Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers (light novel)
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Zemroid said: I don't like Hans's reasoning. First of all, he said those doors have given him tons of trouble and still Adlet was able to open it with a little bomb. Some say it was automatically opened so the guards can go out but it doesn't make any sense. It would've been much better for the door to remain closed since it can't be opened without the key. Opening it automatically and sending two useless guards doesn't make any sense. Also, how does Hans even know the door only opens once and never closes? The fact that it hasn't closed so far, doesn't prove anything. exactly what i'm going for, a security system which automatically opens doors and then leaves them open makes no sense at all if we're to believe the seal saint are good at their work Jagd84 said: Why wouldn't that make sense? All of the Saint of Seals magic have traps that activate once the seal is breached, because spell is broken then. So a security system comes into effect attacks intruders incase that happens. The seal in the first place is designed to ward off fiends not humans and the former cannot enter the temple. So even if the fiends broke the seal they can't get inside and will be attack by the guardians. So there is little point in it re locking it. 1. where is the trap this time? unless the barrier activated on its own by opening the doors there was no trap 2. if the doors opened on their own to let the guards out, the doors are clearly not broken 2.a. and once the guards are sent out they should have reclosed, otherwise it is a pretty dumb security system, imagine to door of your house to automatically open when a thief is forcing it....... and to stay open after, it makes no sense from a security point of view also considering the whole temple was so tough to resist bombings, the most secure way was to remain closed, it opening right after a little forcing is very odd 3. if the doors are broken then they were not programmed to stay open like hans said |
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| Nachetanya's character as a whole is more annoying than Adlet spamming 'I'M THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD!' Mora's still waifu, but I wish she had a different VA. Overall though, really good episode. Flemie & Mora best chars. |
Zeando said: 1. where is the trap this time? unless the barrier activated on its own by opening the doors there was no trap The trap are the guards. They have nothing to do with the barrier. 2. if the doors opened on their own to let the guards out, the doors are clearly not broken As Hans (or Mora) said, the guard only appear if the door is opened improperly which Adlt did with his forced entry. 2.a. and once the guards are sent out they should have reclosed, otherwise it is a pretty dumb security system, imagine to door of your house to automatically open when a thief is forcing it....... and to stay open after, it makes no sense from a security point of view It does if the magic and it designed to repel Fiends. They can't enter the temple due to the salt being present in the passageway. also considering the whole temple was so tough to resist bombings, the most secure way was to remain closed, it opening right after a little forcing is very odd Rewatch episode 4. The Adlet when got to the temple grounds he surprised to find them undamaged. It was trick. 3. if the doors are broken then they were not programmed to stay open like hans said If the doors were working properly then the door would be able close and open normally and the guards would not have activated. The doors can only work properly with the key which Mora has. She was given to her by Lauren. Adlet clearly damaged something internally hence why the magic on the doors is broken. And if door could reclose then magic suits of armor wouldn't be need in the first place. |
Iron_MawAug 2, 2015 7:06 AM
Jagd84 said: 3. if the doors are broken then they were not programmed to stay open like hans said If the doors were working properly then the door would be able close and open normally and the guards would not have activated. The doors can only work properly with the key which Mora has. She was given to her by Lauren. Adlet clearly damaged something internally hence why the magic on the doors is broken. And if door could reclose then magic suits of armor wouldn't be need in the first place. soo you can see it clearly too that whoever had the key could have entered the room before adlet, so hans's point about no one being able to come in before adlet is not valid, it was possible in the end, hans reasoning is not solid It does if the magic and it designed to repel Fiends. They can't enter the temple due to the salt being present in the passageway. besides, if fiends can't enter why bother with guards ? those guards were not there for fiends :/ |
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Zeando said: soo you can see it clearly too that whoever had the key could have entered the room before adlet, so hans's point about no one being able to come in before adlet is not valid, it was possible in the end, hans reasoning is not solid Adlet is suspected because the door was opened improperly, not because nobody has never been inside there before. The altar had built by somebody afterall. Mora stated she had the key but hadn't been inside because she met Hans prior. So he was first person to reach the grounds before anybody. It does if the magic and it designed to repel Fiends. They can't enter the temple due to the salt being present in the passageway. besides, if fiends can't enter why bother with guards ? those guards were not there for fiends :/ Extra precaution. Once the door is damaged the guards are spun as last line of defense since the door can't close after being breached and who knows what the fiends might try next. |
