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evennire said: xkinn123 said: Remember the last time MC-kun straight out confessed before even half of the show ended? At least in the last 5 years? yeah, me neither. Golden time guys For the genre, yes. Outside the genre: Joukamachi no Dandelion (last season) Ore monogatari (the season prior to that) and before that you have Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii, Nagi no Asukara, White Album 2, Servant X Service, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, Sukitte ii na yo, Kokoro Connect, Oda Nobuna no Yabou, Natsuyuki Rendezvous, Sakamichi no Apollon, etc. all of which aired in or after 2012 (that is well within the last 3 years.) where MC-kun confessed before half the run of the show and I don't even see half the airing shows each season. |
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shanimebib said: For the genre, yes. That is the main point though. A lot of people, such as myself, who are mainly action-fantasy buffs have been dying for a decent relationship in our genre for fucking years. It rarely occurs. The last one I've seen in the past 5 years is SAO and that's it. Yeah, if you want progressive relationships you can go to other genres, of course, but within this genre I care the most about, proper relationships are slim to none. Rakudai might finally deliver that. I mean, it has flaws, like the overuse of ecchi by Silver Link, but it is something. I'm pining for the day someone makes a modern quality action-fantasy with a solid romance and little to no fan-service. |
RealityRushOct 27, 2015 5:54 AM
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shanimebib said: Half of those are shoujo,rest of them does have confession but no couples till the very end,Rest is Ore Monogatari and Golden Time...evennire said: Golden time guys For the genre, yes. Outside the genre: Joukamachi no Dandelion (last season) Ore monogatari (the season prior to that) and before that you have Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii, Nagi no Asukara, White Album 2, Servant X Service, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, Sukitte ii na yo, Kokoro Connect, Oda Nobuna no Yabou, Natsuyuki Rendezvous, Sakamichi no Apollon, etc. all of which aired in or after 2012 (that is well within the last 3 years.) where MC-kun confessed before half the run of the show and I don't even see half the airing shows each season. |
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Drake1000 said: Same band sing, then quite similar.Generic bully villain gets rekt by generic MC, yay. Imouto gets btfo and newly introduced experienced sword magic babble girl lusts for MC's cock. Just get a room already lmao, this tsundere is so thirsty. The ED song reminds of an ED of Code Geass btw. PS: Generic this, generic that... maaah, you didn't know that "nothing original under the sun", right. Hmm, onii-chan fed up about you, get lost for awhile you lazy useless imouto... :)) |
| I really love this Episode! Now i want to read the novel as well~ Oh god and Ikkis fight was so awesome! Glad that Kirihara got rekt -.- |
| Really liking the series so far! I find the MC and Stella much more likeable than characters usually in this kind of genre. Episode 4 and we already got this much development? Awesome! |
LoneWizard said: shanimebib said: Half of those are shoujo,rest of them does have confession but no couples till the very end,Rest is Ore Monogatari and Golden Time...For the genre, yes. Outside the genre: Joukamachi no Dandelion (last season) Ore monogatari (the season prior to that) and before that you have Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii, Nagi no Asukara, White Album 2, Servant X Service, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, Sukitte ii na yo, Kokoro Connect, Oda Nobuna no Yabou, Natsuyuki Rendezvous, Sakamichi no Apollon, etc. all of which aired in or after 2012 (that is well within the last 3 years.) where MC-kun confessed before half the run of the show and I don't even see half the airing shows each season. By confession he meant confession, acceptation, Ship confirmed in a School, romance, action, magic genre setting which everyone so kindly labels as generic harem. |
frenze12 said: RealityRush said: That is the main point though. A lot of people, such as myself, who are mainly action-fantasy buffs have been dying for a decent relationship in our genre for fucking years. It rarely occurs. The last one I've seen in the past 5 years is SAO and that's it. Yeah, if you want progressive relationships you can go to other genres, of course, but within this genre I care the most about, proper relationships are slim to none. Rakudai might finally deliver that. I mean, it has flaws, like the overuse of ecchi by Silver Link, but it is something. I'm pining for the day someone makes a modern quality action-fantasy with a solid romance and little to no fan-service. I wouldn't really call a setting where any main heroine would fall for a guy because he beats her in a mock battle a meaningfull proper relationship though..., in the end it's still just a ecchi shounen with clichés and the typical harem antics afterall... Except tha tthey clearly established that: 1) she falls more for his goal She can relate to wanting to prove oneself, being stuck int he opposite box. 1) We have seen since first episode that she finds him sexually attractive. |
