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ijuka said: Insertanamehere said: If by that you mean you want a series centered around fights eith no drama this...might not be the franchise for you. Well if the drama was decent... But to me UBW really is just about the fights, it's pretty shallow story-wise. UBW has never really been about the fights, those were really just ufotable being ufotable with their fantastic animation. The source material put far more emphasis on plot and character development than the fight, a lot more so than even the anime. If thats not your cup of tea, then this franchise probably isn't for you |
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Nekuwafers said: ijuka said: Well if the drama was decent... But to me UBW really is just about the fights, it's pretty shallow story-wise. UBW has never really been about the fights, those were really just ufotable being ufotable with their fantastic animation. The source material put far more emphasis on plot and character development than the fight, a lot more so than even the anime. If thats not your cup of tea, then this franchise probably isn't for you I did read the VN, I don't think that the aspects of the plot that according to you were emphasised were that great at all. Way too much asspull and nonsense for me to possibly take it seriously. Hence, what's left is action scenes. |
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ijuka said: Insertanamehere said: If by that you mean you want a series centered around fights eith no drama this...might not be the franchise for you. Well if the drama was decent... But to me UBW really is just about the fights, it's pretty shallow story-wise. UBW in the VN at least, has been about character (mainly Shirou). The plot isn't all that interesting but with the pacing (at least in the second half) its better. UBW is a character driven-story. The character being Shirou/Archer. The fights are part of that. With regards to HF |
Insertanamehere said: pufonD said: Hm. That is exactly what i though too, they abandoned the thing that looked the most exciting in this anime and it just turned into a drama based gibberish If by that you mean you want a series centered around fights eith no drama this...might not be the franchise for you. I'm not saying centered about fights. What i mean is that all I've seen in this franchise is F/SN right? And from what I've seen there is that there are quite a few major events (encounters between mages/fights/whatever you wanna call them). And just as soon as i saw the very first fights in UBW, i was so in awe and pumped for the rest of this series thinking of how all of the other major events going to be portrayed. But thats where it all finished. What i saw up to now is pretty much stale scenes with lots of conversations and bla bla. My point is, the main reason why I actually got interested into this franchise is because of the great mixture between fights/drama/story development etc. and after getting so hyped up at the beginning I've just been left there longing for more of what I've seen but actually never getting it. It feels like having a great bicycle but without a chain if you know what i mean. At the end of the day if i wanted to watch a drama story i would probably choose something like clannad i guess |
pufonD said: Insertanamehere said: If by that you mean you want a series centered around fights eith no drama this...might not be the franchise for you. I'm not saying centered about fights. What i mean is that all I've seen in this franchise is F/SN right? And from what I've seen there is that there are quite a few major events (encounters between mages/fights/whatever you wanna call them). And just as soon as i saw the very first fights in UBW, i was so in awe and pumped for the rest of this series thinking of how all of the other major events going to be portrayed. But thats where it all finished. What i saw up to now is pretty much stale scenes with lots of conversations and bla bla. My point is, the main reason why I actually got interested into this franchise is because of the great mixture between fights/drama/story development etc. and after getting so hyped up at the beginning I've just been left there longing for more of what I've seen but actually never getting it. It feels like having a great bicycle but without a chain if you know what i mean. At the end of the day if i wanted to watch a drama story i would probably choose something like clannad i guess Mhm, the action in the fighting scenes was slowed down so unbelievably much and instead of the prologue just being a taste of what's to come(I was super hyped for this series at the time as well), it just was pretty disappointing. Like, the second Lancer vs Archer fight was cut so short when they could easily have done a few minutes of filler with similar speed to their fight in prologue... Even the Saber vs Berserker fight that everyone seems to consider great was in my opinion sooooo slow. What I'm looking for in this anime adaptation is action scenes. I mean, the voice acting and the soundtrack are far inferior to the original VN's in the first place, especially Rin's and Archer's... and Shirou's performances are very lackluster in this anime in my opinion. If it's just people talking and talking, I find the VN far more enjoyable. |
