Mikasa said: ahahahahah, NO! HXH have the lowest percentage of haters compare to another top 10 mal, or even top 50.HxH is winning by a landslide. I add my tri-vote to it. So much hate, none of it deserved. Price of being complex tbough. Gladly accepted tbh. Rather have a smart series with tiny controversy than a dumbed down all-pleaser. http://myanimelist.net/anime/11061/Hunter_x_Hunter_%282011%29/stats they are more vocal because their fans also rant everywhere like you and saying something non logic like HXH is not shounen. JaviKreyn said: ratings is opinion > opinion can't be objective.tragedydesu said: Ratings should be based on objective quality. not taste or enjoyment, because if you enjoy a bad show, it remains a bad show.Sao haters : if you give it more than 4/10 you have a shit taste they cant understand that people enjoy different things |
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JaviKreyn said: tragedydesu said: Sao haters : if you give it more than 4/10 you have a shit taste they cant understand that people enjoy different things Ratings should be based on objective quality. not taste or enjoyment, because if you enjoy a bad show, it remains a bad show. Objective quality is a myth (even the process of setting objectives is subjective). In my opinion, the best we can do is try to figure out whether or not we like an anime, and why we do so. |
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| One Piece- alot of people hate One Piece for.....no reason. HxH has a lot of haters Gintama Haters gonna hate. |
| The whole japanimation community is a hatebase |
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Karadzic said: natusme yuujinchou and mushishi are kinda chill IMHO.The whole japanimation community is a hatebase |
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| SaeKano. Might be a surprising answer if you haven't followed the threads. They're not the "worst" per se, but definitely the most self-defeatist. There are a couple of soap boxers around those parts who make such fools out of themselves I cringe for days - better embarrassment comedy than Watamote. I haven't seen such projection and broadcasted insecurity from any reactionary hate brigade before, so they have a special place in my appendix. Not heart. Appendix. |
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| Definitely Naruto and SAO, though I don't really like Naruto, and I was still an anime noob when I saw SAO, and thought it was the best thing ever. Ah, youth. Jk I'm still practically a noob compared to most of the MAL community. |
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Unyilkdr said: saying Natsume and Mushishi Japanimations is an insult to their greatnessKaradzic said: natusme yuujinchou and mushishi are kinda chill IMHO.The whole japanimation community is a hatebase |
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JaviKreyn said: AttackOnTetris said: Objective quality is a myth (even the process of setting objectives is subjective). In my opinion, the best we can do is try to figure out whether or not we like an anime, and why we do so. No, it's not. You are talking about taste, you can apply that to genres, settings, etc. A show is good when the story and characters are well written, presented developted and executed. Your "objective" system is subjective in 2 areas. The first one being: what it takes for the show to be good. You made your own, personal criteria of what makes a good show. The second one being: everyone will have different opinions with regards to what makes well-written character, as well as good development and execution. It would make more sense to just drop the charade of pretending like you are talking about "objective quality". |
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| basically what you have mentioned.... |
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| SAO, ppl suddenly gets critical with this anime. |
| SAO posts always get hilarious feedback, so SAO. |
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The first one: That's taste, and that doesn't affect quallity. A good show is good regardless you personal taste, if you like it doesn't make it good, if you dislike it does'nt make it bad. If I recall correctly, "a good show is good regardless of your personal taste" is exactly what you were arguing, and repeating it again isn't an argument. In the second one, good writting has nothing to do with opinion, that's insane. If character or story is well written means that it's coherent, you may say that "this character is cruel and I don't like him/her" but it has nothing to do with him/her being well written, if his/her cruelty has a coherent reason and if his/her acts match with established traits, you have a well written character, if a character or story doesn't make sense is BAD. Simply saying something is insane doesn't make it false. Now you're adding another layer to your subjectivity by saying "well written means it's coherent". Well-written can mean many things and is completely subjective, and you have subjectively decided coherence is a criteria needed for well-written characters. I could counter-argue that it's possible to make a character who's incoherence actually furthers the story by adding an air of mystery. Think of the proxies in Ergo Proxy. I think what you mean is "non-contradictory" which is a good start, but it's possible to make a very static character who undergoes no development, and they will satisfy that criteria. Also, you say there is no objective quallity, then what would you prefer a rusty slide that hurts you when you use it, or a shiny and smooth one? The shiny and smooth is objectively better, because serves better the purpouse of a slide. A slide has a clear, intended objective. It's not a medium of art, so this is a pointless comparison, unless you are to argue all anime shares the same objective. |