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frenze12 said: I wouldn't really call a setting where any main heroine would fall for a guy because he beats her in a mock battle a meaningfull proper relationship though..., in the end it's still just a ecchi shounen with clichés and the typical harem antics afterall... Neither would I, but it's the closest I'll get until someone in the anime industry decides to actually attempt a legitimate action-fantasy relationship, which will probably never happen. If Rakudai is all they are willing to give me, then I'm going to give it a fucking lot of god damn leeway, because I have no other options. Same reason Sword Art Online is one of my favourites, because it has an actual relationship in it, or as close to a real one I'm going to get in this genre. One of these days someone will do it right, I don't know when, or how, but one day it'll happen, hopefully while I'm still alive. And I'll watch every god damn chance at it occurring until it does. |
RealityRushOct 27, 2015 3:34 PM
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frenze12 said: I wouldn't really call a setting where any main heroine would fall for a guy because he beats her in a mock battle a meaningfull proper relationship though..., in the end it's still just a ecchi shounen with clichés and the typical harem antics afterall... Except that this is not why? The show explained where the attraction came from: Both are sharing similar pasts in that both have had to overcome significant obstacles and hardship. Both have persevered through it. Both have been able to recognize and value this aspect in the other one, contrary to their experiencences with others. They have similar goals in life which they can pursue together. Or do you seriously believe that Stella is after Ikki due to thirst or because he beat her? Please don't tell me that this is the depth of your insight? |
frenze12 said: Heck,even i find him sexually attractive...Cant blame her..."We have seen since first episode that she finds him sexually attractive" Just like almost every heroine feels in this show. Infact how many females don't think he's attractive? Almost every (important) female in any harem antic related anime thinks the mc is hot. frenze12 said: 1-Having lots of girls around doesn't mean anything,the important thing is how other characters react to those people around themLook at the amount of female heroines in this show and compare to the amount of important male characters beside villians. Notice anything? If that isn't a typical harem antic i don't know anymore... 2-More girls=more money,dont blame someone for wanting more money and fans to make him able to write more about his good story...Lots of great LN,manga added filler females for that reason... |
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| That confession tho, better than I expected. Glad to see that scumbag get rekt by Ikki's skills. Too bad Ikki didn't hurt him more besides from scaring the shit outta him. I hope there are more romantic scenes between Stella and Ikki from now on. |
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Blaize said: That confession tho, better than I expected. Glad to see that scumbag get rekt by Ikki's skills. Too bad Ikki didn't hurt him more besides from scaring the shit outta him. I hope there are more romantic scenes between Stella and Ikki from now on. Yes It will have more romantic scenes, Just wait for the episode 6. |
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skudoops said: ernst said: Did we watch the same episode? Stella discussed that with the other two. No she didn't, she only discussed why he didn't charge head on from the start. His plan never included him using his steroid mode, it was basically waiting defending until he figured out the opponents fighting style. NeoAnkara said: You can see on the episode itself. As Nagi explained he is under a lot of stress even if he himself didn't realize it deep down. After all it's his first official match and the last chance that he can prove himself. Moreover his opponent is also someone who have bad history with him adding another pressure plus Stella who unknowingly add the pressure by placing high expectation of him. I know he was nervous but I'm more so focused on why his initial plan didn't involve the steroid mode from the onset. They discussed that, he's nervous. Remember last episode where MC used Ittou Shura from the very beginning? Stella's saying finish the battle early which means Finishing Blow early = Ittou Shura early. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out one's Alice mentions he's nervous. Besides a regular charge from the beginning is useless considering what happened when MC figured out his location for the 1st time, he used a regular charge, it didn't work. There's no lag when he's activation invisibility for the 1st time in the manga so obviously a regular charge will be avoided. |