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ijuka said: pufonD said: I'm not saying centered about fights. What i mean is that all I've seen in this franchise is F/SN right? And from what I've seen there is that there are quite a few major events (encounters between mages/fights/whatever you wanna call them). And just as soon as i saw the very first fights in UBW, i was so in awe and pumped for the rest of this series thinking of how all of the other major events going to be portrayed. But thats where it all finished. What i saw up to now is pretty much stale scenes with lots of conversations and bla bla. My point is, the main reason why I actually got interested into this franchise is because of the great mixture between fights/drama/story development etc. and after getting so hyped up at the beginning I've just been left there longing for more of what I've seen but actually never getting it. It feels like having a great bicycle but without a chain if you know what i mean. At the end of the day if i wanted to watch a drama story i would probably choose something like clannad i guess Mhm, the action in the fighting scenes was slowed down so unbelievably much and instead of the prologue just being a taste of what's to come(I was super hyped for this series at the time as well), it just was pretty disappointing. Like, the second Lancer vs Archer fight was cut so short when they could easily have done a few minutes of filler with similar speed to their fight in prologue... Even the Saber vs Berserker fight that everyone seems to consider great was in my opinion sooooo slow. What I'm looking for in this anime adaptation is action scenes. I mean, the voice acting and the soundtrack are far inferior to the original VN's in the first place, especially Rin's and Archer's... and Shirou's performances are very lackluster in this anime in my opinion. If it's just people talking and talking, I find the VN far more enjoyable. I'm in agreement here, tbh i was looking up to berserker v saber scene the most too, but got somewhat disappointed. Animation was great, but the action itself was definitely slow. I guess what the producers tried to achieve is to show how unbreakable and strong berserker is, but tbh everyone knows that either way, so just put in more action! No need to interrupt a fight with a 10 second shot of berserker and then a 10 second shot of someone talking crap. |
pufonD said: I'm in agreement here, tbh i was looking up to berserker v saber scene the most too, but got somewhat disappointed. Animation was great, but the action itself was definitely slow. I guess what the producers tried to achieve is to show how unbreakable and strong berserker is, but tbh everyone knows that either way, so just put in more action! No need to interrupt a fight with a 10 second shot of berserker and then a 10 second shot of someone talking crap. And yet there are still people who think that F/Z Berserker honestly got a chance against F/sn Berserker... Also: Many VN readers: "This has not nearly enough dialogue/monologues!" Many AOs: "This has way too much talking/monologues!" You really can't please everyone... |
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Grey-Zone said: pufonD said: I'm in agreement here, tbh i was looking up to berserker v saber scene the most too, but got somewhat disappointed. Animation was great, but the action itself was definitely slow. I guess what the producers tried to achieve is to show how unbreakable and strong berserker is, but tbh everyone knows that either way, so just put in more action! No need to interrupt a fight with a 10 second shot of berserker and then a 10 second shot of someone talking crap. And yet there are still people who think that F/Z Berserker honestly got a chance against F/sn Berserker... Also: Many VN readers: "This has not nearly enough dialogue/monologues!" Many AOs: "This has way too much talking/monologues!" You really can't please everyone... It's Shirou's monologues that are missing. They gave additional monologues to just about everyone else. Well, I guess Shirou does have some additional Temeeeees. |
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Grey-Zone said: Many VN readers: "This has not nearly enough dialogue/monologues!" Many AOs: "This has way too much talking/monologues!" You really can't please everyone... More or less summarizes this forum |
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ijuka said: It's Shirou's monologues that are missing. They gave additional monologues to just about everyone else. Well, I guess Shirou does have some additional Temeeeees. That's not the point. Many of those people don't even care about what is being said. It's the fact alone that "the characters are thinking and talking all the time" that make the show "boring". And it's not like more Shirou monologues would help them... after all among them are the people that made and spread the meme about the supposedly "unlogical" phrase "Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right", by which they make fun of the language, but by making fun of it, show that their own understanding is actually the real "bad" thing here. It clear cut proof that they don't want to use their brain for this show in the slightest. |
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Nekuwafers said: Grey-Zone said: Many VN readers: "This has not nearly enough dialogue/monologues!" Many AOs: "This has way too much talking/monologues!" You really can't please everyone... More or less summarizes this forum For a supposed "show not tell" show they sure as hell spend time a lot talking. The problem is that the wrong people are talking and about wrong things. Hence why both complaints are correct. |