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hoopla123 said: SAO. |
| To say something original: The people who hate certain anime just because of one scene. (OH MY GOD TWO MALES KISSED, 1/10 DROPPED) A single scene can't break a series if its minor and serves nothing much to the plot. Also, people who hate on Panty and Stocking because of "false advertising". (If you were expecting something among the likes of The Powerpuff Girls when watching a show called "PANTY and Stocking", you need help) In my opinion though, judging people solely based on their interests is fucking stupid. (Unless if their interests can be harmful; Thus why I don't defend pedophiles, or people who want to fuck animals) For example, if someone legitimately likes a show I gave a 3 or lower, I wouldn't bash them SOLELY on that. I judge people on their behavior and their behavior alone. I'd prefer someone to just say they don't like a series I like or vice versa in a calm manner, then to be like "OH YOU LIKE NO GAME NO LIFE? FUCK YOU YOU FILTHY CASUAL!" (I'm using that as an example cause that's the first show that comes to mind when I think of "mainstream" anime I like) |
dboy13 said: sword art online lmao |
| Some of these anime people are posting doesn't even get much hate. |
AttackOnTetris said: laidellent said: You finally came online I see What, did I miss something? There was a bunch of threads about shows ripping off HXH or HXH ripping them off. I can't follow. SAO's haterbase tend to conquer most threads, so they get my vote. |
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| SE Lain; those criticize it being 2deep4u is even barely scratches the surface because they lack the necessary knowledge to read the subtext and references, so their criticism of it rarely goes further than 'pretentious' without even considering the context of the story, which is quite ironic considering the said definition would fits them perfectly. |
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| Clannad for sure most annoying clowns EVER |
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azzuRe said: SE Lain; those criticize it being 2deep4u is even barely scratches the surface because they lack the necessary knowledge to read the subtext and references, so their criticism of it rarely goes further than 'pretentious' without even considering the context of the story, which is quite ironic considering the said definition would fits them perfectly. Most of the fans (at least all I've seen) can't explain what exactly is so deep about it either. |
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niggasniper said: That's me xD. Though I rarely see people bashing Clannad nearly as much as other anime like SAO, Code Geass, LoGH, etc.Clannad for sure most annoying clowns EVER |
| Probably One Piece because majority of the people that hate on it do so without even giving it a chance due to its "ugly art style" or because there's "too many episodes". I know there are plenty of people that are familiar with the series and also still dislike it for other subjective reasons that cause them to blatantly hate on it, but I've lost count of how many times I've seen someone bash on it just because of its art style or concept without even watching or reading it. |
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| Hating on Sword Art Online literally became a joke within the community and it has the least amount of actual criticism to hate ratio which is funny given how easy it would be to provide actual criticism of the show, so it gets my vote. |
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| Anyone who brings up how rectum rumbled a show made them all the time. |
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azzuRe said: its overall story can be described in a simple minimalistic sentence bcoz its plot is that simple.SE Lain; those criticize it being 2deep4u is even barely scratches the surface because they lack the necessary knowledge to read the subtext and references, so their criticism of it rarely goes further than 'pretentious' without even considering the context of the story, which is quite ironic considering the said definition would fits them perfectly. |
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AttackOnTetris said: azzuRe said: SE Lain; those criticize it being 2deep4u is even barely scratches the surface because they lack the necessary knowledge to read the subtext and references, so their criticism of it rarely goes further than 'pretentious' without even considering the context of the story, which is quite ironic considering the said definition would fits them perfectly. Most of the fans (at least all I've seen) can't explain what exactly is so deep about it either. It's simple, I think they simply does not entertain spoon feeding people with things they were not interested with. Would people appreciate you giving a lengthy lecture on existentialism and postmodernism? How about info dumping networking terminology and cybernetics concepts? because those things are highly relevant to construct an thorough analysis about the themes it's trying to portray. And lets be honest, those 'critics' wouldn't want to hear it anyway because of opinions they felt entitled to. It is not a 'oh wow so deep' anime, it is just a simple allegory to the themes of a dystopian cybernetic society by utilizing an old-new concept interplay of being and society. "People only have substance within the memories of other people. And that's why there were all kinds of me. There weren't a lot of me per se, I was just inside all sorts of people, that's all." Lain |