Iron_MawAug 2, 2015 7:29 AM
Adlet is suspected because the door was opened improperly, not because nobody has never been there before. that's what hans did seem to mean, if someone could have come in before, the accusation on adlet wouldn't stand given mora and the key, were afar when the barrier got opened, if someone used the key to come in before there should be a way the key got moved from mora to the temple and then back to mora Jagd84 said: besides, if fiends can't enter why bother with guards ? those guards were not there for fiends :/ Extra precaution. Once the door is damaged the guards are spun as last line of defense since the door can't close after being breached and who knows what the fiends might try next. the thing is, those doors didn't look to be breached at all, they opened by themselfes after adlet blowed the key hole, which didn't look that much damaged anyway |
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| Great episode. The plot thickens. Though it's somewhat obvious who the 7th is, still, the Anime's such a fan watch! |
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Zeando said: that's what hans did seem to mean, if someone could have come in before, the accusation on adlet wouldn't stand given mora and the key, were afar when the barrier got opened, if someone used the key to come in before there should be a way the key got moved from mora to the temple and then back to mora Right, but the only one who could have opened it without damaging the door is Mora. But she met Hans before arriving delaying her thus she has an alibi. So Adlet was the one to get there before anyone else as testified himself. the thing is, those doors didn't look to be breached at all, they opened by themselfes after adlet blowed the key hole, which didn't look that much damaged anyway In episode 4, Adlet placed a dozen bombs directly within the keyhole which damaged the internal mechanism from the blast. There no way his explosive could have destroyed the entire thing externally. |
Iron_MawAug 2, 2015 8:04 AM
| Chamot has to be the most annoying character I seen this year period. I would love someone to bitch slap her to the ground and shut her up. Jeez. |
Jagd84 said: Zeando said: given mora and the key were afar when the barrier got opened, if someone used the key to come in before there should be a way the key got moved from mora to the temple and then back to mora Right, but the only one who could have opened it without damaging the door is Mora. But she met Hans before arriving delaying her thus she has an alibi. So Adlet was the one to get there before anyone else as testified himself. adlet not seeing anyone doesn't mean anyone couldn't have come before adlet arrived there and no, it's not only mora, anyone with the key could have opened and reclosed the doors before, so if it wasn't mora cause she was with hans and they both can confirm each other, it should have been someone else, what is left to explain is how could the key move from mora to the temple and back to mora aside from adlet the only one to not be grouped when the barrier got activated was chamo, no one can confirm adlet and chamo's position and what they were doing when it happened chamo has no alibi, but again, if she used the key she should have taken it from mora far before, then somehow gave it back before she entered the room Jagd84 said: the thing is, those doors didn't look to be breached at all, they opened by themselfes after adlet blowed the key hole, which didn't look that much damaged anyway In episode 4, Adlet placed a dozen bombs directly within the keyhole which damaged the internal mechanism from the blast. There no way his explosived could have destroyed the entire door. do heavy doors open by themselfes when the lock is blasted? they remain closed usually when that happens, them opening after the blast is odd |
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| What an awesome episode. I've been waiting for this to happen. These kind of puzzles are always the best to watch. We got to see some more of the new braves, which looked interesting. But really want to see them in action. Especially Chamot since she keeps talking about being this strong. |
| That episode was pretty boring. I feel like a half an episode worth of tension got stretched into a full episode. I know thought going in they would spend half the episode in the barrier and then everyone would be on guard for the fake as the progressed out. It really just seemed to drag longer than necessary this week. |
| Mhh so this episode was about hearing some backstory and suspicions .. I was hoping they would find the fake in this episode, but it seems that i'll have to wait till next time. Adlet's story did sound a bit weird though.. if what Hans was saying is true. |
| I still think Nashetani is the culprit, i mean she can use her power and control the dagger, right? Another thing the faint scene is just for call the attention and made people look at Adlet. Her behavior are so suspicious since episode 1. |