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Nekuwafers said: Grey-Zone said: Many VN readers: "This has not nearly enough dialogue/monologues!" Many AOs: "This has way too much talking/monologues!" You really can't please everyone... More or less summarizes this forum C'mon lads, it's a matter of taste at the end of the day, some like things others don't and other way round. There is absolutely nothing wrong about that |
| Jesus all this heated debating over a damn sex scene. Not like it really makes a difference story wise. Both ways result in the same way and we don't get any awkward post sex scene that Shirou and Rin definitely would have since they are both fucked up people. |
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pufonD said: Nekuwafers said: More or less summarizes this forum C'mon lads, it's a matter of taste at the end of the day, some like things others don't and other way round. There is absolutely nothing wrong about that Oh I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it at all, the opinions themselves aren't wrong, they're just a matter of taste, like you said. We're just saying that it shows how it really is impossible for an adaptation or even a show to please everyone due to a conflict in tastes, so no matter how the show is made there will always be some people displeased with it. |
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Kolios said: HandsomeMan said: Why is that some people seem obsessed with getting their little pointless romance scene? That is the question. What do you or any other person who berates this show criticizes THAT aspect, when this show is full of other bigger issues? What is it that you people actually gain by seeing them getting it on together? it boggles my mind. This show has been criticized for other issues, so drop the bullshit strawman argument newcomer. VN readers have arguably been the strongest critic, just go read CookingPriest posts. The problem with that scene is that it's inconsistent with its result. There's no point having sexual tension and not have at least a kiss. And the mana crest transfer breaks the lore. Also romance is part of the story. Why have ShirouXRin in there if they're not at least going to have physical affection when the tension is there right before their biggest battle. I know this may come up as a surprise for you but people do have sex right before a known inescapable fatal situation, especially if they're for all intents and purposes in a relationship. I agree, as I'm sure you've seen xD. In the end I guess what's done is done though. So long as they show them having SOME physical affection for each other by the end of the show I'll be happy. A large part of this route is suppossed to be Rin and Shirou's relationship as well as Shirou's ideals. |
bobzanny said: Jesus all this heated debating over a damn sex scene. Not like it really makes a difference story wise. Both ways result in the same way and we don't get any awkward post sex scene that Shirou and Rin definitely would have since they are both fucked up people. Were you watching the episode? There was already an awkward post lore-breaking+visions of radioactive dolphins "sex" scene. |
SaintEmiya said: . A large part of this route is suppossed to be Rin and Shirou's relationship as well as Shirou's ideals. Well most of that is missing already tbh. |
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Nekuwafers said: pufonD said: C'mon lads, it's a matter of taste at the end of the day, some like things others don't and other way round. There is absolutely nothing wrong about that Oh I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it at all, the opinions themselves aren't wrong, they're just a matter of taste, like you said. We're just saying that it shows how it really is impossible for an adaptation or even a show to please everyone due to a conflict in tastes, so no matter how the show is made there will always be some people displeased with it. Well this is the sort of thing that happens with everything in life. But seriously, looking from a different angle, this show is still good. What I mean is that people in general have only a thing or two that they don't find appealing from what i can read (personally, for example, as i stated i feel that they drew back and are lacking on the intensity of the fighting, otherwise UBW would of been perfect for me). The rest is still great. |
Kolios said: bobzanny said: Jesus all this heated debating over a damn sex scene. Not like it really makes a difference story wise. Both ways result in the same way and we don't get any awkward post sex scene that Shirou and Rin definitely would have since they are both fucked up people. Were you watching the episode? There was already an awkward post lore-breaking+visions of radioactive dolphins "sex" scene. Would you want it to be even more awkward? Besides people should watch this show not for that once scene where maybe we see Shirou and Rin have sex but for the dialogue, characters, and story. Having the sex scene enhances nothing to the overall plot. |