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NeoAnkara said: HaXXspetten said: And he really in fact down on the count. You can say that heroic second wind have part in this when he stand up back. Also Ittou Shura remove physical limitation on him and boost his endurance and power. He also have after effect and succumb to injury once more after his skill wear off with extra fatigue on him.That still doesn't make sense to me. If it was just a weak attack which didn't cause a lot of damage, then yeah I could understand it. But regardless of what the numbers may say, the fact of the matter is he evidentially got really badly hurt or he wouldn't have ended up losing that much blood. You're looking at the cause, not the effect. If you get that badly hurt, then you're in trouble. It doesn't matter how or why that injury may have been sustained; you'll still be just as badly hurt They should have made the enemy mention that he's actually toying with the MC and dragging the fight, that's why MC's still alive. E rank in offense is no excuse considering last episode he killed 2 terrorist with those regular arrows (unless they're just unconscious). Also reduce the blood effect specifically the heart organ blow. If we're just focused on fights ep3 is better. |
ernstOct 27, 2015 9:10 PM
| "Why do I always realize it... when I've already lost it..." -Guts, Berserk "Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained." -Gilgamesh, Fate/stay night "We are constantly living in a peaceful world that somebody else won for us. Even if it were only a day of peace, I will be grateful for its value." - Minashiro Tsubaki, FAFNER "Screw you, future me!" -Makise Kurisu, Steins;Gate "We used to show off by waging wars and whatnot." -Watashi, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita "Call me Moses. I'm going to part the sea of students before your eyes." -Moses?, Valvrave "Time is guilty." -AndΕ & Tomoyo, INOU-Battle |
| Next episode title worries me, sounds like a recap. "Experience of the princess" I hope I'm wrong. |
| "Why do I always realize it... when I've already lost it..." -Guts, Berserk "Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained." -Gilgamesh, Fate/stay night "We are constantly living in a peaceful world that somebody else won for us. Even if it were only a day of peace, I will be grateful for its value." - Minashiro Tsubaki, FAFNER "Screw you, future me!" -Makise Kurisu, Steins;Gate "We used to show off by waging wars and whatnot." -Watashi, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita "Call me Moses. I'm going to part the sea of students before your eyes." -Moses?, Valvrave "Time is guilty." -AndΕ & Tomoyo, INOU-Battle |
19Pyro90 said: In this anime they call his skill "perfect vision" but in the fgc it's just known as getting downloaded. Exactly, and people call it talent/hax, when what it is actually experience(hardwork). P.S. Ikki is probably better than Kirihara in Archery too. In next few episodes he started accepted giving lectures to people about different weapons(he learned pretty much all of them to get as much advantage as he can get. He is also the mentor of Shizuku who uses a kodachi). |
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| So Ikki more or less has Eye of the Mind (True)... AWESOME! Great fight scene especially since it looked like he broke the hologram field with his final attack and that ending. Great episode this week. |
| Oh my God, the crowd was heartless... Like, how can you be so freaking inhumane? That takes skills. Like is it really a school? Killing is freaking allowed, injury is a little thing... Stella covering for Ikki awesomely, she is, no doubt, best girl. No contest there. Tsundere done freaking right! And Ikki was really cool there! The ship is already canon, woohoo |
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| after going back and reading the manga chapter, having Kirihara turn the stage into a forest just made this all the more hype. |
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phantom346 said: LoneWizard said: Half of those are shoujo,rest of them does have confession but no couples till the very end,Rest is Ore Monogatari and Golden Time... By confession he meant confession, acceptation, Ship confirmed in a School, romance, action, magic genre setting which everyone so kindly labels as generic harem. Umm, SAO? It had that and it still sucked. So its definitely a good thing, but it can still go shit. |
| Confession in fourth episode!?!? FUCK YEAH!!!! |
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Mentar said: In my opinion the anime doesn't do a very good job of explaining why they both fell for each other than the source material. It's easy to miss.frenze12 said: I wouldn't really call a setting where any main heroine would fall for a guy because he beats her in a mock battle a meaningfull proper relationship though..., in the end it's still just a ecchi shounen with clichés and the typical harem antics afterall... Except that this is not why? The show explained where the attraction came from: Both are sharing similar pasts in that both have had to overcome significant obstacles and hardship. Both have persevered through it. Both have been able to recognize and value this aspect in the other one, contrary to their experiencences with others. They have similar goals in life which they can pursue together. Or do you seriously believe that Stella is after Ikki due to thirst or because he beat her? Please don't tell me that this is the depth of your insight? |