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Sephil said: I still think Nashetani is the culprit, i mean she can use her power and control the dagger, right? Another thing the faint scene is just for call the attention and made people look at Adlet. Her behavior are so suspicious since episode 1. - The barrier can not be activated from the outside. - You have to say the words "Rise, fog" with your hand on the tablet. |
CJKDR said: ignore the rank, one doesn't enjoy the rank but the show itselfWith all this intense debating and the amount of posts you would think this would be ranked higher.. Debate and interest in refuting an argument shows enjoyment imo. but maybe some are still thinking or expecting this to be a fantasy adventure show with fancy battles and powers |
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CJKDR said: With all this intense debating and the amount of posts you would think this would be ranked higher.. Debate and interest in refuting an argument shows enjoyment imo. Actually the score keep getting lower and will as long as there will be peoples awaiting an action show who have not realized what the show is. After it's clear enough, it may goes up again. |
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CJKDR said: With all this intense debating and the amount of posts you would think this would be ranked higher.. Debate and interest in refuting an argument shows enjoyment imo. Wrong expectations. People expecting generic fantasy show rate this low. People liking generic fantasy show and expecting it rate this low. A lot of great shows have low ratings for no reason while a lot A LOT of overhyped shows keep high ratings for years. |
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| Lol'd on a Nashetania decrease on be a favourite. Weeks ago it have been around 50 or even more, now it's around 40. |
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| Wait a second, why are they suspecting Adlet as the seventh? I mean, doesn't the argument they used to make Flamie look legit (that they were together at some point, so if one had killed each other there would be only six) work for Adlet too? (or even more, since Adlet was known to be one of the six by the princess?) I think either I am very confused or this is some incoherent stuff. Besides that, I think Flamie might be my favourite character this season. |
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Sonatta said: Wait a second, why are they suspecting Adlet as the seventh? I mean, doesn't the argument they used to make Flamie look legit (that they were together at some point, so if one had killed each other there would be only six) work for Adlet too? (or even more, since Adlet was known to be one of the six by the princess?) I think either I am very confused or this is some incoherent stuff. Besides that, I think Flamie might be my favourite character this season. Flemy was not found alone in the temple nor was the first in the temple when barrier activated. Adlet was. That fact kind of outweighs the killing argument. |
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CookingPriest said: Sonatta said: Wait a second, why are they suspecting Adlet as the seventh? I mean, doesn't the argument they used to make Flamie look legit (that they were together at some point, so if one had killed each other there would be only six) work for Adlet too? (or even more, since Adlet was known to be one of the six by the princess?) I think either I am very confused or this is some incoherent stuff. Besides that, I think Flamie might be my favourite character this season. Flemy was not found alone in the temple nor was the first in the temple when barrier activated. Adlet was. That fact kind of outweighs the killing argument. Oh, I see. I had almost forgotten that he was actually found in there alone. Thanks! |
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Sonatta said: Wait a second, why are they suspecting Adlet as the seventh? I mean, doesn't the argument they used to make Flamie look legit (that they were together at some point, so if one had killed each other there would be only six) work for Adlet too? (or even more, since Adlet was known to be one of the six by the princess?) I think either I am very confused or this is some incoherent stuff. Besides that, I think Flamie might be my favourite character this season. No, it only works with Fremy. Because Fremy is the brave killer and known as this, as a brave killer it would be very bad move to come with 7 peoples on the meeting point because it's obvious you're goign to be suspected first. that's almost suicidal, especially since she knew chamo would be here. Whereas in Adlet's case, that's different. While not known, he would not be the first being suspected, so by insisting in bringing in the 7th (fremy) rather than letting her go on her own, he actually can voluntarily create a situation where seven brave will try to kill each other in a close space. If adlet is the fake and Fremy isn't, Adlet could at the very least expect Fremy being killed before him. And then, if Fremy is proved after being killed to not be the culprit, then by being the person taht defended her the most, he can easily reject the fault on other "look, I told you so". Logically in that kind of situation, the person that was against the idea of killing someone that is revealed innocent after being killed isn't suspected in priority. Quite the contrary, the peoples who insisted the most in killing fremy would be the most suspected. So bringing in Fremy without killing anyone doesn't make Adlet less suspicious if you think about it, far from it. If not for Hans' quick mind, Adlet would still not be suspected right now. Bringing in a 7th that is the brave killer and in particular a 7th with several persons wanting to kill her badly would work ina favor of a real culprit. THe only person for who it doesn't work is fremy herself. So yeah, nothing wrong with Hans' way of thinking. He may be right or wrong, but he sure was logical in excluding only Fremy with this argument. |
