skills are but still onto your other statements.

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1. It's not really evidence that 2 characters with the same kagune, doing the same attack, drawn by the same artist would look similar

Not at all mach 20 speedreader. You don't see Irimi or Takizawa doing the same type of attack despite having the same kagune and drawn by the same artist.

2. Because 2 people like high places they must be related? That's fucking stupid

It's called a plot parallel genius. Ishida has done this countless times in the series.

3. Bugs are a very consistent symbol throughout the series. Their appearance suggests literally nothing.

The point was to show how Yomo's sister and Touka are very similar.

4. Arata saying Touka is like her mom suggest literally nothing except HE KNEW HER MOM.

It does because we literally see someone looking exactly like Touka's mom in Yomo's flashback which further proves he's related to them.

It's clearly a very last minute plot twist, and a very poorly implemented one at that.
Have fun grasping at those straws m8

>I can't understand basic concepts and that's Ishida's fault. He should hold me by the hand and whisper his explanation sensually into my ear so that I understand and don't feel stupid.

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Evangeliman said:
ma103 said:
Look ishida, this is what happen when you don't spoon feed. Just get Touka to properly address her uncle right from the start next time. Screw symbolism and foreshadowing.


Ya mind pointin some of that out, or ya just gonna assume it's there?


My points are identical to what the previous posters has pointed out but you choose to remain overly skeptical. If something this obvious isn't believable to you, I wonder which TG's parallelism and symbolism managed to convince you.
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He probably doesn't even believe that Kaneki is the MC because him being in every chapter isn't enough!!11
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Where's Kaneki tho? He didn't show up since chapter 141 right? or am i missing something.... hmm.
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Where's Kaneki tho? He didn't show up since chapter 141 right? or am i missing something.... hmm.


I got a feeling that Kaneki and Haise might the same person but I could be wrong though.
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hard trollin' in the air.
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Z4k said:
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I am not the one who thinks that the panel you posted, which literally only talks about his sister being killed, somehow points to him being Touka's uncle. Please, enlighten me, if such a connection exists.

Here you go mach 20 speedreader. Thankfully someone compiled most of the panels together, which shows the similarities between Yomo, his sister and the Kirishima siblings, for those who are incapable of connecting the dots.



You should also note how Arata points out that Touka looks exactly like her mother in the prequel.



Then we see Hikari in Touka's flashback in chapter 71



Who looks pretty much the same as Yomo's sister in his flashback


Arata was Koukaku type ghoul which means Touka and Ayato's mother must have been an Ukaku since ghouls inherit similar type kagune from their parents. If that's the case then Yomo is definitely related to them since his kagune closely resembles Ayato's and because her sister was an Ukaku type ghoul.

For comparison's sake, here's Ayato's kagune.



And here's Yomo's kagune.



Oh and let's not forget some of the other parallels such as Uta and Eto pointing out how both Yomo and Ayato likes high places which further hints at the idea that Yomo might possibly have a connection with the Kirishima siblings.





^ I'm sure all the things above are enough to make you realize how incompetent your reading comprehension skills are but still onto your other statements.

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1. It's not really evidence that 2 characters with the same kagune, doing the same attack, drawn by the same artist would look similar

Not at all mach 20 speedreader. You don't see Irimi or Takizawa doing the same type of attack despite having the same kagune and drawn by the same artist.

2. Because 2 people like high places they must be related? That's fucking stupid

It's called a plot parallel genius. Ishida has done this countless times in the series.

3. Bugs are a very consistent symbol throughout the series. Their appearance suggests literally nothing.

The point was to show how Yomo's sister and Touka are very similar.

4. Arata saying Touka is like her mom suggest literally nothing except HE KNEW HER MOM.

It does because we literally see someone looking exactly like Touka's mom in Yomo's flashback which further proves he's related to them.

It's clearly a very last minute plot twist, and a very poorly implemented one at that.
Have fun grasping at those straws m8

>I can't understand basic concepts and that's Ishida's fault. He should hold me by the hand and whisper his explanation sensually into my ear so that I understand and don't feel stupid.

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1. They aren't using the same attack. Case in point. Please reread for comprehension. Beyond that, 213 chapters is quite a lot. It's not a stretch to simply say that Ishida reused a previous panel.

2. Then is Eto related to the Kirishimas as well?

3. Not really, no. You can't criticize someone else for being "overly skeptical" and then miss something as large as the consistent insect imagery throughout the series.

4. Arata is Touka's dad. Arata noting she acts like her mom suggests literally nothing. The character designs and art style in Tokyo Ghoul are vague enough that it's difficult to note minute details so I may have actually missed something there, in terms of the flashbacks.

5. The evidence is the dialogue is ridiculous. Do you really think Ishida wrote those lines in such a way that they translated over in nearly but not entirely identical english structuring, or maybe it was done on the translator's part, because the two languages are structured completely fucking differently.

However, beyond that the only real evidence we need of this being lazy writing is the placement in the plot. I don't see any reason this plot point had to be placed in this spot. It would've worked fine literally anywhere in the previous 212 chapters. You can claim artistic subtlety, but artistic subtlety without any purpose is just pointless convolution.
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I'm not the kind of person who uses to offend others but in this particular case I can state that you are an idiot.

From now on I'll ignore you, hope that everyone else will follow the same path.

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Holy shit, you've been proven wrong on multiple accounts and you still won't back down. You're by far the most toxic person that these discussions have seen in a while, and that's hard to achieve considering the amount of cynicism and rudeness here. Congratulations.
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How can it be a plot twist when there were so many theories that Touka's mom was Yomo's sister...

@Evangeliman chapter 70/71 then read the yomo flashback. You can clearly see that the person from chapter 71 page 21 looks exactly like yomo's sister. + the whole insect things that somehow you think it was put in the manga for fun and not for a reason. You're adorable tho.


Alright you fucking autist, first of all, I clearly stated that the insect imagery in the series was consistent. It's not there for fun, it's there for a clear and well- documented artistic purpose. Second, in the Yomo flashback, his sister looks like this


That's literally the vaguest possible character design. There are plenty of people with brightish short hair in this series.

It could just as easily be Eto


Or fucking Ukina
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Holy shit, you've been proven wrong on multiple accounts and you still won't back down. You're by far the most toxic person that these discussions have seen in a while, and that's hard to achieve considering the amount of cynicism and rudeness here. Congratulations.


No, I have been disputed on multiple accounts by people entirely too dogmatic in their beliefs who are incapable of comprehending anything I say and just assume it is wrong.

As for being toxic, I can't really argue with you there.
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Yomo's sister possibly being Eto is the funniest thing I've ever heard I swear.
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Yeah no thanks. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with an autist who feigns ignorance and tries to move the goalpost when he's incapable of refuting the points.
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