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pufonD said: Nekuwafers said: Oh I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it at all, the opinions themselves aren't wrong, they're just a matter of taste, like you said. We're just saying that it shows how it really is impossible for an adaptation or even a show to please everyone due to a conflict in tastes, so no matter how the show is made there will always be some people displeased with it. Well this is the sort of thing that happens with everything in life. But seriously, looking from a different angle, this show is still good. What I mean is that people in general have only a thing or two that they don't find appealing from what i can read (personally, for example, as i stated i feel that they drew back and are lacking on the intensity of the fighting, otherwise UBW would of been perfect for me). The rest is still great. Yea I completely agree. There are some cuts I disagree with and personally I wouldn't have preferred dolphins (tho I thought the scene was still well done aside from plot holes), but I'm still enjoying the hell out of the show |
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Kolios said: HandsomeMan said: Why is that some people seem obsessed with getting their little pointless romance scene? That is the question. What do you or any other person who berates this show criticizes THAT aspect, when this show is full of other bigger issues? What is it that you people actually gain by seeing them getting it on together? it boggles my mind. This show has been criticized for other issues, so drop the bullshit strawman argument newcomer. VN readers have arguably been the strongest critic, just go read CookingPriest posts. The problem with that scene is that it's inconsistent with its result. There's no point having sexual tension and not have at least a kiss. And the mana crest transfer breaks the lore. Also romance is part of the story. Why have ShirouXRin in there if they're not at least going to have physical affection when the tension is there right before their biggest battle. I know this may come up as a surprise for you but people do have sex right before a known inescapable fatal situation, especially if they're for all intents and purposes in a relationship. Judging by your reply, you're the one who seems to be sexually frustrated around here. |
HandsomeMan said: Kolios said: This show has been criticized for other issues, so drop the bullshit strawman argument newcomer. VN readers have arguably been the strongest critic, just go read CookingPriest posts. The problem with that scene is that it's inconsistent with its result. There's no point having sexual tension and not have at least a kiss. And the mana crest transfer breaks the lore. Also romance is part of the story. Why have ShirouXRin in there if they're not at least going to have physical affection when the tension is there right before their biggest battle. I know this may come up as a surprise for you but people do have sex right before a known inescapable fatal situation, especially if they're for all intents and purposes in a relationship. Judging by your reply, you're the one who seems to be sexually frustrated around here. Well I said pretty much the same thing as him and I've been living with my girlfriend for over 2 years now. Pretty sure I'm not sexually frustrated. You got any other excellent arguments? Basically, it boils down to this. Realistically these two TEENAGERS, in love, facing life and death situations, hopped up on adrenaline, in a bed half naked and both being good looking would have done SOMETHING physical. It's literally biology. Ofcourse you could just go "hurr VN porn perv" and show your ignorance instead. |
SaintEmiya said: HandsomeMan said: Judging by your reply, you're the one who seems to be sexually frustrated around here. Well I said pretty much the same thing as him and I've been living with my girlfriend for over 2 years now. Pretty sure I'm not sexually frustrated. You got any other excellent arguments? Basically, it boils down to this. Realistically these two TEENAGERS, in love, facing life and death situations, hopped up on adrenaline, in a bed half naked and both being good looking would have done SOMETHING physical. It's literally biology. Ofcourse you could just go "hurr VN porn perv" and show your ignorance instead. So how do you know they haven't done it? What I was asking is why do people so badly want to see it. What, you want proof or something? What for? Maybe a few of you frustrated people care, but most people don't care for those useless scenes. |
HandsomeMan said: SaintEmiya said: Well I said pretty much the same thing as him and I've been living with my girlfriend for over 2 years now. Pretty sure I'm not sexually frustrated. You got any other excellent arguments? Basically, it boils down to this. Realistically these two TEENAGERS, in love, facing life and death situations, hopped up on adrenaline, in a bed half naked and both being good looking would have done SOMETHING physical. It's literally biology. Ofcourse you could just go "hurr VN porn perv" and show your ignorance instead. So how do you know they haven't done it? What I was asking is why do people so badly want to see it. What, you want proof or something? What for? Maybe a few of you frustrated people care, but most people don't care for those useless scenes. How is showing realism and actual affection in a RELATIONSHIP useless scenes? Then all Archer's flashbacks are "useless scenes" as we don't need proof of anything ofcourse, we already know he's broken, why do we need to see how!?!? What a stupid thing to say. And how do I know they haven't done it? They were fucking sitting with their clothes on before and after and she only had a go at him about seeing a vision. 99% sure they didn't do it. As I've said before, I would have been happy with a kiss and fade to black, I don't give a shit about watching some animated porn or whatever. I just wanted to see some REALISM and a realistic relationship between these two. |