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| This show is definitely straight up my alley. Everything about it is perfectly done. They did so well to explain the mechanisms of the fog barrier, and how the temple doors worked as well. The introductions for each character felt a bit skipped, mostly because during them, we were in Adlet's head the whole entire time. This makes me feel like certain information may have been purposely left out for Anime-Viewers, so that we couldn't deduce more of the puzzle than we can with the data that we have on hand. It's a damn shame that through just reading through these forums, I've already had the misfortune of coming across the main culprit of Volume 1, though exactly how they performed the act is yet to be revealed (thank god for that). Still, as impartially as I can, I shall try to throw out my theories based solely on what additional information I saw from each new episode. First off, Adlet is still not off my suspicion list. Yes I know a ton of you guys are going on about "But he's the MC" and "But we've been seeing things in his perspective the whole time". I say to hell with that, there's ALWAYS going to be a chance that he is showing viewers either what he wants us to see as his memories/actions, or what even HE himself believes to be the truth of his actions (when the reality was something entirely different). I may be overthinking things because of Heavy Rain, and most recently Gakkou Gurashi, but I will not rule out the chance that the narrator himself is a unreliable source of information. Given that him as a person is not all that remarkable, I feel like he could have been manipulated somehow, specifically if it were done by another Rokka, to alter his memory, just like how he was manipulated by the Fiend to blast the door. Given that he was then forced to fight those Sentinel guards, before the Fiend revealed itself and disappeared, and then the fog came into play, there was quite a few minutes of a gap whereby someone else may have snuck into the temple and activated the barrier. The only issue here would be how exactly said culprit managed to sneak back out undetected and retained an alibi for when they finally "arrived" at the temple. Of course, if his memory had truly been manipulated, he may have been actually standing outside the temple with his back towards it for a longer time than he thought. Of course, if he hadn't manipulated his own memory of the situation (thus him being guilty), then someone else manipulating him would indicate that he himself was innocent. I have no solid conclusion for him at this moment, and thus Adlet is still on my suspect list. Hans' deductions thus far make too much sense. Now as for Hans himself, I find his character likeable, but nonetheless suspicious at the same time. His occupation and skillset make him out to be an easy suspect, given his job is to sneak into places for either espionage or murder. He was first to arrive at the rendezvous point, and hence had the opportunity to scout the temple out. He was also the only one to meet up with Mora, the one with the Temple Key, and probably had opportunities to steal it to perform his deed before coming back and sneaking the key back to Mora. The only problem with this theory, is that he would have to be away from Mora for an extended period of time, which judging by how they both appeared, did not happen. Hans and Mora were travelling together towards the temple, and hence if either one of them were the culprit, the other would've definitely known or suspected the other. Still, there IS the chance both are in cahoots with each other for yet ANOTHER unrelated purpose, though this would also be unrelated to the issue at hand, and more information regarding what happened to both of them before reaching the temple would be needed. Hans has the unfortunate stereotyping of an intelligent Rogue Assassin, but as of this moment, I would put him and Mora near the bottom rung of my suspect list, purely because both were travelling together and neither were familiar enough with one another (so we know), to support each other's alibis otherwise. Also, Mora has the added title of being the Saint trainer or whatever, meaning unless she wasn't fit for such a job (she's essentially a female Rokka trainer), she wouldn't be in such a position of power. If she really wanted to help the Demon Lord, she could've easily messed with all the Saint's trainings and resulted in no Saints being picked as Rokkas. Chamo, I find out of the new characters, the most suspicious and the least trustworthy. First off, despite the command from Mora last episode to cool her jets, she's still insisting on trying to solve the problem with "Killing the traitor". Yes she may be annoying as fuck, but have you ever wondered if her "I'm an innocent child who is too spoiled for this world" character is all just an act? If the main purpose of the traitor is to kill off as many Rokkas as they