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| The SAO hate-base is annoying yes, but at least they've watched the damn thing. When it comes to the Big 3, especially Naruto, I've seen more than one (quite a lot, in fact) that have not even watched it and still bash it. For all the talk about how Naruto fans are obnoxious, I've seen that it's hate-base is far, far worse. |
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| SAO hater-base obviously. The initial hate for SAO is justified, those who hates it have legit criticism towards the show. However, the hate for SAO has become something mainstream. New fags started shitting on it because it's the cool thing to do, throwing anything they can think of to make the show seems like the worst shit ever made. And those same kids that shitting SAO, actually enjoy other fantasy battle harem bullshit (in an unironically way) |
oreology said: hoopla123 said: SAO. |
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StrawberryRain said: oreology said: Yep. It's still SAO. |
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15poundfish said: It IS minimalisticKaradzic said: No, it can't. You may be able to sum up what happens at the end but there is no way you could sum up all the important plot events in a sentence.its overall story can be described in a simple minimalistic sentence bcoz its plot is that simple. Its story isn't complicated either. The infodump sideways and world explanation is. Yes, I agree that its one way of prophesizing the power of a unitary information highway like the interwebs but the overall plot is simple and that's it |
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azzuRe said: It's simple, I think they simply does not entertain spoon feeding people with things they were not interested with. Would people appreciate you giving a lengthy lecture on existentialism and postmodernism? How about info dumping networking terminology and cybernetics concepts? because those things are highly relevant to construct an thorough analysis about the themes it's trying to portray. And lets be honest, those 'critics' wouldn't want to hear it anyway because of opinions they felt entitled to. It is not a 'oh wow so deep' anime, it is just a simple allegory to the themes of a dystopian cybernetic society by utilizing an old-new concept interplay of being and society. "People only have substance within the memories of other people. And that's why there were all kinds of me. There weren't a lot of me per se, I was just inside all sorts of people, that's all." Lain I'll try again. I'm not looking for background information on where SEL stole its concepts from. I'm looking for what actual questions SEL posed, and how that was profound and deep. It's been a long time since I watched it, but as I remember, the concept of the Wired and God were relatively simple abstractions, and SEL used them to tell a story: one where we look inside the mind of a person whose state of existence is not clearly defined, and attempts to figure that out. I guess it doesn't help that I wasted a lot of time from when I was a weird, little kid thinking about if I was God, what God was, etc, and I feel like it's an area where I am perhaps a bit too comfortable in, and view as sort of a philosophical dead-end, to be completely blown away by SEL's thematic representations. |
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| All of them are equally bad, I dunno why people feel they need to hate something as trivial as a TV show. Although SAO is the most baffling one tbh, its not like it really has that many obnoxious fanboys to push back against but people just shit on it all the time. |
| Bleach obviously, even the magazine it's in is trying to kill it. But Kubo is too strong. #MoneyTalks and Kubo makes tons of it XD  |
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| Has to be either the "2deep4me" haters, or Clannad haters. Fuck it all hates suck ass, can't we all just get along? |
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LOLninja said: Couldn't agree more with this. It's also quite hilarious how critics of Kill la Kill claim that it's things like "a failed satire which instead of cleverly and humorously parodying the genre eventually came to embody those very same tired tropes", and then they turn around and praise JoJo's Bizarre Adventure which is the same show in essence, excusing it simply because it's self-aware xD. Though KLK is self-aware as well; it's just that the same opinions get copied over and over unfortunately.I'm gonna say Kill la Kill (especially here on MAL) Despite it's popularity, people find the stupidest reasons to hate the series. "Oh noez! Da fanserviz! It's stupid, it's too silly, it's overrated, blah, blah,blah!" But the thing that annoys me the most is when people say "It can't hold a candle to Gurren Lagaan!" I honestly don't get how TTGL is so much better. They're similar series with the same silly over-the-top battle shounen and fights in space vibe. I cannot comprehend how one can love one series and hate the other. Doesn't make sense to me! It's like, where they really watching both series with their brains off? Or are these people secretly elitist? KLK has a consistent plot with entertaining characters and that's all a great series needs to have! It's just too bad the haters can't look past the ecchi... End rant. |
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But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
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