Serhiyko said: lanblade said: Just Japanese documents that said he made it. What Japanese documents? Is the name of the anime written on them? Can you give a link? This book http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4816920358/ lists the two with that dot title difference. Which in turn is what's aggregated and sourced on Japanese database sites like japanese-cinema-db.jp and animationscc.wiki.fc2.com. In 1937 Kenzou established his film studio so it doesn't seem that off that he'd remake the classic story without Masao's involvement since Masao was the director and designer of the 1936 one so Kenzou didn't get to take the lead. |
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Serhiyko said: Do you physically own that book? No, I do not and I do not own any of the books referencing any of the hundreds of other old timey anime either. WorldCat says that the closest library near me with a copy is 340 km away. Can you check to see if it's near you: http://www.worldcat.org/title/nihon-no-eigajin-nihon-eiga-no-sozoshatachi/ |
lanblade said: No, I do not and I do not own any of the books referencing any of the hundreds of other old timey anime either. WorldCat says that the closest library near me with a copy is 340 km away. Can you check to see if it's near you: http://www.worldcat.org/title/nihon-no-eigajin-nihon-eiga-no-sozoshatachi/ Then how did you read it? |
SerhiykoFeb 15, 2015 12:26 PM
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/9077/Rokudenashi_Blues Add Rokudenashi Blues '92 as a synonym. |
You all need to watch Nami. |
Serhiyko said: lanblade said: No, I do not and I do not own any of the books referencing any of the hundreds of other old timey anime either. WorldCat says that the closest library near me with a copy is 340 km away. Can you check to see if it's near you: http://www.worldcat.org/title/nihon-no-eigajin-nihon-eiga-no-sozoshatachi/ Then how did you read it? I don't doubt your info, I'm just wondering I didn't read it, I never said I did. I'm relaying the information that's posted online with the sources that information is said to have come from. I myself can't contest the online information since that same online information provided details for hundreds of other anime series. Blinding trusting it is the only thing we can really do since so many Japanese sites say two versions exist. |
| Question, is the "アニタス神戸賞" a worthy award? I saw this in the new section: http://myanimelist.net/anime/30046/Hadashi_Neko and it won that award for the 16th Animation Kobe event But looking at the other 'awards' for Original Animation http://www.anime-kobe.jp/public_offering/original_anime.html they have stuff like Comedy Action Award and http://www.anime-kobe.jp/archive/2013/digitalcreators/ Scary and Cute Award. IDK it feels like awards for the sake of having minor awards to give independent animation submissions. IMO, I would consider the 最優秀賞 (Highest Award) the only one worthy to pluck an anime out of doujinshi status. Thoughts? |
| lanblade, Hidashi Neko was featured on one of the NHK's programs (if I understood correctly. + one of the creators is a professional key animator). That's why it's in the DB. But, yeah, better not to submit these other works... |
LeknaatFeb 15, 2015 12:53 PM
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lanblade said: I didn't read it, I never said I did. I'm relaying the information that's posted online with the sources that information is said to have come from. I myself can't contest the online information since that same online information provided details for hundreds of other anime series. Blinding trusting it is the only thing we can really do since so many Japanese sites say two versions exist. Where exactly is it posted online that you relay information from? lanblade said: Both are works by Kenzou Masoka but #30017 was a joint production with Kumakawa Masao while the #22401 was just Kenzou himself. Suzume no Oyado was the only other anime Kenzou worked with Kumakawa on. And where exactly did you get this info from? |
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Leknaat said: lanblade, Hidashi Neko was featured on one of the NHK's programs (if I understood correctly. + one of the creators is a professional key animator). That's why it's in the DB. But, yeah, better not to submit these other works... Ah, now that makes sense to me. Serhiyko said: lanblade said: I didn't read it, I never said I did. I'm relaying the information that's posted online with the sources that information is said to have come from. I myself can't contest the online information since that same online information provided details for hundreds of other anime series. Blinding trusting it is the only thing we can really do since so many Japanese sites say two versions exist. Where exactly is it posted online that you relay information from? lanblade said: Both are works by Kenzou Masoka but #30017 was a joint production with Kumakawa Masao while the #22401 was just Kenzou himself. Suzume no Oyado was the only other anime Kenzou worked with Kumakawa on. And where exactly did you get this info from? From my previous post; japanese-cinema-db.jp and animationscc.wiki.fc2.com. Wikipedia as well and Allcinema. Movies.yahoo.co.jp has extra info about Jiro Hitachi, the nephew of Kenzou, being in charge of the music for the 1939 one. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/9817/My_Life_as_McDull change the main title to Mak Dau Goo Si http://myanimelist.net/anime/9818/McDull_Prince_de_la_Bun change the main title to Mak Dau BoloYao WongZi |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