Kolios said: HandsomeMan said: Why is that some people seem obsessed with getting their little pointless romance scene? That is the question. What do you or any other person who berates this show criticizes THAT aspect, when this show is full of other bigger issues? What is it that you people actually gain by seeing them getting it on together? it boggles my mind. This show has been criticized for other issues, so drop the bullshit strawman argument newcomer. VN readers have arguably been the strongest critic, just go read CookingPriest posts. The problem with that scene is that it's inconsistent with its result. There's no point having sexual tension and not have at least a kiss. And the mana crest transfer breaks the lore. Also romance is part of the story. Why have ShirouXRin in there if they're not at least going to have physical affection when the tension is there right before their biggest battle. I know this may come up as a surprise for you but people do have sex right before a known inescapable fatal situation, especially if they're for all intents and purposes in a relationship. But they followed exactly how the RN version was m8 And really I don't think the crest loss will hinder Rin that much, she has still her inherent talent for magecraft and etc, she will be okay F/Z spoiler |
SaintEmiya said: HandsomeMan said: So how do you know they haven't done it? What I was asking is why do people so badly want to see it. What, you want proof or something? What for? Maybe a few of you frustrated people care, but most people don't care for those useless scenes. How is showing realism and actual affection in a RELATIONSHIP useless scenes? Then all Archer's flashbacks are "useless scenes" as we don't need proof of anything ofcourse, we already know he's broken, why do we need to see how!?!? What a stupid thing to say. And how do I know they haven't done it? They were fucking sitting with their clothes on before and after and she only had a go at him about seeing a vision. 99% sure they didn't do it. As I've said before, I would have been happy with a kiss and fade to black, I don't give a shit about watching some animated porn or whatever. I just wanted to see some REALISM and a realistic relationship between these two. You should be blaming the Realta Nua version then, which by the way is said by Nasu to be the ultimate Fate/SN version :p |
MightyM16 said: SaintEmiya said: How is showing realism and actual affection in a RELATIONSHIP useless scenes? Then all Archer's flashbacks are "useless scenes" as we don't need proof of anything ofcourse, we already know he's broken, why do we need to see how!?!? What a stupid thing to say. And how do I know they haven't done it? They were fucking sitting with their clothes on before and after and she only had a go at him about seeing a vision. 99% sure they didn't do it. As I've said before, I would have been happy with a kiss and fade to black, I don't give a shit about watching some animated porn or whatever. I just wanted to see some REALISM and a realistic relationship between these two. You should be blaming the Realta Nua version then, which by the way is said by Nasu to be the ultimate Fate/SN version :p I didn't like it in the RN version either, and yes I thought the original was done poorly as well. I was hoping that UFO would actually portray a decent relationship but tbh that's a rarity in all of anime anyway. |
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SaintEmiya said: HandsomeMan said: So how do you know they haven't done it? What I was asking is why do people so badly want to see it. What, you want proof or something? What for? Maybe a few of you frustrated people care, but most people don't care for those useless scenes. How is showing realism and actual affection in a RELATIONSHIP useless scenes? Then all Archer's flashbacks are "useless scenes" as we don't need proof of anything ofcourse, we already know he's broken, why do we need to see how!?!? What a stupid thing to say. And how do I know they haven't done it? They were fucking sitting with their clothes on before and after and she only had a go at him about seeing a vision. 99% sure they didn't do it. As I've said before, I would have been happy with a kiss and fade to black, I don't give a shit about watching some animated porn or whatever. I just wanted to see some REALISM and a realistic relationship between these two. |
HandsomeMan said: SaintEmiya said: How is showing realism and actual affection in a RELATIONSHIP useless scenes? Then all Archer's flashbacks are "useless scenes" as we don't need proof of anything ofcourse, we already know he's broken, why do we need to see how!?!? What a stupid thing to say. And how do I know they haven't done it? They were fucking sitting with their clothes on before and after and she only had a go at him about seeing a vision. 99% sure they didn't do it. As I've said before, I would have been happy with a kiss and fade to black, I don't give a shit about watching some animated porn or whatever. I just wanted to see some REALISM and a realistic relationship between these two. Well I guess you've shown me not to discuss stuff on a discussion board. I feel kinda silly now realising that I've been arguing with an absoloute fucktard though :/ |