can so as to weaken the battle strength of the Group as a whole, her unquenchable thirst for blood and her childish behavior may be just the disguise that she needs when she suddenly goes "Oops, I killed him/her, but the barrier didn't deactivate, my mistake... teehee... they deserved it anyway". On the outside she's an impatient and spoiled brat, but considering the strength of her ability, I don't see many of those present actually able to stop her if she really went crazy on anyone, namely Fremy. God knows how she's been wanting to kill her. Second, her impulsive "I killed the Monkey Fiend" may sound innocent, but it could be her telling the truth because it suited both her nature and her alibi. She probably did kill the Fiend, and she said that so that the others would believe the other stuff she said. Chamo could just be biding her time to strike, whilst acting spoiled and innocent. Oh yeah, and then there's the fact that she came alone and has no one to back up her alibi. For Fremy, I stated my case last week, and I stick to my point that she is the least untrustworthy of the group. Goldov's loyalty to Nashetania is unquestioned, and hence I find him "manipulate-able" by the princess, but apart from that, I don't see him as having any ulterior motive (yet). Nashetania would appear to be the obvious choice as the antagonist, due to her inexplicable actions, her inconsistent personality, and all those little twitches and actions that she does (like the hand grab and the fainting) every episode. I would rate Nashetania quite high in the list of suspects, with Goldov under her (for being manipulated without his own knowledge) and Fremy at the bottom of the ladder. The only flaw in that ranking here would be the fact that Fremy, Goldov and Nashetania are one another's alibi, considering that they all came running into the temple TOGETHER. There's definitely no love lost between Fremy and the other two. Hence, unless Nashetania managed to convince Goldov to trick Fremy into believing they were all together, or unless Nashetania managed to do that to the other two by herself, then I don't see how any of them could have snuck into the Temple alone to raise the barrier. I'll need more information as to what happened to the three of them between their Fiend fight, and them arriving at the temple. Hence my tentative Suspect list would seemingly be (ordered by most suspicious first): 1. Adlet 2. Nashetania 3. Chamo 4. Goldov 5. Hans 6. Mora 7. Fremy Still, I need much more information regarding what each of them did before arriving at the temple to make a better guess. It's quite difficult to figure out exactly how the culprit did what they did. |
L-RyoshiAug 2, 2015 11:29 AM
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| Okaaay. Now I wanna reaad the LN. This is getting pretty interesting. Got a li'l Umineko vibe in this episode with the whole locked door mystery. |
| new trailer (that's the 4th, even if they call it 3rd, sicne there was a 0) released using the new ending song as well as recent scenes. They are clearly insisting a LOT on the type of show this is with the choice of dialogues they made this time. |
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Zefyris said: new trailer (that's the 4th, even if they call it 3rd, sicne there was a 0) released using the new ending song as well as recent scenes. They are clearly insisting a LOT on the type of show this is with the choice of dialogues they made this time. Its only fitting since the "reveal" happened already. |
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| BTW for those finding Chamo annoying since she requests killing Fremy all the time... You seriously need to rememebr that among the 6, Chamo is the ONLY ONE that Fremy directly tried to kill. Having in front of you someone that tried to kill you with a gun yet being told to not do anything about it isn't especially the most fun situation. Especially not for a 14 years child. |
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| Ehhh I think it's Hans, yeah he seems pretty obvious but that's the reason I suspect him, they might be pulling a reverse plot twist. He said it himself, he could have snuck in the moment Adlet opened the door and left in a matter of seconds. He could have used a magic dummy or something to have an alibi with the others. Also there's no reason to trust the one-use door theory just because he says that it's true. |
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| Let the mind games and witch hunt begin! It will be very interesting to see how many episodes this portion will cover. |
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redd530 said: Sephil said: I still think Nashetani is the culprit, i mean she can use her power and control the dagger, right? Another thing the faint scene is just for call the attention and made people look at Adlet. Her behavior are so suspicious since episode 1. - The barrier can not be activated from the outside. - You have to say the words "Rise, fog" with your hand on the tablet. True i forget about that. Maybe here we have a conspiracy, 1 fake and 1 real rokka helping the demon lord. I still think bunny girl is suspicious. |