lanblade said: From my previous post; japanese-cinema-db.jp and animationscc.wiki.fc2.com. Wikipedia as well and Allcinema. Movies.yahoo.co.jp has extra info about Jiro Hitachi, the nephew of Kenzou, being in charge of the music for the 1939 one. Oh, I hoped you'd specify the links even further. I meant the exact article/id |
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| On the topic of http://myanimelist.net/anime/22401/ the image it has right now comes from this youtube upload https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzGU_iUMBi8 (sorry, I know it's not a official upload) This has to be from some other Saru Kani Gassen creation. Notice how "Shin" is not in the title card 新. And if you watch the animation it's very rough, way behind 'technologically' from Kenzo's work in the late 30's like Benkei tai Ushiwaka from the same year or Suzume no Oyado from the year before. The way the characters move looks like 20's anime from the 4 disk Japanese Anime Classic Collection DVD set. But I have no idea who made it, the smaller text is blurry as hell besides that katakana オリエント. What a curve ball! From the youtube comments it's assumed the film was made post-1922 as that's when the Pathé Baby film system was invented. What a mystery. |
Serhiyko said: lanblade said: From my previous post; japanese-cinema-db.jp and animationscc.wiki.fc2.com. Wikipedia as well and Allcinema. Movies.yahoo.co.jp has extra info about Jiro Hitachi, the nephew of Kenzou, being in charge of the music for the 1939 one. Oh, I hoped you'd specify the links even further. I meant the exact article/id Ah sorry! http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%94%BF%E5%B2%A1%E6%86%B2%E4%B8%89 http://animationscc.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E6%94%BF%E5%B2%A1%E6%86%B2%E4%B8%89 http://movies.yahoo.co.jp/movie/%E6%96%B0%E7%8C%BF%E8%9F%B9%E5%90%88%E6%88%A6/133645/story/ http://www.japanese-cinema-db.jp/Details?id=37864 http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=133645 |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/9819/McDull_Kung_Fu_Kindergarten add Mak Dau Xiang Dang Dang as a main title. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| lanblade, I'll remove it, thank you. |
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lanblade said: Serhiyko said: Oh, I hoped you'd specify the links even further. I meant the exact article/id Ah sorry! http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%94%BF%E5%B2%A1%E6%86%B2%E4%B8%89 http://animationscc.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E6%94%BF%E5%B2%A1%E6%86%B2%E4%B8%89 http://movies.yahoo.co.jp/movie/%E6%96%B0%E7%8C%BF%E8%9F%B9%E5%90%88%E6%88%A6/133645/story/ http://www.japanese-cinema-db.jp/Details?id=37864 http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=133645 No need to sorry. I didn't keep asking just to bug you, I needed this info, so much thanks. Hm, but I don't see the dot anywhere except the first two links. Is it only mentioned there? Anyway thanks again |
SerhiykoFeb 15, 2015 1:49 PM
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| lanblade, I actually think the original one is called 猿蟹合戦, based on what Allcinema says. Then Kenzou Masoka made new one, hence 新, which means "new" |
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Serhiyko said: lanblade, I actually think the original one is called 猿蟹合戦, based on what Allcinema says. Then Kenzou Masoka made new one, hence 新, which means "new" It could possibly be, but it does contradict the other sites though. But it still may be the one that's actually correct. But it's a whole lot of stuff up in the air because nobody has that book on hand to make it 100% sure it's X instead of Y. It's all guesses from Japanese sites, I just went for the one that was talked about it the most across the board from googling it/had the most google results. |
lanblade said: On the topic of http://myanimelist.net/anime/22401/ the image it has right now comes from this youtube upload https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzGU_iUMBi8 (sorry, I know it's not a official upload) This has to be from some other Saru Kani Gassen creation. So, is the video for other Saru Kani entry or is it for some Saru Kani that´s not even in the database? |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