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HandsomeMan said: Oh yeah, name calling. Shows her smart you really are. Like I care how smart you think I am. You keep using your dank memes bro. But whatever, I think this conversation should just end here. |
SaintEmiya said: HandsomeMan said: Oh yeah, name calling. Shows her smart you really are. Like I care how smart you think I am. You keep using your dank memes bro. But whatever, I think this conversation should just end here. You care enough to reply "bro". |
MightyM16 said: Kolios said: This show has been criticized for other issues, so drop the bullshit strawman argument newcomer. VN readers have arguably been the strongest critic, just go read CookingPriest posts. The problem with that scene is that it's inconsistent with its result. There's no point having sexual tension and not have at least a kiss. And the mana crest transfer breaks the lore. Also romance is part of the story. Why have ShirouXRin in there if they're not at least going to have physical affection when the tension is there right before their biggest battle. I know this may come up as a surprise for you but people do have sex right before a known inescapable fatal situation, especially if they're for all intents and purposes in a relationship. But they followed exactly how the RN version was m8 And really I don't think the crest loss will hinder Rin that much, she has still her inherent talent for magecraft and etc, she will be okay F/Z spoiler Crest IS everything. Rin would NEVER sacrifice literal freaking ENTIRE FAMILY LEGACY of research and knowledge. It is freaking OOC and frankly makes no literal sense and makes plotholes within the lore. Alongside the plotholes This turns the most epic FSN romance into freaking schoolgirl crush and lowers the show's expected maturity. |
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fst said: Strictly speaking, magic circuits are everything, but that's pretty much the same as saying crest is everything. If we're going to use Zero examples, In any case I wasn't bothered because I thought she was only transferring a tiny little portion of her crest not the whole damned thing. That would be ridiculous. She literally states it is useless now. |
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Forgetfulness said: CookingPriest said: Is it really that out of character? Crest IS everything. Rin would NEVER sacrifice literal freaking ENTIRE FAMILY LEGACY of research and knowledge. It is freaking OOC and frankly makes no literal sense and makes plotholes within the lore. Alongside the plotholes This turns the most epic FSN romance into freaking schoolgirl crush and lowers the show's expected maturity. Completing the True Magic that is the Holy Grail is also one of the family's main objectives, but Rin cares more about saving her childhood crush than murdering him in cold blood to increase her chances of victory. The dude has the "strongest Servant", so obvs Shirou could hypothetically pose as a threat. Yes it's OOC, why would she sacrifice the crest when they can bang. It's just a horrible scene for many reasons. |
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Forgetfulness said: CookingPriest said: Is it really that out of character? Crest IS everything. Rin would NEVER sacrifice literal freaking ENTIRE FAMILY LEGACY of research and knowledge. It is freaking OOC and frankly makes no literal sense and makes plotholes within the lore. Alongside the plotholes This turns the most epic FSN romance into freaking schoolgirl crush and lowers the show's expected maturity. Completing the True Magic that is the Holy Grail is also one of the family's main objectives, but Rin cares more about saving her childhood crush than murdering him in cold blood to increase her chances of victory. The dude has the "strongest Servant", so obvs Shirou could hypothetically pose as a threat. UBW, Rin, Shirou, etc are about BALANCE. Rin would never give up her magus heritage nor she would give up her newfound connections. Doing what was done , destroys the point of the route. "hmm, to have sex with a boy I like OR to destroy my heritage and most likel go braindead? Crest transfer it is !" |
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Forgetfulness said: Wasn't this scene just what was in Realta Nua? What are your opinions on that then? The same, it sucks, just like every RN replacement scene. |
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CookingPriest said: fst said: Strictly speaking, magic circuits are everything, but that's pretty much the same as saying crest is everything. If we're going to use Zero examples, In any case I wasn't bothered because I thought she was only transferring a tiny little portion of her crest not the whole damned thing. That would be ridiculous. She literally states it is useless now. bullshit when |
fst said: CookingPriest said: She literally states it is useless now. bullshit when   |
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