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| best episodes so far... at this rate, the'll go with the format '1 volume per 4 episodes' that means they'll adapt the first three volume.. |
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| EPIC EPIC EPIC! Bestt episode so far! It's just episode 4 and she already told him that she loves him xD And he told her the same, in other animes this would only happen in the last episode :D That beginning too xD Stella was damn hot & cute in this episode, and that motivation for Ikki. |
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| I'm glad the series avoided the typical harem route, I hope I see the two's relationship develop more in the series! Can't wait for the next episode. |
ixarising said: Ithink he means SAO forgot that asuna and kirito awas a couple and became a harem...Seriously,in Season 2 some of the girls openly flirt with Kirito and Asuna doesnt even pout or complain...She doesnt give a fuck...That bothered me a lot tooHuh? What do you mean by harem? |
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| Romantic declarationin the chapter 4? This anime is breaking"the rules"and I like it |
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LoneWizard said: ixarising said: Ithink he means SAO forgot that asuna and kirito awas a couple and became a harem...Seriously,in Season 2 some of the girls openly flirt with Kirito and Asuna doesnt even pout or complain...She doesnt give a fuck...That bothered me a lot tooHuh? What do you mean by harem? Or maybe Asuna knows she's got her man locked up and is comfortable with it? Mature adults in a healthy relationship don't freak out any time their partner is hit on. That's what trust is all about. Heck, I'd take it as a compliment. |
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RealityRush said: I dont know what you mean by "mature adults" because neither Kirito nor Asuna are mature adults but if i must speak from experience irl i am pretty sure 15-25 years old young adults do freak out to some extent...Or maybe Asuna knows she's got her man locked up and is comfortable with it? Mature adults in a healthy relationship don't freak out any time their partner is hit on. That's what trust is all about. Heck, I'd take it as a compliment. frenze12 said: No,i didnt read any side materials,in the anime romantic interactions between Kirito and Asuna were nonexsistent...The only time they went together to a journey Asuna didnt even talk with Kirito while he kept flirting around with other girls...I think you are confusing SAO with DxD. Any flirtation in S 2 was usually done as a joke and Asuna was clearly annoyed by some of them. (specially when you read side materials etc.) While there are multiple girls having feelings for kirito, they all understood that kirito only loved Asuna and respected Asuna enough to not interfere. |
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LoneWizard said: No,i didnt read any side materials,in the anime romantic interactions between Kirito and Asuna were nonexsistent...The only time they went together to a journey Asuna didnt even talk with Kirito while he kept flirting around with other girls...[/quote]While there are multiple girls having feelings for kirito, they all understood that kirito only loved Asuna and respected Asuna enough to not interfere. I don't remember a single "flirting" moment, beyond the tail grab which was more of a joke than flirt. |
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| And this turn into SAO discussion. Sasuga Cavalry sub-forum really lively with all kind of discussion. |
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NeoAnkara said: And this turn into SAO discussion. Sasuga Cavalry sub-forum really lively with all kind of discussion. We're dying for more Rakudai to talk about but no episode 5 yet ;P |
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RealityRush said: Episode 5 won't be that lively. At most it will be 200 post. We will be lively again in episode 6.NeoAnkara said: And this turn into SAO discussion. Sasuga Cavalry sub-forum really lively with all kind of discussion. We're dying for more Rakudai to talk about but no episode 5 yet ;P |
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| Really enjoyed this episode. And at least a pairing I liked happens and it makes me so pleased. |
frenze12 said: Offcourse i saw that scene to and would understand the reason. If that was the case, why were you attributing something extremely oblivious and shallow to the attraction between Ikki and Stella? Why did you misrepresent? It's just not enough to start crushing over it. Nobody asks you to "crush" over it. But if you implicitly berate the show for being trivial and simple, and then give an extremely trivial, simple and _false_ representation, this is a peculiar mix. It rather suggests to me that your own judgment is oblivious and faulty. But as usual such devellopments are helped out by the typical otaku pandering because naivity beats realism afterall. It is _your_ fault for being unable to pick it up. Like I said, your criticism of triviality and your own ability to analyze are at odds. |
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