| There's no way it could be Fremy when she had so many opportunities to kill Adlet. I don't see how Adlet can be the culprit either. He has done nothing suspicious to even warrant a spec of suspicion. If it is him, it is a badly written mystery. Personally i think he was obviously setup. Nothing about Mora seems suspicious either, I'd be surprised if it was her. I also don't think it is Chamo or Hans solely because they are the sketchiest people, but didn't have any qualms of telling everyone about their past. Though the two just mentioned are higher in my personal suspect list. Nashetania SEEMS to be the most fishy with her antics this episode, but that would mean Goldov may be an accomplice unless he himself is oblivious to what the princess does, and that she is manipulating both Adlet and Goldov. 1. Nashetania 2. Goldov 3. Chamo and Hans 4. Mora 5. Fremy and Adlet The biggest question of my ranking list is, if Nashetania is indeed the culprit, does Goldov have a hand in it too? |
zzzeallyAug 2, 2015 12:15 PM
Zeally said: I don't see how Adlet can be the culprit either. He has done nothing suspicious to even warrant a spec of suspicion. You mean except for playing a fool, emotionally manipulating Fremy by pretending to trust her(mirror scene), every single of his inner thoughts this episode or everythng Zefyris already wrote few posts above? |
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Mathias2001 said: L-Ryoshi said: This show is definitely straight up my alley. Your comments give me life, I always love hearing your hypothesis and opinions on this show. Thanks. Just throwing out thoughts as I see them. It's a pretty fun process when you think about it. |
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Zeally said: There's no way it could be Fremy when she had so many opportunities to kill Adlet. I don't see how Adlet can be the culprit either. He has done nothing suspicious to even warrant a spec of suspicion. If it is him, it is a badly written mystery. Personally i think he was obviously setup. Nothing about Mora seems suspicious either, I'd be surprised if it was her. I also don't think it is Chamo or Hans solely because they are the sketchiest people, but didn't have any qualms of telling everyone about their past. Though the two just mentioned are higher in my personal suspect list. Nashetania SEEMS to be the most fishy with her antics this episode, but that would mean Goldov may be an accomplice unless he himself is oblivious to what the princess does, and that she is manipulating both Adlet and Goldov. 1. Nashetania 2. Goldov 3. Chamo and Hans 4. Mora 5. Fremy and Adlet The biggest question of my ranking list is, if Nashetania is indeed the culprit, does Goldov have a hand in it too? Then again, Nashetania could have killed Adlet a thousand of times in his sleep during those 10 days, and killed him again when he defended Fremy. Goldof wouldn't have said anything to that ~ I don't see how goldof could be the culprit. He hasn't done a single weird action since the beginning, and putting his own princess in danger in that mind game would definitely not be up his alley. HAns was with mora all the time that last day. Chamo was alone though. But except if it's an act, she sure looks too dumb to do that herself. |
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CookingPriest said: Zeally said: I don't see how Adlet can be the culprit either. He has done nothing suspicious to even warrant a spec of suspicion. You mean except for playing a fool, emotionally manipulating Fremy by pretending to trust her(mirror scene), every single of his inner thoughts this episode or everythng Zefyris already wrote few posts above? It's fun, because mirror scene is anime-original. |
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CookingPriest said: Zeally said: I don't see how Adlet can be the culprit either. He has done nothing suspicious to even warrant a spec of suspicion. You mean except for playing a fool, emotionally manipulating Fremy by pretending to trust her(mirror scene), every single of his inner thoughts this episode or everythng Zefyris already wrote few posts above? > Emotionally manipulating Fremy (mirror scene) I think he was simply looking out for himself so I would disagree with this. I would be more angry at his dumb personality, if he didn't do this. >Playing the fool I guess this kind of makes sense, but I've never interpreted his dumb personality as anything more than his personality. >The author giving us false information That's a lot of false information. I don't completely buy this. I think a good mystery doesn't just feed you false information. He's being manipulated from an external source? Where's the proof in that >His inner thoughts I don't find it suspicious at all |
| Interesting episode. I doubted between Mora and Adlet, but after re-watch all episodes... I say, the 7th is Adlet. In the first episode Adlet receive the mark through the tentacles from the king-demon... The last part of the the first opening, showed the marks of the six least Adlet's mark. (Yea the Adlet's mark showed before the others but it seem to disappear) He played with Fremy, mirror scene. The way how open the door is totally senseless... how can open the door with that explosion? When before the demons bombed the zone and they did nothing... But Mora... The unique had the key, was Mora... She could open the gate during the explosion, and she could run while Adlet was following the demon of the temple... Anyway I really think the 7th is Adlet. |
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| nashetania is obvious choice. |
| 1- Nashetania 90% 2- That old saint ( Maura was her name?) 10% I dont think there is a possibilty of others being fake. |
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