abystoma2 said: lanblade said: On the topic of http://myanimelist.net/anime/22401/ the image it has right now comes from this youtube upload https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzGU_iUMBi8 (sorry, I know it's not a official upload) This has to be from some other Saru Kani Gassen creation. So, is the video for other Saru Kani entry or is it for some Saru Kani that´s not even in the database? The latter. Because there is nothing in the database with the title specifically spelled as サルカニ合戦 |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/16824/The_Arm_of_Gold add Hwang-geum-ui Pal as a main title and Hwanggeum-ui Pal as a synonym. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
Leknaat said: Higashi_no_Kaze, these are two parts of the same movie. lanblade already requested to merge them and we decided to keep the entires separated on the basis of the second episode being a sequel: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=5160#msg23451507 >There is a movie called 'Norakuro Nitouhei' without the training/drill arc added, and that's from 1935. It's in the queue currently. As well as the Norakuro Ittouhei movie from the same year. Any hints? The submitter was unable to provide any details. Thanks for clarifying. It would be kinda helpful to have somethinglike 'part 2' as a synonym for one of them though so they don't seem so identical. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/4397/Osaru_no_Sankichi:_Totsugekitai add Osaru no Sankichi: Totsugeki Tai as a synonym. http://myanimelist.net/anime/29559 add Sanbiki no Koguma-san as a synonym. http://myanimelist.net/anime/7523/Fuku-chan_no_Sensuikan http://myanimelist.net/anime/6857/Momotarou_no_Umiwashi http://myanimelist.net/anime/2765/Momotarou:_Umi_no_Shinpei Add Military genre. |
abystoma2Feb 16, 2015 1:08 PM
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/30012/Tekusuke_Monogatari Japanese title: テク助物語 Genre: historical http://myanimelist.net/anime/3075/The_Flying_House Main title: Tondera House no Daibouken http://myanimelist.net/anime/18827/Hello_Kitty_no_Mahou_no_Mori_no_Ohime-sama From the image of the DVD, the first no/の is not present. So it does not need to be in the Japanese and main title. It's not on the movie poster image AniDB uses either. Would be good as a synonym though. English title: Hello Kitty in The Sleeping Princess (it got an Eng dub) +synonym: Hello Kitty and Friends: The Sleeping Princess +genre: magic, fantasy AniDB: http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=7773 ANN: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=9157 http://myanimelist.net/anime/29998 +synonym: Let's Go Play! Special Let's Go Play! Owari Cat Planet Cuties Special Cat Planet Cuties Owari http://myanimelist.net/anime/1456/Licensed_by_Royal Japanese title: L/R -Licensed by Royal- Main title: L/R: Licensed by Royal +genre: Police since these guys are police for the royal family and do cop/P.I. stuff Eps: 12 I just submitted the special which is the ep 4 that never aired on TV. Was released a year later for home-video. A crap, can you add "ep 3.5" as a synonym to the special. I didn't realize that's what AniDB named it. http://myanimelist.net/anime/1590/Legendz:_Tale_of_the_Dragon_Kings Synonym should be the main title. |
lanbladeFeb 16, 2015 10:40 PM
akarin- said: You can change that yourself in the anime's page.http://myanimelist.net/anime/5322/Mugen_Kouro Average episode length should be less than 4 min: 1ep - 4 min 2, 3 eps - 2 min 4ep - 1.5 min http://myanimelist.net/dbchanges.php?aid=5322&t=duration Do note that MAL doesn't round properly, if you put 3:59 it'll still be 3 minutes. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/29936/Qin_Shiming_Yue_Zhi:_Junlin_Tianxia English Title: Qin's Moon: The Emperor Under Heaven http://myanimelist.net/anime/15905/Qin_Shiming_Yue_Zhi:_Wanli_Changcheng English Title: Qin's Moon: The Great Wall |
SerhiykoFeb 17, 2015 3:24 AM
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/18007/Squirrel_and_Hedgehog/ add Dalam-iwa Goseumdochi as the main title. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| updated, thanks! |
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Leknaat said: updated, thanks! So you claim http://myanimelist.net/anime/29555 is the same as http://anidb.net/a7004? But why are titles different then? |
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Serhiyko said: Leknaat said: updated, thanks! So you claim http://myanimelist.net/anime/29555 is the same as http://anidb.net/a7004? But why are titles different then? Looks like AniDB just cut off the first part of the title. Here's a screencap of the title card: http://i.imgur.com/cejpqFu.jpg and a higher def image of the scene they used: http://i.imgur.com/5VQjAV8.jpg |
| Serhiyko, yes, as lanblade already said, they are the same. "Kinken Chochiku Shiobara Tasuke" is a full title for that anime. |
LeknaatFeb 17, 2015 7:50 AM
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But is there any evidence those two were originally shown as one movie? Or that's your guess just because they were released on the same DVD years later? And there are contradicting sources as for release date. Most sources say it's 1933: http://www.digital-meme.com/en/our_products/dvds/4dvdset2.html http://www.digital-meme.com/jp/our_products/dvds/kaisetsu2.html http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9D%91%E7%94%B0%E5%AE%89%E5%8F%B8 Or specify it as 14.06.1933: http://www.jmdb.ne.jp/1933/bi002330.htm http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418964 But this one says it's 30.11.1932: https://www.japanese-cinema-db.jp/Details?id=34418 |
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Serhiyko said: But is there any evidence those two were originally shown as one movie? Or that's your guess just because they were released on the same DVD years later? And there are contradicting sources as for release date. Most sources say it's 1933: http://www.digital-meme.com/en/our_products/dvds/4dvdset2.html http://www.digital-meme.com/jp/our_products/dvds/kaisetsu2.html http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9D%91%E7%94%B0%E5%AE%89%E5%8F%B8 Or specify it as 14.06.1933: http://www.jmdb.ne.jp/1933/bi002330.htm http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418964 But this one says it's 30.11.1932: https://www.japanese-cinema-db.jp/Details?id=34418 That was my guess because they were released together through Digital Meme (nothing else was like that on the DVD). They made the effort to round up these old-as-fuck anime so I took their work on release years and whatever info they had as they were a legal company and licensed the stuff. I assumed they had some knowledge/professional insight as to that information so I took their word for it. (Plus it was 2 years ago and I didn't know any site to find that information elsewhere at the time) |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/29927/Kaguya-hime add Historical genre. http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=7020 add Dementia genre. http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=29651, http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=29653 add Historical and Samurai genres. http://myanimelist.net/anime/29679/Ki_Renka add Demons genre. Also http://myanimelist.net/anime/29555 add Shiobara Tasuke as a synonym so people would know it´s the same movie for sure. |
abystoma2Feb 17, 2015 1:31 PM
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=30082 change Military genre to Music, I accidentally misclicked. http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=7415 add Dementia genre. |
abystoma2Feb 18, 2015 2:51 PM
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=30088 Can you remove the 2nd section of the Japanese title. I forgot to delete it before submitted the entry after copy pasting it from the site. http://myanimelist.net/anime/22605/Kero_Kero_Keroppi_no_Ganbare!_Keroppooz woops, there should be an apostrophe in the "let's" of the English title. http://myanimelist.net/anime/6262/Manga_Sekai_Mukashibanashi Japanese title: まんが世界昔ばなし (like how it's written on the image) Wiki: |
| updated. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/17167/Akai_Koudan_Zillion_Specials add Emi Penguin's Diary, J.J. vs. Ricks - Predestined Confrontation and Champ & Apple - Fantastic Memories as a synonyms. http://myanimelist.net/anime/4218/Niji_ni_Mukatte add Historical genre. http://myanimelist.net/anime/29795/Onigakure_Yama_no_Soba_no_Hana add Demons and Historical genres. |
abystoma2Feb 19, 2015 11:24 AM
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/30086/Hanasaka_Jii-san Jii-san should be Jiisan. After Kineta said common words with honorifics don't get the hyphens anymore. ^^ |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/29796/Oshizuka_ni add Be Quiet Please! and Oshizukani as a synonyms. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/10779/Eroge!_H_mo_Game_mo_Kaihatsu_Zanmai I think this anime has finished airing but it is still marked as "airing". Not sure if I'm correct though. |
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Dojourei said: http://myanimelist.net/anime/10779/Eroge!_H_mo_Game_mo_Kaihatsu_Zanmai I think this anime has finished airing but it is still marked as "airing". Not sure if I'm correct though. From the guidelines "OVA & ONA will be set to finished after 18 months of inactivity (i.e.: no new information or releases). If a new episode is subsequently released, the entry will be re-opened." It has only been 8 months since the last episode came out. In December it can be set to finished. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/20951/DPR_Special_Movie add Dual-frequency Precipitation Radar Special Movie as a synonym. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| Requesting the following two with the historical tag since they take place in ancient China and the magic tag since it is used frequently in the action scenes. http://myanimelist.net/anime/8287/SD_Gundam_Sangokuden_Brave_Battle_Warriors http://myanimelist.net/anime/8132/Chou_Deneiban_SD_Gundam_Sangokuden_Brave_Battle_Warriors |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=30065 add Historical and Music genre. Actually, you could change the type to Music. |
abystoma2Feb 20, 2015 10:40 AM
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| Sorry for posting again so soon, but this entry should have a mecha and romance tag: http://myanimelist.net/anime/5620 |
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